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Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 03, 2024, 09:06:05 AM

Besides this, I do not want to advise anything to adult players, but the basic concepts of politeness and respect for an unknown interlocutor should be observed, at least I try to do this.

The thing is one should give advice if the person is seeking advice. Even with suggestion, it should be given with the consent of the listener especially when they are asking for it. If they don't ask for anything then we should keep our mouths shut since they don't want any advice or suggestions.

Some people can't just mind their business as they always want to intrude in people's affairs even when the listener doesn't want such attention. People should learn how not to force themselves to conversations that the listener is not interested in

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If we get ahead of ourselves and give unsolicited advice, we might find ourselves in trouble because people might find it annoying or offensive. Like when we meet someone who is into gambling and give him unsolicited advise that gambling will ruin his life, instead of making a good impression that we care, these people might think we are stepping over our boundaries.

Except a gambler meets someone for help they rather not give unconsented advise because they can get into trouble just like you said, I have seen someone losing heavily in gambling and someone besides him just told him he's wasting his money that he should instead quit instead of continuous losses, the gambler became angry and it led to a rift between him and the person advising him to quit playing and he was asking the person if he was gambling with the person's money. If anyone should give advice to a gambler who is running into numerous losses let it be that the gambler actually approached them for advice.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 03, 2024, 09:06:05 AM

Besides this, I do not want to advise anything to adult players, but the basic concepts of politeness and respect for an unknown interlocutor should be observed, at least I try to do this.

The thing is one should give advice if the person is seeking advice. Even with suggestion, it should be given with the consent of the listener especially when they are asking for it. If they don't ask for anything then we should keep our mouths shut since they don't want any advice or suggestions.

If we get ahead of ourselves and give unsolicited advice, we might find ourselves in trouble because people might find it annoying or offensive. Like when we meet someone who is into gambling and give him unsolicited advise that gambling will ruin his life, instead of making a good impression that we care, these people might think we are stepping over our boundaries.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 03, 2024, 11:52:29 PM

I only judge gamblers who try to do it as a job. I think these people are a little crazy to choose something for a means to get income where the statistics show that they are likely to lose money. I don’t have any issues with people who gamble with the intent of having a good time. That is what entertainment is all about.

That is a big problem in here. People who gamble to have a good time are multi millionaires to say the least and they go to the casino to have fun while the truth is that the majority of the people that gamble, they gamble to change their lives with this activity, it is kinda like a job where you don't get paid well unless you do some great job (hit the jackpot) and the miracle happens, the problem is that the miracles can be counted with the finger of one hand and millions of other people lose money. In this context I agree with you they are crazy but at least they are crazy in a way that they want to change their life, they know by doing a 9-5 job won't bring you any good and as such they try this, I don't blame them that much although in the end they are truly crazy converting what they have in hand,their money, in hope of getting better.

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Quote from: Reid on September 03, 2024, 07:48:14 AM

That is right and there's no stopping those who will judge people just based on their action. In today's life, there are rarely people who would even think about the other side of the coin especially with how fast the news comes in.
I've been on that side before and I regret all the judgmental things that I thought about other people just because they are gambling. When I learned about gambling, it changed my point of view because I learned that it all depends on the gambler if he will be responsible or not.
We cannot really tell it just by have the simple knowledge that they gamble. We don't know if they are playing just for fun or that's their job.

Do we get to have so many people who don't think about the other side of the coin? It isn't enjoyable because you don't even know who to trust, or someone to talk to anymore when you want to start certain things in life. When the world is better, a person can work with his friend, colleague, or relation and tell him about his plan to start gambling and there won't be any criticism or discrimination. But these days a gambler is so scared to share his problem of an addict, and even aspiring gamblers don't know who will tell their dream of becoming a gambler. We don't know who to trust anymore.

It is so funny that there are other terrible things that people do that gambling cannot be compared to. And those persons who do those things alk in the street of the society freely without being confronted. Why is it different in gambling?

But for the most part such a desire depends on the environment of the person himself. If his environment to such ventures is normal, then they will be able to support him well, if on the contrary, then they will discourage and support from their side will not get, and all their attempts will be explained by their desire to do as better. I've noticed lately that it's easiest to start without listening to anyone. Yes, you may meet criticism along the way, but on a global scale it will not affect you if you are ready to go for your goal

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 03, 2024, 11:52:29 PM

I only judge gamblers who try to do it as a job. I think these people are a little crazy to choose something for a means to get income where the statistics show that they are likely to lose money. I don’t have any issues with people who gamble with the intent of having a good time. That is what entertainment is all about.

True.

