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Topic: to Europeans: can you please try explain to me why your countries accept Muslims (Read 10448 times)

legendary
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chemtrails:  'Owning the weather by 2025'...it's now 2016 FYI.  There are a fair number of patents involving releasing material from aircraft to achieve environmental effects.  That it does not yet ever happen is a stretch.

BTW, NOAA recently reported that commercial aircraft are 'accidentally' doing weather modification.  Funny how it took them so long to figure that one out.  They should have asked one of the rapidly growing pool of wacho's like me who would have pointed upward into the sky and suggested opening their eyes.

Confusing fantasy "chemtrails" with moisture vapor stratospheric trails is a big mistake.  Making something out of nothing one might say...

What is the basis for your apparently rock solid belief that you know with certainty the chemical composition of the persistent and spreading trails which are common these days?  If I might ask.....


Knowledge of aircraft structures, and reference books.  Few planes have the ability to disperse chemicals from tanks, particularly at wingtips.  Water vapor trails created by wing and tail tips are very well understood.

I guess you could look at spectrographic analysis of them if you wanted.

I am not saying that there cannot be slight weather mods from water vapor clouds at jet cruise altitudes, but water vapor and clouds are not "chem trails."
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
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chemtrails:  'Owning the weather by 2025'...it's now 2016 FYI.  There are a fair number of patents involving releasing material from aircraft to achieve environmental effects.  That it does not yet ever happen is a stretch.

BTW, NOAA recently reported that commercial aircraft are 'accidentally' doing weather modification.  Funny how it took them so long to figure that one out.  They should have asked one of the rapidly growing pool of wacho's like me who would have pointed upward into the sky and suggested opening their eyes.

Confusing fantasy "chemtrails" with moisture vapor stratospheric trails is a big mistake.  Making something out of nothing one might say...

What is the basis for your apparently rock solid belief that you know with certainty the chemical composition of the persistent and spreading trails which are common these days?  If I might ask.

By the way, I poo-poo'd this 'conspiracy theory' myself, and with some forcefulness, until a few years ago.  Mostly what got me looking around a bit was various oddities that I observed with my own eyes over my head.  I got so interested by some of the stuff I saw that I actually started researched the right kind of camera to to the kinds of monitoring I would need to meet the level of rigor I thought I would wish to make meaningful observations.  Before I finished figuring this out almost all of the oddities stopped and I have seen almost none since.  This would have been in probably June of 2015.  We now have the same kinds of cloud cover I remember as a kid, and the typical shitty winters that I remembered (2012/13 and 2013/14 being amazingly nice and dry.)  It's actually a bit more wet than 'normal', but that is fairly easily explained by an el-nino this year.  I'm in the Southern Pacific NW by the way.

Oh, once you've convinced me that you perform your own spectral analysis to verify that water vapor is now acting in new and interesting ways, you can start to convince me that, ya, the Air Force was interested in 'owning the weather by 2025' and a lot of people obtained patents, but that project was dropped as uninteresting, not useful, unethical, non-profitable, etc.

Or you could try to convince me that the .mil site was defaced.  Or that it is a funny joke by air force folks with a sense of humor.  I would not rule out either of these, but they also do strike me as unlikely.

legendary
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Yes flat earth, NWO plan, chemtrails...

flat earth:  Laughable psy-op undertaken partially to facilitate posts like yours.

NWO plan:  The null hypothesis (no plan) is kind of absurd.

chemtrails:  'Owning the weather by 2025'...it's now 2016 FYI.  There are a fair number of patents involving releasing material from aircraft to achieve environmental effects.  That it does not yet ever happen is a stretch.

BTW, NOAA recently reported that commercial aircraft are 'accidentally' doing weather modification.  Funny how it took them so long to figure that one out.  They should have asked one of the rapidly growing pool of wacho's like me who would have pointed upward into the sky and suggested opening their eyes.


Confusing fantasy "chemtrails" with moisture vapor stratospheric trails is a big mistake.  Making something out of nothing one might say...
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
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Yes flat earth, NWO plan, chemtrails...

flat earth:  Laughable psy-op undertaken partially to facilitate posts like yours.

