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legendary
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 Thanks for keeping on with this and also for updating us Chi!

  I cannot wait to see what else you will be posting....and hope justice is done for the many that cannot redeem their coins!

  Please keep us updated as always! You are the sheriff of this collectable section on the forum!  Wink
legendary
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Titan Mint's Website is now simply blank-   https://titanbtc.com/

I was told at one point it would redirect to "tuition.io"

This is what google says about why no information can be seen..


Anyone know what might be going on here with this?


 I've been given some updates from some people that I can't share at the moment, but will do so as soon as I can.  I can say this much, people have started taking this much more seriously, and things are progressing.  I will have more to share as I am able to do so.  

Tim has access to the coins, as someone has mentioned. Something I think people are forgetting or don’t realize.

A few threads where Tim is pushing for 2FA coins over PK coins, knocking Casascius coins, and being quite misleading.  







Very interesting..

sr. member
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Maybe hire a bounty hunter?

What you need is not a bounty hunter, but a "skip tracer". This is a person who specialises in finding people so legal paperwork can be served (in general). Skip tracers often have connections inside a nationwide network of utilities service, debt collector, the IRS, and/or phone companies and that's one way they track down people who don't want to be found, or are using a known alias. A bounty hunter would be more like if he was indicted and skipped a hearing or ran out on his bail agreement in a criminal court, so you would need a criminal indictment for that... But before that, you'd need a lawyer to draw up a civil court claim and submit it to a judge, so you could have something to serve...
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What about a class action suit against the many makers who have stolen over the years?
Not sure how that would work....

Alitin
Titan
ColdKey


Well...I think the first thing to do would be to make a list of as many affected individuals as possible for all the scammed coins.  Has anything like that been done yet?  Not sure how to accomplish that.  A page here in the forums?  Or maybe a dedicated website could be made soliciting victims.  Anyone know how to whip up a quick "Were you the victim of a physical crypto scam?  Click here blahblahblah" website?   Then give it six months to a year to collect as many names as possible and take that list to an attorney.
legendary
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What about a class action suit against the many makers who have stolen over the years?
Not sure how that would work....

Alitin
Titan
ColdKey
legendary
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Ty....Again incredible job with your detective work! I agree I am surprised nobody has done anything unless its happening already.

 I mean this guy is in the USA! ThankGod I have only the redeemed coins and never lost a Satoshi cause of this issue!

  I do hope this is investigated by legal authorities and accountability is held against Titan!

What I find surprising is the fact that with the number of people some of these coin makers have stolen from nobody has found them and just beaten the crap out of them.
I don't think violence would solve anything, and I don't think any violence should be done to these people. I am just talking about the number of people involved in the amount of money involved it's just a testament to the fact that either:

1)We as a group are calmer then most
or
2) as a group we are incredibly lazy

I'm not just talking Titan and yogg but over the years everybody who has ripped off everybody, nobody or at least nobody has reported, any physical violence done to these people.

As a group humans are not usually prone to being rational; and there is always that person that says screw it they'll never able to figure out who did it and take a bat to the perpetrators...

Nice to see we are better than that.

-Dave


    I do hope we do not fall under the incredibly lazy group...I hope there are people in here with deep pockets that can start a legal process
to bring justice where justice is needed in the USA....same applies to that other scum in France.

    Time will tell and I do hope that someday we can all see news of people arrested for their crimes

I don’t know what’s holding everyone up. If I had even 1 .1 2FA Titan I’d have retained legal counsel and made it a class action type deal. I implore people to stop thinking they just simply cut their losses and move on. By not taking action you’re teaching the scammers who watch these threads, and we all know there’s always scammers creeping in the background trying to plan their next scam. Not one physical coin maker who’s rug pulled has been brought to justice. If we continue to do nothing, and people continue to buy funded items, this is 100% going to happen again and again. I’d say it’s likely at least one of the current coin makers will rug pull.
Pains me to hear that it seems like all crypto collectible scammers have gotten away with it so far.
Fully agree with your statement, ChiBitCTy. Luckily I never owned any 2fa Titans. However I do understand that if you are only slightly affected (let's say by losing one 0.1 2fa value) and you have a busy life with family and work etc eating most of your time already, you think twice before entering probably expensive and very time consuming legal action. That said, given the value of some of these coins and also the fact that some folks bought a bunch of them, it really makes you wonder.
Just bringing one of these scums to justice would defintely set a nice precedent for any physical maker out there.

