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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.
anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.

I personally have been reading about the attitudes of roulette games organizers and I did not really see it as a thing to worry about because I have not had the experience with them. When I decided to try the game, I got registered on one of the roulette game and it is a live casino though so J had a little confidence in the system of being reliable, transparent and credible. I played several times and won big but I never made any withdrawal. One day the funny happened. While playing live I noticed how the staff present packed up after I had placed a bet, after taking their records, they went in while my bet was still pending I had to chat their live pm nobody responded and after a while waiting someone came in and I noticed a change in his behavior and there the game continued and I lost virtually all my bets and funds I used. Ever since that experience, I stopped roulette games and marked tat casino to not near them anymore.
   
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.


Bet according into your liking and preference on which there are indeed moments which i do really make out only bets on colors whether black or red but not considering on putting up some chips on 0.

It does really vary though because when betting up on colors then i could usually be making up some martingale strategy if ever it would be having a loss, which we know that this is a common
way or strategy when playing out which could be applied on slots too. It would really be impossible specially on a live casino or physical one on having that 3-5 same color streaks
unless if its really that been rigged or they would be detecting out that there's someone who do make some martingale.

As for online gaming platform then there's no way that we could be able to identify if they are really that rigging up their games on where they do really have that unfair every roll
they would made.
You've picked a fine kettle of fish to dissect - the Martingale strategy, a classic in the roulette wheel of betting techniques. But surely, we're not putting all our chips on just one square of the gambling chessboard, are we?

The Martingale, while popular enough to get invited to every poker night, carries a heavyweight risk tag. Hit a dry spell, and you'll see your bets climbing the staircase to bankruptcy quicker than a greased lightning. Ever heard of the D'Alembert strategy? It's like the Martingale's cousin from the quiet side of the family, a tad less boisterous because you only raise your bet by a single unit after a loss. Doesn't that sound like a smoother ride on the betting rollercoaster?

In the matter of online gaming fairness, you're hitting the bullseye when saying we can't peek under the hood to spot any rigged games. But hey, plenty of online casinos have a watchdog sniffing their heels, with regulations and routine check-ups ensuring they play fair. Shouldn't we extend a little trust to these guardians of fairness, or are we too deep in the trenches of doubt?

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Scamming through roulette is definitely possible. However, can I ask you to gamble a same size bet on all 36 numbers except 0 and see if the casino manages to bring up number 0 only in the very same game? If they do, can you please repeat it and see if they do it again in the next game too? I'm not favoring any casinos here and I know that such practices do take place in roulette, however not all of them would do it.  As well, it's not the casino specifically but the game provider that does this and if that's true, we should never play games from such game providers because they'll only try to loot your money by making you lose every single bet. Even in the game of cards (be it blackjack, poker, andar bahar, etc.) I have witnessed that most of the times, dealer wins. So it's possible that they have something behind the scenes that we don't know about.
The problem with that is, in online casinos there are a lot of people betting on various numbers and other things like odd and even etc. So, unless you find a time when the whole casino is empty, its probably not gonna work. Also, I'm sure they don't make it that obvious if the casino is actually rigged. I'm sure they are smart enough to no rig it everytime or it would be blatantly obvious and easily caught.
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The guy in the comment is speaking as if he was the dealer Back in Las Vegus and knows every ups and downs within the casino. I don’t believe this at all because of the odds and complicated assumptions from any bettor. At any time there might hundreds of bets that are live and thus making it impossible for the so called sophisticated computer to decide where to push the ball.

What if the number which computer decided is on the opposite side of the 360 round about, will it magically transfer the ball to that side? Seems some irrelevant information without any seen proofs.
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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.

anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.
If a casino is cheating, it will obviously do it in such a way that gamblers won't even notice that they are getting scammed or cheated by the platform or the game they are playing, otherwise, the casinos that are being talked about would have already been closed down since a lot of people would already report them to the authorities that take care of them.