NWO plan:  The null hypothesis (no plan) is kind of absurd.

chemtrails:  'Owning the weather by 2025'...it's now 2016 FYI.  There are a fair number of patents involving releasing material from aircraft to achieve environmental effects.  That it does not yet ever happen is a stretch.

BTW, NOAA recently reported that commercial aircraft are 'accidentally' doing weather modification.  Funny how it took them so long to figure that one out.  They should have asked one of the rapidly growing pool of wacho's like me who would have pointed upward into the sky and suggested opening their eyes.

member
Activity: 98
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My country accepts people, if they decide living with the rules and norms of the country. We do not discriminate or reject people on behalf of their religion. Why should a Christian, budhist or an atheist be more welcome than a muslim?
hero member
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Well, it could be effective in furthering a Zionist objective.  Europe seems to be less inclined to support the type of ethnic cleansing required to achieve a 'greater Israel' than we here in the U.S. for some reason.  Pumping Europe full of criminals and associating their crimes with Islam probably would create an equivalence between what the masses want/need to do in Europe and what the Zionist wish to do in the Middle East.  An equivalence in the 'herd mind' at least, that that is all-important.

I'm certainly not saying that this is happening.  All I am doing is mulling over some of the 'motive' parts of a 'means, motive, opportunity' equation.  It is up to those who are more interested to uncover positive or negative information about the other components.  I'll look at any evidence brought to the table with an open mind.

Wouldn't it be more likely that the movement of huge numbers of Muslims to Europe would be caused by people who say over and over they want to take over Europe....like Muslims?

It doesn't seem more likely to me.  'Muslims' have no power to even begin to do what is happening with the immigration stuff as far as I can tell.  They are dust blowing in a wind they have no real influence over.  I'm pretty convince that this is planned and implemented by those who have a broader vision.  Indeed, I've long felt that Zionists are probably but a cog in the same class as Christians, Muslims, Scientism-ists, etc.

I've also not really seen 'Muslims say over and over again' that they wish to take over Europe.  Maybe a few crazies who are very probably Western intel plants make some noise about this but my sense is that the average Muslim in Indonesia, Iran, etc, etc doesn't really give two fucks about Europe and certainly has no interest in 'taking it over'.  They've got the same set of problems of putting food on the table as everyone else by-n-large.  If it were not for Western drones exploding their wedding parties and such they probably would hardly think about the West any more than I think about Tajikistan.



Yes flat earth, NWO plan, chemtrails...
legendary
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I don't understand how Europeans decided it was a good idea to accept muslim immigrants and asylum seekers, refugees etc etc

can someone explain to me the thought process of how local Europeans and their governments decided being over run by muslims was a good strategy for the future of Europe?

I truly believe Islam is not compatible with democracy and the western world, but that is another debate.

The UN technically forced us too, along with the EU. It is not the religion that is corrupt, it is a small minority of extremist "Muslims". There is extremist groups of all faiths Islamism, Hindu, Catholocism/Christianity... ETC...

Neither the UN nor the EU can "force" on this issue. Europeans are largely accepting it, even celebrating it. But, eh, fuck them. Europeans will get what they deserve.

Regarding Islam, you sound like you've never studied it. The Jihadists are not a sign that Islam is "corrupt." The Jihadists are following the pure vision of Islam, as set out by their warrior prophet Mohammed. I'd challenge you to write a few paragraphs for yourself about when Mohammed lived and what he did. Then look up some sources and compare it to what you wrote. No offense, but most people (including most Muslims) know almost nothing about Islam and its founding.

Same with other religions. No one follows their religion to the letter. And they aren't unchangeable. Everyone ignores one part or another and has their interpretations. So you're basically agreeing with him. Most christians, muslims, etc moved on and are peaceful. Then there are extremists that haven't moved on. Or that follow only what they want of their religion.
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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
I don't understand how Europeans decided it was a good idea to accept muslim immigrants and asylum seekers, refugees etc etc

can someone explain to me the thought process of how local Europeans and their governments decided being over run by muslims was a good strategy for the future of Europe?

I truly believe Islam is not compatible with democracy and the western world, but that is another debate.

The UN technically forced us too, along with the EU. It is not the religion that is corrupt, it is a small minority of extremist "Muslims". There is extremist groups of all faiths Islamism, Hindu, Catholocism/Christianity... ETC...