Eh...I've found it to be rather difficult. I know quite a few and have yet to find a lawyer that wants to take something like this on...it's a lot of work with very little chance for it to actually pay off. From what multiple (lawyers) have told me...the only reason anyone would want to take this would be for the potential publicity it could bring...that being said, I haven't given up, I'm kind of biding my time on a few other ideas seeing if they might pay off. I've waited 10 years for redemption, what's another year or two?

I hear you, it's certainly not something that is going to be easy, but at this point I just don't see another way around this. 

"the only reason anyone would want to take this would be for the potential publicity it could bring"- I highly doubt that this would bring much publicity to anyone.  You can absolutely find a lawyer to take this on.  There are also now lawyers who work specifically on cryptocurrency crimes/cases..so that would be the best place to start, talking to a lawyer who specializes in this are.  I know that they are out there, I've come across a few when just trying to look in to it.

We can't give up on this.  This guy stole god knows how much money, and I've pretty much T'd everything up here with absolute proof now that he scammed everyone.
newbie
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Ty....Again incredible job with your detective work! I agree I am surprised nobody has done anything unless its happening already.

 I mean this guy is in the USA! ThankGod I have only the redeemed coins and never lost a Satoshi cause of this issue!

  I do hope this is investigated by legal authorities and accountability is held against Titan!

What I find surprising is the fact that with the number of people some of these coin makers have stolen from nobody has found them and just beaten the crap out of them.
I don't think violence would solve anything, and I don't think any violence should be done to these people. I am just talking about the number of people involved in the amount of money involved it's just a testament to the fact that either:

1)We as a group are calmer then most
or
2) as a group we are incredibly lazy

I'm not just talking Titan and yogg but over the years everybody who has ripped off everybody, nobody or at least nobody has reported, any physical violence done to these people.

As a group humans are not usually prone to being rational; and there is always that person that says screw it they'll never able to figure out who did it and take a bat to the perpetrators...

Nice to see we are better than that.

-Dave


    I do hope we do not fall under the incredibly lazy group...I hope there are people in here with deep pockets that can start a legal process
to bring justice where justice is needed in the USA....same applies to that other scum in France.

    Time will tell and I do hope that someday we can all see news of people arrested for their crimes

I don’t know what’s holding everyone up. If I had even 1 .1 2FA Titan I’d have retained legal counsel and made it a class action type deal. I implore people to stop thinking they just simply cut their losses and move on. By not taking action you’re teaching the scammers who watch these threads, and we all know there’s always scammers creeping in the background trying to plan their next scam. Not one physical coin maker who’s rug pulled has been brought to justice. If we continue to do nothing, and people continue to buy funded items, this is 100% going to happen again and again. I’d say it’s likely at least one of the current coin makers will rug pull.
Pains me to hear that it seems like all crypto collectible scammers have gotten away with it so far.
Fully agree with your statement, ChiBitCTy. Luckily I never owned any 2fa Titans. However I do understand that if you are only slightly affected (let's say by losing one 0.1 2fa value) and you have a busy life with family and work etc eating most of your time already, you think twice before entering probably expensive and very time consuming legal action. That said, given the value of some of these coins and also the fact that some folks bought a bunch of them, it really makes you wonder.
Just bringing one of these scums to justice would defintely set a nice precedent for any physical maker out there.

Eh...I've found it to be rather difficult. I know quite a few and have yet to find a lawyer that wants to take something like this on...it's a lot of work with very little chance for it to actually pay off. From what multiple (lawyers) have told me...the only reason anyone would want to take this would be for the potential publicity it could bring...that being said, I haven't given up, I'm kind of biding my time on a few other ideas seeing if they might pay off. I've waited 10 years for redemption, what's another year or two?
legendary
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
Maybe hire a bounty hunter?