I don't like it too and I've seen some friends who are trying to make it a living but I doubt they are in profit. There was even a time when one of my friends urged me to play the same game he was playing because he said he was winning. Later, he kept on depositing and asking me to deposit for him in digital cash while he paid for cash. I don't think that's a winning formula. Cheesy

There's also one who plays poker tournaments but I understand because he really loves the game and keeps on playing it during weekends only so I think he is not pursuing it as a job.
Still, I respect their ideas but I know that other one is going overboard and might also be addicted with gambling.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 03, 2024, 11:52:29 PM

I only judge gamblers who try to do it as a job. I think these people are a little crazy to choose something for a means to get income where the statistics show that they are likely to lose money. I don’t have any issues with people who gamble with the intent of having a good time. That is what entertainment is all about.

I think some of those people that show it as a job might end up doing something else, say for example they say on a YouTube channel that they do it as a job, but in reality they are just doing advertisement for the casinos.

I think in a way that is a job in gambling, just in advertisement, not actual gambling.

That way they can actually get a pay check from Google for their advertisements, or maybe even directly from the casinos.

But yeah, anyone that gambles frequently will most probably end up with less money that what they started with.

If that is what they do with gambling and only serve an advertisement without playing gambling, they can make an income because Google pays them and maybe they can get more referral by spreading their links. That will not be a problem for them because they don't playing gambling and only show to their follower and other people about the casino but they should give a warning to those who want to try to playing gambling.

But if they are playing gambling while doing that, that will be a risks for them because they can spend much money to make money from gambling. That will not work for them as they can losing their money but they will difficult to make money so they should know they should stay away from that.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 03, 2024, 09:06:05 AM

Besides this, I do not want to advise anything to adult players, but the basic concepts of politeness and respect for an unknown interlocutor should be observed, at least I try to do this.

They can't actually see their problems as something really matter to them but would want to dig and emphasized on others problems and issues but with time as they keep gambling they would find themselves into same messed and can't be imagine how they find themselves into same mess, but instead will try all means to protects their interest and make worse of others without knowing they are also in same problems.

Our problems are hidden where other people can see them, and talk to us about what they've noticed. Yet, we all disagree with what doesn't sound right to our hearing. Change is constant, and people could develop interest in gambling due to some emotional challenges which we may not be able to decipher. That's why it's fine not to judge anybody, because we may end up just like them. An example of this type of change happened in my school days when those who claimed to be good students ended up becoming the bad eggs.

It's always like and you can't change it, in fact it's one of the characters that made up the characteristics of humans because you would always see it that same way. So it's just better to either reduce our ways of actions and behavior towards other people otherwise we fall for same thing without even knowing when we do got ourselves involved in doing such.

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Quote from: nullama on September 04, 2024, 03:11:13 AM

I think in a way that is a job in gambling, just in advertisement, not actual gambling.

That depends on our capabilities. If we're good at advertising and have social media accounts that can attract people to gamble, then that’s the safest way to make money, as there’s no risk in what you're doing. However, if you want to enter a high-risk, high-reward venture, then learn how to develop the skills and become a professional gambler.

It may seem impossible for some people, especially those who can't find a way to succeed in gambling, but for those who are inspired gamblers, they know it's possible and will work to make it a reality.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 03, 2024, 11:52:29 PM

I only judge gamblers who try to do it as a job. I think these people are a little crazy to choose something for a means to get income where the statistics show that they are likely to lose money. I don’t have any issues with people who gamble with the intent of having a good time. That is what entertainment is all about.

I think some of those people that show it as a job might end up doing something else, say for example they say on a YouTube channel that they do it as a job, but in reality they are just doing advertisement for the casinos.

I think in a way that is a job in gambling, just in advertisement, not actual gambling.

That way they can actually get a pay check from Google for their advertisements, or maybe even directly from the casinos.

But yeah, anyone that gambles frequently will most probably end up with less money that what they started with.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on July 07, 2024, 04:47:09 PM

However, it is a sad story to see people who cast away gamblers thinking they are irresponsible, and then fund themselves on this same web doing the same thing. It reminds me of how vulnerable humans can be, and that anyone can change habits when a condition falls on them.

This is one phase of life that most people find themselves doing, you can imagine criticising someone about a wrong dealings then unfortunately you we're caught doing that same thing, it's really funny, yeah alot of people are victims of such circumstances based on the fact that, they must have been into it or heard a bad talks concerning that so in their power they can persuade anyone not to go into it or rather judge anyone they find doing it.

But life has it's way of paying up people for their inner heart decisions, and exactly life may tend to change your current situation at any time and it'll definitely be an avenue to bend or adapt to some factors surrounding you which can include, the same person criticising gamblers finding himself gambling as well.