Neither the UN nor the EU can "force" on this issue. Europeans are largely accepting it, even celebrating it. But, eh, fuck them. Europeans will get what they deserve.

Regarding Islam, you sound like you've never studied it. The Jihadists are not a sign that Islam is "corrupt." The Jihadists are following the pure vision of Islam, as set out by their warrior prophet Mohammed. I'd challenge you to write a few paragraphs for yourself about when Mohammed lived and what he did. Then look up some sources and compare it to what you wrote. No offense, but most people (including most Muslims) know almost nothing about Islam and its founding.
member
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I don't understand how Europeans decided it was a good idea to accept muslim immigrants and asylum seekers, refugees etc etc

can someone explain to me the thought process of how local Europeans and their governments decided being over run by muslims was a good strategy for the future of Europe?

I truly believe Islam is not compatible with democracy and the western world, but that is another debate.

The UN technically forced us too, along with the EU. It is not the religion that is corrupt, it is a small minority of extremist "Muslims". There is extremist groups of all faiths Islamism, Hindu, Catholocism/Christianity... ETC...
legendary
Activity: 4760
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The only people I see making such statements about taking over large territories are the likes of 'ISIS' and it's well beyond 'conspiracy theory' that this group and other's like them are fully a creation of Western intelligence organizations.....


Bah.

You can prove anything anywhere with that kind of logic.

For example.  "It's well documented that the US fought with Russia in WWII Therefore Communism is the Product of US and British Intel."

Want more examples?  Just take the logical grammer and substitute true facts with different nouns.

I've watched with signification interest the evolution of 'ISIS/ISIL' since before most people had heard of the term.  It has been abundantly clear exactly what they are and what the goals of the operation (Western+ Wahhabist funding/training if ISIL/ISIS) since that time.  This is an even more blatant scam than the global warming hoax as I rate things.

TeamWakeEmUP (aka, Redsilverj) has done quite a thorough job of analysis in his 'Breaking Bullcrap' series recently covering the laughable 'beheading' hoaxes and a raft of other related stuff including a remarkable number of amusing 'mis-statements' by the likes of Obama, McCain, Clinton, Graham, etc.  Worth the time to watch this content IMHO.

legendary
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Wouldn't it be more likely that the movement of huge numbers of Muslims to Europe would be caused by people who say over and over they want to take over Europe....like Muslims?

It doesn't seem more likely to me.  'Muslims' have no power to even begin to do what is happening with the immigration stuff as far as I can tell.  They are dust blowing in a wind they have no real influence over.  I'm pretty convince that this is planned and implemented by those who have a broader vision.  Indeed, I've long felt that Zionists are probably but a cog in the same class as Christians, Muslims, Scientism-ists, etc.

I've also not really seen 'Muslims say over and over again' that they wish to take over Europe.  Maybe a few crazies who are very probably Western intel plants ....

This is crazy talk.  You are reversing cause and effect, and rationalizing placing cause in the most unlikely places, instead of the most likely.  It doesn't even make sense as a conspiracy theory.

The only people I see making such statements about taking over large territories are the likes of 'ISIS' and it's well beyond 'conspiracy theory' that this group and other's like them are fully a creation of Western intelligence organizations.....

Bah.

You can prove anything anywhere with that kind of logic.

For example.  "It's well documented that the US fought with Russia in WWII Therefore Communism is the Product of US and British Intel."

Want more examples?  Just take the logical grammer and substitute true facts with different nouns.

legendary
Activity: 4760
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Wouldn't it be more likely that the movement of huge numbers of Muslims to Europe would be caused by people who say over and over they want to take over Europe....like Muslims?

It doesn't seem more likely to me.  'Muslims' have no power to even begin to do what is happening with the immigration stuff as far as I can tell.  They are dust blowing in a wind they have no real influence over.  I'm pretty convince that this is planned and implemented by those who have a broader vision.  Indeed, I've long felt that Zionists are probably but a cog in the same class as Christians, Muslims, Scientism-ists, etc.

I've also not really seen 'Muslims say over and over again' that they wish to take over Europe.  Maybe a few crazies who are very probably Western intel plants ....