  Not a bad idea.....for sure....Many here affected by this should consider this and once found brought to justice.

  I hope people like him are held accountable for their actions...it will set a precedence on things for anyone thinking of doing it again!
legendary
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Maybe hire a bounty hunter?
legendary
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Disobey.
Ty....Again incredible job with your detective work! I agree I am surprised nobody has done anything unless its happening already.

 I mean this guy is in the USA! ThankGod I have only the redeemed coins and never lost a Satoshi cause of this issue!

  I do hope this is investigated by legal authorities and accountability is held against Titan!

What I find surprising is the fact that with the number of people some of these coin makers have stolen from nobody has found them and just beaten the crap out of them.
I don't think violence would solve anything, and I don't think any violence should be done to these people. I am just talking about the number of people involved in the amount of money involved it's just a testament to the fact that either:

1)We as a group are calmer then most
or
2) as a group we are incredibly lazy

I'm not just talking Titan and yogg but over the years everybody who has ripped off everybody, nobody or at least nobody has reported, any physical violence done to these people.

As a group humans are not usually prone to being rational; and there is always that person that says screw it they'll never able to figure out who did it and take a bat to the perpetrators...

Nice to see we are better than that.

-Dave


    I do hope we do not fall under the incredibly lazy group...I hope there are people in here with deep pockets that can start a legal process
to bring justice where justice is needed in the USA....same applies to that other scum in France.

    Time will tell and I do hope that someday we can all see news of people arrested for their crimes

I don’t know what’s holding everyone up. If I had even 1 .1 2FA Titan I’d have retained legal counsel and made it a class action type deal. I implore people to stop thinking they just simply cut their losses and move on. By not taking action you’re teaching the scammers who watch these threads, and we all know there’s always scammers creeping in the background trying to plan their next scam. Not one physical coin maker who’s rug pulled has been brought to justice. If we continue to do nothing, and people continue to buy funded items, this is 100% going to happen again and again. I’d say it’s likely at least one of the current coin makers will rug pull.
Pains me to hear that it seems like all crypto collectible scammers have gotten away with it so far.
Fully agree with your statement, ChiBitCTy. Luckily I never owned any 2fa Titans. However I do understand that if you are only slightly affected (let's say by losing one 0.1 2fa value) and you have a busy life with family and work etc eating most of your time already, you think twice before entering probably expensive and very time consuming legal action. That said, given the value of some of these coins and also the fact that some folks bought a bunch of them, it really makes you wonder.
Just bringing one of these scums to justice would defintely set a nice precedent for any physical maker out there.
legendary
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Ty....Again incredible job with your detective work! I agree I am surprised nobody has done anything unless its happening already.

 I mean this guy is in the USA! ThankGod I have only the redeemed coins and never lost a Satoshi cause of this issue!

  I do hope this is investigated by legal authorities and accountability is held against Titan!

What I find surprising is the fact that with the number of people some of these coin makers have stolen from nobody has found them and just beaten the crap out of them.
I don't think violence would solve anything, and I don't think any violence should be done to these people. I am just talking about the number of people involved in the amount of money involved it's just a testament to the fact that either:

1)We as a group are calmer then most
or
2) as a group we are incredibly lazy

I'm not just talking Titan and yogg but over the years everybody who has ripped off everybody, nobody or at least nobody has reported, any physical violence done to these people.

As a group humans are not usually prone to being rational; and there is always that person that says screw it they'll never able to figure out who did it and take a bat to the perpetrators...

Nice to see we are better than that.

-Dave


    I do hope we do not fall under the incredibly lazy group...I hope there are people in here with deep pockets that can start a legal process
to bring justice where justice is needed in the USA....same applies to that other scum in France.

    Time will tell and I do hope that someday we can all see news of people arrested for their crimes

I don’t know what’s holding everyone up. If I had even 1 .1 2FA Titan I’d have retained legal counsel and made it a class action type deal. I implore people to stop thinking they just simply cut their losses and move on. By not taking action you’re teaching the scammers who watch these threads, and we all know there’s always scammers creeping in the background trying to plan their next scam. Not one physical coin maker who’s rug pulled has been brought to justice. If we continue to do nothing, and people continue to buy funded items, this is 100% going to happen again and again. I’d say it’s likely at least one of the current coin makers will rug pull.
legendary
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
Ty....Again incredible job with your detective work! I agree I am surprised nobody has done anything unless its happening already.