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When you teach a subject you must have sufficient knowledge and experience in that subject. Similarly, you need practical experience when you make a gambler aware of his gambling addiction. People who once gambled and became addicted to gambling can usually give new gamblers a good idea of gambling addiction. Every gambler must have some motive behind why they gamble, but there are some gamblers who do not know their gambling purpose. I have asked many people why they gamble and they have told me that they have friends who have made a lot of money gambling and they are gambling to make that money. But when I asked him whether your friend is winning consistently or just one gamble and you have any goals of your own to gamble, he always remained silent. So my advice to such gamblers is to first be sure what your objective is and then try to gamble with an idea so that your money is at least somewhat safe.

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I only judge gamblers who try to do it as a job. I think these people are a little crazy to choose something for a means to get income where the statistics show that they are likely to lose money. I don’t have any issues with people who gamble with the intent of having a good time. That is what entertainment is all about.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on July 07, 2024, 04:47:09 PM

At first some judge gamblers often and later they become gambling addicts. I found it very serious to be curious and know what may have been their reason for the sudden change of mind. I know that there are difficult times to make money and maintain money, which is a world problem. I have had some thoughts on it and this is what I think may have been the reason.
1. In the beginning they may have been doing well financially and see no reason to gamble, maybe life later on throws them a financial curveball, or perhaps responsibility compels them to look for quick money through gambling. If not attempting gambling was an ethic for them they should have stuck to another alternative why did they choose this one?
2. On second thought. I feel it is the influence and conviction of people around them who are into gambling that made them go into gambling at the end of the day.
However, it is a sad story to see people who cast away gamblers thinking they are irresponsible, and then fund themselves on this same web doing the same thing. It reminds me of how vulnerable humans can be, and that anyone can change habits when a condition falls on them.

People could hate gambling for different reasons. Probably a person who seemed to be a core gambling hater was only doing so because he probably was a gambler concealing his gambling routine or gambling habits. Also it's possible that he has been speaking against gambling just because he didn't see much profits from it . Infact the truth is there are a ton of reasons why different people could claim they hate gambling, however sometimes these persons are just being naive.

Sometimes I really don't buy the idea that someone turned into a gambling addict mainly because they were poor or became poor. Rather, most of the time these persons could just had been gambling lovers trying to hide it. Not only poor people become gambling, the rich also do, meaning although poverty can contribute to addiction it really isn't a main factor.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on September 03, 2024, 11:26:54 AM

Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 03, 2024, 09:06:05 AM

Besides this, I do not want to advise anything to adult players, but the basic concepts of politeness and respect for an unknown interlocutor should be observed, at least I try to do this.

They can't actually see their problems as something really matter to them but would want to dig and emphasized on others problems and issues but with time as they keep gambling they would find themselves into same messed and can't be imagine how they find themselves into same mess, but instead will try all means to protects their interest and make worse of others without knowing they are also in same problems.

Our problems are hidden where other people can see them, and talk to us about what they've noticed. Yet, we all disagree with what doesn't sound right to our hearing. Change is constant, and people could develop interest in gambling due to some emotional challenges which we may not be able to decipher. That's why it's fine not to judge anybody, because we may end up just like them. An example of this type of change happened in my school days when those who claimed to be good students ended up becoming the bad eggs.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on September 03, 2024, 06:20:05 PM

Quote from: Reid on September 03, 2024, 07:48:14 AM

That is right and there's no stopping those who will judge people just based on their action. In today's life, there are rarely people who would even think about the other side of the coin especially with how fast the news comes in.
I've been on that side before and I regret all the judgmental things that I thought about other people just because they are gambling. When I learned about gambling, it changed my point of view because I learned that it all depends on the gambler if he will be responsible or not.
We cannot really tell it just by have the simple knowledge that they gamble. We don't know if they are playing just for fun or that's their job.

Do we get to have so many people who don't think about the other side of the coin? It isn't enjoyable because you don't even know who to trust, or someone to talk to anymore when you want to start certain things in life. When the world is better, a person can work with his friend, colleague, or relation and tell him about his plan to start gambling and there won't be any criticism or discrimination. But these days a gambler is so scared to share his problem of an addict, and even aspiring gamblers don't know who will tell their dream of becoming a gambler. We don't know who to trust anymore.

It is so funny that there are other terrible things that people do that gambling cannot be compared to. And those persons who do those things alk in the street of the society freely without being confronted. Why is it different in gambling?

That's true and I think that must change.
The perspective of a gambler is he looks bad in the eye of society, especially to those who don't gamble at all or never even experienced it. But, I don't like the lotto bettors who think they are clean, and little did they know they are also gambling.
I don't know why but I know some neighbors who like criticizing others who gambles in a casino or online casino and yet they don't even realize they are also gambling through a different means.
It's like betting on national lotto here is a tradition and not gambling anymore which I think is a hypocrite way to say they are not gamblers. Cheesy

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Quote from: Gheka on September 03, 2024, 08:20:44 AM

Their critical and self-righteous nature makes them lose sight of their own problems, sometimes they disregard other people's perspectives and are ready to oppose sincere assessments, and we will also encounter deadlocks and no small problems when dealing with these people, once we express our views, they will consider knowledge and education but when those are not at the same level as them, they are more grumpy and judgmental of us. With just a common scenario and unified circumstances, judgmental people will actively shut up and understand the discomfort and how others become addicted and thus sympathize.