This is crazy talk.  You are reversing cause and effect, and rationalizing placing cause in the most unlikely places, instead of the most likely.  It doesn't even make sense as a conspiracy theory.

The only people I see making such statements about taking over large territories are the likes of 'ISIS' and it's well beyond 'conspiracy theory' that this group and other's like them are fully a creation of Western intelligence organizations.

The main adjustment I would make to my statement is to clarify that those involved in the psy-op may not be 'crazies' in real life, but act that way as part of the show.

I don't doubt that outfits such as ISIS have roped in some genuine wack-a-doodle Muslims (and the percentage of said among the population are roughly the same as in Christians, Hindu, Buddhist, etc religions) but that contingent of them in these manufactured and loud-mouth groups are nearly completely powerless to do anything on their own and pose zero threat to me or to any semi-functional nation state.  The problem comes when a 'semi-functional nation state', (or someone with influence over them (e.g., the United Nations)) sees the presence foreign radicals/criminals dispersed through a population as a way to achieve an objective which would otherwise be unpopular.  Bio-metric identification, increased individualized surveillance, and clamping down on internet freedoms would be some examples.

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ts simple. Because the European countries are controlled by Zionist Jews and Freemasons. Thats why.
Suuuurrrrreeee.

The Evil Jews are working to bring millions of Muslims into Europe.

That's a good one.

Lol...

Well, it could be effective in furthering a Zionist objective.  Europe seems to be less inclined to support the type of ethnic cleansing required to achieve a 'greater Israel' than we here in the U.S. for some reason.  Pumping Europe full of criminals and associating their crimes with Islam probably would create an equivalence between what the masses want/need to do in Europe and what the Zionist wish to do in the Middle East.  An equivalence in the 'herd mind' at least, that that is all-important.

I'm certainly not saying that this is happening.  All I am doing is mulling over some of the 'motive' parts of a 'means, motive, opportunity' equation.  It is up to those who are more interested to uncover positive or negative information about the other components.  I'll look at any evidence brought to the table with an open mind.



It's all part of the beginning of Armageddon foretold by the Bible.

Smiley

Do you really think that ISIS are the beginning of the Armageddon?

I am sure and there are a lots of evidence who telling us about what was happen in the Bible in the distant past. Every word from the prophets was come true. Every word! And what is written in the book of Revelation and what is happening right now is different. Because, the story is about the war between the angels and demons, not mankind. Mankind in that time will be deleted from the planet and only those who will chose to follow the path to the enlightenment will be saved.

You always have a choice. God never actually tells you that you should must believe in Him. He only shows you the path and the two direction and it is you who will decide to believe and walk the path. I am sure that those who are don't know in what they believe or they reject God as a Light and walk by their own, that they will reborn and will have to learn the same lesson again...
legendary
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Well, it could be effective in furthering a Zionist objective.  Europe seems to be less inclined to support the type of ethnic cleansing required to achieve a 'greater Israel' than we here in the U.S. for some reason.  Pumping Europe full of criminals and associating their crimes with Islam probably would create an equivalence between what the masses want/need to do in Europe and what the Zionist wish to do in the Middle East.  An equivalence in the 'herd mind' at least, that that is all-important.

I'm certainly not saying that this is happening.  All I am doing is mulling over some of the 'motive' parts of a 'means, motive, opportunity' equation.  It is up to those who are more interested to uncover positive or negative information about the other components.  I'll look at any evidence brought to the table with an open mind.

Wouldn't it be more likely that the movement of huge numbers of Muslims to Europe would be caused by people who say over and over they want to take over Europe....like Muslims?

It doesn't seem more likely to me.  'Muslims' have no power to even begin to do what is happening with the immigration stuff as far as I can tell.  They are dust blowing in a wind they have no real influence over.  I'm pretty convince that this is planned and implemented by those who have a broader vision.  Indeed, I've long felt that Zionists are probably but a cog in the same class as Christians, Muslims, Scientism-ists, etc.

I've also not really seen 'Muslims say over and over again' that they wish to take over Europe.  Maybe a few crazies who are very probably Western intel plants ....