 I mean this guy is in the USA! ThankGod I have only the redeemed coins and never lost a Satoshi cause of this issue!

  I do hope this is investigated by legal authorities and accountability is held against Titan!

What I find surprising is the fact that with the number of people some of these coin makers have stolen from nobody has found them and just beaten the crap out of them.
I don't think violence would solve anything, and I don't think any violence should be done to these people. I am just talking about the number of people involved in the amount of money involved it's just a testament to the fact that either:

1)We as a group are calmer then most
or
2) as a group we are incredibly lazy

I'm not just talking Titan and yogg but over the years everybody who has ripped off everybody, nobody or at least nobody has reported, any physical violence done to these people.

As a group humans are not usually prone to being rational; and there is always that person that says screw it they'll never able to figure out who did it and take a bat to the perpetrators...

Nice to see we are better than that.

-Dave


    I do hope we do not fall under the incredibly lazy group...I hope there are people in here with deep pockets that can start a legal process
to bring justice where justice is needed in the USA....same applies to that other scum in France.

    Time will tell and I do hope that someday we can all see news of people arrested for their crimes
legendary
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Ty....Again incredible job with your detective work! I agree I am surprised nobody has done anything unless its happening already.

 I mean this guy is in the USA! ThankGod I have only the redeemed coins and never lost a Satoshi cause of this issue!

  I do hope this is investigated by legal authorities and accountability is held against Titan!

What I find surprising is the fact that with the number of people some of these coin makers have stolen from nobody has found them and just beaten the crap out of them.
I don't think violence would solve anything, and I don't think any violence should be done to these people. I am just talking about the number of people involved in the amount of money involved it's just a testament to the fact that either:

1)We as a group are calmer then most
or
2) as a group we are incredibly lazy

I'm not just talking Titan and yogg but over the years everybody who has ripped off everybody, nobody or at least nobody has reported, any physical violence done to these people.

As a group humans are not usually prone to being rational; and there is always that person that says screw it they'll never able to figure out who did it and take a bat to the perpetrators...

Nice to see we are better than that.

-Dave
legendary
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
Ty....Again incredible job with your detective work! I agree I am surprised nobody has done anything unless its happening already.

 I mean this guy is in the USA! ThankGod I have only the redeemed coins and never lost a Satoshi cause of this issue!

  I do hope this is investigated by legal authorities and accountability is held against Titan!
legendary
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@everyone - I’m not sure I’ve even asked this or have seen anyone state it..but has anyone personally ever been able to redeem a Titan 2FA or know someone who has?

I was bored and looking around for new coins and came across some Reddit threads I apparently missed ..it would seem the 2FA Coins have had issues since day 1.

Todamont…is this you below, or a buddy ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xz9e9/titan_btc_coldstorage_coin_database_shows/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1


Back in 2020 Tim proposed the idea how re-making old peeled coins. It was of course not well received (Anon going GOML on him and justifiably so as Tim was trying to make new sales despite everyone telling him this was a piss poor bs idea) BUT, you’ll see LesbianCow calling him out for non-responsiveness due to 2FA issues..shocker, Tim never addressed it, at least not publicly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reopening-orders-titan-mint-gold-coins-2014-and-2016-5210516



Some random posts I quickly found (I’m sure there’s more)





I already know Tim was planning a scam from early on, if not day 1. This is interesting..so he was charging $140 extra for PK coins , versus 2FA.  There is no logical explanation for this. If anything it makes FAR more sense to charge more for 2FA, as it’s extra work for him, his website, his vault rental at the bank he said he stored the private keys at etc. Looks clear to me this was in aim to push people towards 2FA..and we all now know why.




This post is to inform but also help build the legal case against Tim Fillmore.

For the love of god someone sue this piece of shit.  He’s a scammer, and has money. So many want to hunt down Yogg who stole way less and has no money…I for the life of me can’t understand this.
legendary
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.