Judge of the gamblers was different one,because it’s not easy for the gamblers to do based on their actions.Only the weaker gamblers will show their emotions after their loss in the gambling or winning in the gambling.The gamblers family and friends should stay away from the gamblers when they feel they was disturbed by the gambling losses.Because everything changed to upside down,the gamblers loss will affect the gamblers for sure.But the gamblers who had good experience will avoid of being get temper because of the gambling loss.So the gamblers itself need to control their emotions after loss.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 03, 2024, 09:06:05 AM

Quote from: Gheka on September 03, 2024, 08:20:44 AM

Their critical and self-righteous nature makes them lose sight of their own problems, sometimes they disregard other people's perspectives and are ready to oppose sincere assessments, and we will also encounter deadlocks and no small problems when dealing with these people, once we express our views, they will consider knowledge and education but when those are not at the same level as them, they are more grumpy and judgmental of us. With just a common scenario and unified circumstances, judgmental people will actively shut up and understand the discomfort and how others become addicted and thus sympathize.

There are quite a lot of such people and players who are ready to discuss anything, but not to see their own problems. This can be understood only by the fact that they are trying to protect themselves, not even for the people around them, but sometimes even for themselves. In this way, they calm themselves down and think that they will never have problems with the game or other things.

Besides this, I do not want to advise anything to adult players, but the basic concepts of politeness and respect for an unknown interlocutor should be observed, at least I try to do this.

Some are good advisors but can't advise themselves to be right. Perhaps a lot of people are doing that, pretending they are perfect, but deep inside, they are also struggling hard to correct their personal lives. Judging other people is somewhat like we own them.

We have our personal lives; we can gamble as long as we can and also let other people do the same. If they lose, we don't lose any, that is why we don't need to worry about their life as it is their choice as well. No matter what we do with these people, at the end of the day, their decisions are still going to follow, not us.

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Quote from: Reid on September 03, 2024, 07:48:14 AM

That is right and there's no stopping those who will judge people just based on their action. In today's life, there are rarely people who would even think about the other side of the coin especially with how fast the news comes in.
I've been on that side before and I regret all the judgmental things that I thought about other people just because they are gambling. When I learned about gambling, it changed my point of view because I learned that it all depends on the gambler if he will be responsible or not.
We cannot really tell it just by have the simple knowledge that they gamble. We don't know if they are playing just for fun or that's their job.

Do we get to have so many people who don't think about the other side of the coin? It isn't enjoyable because you don't even know who to trust, or someone to talk to anymore when you want to start certain things in life. When the world is better, a person can work with his friend, colleague, or relation and tell him about his plan to start gambling and there won't be any criticism or discrimination. But these days a gambler is so scared to share his problem of an addict, and even aspiring gamblers don't know who will tell their dream of becoming a gambler. We don't know who to trust anymore.

It is so funny that there are other terrible things that people do that gambling cannot be compared to. And those persons who do those things alk in the street of the society freely without being confronted. Why is it different in gambling?

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 03, 2024, 09:06:05 AM

Besides this, I do not want to advise anything to adult players, but the basic concepts of politeness and respect for an unknown interlocutor should be observed, at least I try to do this.

They can't actually see their problems as something really matter to them but would want to dig and emphasized on others problems and issues but with time as they keep gambling they would find themselves into same messed and can't be imagine how they find themselves into same mess, but instead will try all means to protects their interest and make worse of others without knowing they are also in same problems.

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Quote from: Gheka on September 03, 2024, 08:20:44 AM

Their critical and self-righteous nature makes them lose sight of their own problems, sometimes they disregard other people's perspectives and are ready to oppose sincere assessments, and we will also encounter deadlocks and no small problems when dealing with these people, once we express our views, they will consider knowledge and education but when those are not at the same level as them, they are more grumpy and judgmental of us. With just a common scenario and unified circumstances, judgmental people will actively shut up and understand the discomfort and how others become addicted and thus sympathize.

There are quite a lot of such people and players who are ready to discuss anything, but not to see their own problems. This can be understood only by the fact that they are trying to protect themselves, not even for the people around them, but sometimes even for themselves. In this way, they calm themselves down and think that they will never have problems with the game or other things.

Besides this, I do not want to advise anything to adult players, but the basic concepts of politeness and respect for an unknown interlocutor should be observed, at least I try to do this.

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