This is crazy talk.  You are reversing cause and effect, and rationalizing placing cause in the most unlikely places, instead of the most likely.  It doesn't even make sense as a conspiracy theory.
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I don't understand how Europeans decided it was a good idea to accept muslim immigrants and asylum seekers, refugees etc etc

can someone explain to me the thought process of how local Europeans and their governments decided being over run by muslims was a good strategy for the future of Europe?

I truly believe Islam is not compatible with democracy and the western world, but that is another debate.
You're asking the wrong people.

History is written at least 30 years before it happens. All this was calculated to the slightest detail.

Some countries are getting forced to accept them, so they get accepted to European Union.
Some other countries need cheap labor.
Some other countries don't have/had an option.

Hungary did a great job doing its part in this media manipulation fasco.

It's all about geopolitics.

PS: Not sure if your question is serious, because I could ask the same thing about "USA", and you'd have an answer to give.

My answer for USA is easy. Legislation was just passed denying any more Syrians entry. Even though the USA is probably the most responsible for the entire refugee crisis.

Do you have another question?
legendary
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Well, it could be effective in furthering a Zionist objective.  Europe seems to be less inclined to support the type of ethnic cleansing required to achieve a 'greater Israel' than we here in the U.S. for some reason.  Pumping Europe full of criminals and associating their crimes with Islam probably would create an equivalence between what the masses want/need to do in Europe and what the Zionist wish to do in the Middle East.  An equivalence in the 'herd mind' at least, that that is all-important.

I'm certainly not saying that this is happening.  All I am doing is mulling over some of the 'motive' parts of a 'means, motive, opportunity' equation.  It is up to those who are more interested to uncover positive or negative information about the other components.  I'll look at any evidence brought to the table with an open mind.

Wouldn't it be more likely that the movement of huge numbers of Muslims to Europe would be caused by people who say over and over they want to take over Europe....like Muslims?

It doesn't seem more likely to me.  'Muslims' have no power to even begin to do what is happening with the immigration stuff as far as I can tell.  They are dust blowing in a wind they have no real influence over.  I'm pretty convince that this is planned and implemented by those who have a broader vision.  Indeed, I've long felt that Zionists are probably but a cog in the same class as Christians, Muslims, Scientism-ists, etc.

I've also not really seen 'Muslims say over and over again' that they wish to take over Europe.  Maybe a few crazies who are very probably Western intel plants make some noise about this but my sense is that the average Muslim in Indonesia, Iran, etc, etc doesn't really give two fucks about Europe and certainly has no interest in 'taking it over'.  They've got the same set of problems of putting food on the table as everyone else by-n-large.  If it were not for Western drones exploding their wedding parties and such they probably would hardly think about the West any more than I think about Tajikistan.

legendary
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ts simple. Because the European countries are controlled by Zionist Jews and Freemasons. Thats why.
Suuuurrrrreeee.

The Evil Jews are working to bring millions of Muslims into Europe.

That's a good one.

Lol...

Well, it could be effective in furthering a Zionist objective.  Europe seems to be less inclined to support the type of ethnic cleansing required to achieve a 'greater Israel' than we here in the U.S. for some reason.  Pumping Europe full of criminals and associating their crimes with Islam probably would create an equivalence between what the masses want/need to do in Europe and what the Zionist wish to do in the Middle East.  An equivalence in the 'herd mind' at least, that that is all-important.

I'm certainly not saying that this is happening.  All I am doing is mulling over some of the 'motive' parts of a 'means, motive, opportunity' equation.  It is up to those who are more interested to uncover positive or negative information about the other components.  I'll look at any evidence brought to the table with an open mind.


Wouldn't it be more likely that the movement of huge numbers of Muslims to Europe would be caused by people who say over and over they want to take over Europe....like Muslims?
hero member
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If you want to learn more about the connection between the Bible and the Zionists you can read the book Bible Not for Adults of Argyris Tsakalias.

http://www.gbip.gr/book/1096/Tsakal%C3%ADas,_Arg%C3%BDris_D./Bible_Not_for_Adults
hero member
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The Bible is a book written by Zionists. So, if you read the Bible, you read the plans of Zionists.
sr. member
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Muslims are welcome, muslims are not terrorist, only few of them and I dont like to call them muslims, just crazy people.
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