   So this coin has not been peeled and swept yet? I agree with Chi!  Sweep right away to make sure you get your BTC.

   The coin looks in great shape as well. I bought one just like this but not with the keys and the hologram when they

   were sold a few years back. I love the designs and all especially the Greek soldiers ones.

   Good luck with your sale and am curious what price it will bring in this market.
legendary
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I hate to say this because Tim Fillmore is a scumbag fuck, but that’s a beautiful coin (though Tim didn’t design it).

First off, crack and peel asap. Leave hologram intact as best as possible. It would likely be worth grading to increase premium. ICG would be your go to and if you want to spend the extra time and money PCGS might be willing to grade it after ICG (if you’re not familiar PCGS is the standard for coin grading globally, so it would be worth more in it’s slab than ICG..by how much, who knows). Hell maybe they’d grade it without ICG doing so first. It’s a murky area right now w PCGS.

I’d say it’s probably worth $500-1000 above spot value. It’s impossible to say though. Maybe just post a “WTS” thread and ask for offers and see what you get or run an auction and make the minimum first bid the lowest amount you’d be willing to sell it for.

Lastly, happy 4/20 back at ya Smiley  
Indeed, what a waste of a beautiful collectible. Glad to know that Tim-guy didn't create the design himself. To me this makes it easier for the coin to keep a higher collectors value in itself.

A little OT, but since you mentioned it, please let me know if I got this right: So PCGS doesn't grade some crypto coins UNLESS they were already graded (by ICG)?



That was the case for graded stuff because Anonymousminer was verifying them for ICG. That job has now been taken over by MinerJones ..as you know there’s not many people on the planet who can accurately identify these crypto coins as real or fake. Thanks to China who makes everything dirt cheap,  people have been able to cheaply nearly perfect Casascius holograms, and I’d not be shocked to see them do others. PCGS wanting to keep their good reputation decided this would be the best course of action for them to get in to the space. Now this might have changed a little as I said it’s murky..minerjones and Charlie Lee would probably be the two who know best as to what the current deal is. I’ll ask one of them and report back. (Perhaps someone else can chime in w knowledge).
legendary
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Disobey.

I hate to say this because Tim Fillmore is a scumbag fuck, but that’s a beautiful coin (though Tim didn’t design it).

First off, crack and peel asap. Leave hologram intact as best as possible. It would likely be worth grading to increase premium. ICG would be your go to and if you want to spend the extra time and money PCGS might be willing to grade it after ICG (if you’re not familiar PCGS is the standard for coin grading globally, so it would be worth more in it’s slab than ICG..by how much, who knows). Hell maybe they’d grade it without ICG doing so first. It’s a murky area right now w PCGS.

I’d say it’s probably worth $500-1000 above spot value. It’s impossible to say though. Maybe just post a “WTS” thread and ask for offers and see what you get or run an auction and make the minimum first bid the lowest amount you’d be willing to sell it for.

Lastly, happy 4/20 back at ya Smiley  
Indeed, what a waste of a beautiful collectible. Glad to know that Tim-guy didn't create the design himself. To me this makes it easier for the coin to keep a higher collectors value in itself.

A little OT, but since you mentioned it, please let me know if I got this right: So PCGS doesn't grade some crypto coins UNLESS they were already graded (by ICG)?

legendary
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I hate to say this because Tim Fillmore is a scumbag fuck, but that’s a beautiful coin (though Tim didn’t design it).

First off, crack and peel asap. Leave hologram intact as best as possible. It would likely be worth grading to increase premium. ICG would be your go to and if you want to spend the extra time and money PCGS might be willing to grade it after ICG (if you’re not familiar PCGS is the standard for coin grading globally, so it would be worth more in it’s slab than ICG..by how much, who knows). Hell maybe they’d grade it without ICG doing so first. It’s a murky area right now w PCGS.

I’d say it’s probably worth $500-1000 above spot value. It’s impossible to say though. Maybe just post a “WTS” thread and ask for offers and see what you get or run an auction and make the minimum first bid the lowest amount you’d be willing to sell it for.

Lastly, happy 4/20 back at ya Smiley 
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