Only a few people might feel that something is wrong with the game or the casino and they might try to reach the end of that unless there is a player who doesn't really pay any attention to such things, all they care about is gambling.
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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.

anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.
I understand you, I also have friends who like roulette very much, and now when we can see the possibilities of winning roulette wheels, they are somewhat relevant, with little money you can obtain considerable profits, the bad thing is that a person bets a lot and they want to have or be in a better position, I have looked for many roulette strategies and they have quite a few, but you have to have a lot of money to apply them all and see which is the Best strategy , the one that best suits and has the most success, I have a way to play very carefully , I do not risk much, it is that the roulette wheels have many ways to Spend and not leave Profits , you must be very Careful.



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i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette (i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette) and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.

anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.
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I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.
Well, slot machines are still the most loved and played gambling games in the world and the reason for that is probably the possibility of winning very big amounts due to the high multipliers that they provide while in roulette, you can't get that much even if you win a bet or two, also, the graphical user interfaces and gameplay of slot machines attract a lot of users.

I don't love roulette and that is the reason why I never play it but I have a relative who plays it a lot and I've seen him mostly betting or colors and also odd and even numbers as well since there are 50-50 chances of winning in these two.

Even though I've tried my luck a few times, I haven't had any luck playing roulette. despite the fact that I attempted using some of the players' advised techniques, I was still unsuccessful. In contrast to when I played slots, I frequently obtain a good win even if I don't follow any rules or strategies. I continue to hear positive winning roulette player stories, nevertheless.
It might merely imply that there are games designed to make us feel lucky while we are enjoying ourselves. In a game that isn't our strong suit, we can't force ourselves to succeed. If we had luck playing it, we couldn't accuse any game of defrauding us. We should search for a better game that would suit our luck and interests if we feel unlucky while playing it.
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I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.
Well, slot machines are still the most loved and played gambling games in the world and the reason for that is probably the possibility of winning very big amounts due to the high multipliers that they provide while in roulette, you can't get that much even if you win a bet or two, also, the graphical user interfaces and gameplay of slot machines attract a lot of users.

I don't love roulette and that is the reason why I never play it but I have a relative who plays it a lot and I've seen him mostly betting or colors and also odd and even numbers as well since there are 50-50 chances of winning in these two.
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.


Bet according into your liking and preference on which there are indeed moments which i do really make out only bets on colors whether black or red but not considering on putting up some chips on 0.

It does really vary though because when betting up on colors then i could usually be making up some martingale strategy if ever it would be having a loss, which we know that this is a common
way or strategy when playing out which could be applied on slots too. It would really be impossible specially on a live casino or physical one on having that 3-5 same color streaks
unless if its really that been rigged or they would be detecting out that there's someone who do make some martingale.

As for online gaming platform then there's no way that we could be able to identify if they are really that rigging up their games on where they do really have that unfair every roll
they would made.
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.
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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.
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Earlier I was curious about Roulette so that made me enter site to play it.
But it seems that Roulette is a slightly crazy game for now.
The numbers are indeed random, but there are statistics on the percentage of the number column which has a more profitable chance, but the statistics do not really guarantee the number the ball will occupy when it stops.
I played for a while and only saw small wins and no big wins at all for gamblers who also bet there.

That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.
legendary
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do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

I don't think they need these tricks to win against the players. The math behind these games already gives a major advantage to the casinos. Maybe some casinos are doing it and I would believe that. It is because there are many greedy cheating players among us and it wouldn't be surprising if some casinos are also greedy cheating fucks. Who knows what the online casinos are doing. Most of them are provably honest but what about those aren't? I guess we should go to a casino only if are sure of their honesty.
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I also have some question in mind sometimes because As a player of roulette(specially lightning roulette) that the behavior of the ball changes and acting abnormal .
there are chances that it is already in a number but suddenly changing to another before it stopped.
made me think that there are some cheating happening , though i am not a high roller yet this is for me some kind of wrong not mentioning that sometimes it comes to my advantage.
maybe this is really in the online casino nowadays as high technology is taking place anywhere and everywhere .
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I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.
I'm personally not a fan of roulette and I think there are much better games that one can play and try their luck which might provide better results than roulette since there are a lot of outcomes and it is very difficult to get it right, maybe it is not the same for everyone but I really find it difficult and annoying sometimes.

