Topic: Transgender - page 3. (Read 9766 times)

Not denying that there is a biological aspect to it (all those studies a few pages ago), but unless somebody is faking it (IE, they don't have dysphoria and just want attention) then they are.  My comment was more aimed at the second part of the quote, where he made a distinction between a mental health disorder causing dysphoria and being transgender.  Dysphoria (and whatever caused it biologically by extention) is the disorder, not the side effect.

This exemplifies the problem with the social based theory of gender identity. These activist groups tell everyone that gender identity is 100% a social construct, as a result, it leads to misinformation not just among LGBT peoples, but among every one else. This constant denial of biological processes behind transgender, gender dysphoria, and gender identity generally leaves everyone else misinformed and lead to believe that either these people are only just mentally ill, or they are confused and acting out.

Of course some times this is true, but this socialization theory completely denies the actual biological differences in people that can cause this to result, making it appear to be nothing more than a choice, causing an even greater divide as people reject the socialization theory thinking that it represents the whole argument, simply because these activist groups talk the loudest.

What exactly do you mean by "If you went through and tested these people"?  The definition of transgender is having gender dysphoria, so if you think you are one then by definition you are.

More and more men are bitches?

Now I'm confused.

I thought it was just the transgender confused ones always bitching who were bitches.

And let's not forget about all the trans-black people too.

Don't forget all the feminization of men due to chemicals, GMOs etc.

The gay population and the transgender ones are just a bunch of people who want attention in most cases. Of course, this is not all. I do know a few people who are gay, but they are not trying to push all of this stuff on us. Even with the gay marriage ruling they have no desire to go out and get married and have not done it yet. But the ones who are pushing their agenda are the ones who have all the money.

As you mentioned, Jenner is a good example. He has a ton of money and as soon as they started running out of story lines for their show (no one getting married, second and third babies not that exciting), he is all of a sudden transgender and has been for years. And now we need to go out and fight for this poor rich man’s right to dress up like a girl. I am so sick of hearing what a hero Jenner is. It is not heroic to dress up like a girl and get a little bit of plastic surgery. It must be so hard to get all of the good things about being a woman and miss out on all the actual day to day living of being a woman much less the poor women who have real challenges and struggles going on throughout the day.

This is all being pushed on use with those who have an agenda and who have all the money.  You do not hear about little Johnny down the block who used to be a girl. It is just Jenner. The amount of people who are transgender throughout all of history, by the definition of transgender not them just saying that they are in order to get attention and get you to notice them, is only a few cases. You can sit there and say that the Christians are crazy for saying “God does not make mistakes” but if you went through and tested these people, none of them would be transgender. They probably have some mental health disorder that is causing a problem, sure, but it is not because they are transgender. In Jenner’s case, it probably had something to do with being attached to that Kardashian clan for such a long time.

There's a word for that.  It's called "being confused."

Thats not something I would back. Where would you draw the line? I want the latest eye upgrade and I should be able to get it under your thinking. Or new knees.

Everyone who wants more dicks or vaginas should get them by tax payers money. otherwise it's a human right crime.

There is evidence as well to support the idea that some of this psychological confusion is driven by hormonal imbalances. Some people may or may not wish to get treatment for this, but it is important for people to be aware there is some biological basis to gender identity, and there is possibly some way to balance this out to help alleviate these issues. I am not saying everyone who is transgender is just ill, because I don't believe this is true, but it is important for this information to be available so people can make their OWN choices without people politicizing biological processes needlessly.

I think it's kind of similar, an identity crisis of a sort where they can't identify with their gender. Their brain can't identify with the physical gender they've been born with and it mixes them up.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/meet-canadas-only-transgender-federal-election-221926963.html
First trans person on a federal ballot

Like we did not see this one coming.

Just again, I have to say. I totally believe this is happening. It happened in feminism too. As a woman, I still think feminism did way more harm then good. These sideline people are trying to direct things, and create friction where there need not be friction, because they want things to dissipate. In feminism, it led to women taking jobs and being separated from their families, so that children would be brought up to be alone, versus family members. I know my parents were divorced, and my mom had to work 2 jobs to take care of us, and though I loved spending time with her when we could, I ended up being way more independent.

As for transgenders, the message should have been tolerance from the beginning not acceptance. But whoever orchestrated that, knew that. The fact that some people think those words mean the same thing, is no mistake, IMHO.

First of all, I have already made my point clear that most LGBT people would be perfectly happy to be tolerated and live their lives in peace without being harassed. Second of all, you made this conclusion first, I was simply expanding on it, now you are disagreeing with it calling it a generalization when it was not a generalization, but an observation of activities within the LGBT community. Please resist the urge to be so PC that you contradict yourself.

The activist groups within this community are the ones with the Marxist ties pushing this nonsense and teaching LGBT people that this kind of behavior is a form of justice, using the protected status of these people to push their Marxist ideologies in order to create more division and weaken society as a whole so it can be more easily displaced with Socialism and Marxist based ideals. In reality these activists groups don't give a damn about their struggles and are simply inhabiting that community and many others like a parasite.

For tumblrites?  Possibly.  For the everyday LGBT person, they just want to live their lives.  There are bad apples in every population, but saying being LGBT gives you some messed up ideology is a pretty sweeping generalization.

For comparison, an estimated 2 to 8 percent of rape accusations are false.  If we go off the lower number, There are 1875 false rape accusations per year.  This means that there could be 118 false hate crimes and still fall within about the same area, up to 400+ if we use the larger estimate.  These numbers fall well within the range of the FBI's hate crime statistics, which have 1260 LGBT-related hate crimes

Rape statistics
false accusations



edited for better sources instead of guesstimations

I think part of the reason it may be more common in the LGBT community is because of the Marxist roots of the socialized gender identity theory where they believe gender identity is 100% a result of societal conditioning. This kind of rational can make it a lot easier for people to justify these things in their minds because it promotes a unique sense of entitlement that results from the idea that all of society has stolen your true identity from you. As they are a smaller group compared to any racial minority group, pretty much anyone is a justifiable target based on that ideology.

True, but it doesn't stop some that are not white from taking advantage of it.  Although it does seem to be more common among the LGBT community, I'd guess this is because of the recent media coverage giving the ideas to those who would do this type of thing.

http://fakehatecrimes.org/

It intrigues me that as a thing transgender exists. I just personally can't imagine the feelings that lead someone to believe they are the wrong gender. I just can't fathom what it would be like to look down at my genitals and think 'this is wrong.

No, it is not specific to LGBT people, but unlike a black person, you can't really prove if some one is actually gay or not. This opens up abuse of the idea of protected classes on a whole other level. Literally anyone could make these claims for almost any reason. Try pretending to be black and see how that works out for you.

It's so fascinating what we can do with modern science! On one side there's a obviously male manly man and yet that man becomes a obviously female looking girly girl! It blows my mind!