About the manipulation, I don't think there is any verifiable proof of these claims, and if there was, I doubt if this wouldn't be a case being handled by lawyers already since if a casino is cheating their players this way, they need to be closed down.
It depends on which kind of casinos you are playing the roulette, if you are doing so online I will admit the roulette can be a very boring game, however if you are gambling at a physical casino the roulette can be one of the most exciting games you can play, as the atmosphere is something that cannot be matched on other gambling games.

Still the accusations of casinos cheating at the roulette have always existed, but very little evidence exists about it despite how easy it could be to prove it, if you take a large enough sample of the numbers that come up at the roulette you could find if there is some sort of irregularity with the rate at which the numbers appear, but if you do not find anything then the only explanation left is that you were unlucky when gambling at the roulette and the casino did not cheated.
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I watched the video, and roulette has been rigged by magnets since a long time ago, but I am still not sure if it is rigged in the live games in casinos. I mean, we have seen some high rollers winning big amounts in the past, and when I say big amounts we are talking about bets bigger than $1 million. But on the other hand as the video show, the ball in the game sometimes has a really weird move.

In the end if the game is rigged that means the high rollers should lose, and since we can't see what numbers are they betting then It is still kind of fair for us. We shouldn't worry about our lows bets.
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Well, I don't even think this is true, a casino that gets a lot of customers already earns a lot of money since the house mostly wins and casinos are always in profit, why would they need to cheat their players only to get some money and obviously, if a casino continues doing that, they will probably get caught some day.
You are right if we were talking about real casinos, they won't want risk their reputation for pennies. But the truth is that those scammers don't actually run casinos (company) with a real team but mostly a scammer or two who bought a cheap ready-made script and integrated few fake slot games into it. The whole operation won't cost more than few hundreds dollars. Their plan is to scam as many customers as possible and vanish immediately after they get exposed, then rinse and repeat with a new name and new design.
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I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.
I'm personally not a fan of roulette and I think there are much better games that one can play and try their luck which might provide better results than roulette since there are a lot of outcomes and it is very difficult to get it right, maybe it is not the same for everyone but I really find it difficult and annoying sometimes.

About the manipulation, I don't think there is any verifiable proof of these claims, and if there was, I doubt if this wouldn't be a case being handled by lawyers already since if a casino is cheating their players this way, they need to be closed down.
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No secrets that could be hidden like forever, if there's a smoke then there's fire on which it might be caught by now but on the right time there would be leaks that a certain company or platform is cheating out their users and if this issue would blown out then anticipate that it would scatter out like wildfire and there's no way on stopping it and as an owner then you might be able to benefit on making easy money through cheating up users then it would be an over line for you.
Most especially her in the forum, it's very hard for any scam to rein for long here before it gets busted and I am sure this also will result in the same thing, just as you have rightly said, whenever there is a smoke, there must definitely be a fire so is scam accustions, whenever you hear of them, it then means that casino has some characteristic that is not legit unless on few occasions were there can come out clean.

We have one or two casinos that have been busted in this manner before here in the forum, even if the never get caught outside the forum, but one can not hard bad character for long and I'm the long run everything they're worked for to build the scammy casino will probably be in vain since there may end up in jail in the case against them is proven in court.

In everything that we do, truth must always be involved in other for us to enjoy them lasting, those that were built under deceit may last only but for a while, we've seen many casinos that started well but ended the wrong and bad way because their real standard was not maintained when they started initially, all these among other challenges make some gamblers finds it difficult to trust some casino especially the newly established ones because they were afraid of confiding trust in them, we should learn to present things exactly the way they are.
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