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Quote from: D-law on November 19, 2022, 05:30:14 PM

I have also seen a video of Guardiola complaining why is the champions league hard and difficult to win
They are looking as good favorites for the competition
Guardiola is trying one more time even if he fails, they can close last season but Madrid made it through

The Champions League is always difficult for all teams because every team that qualify for the Champions League will always try to perform as well as possible because they all have to be able to prove themselves to be the best in the Champions League as Real Madrid did last season. And this season it won't be easy for any team to get the Champions League trophy easily because Real Madrid and several other teams are not in a bad condition either.

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Chelsea performance in this season made people to feel bad about the team because since they sacked Thomas tuchel from Chelsea made some of their potential players to lose focus in their position. The way this new Chelsea manager is benching some of their strikers that know how to achieve early goals that will bring victory at the end of the game, show that this new Chelsea manager cannot help the team to win this trophy.

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People are acting like Chelsea wasn't horrible at the end of Thomas Tuchel era, I understand that we won the champion league with him but what happened a year later, Chelsea got totally humiliated by Real Madrid at their home and couldn't hold a lead we were having that could have taken us to the next stage of the competition and who knows maybe we would had been able to defend the title which is something no premier league side has been able to do. Chelsea picked up form immediately Potter was signed and we are still in the tournament.

Assuming Thomas Tuchel wasn't sacked we would had gone out of the competition by now. Thomas Tuchel was playing a not so interesting football that revolved around passing the ball at the back without having any upfront force to put the goal at the back of the opponent post. With Potter, we're trying to be a little direct and with time we shall perfect that playing strategy and start winning games.

Yes, let's look forward to positive changes for Chelsea because actually, in the first few matches for Potter they also praised Potter a lot. But just because, Chelsea continued to suffer a setback in the Premier League, it was enough to make Potter get criticized and started to doubt.
Admittedly, I also realized that this assessment was too quick, because as a coach who does not have high luck, of course Potter needs more time to make the expected changes.

If I consider that Potter's success with Brighton is also not obtained in a short time, so at least because Potter is in a big club it should be easier for Potter to build a better team.
As Chelsea have better resources, it will help Potter to get the players he wants in the January transfer window. But if it still doesn't give the expected results, then of course the assessment will be right given at that moment.

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Group stage matches do not guarantee the remainder of the tournament. Manchester City have actually played quite well in recent seasons, but have also had some bad luck. They have made it to the final once, in which they were high favorites to win the final against Chelsea. Last season they actually played really well, but they completely collapsed in the last minutes and seconds of the game. There they had many chances at the 0-2, then the game was over. It must be really frustrating that they haven't won this tournament yet when they always start the tournament as favourites.

I have also seen a video of Guardiola complaining why is the champions league hard and difficult to win
They are looking as good favorites for the competition
Guardiola is trying one more time even if he fails, they can close last season but Madrid made it through

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Quote from: Zanab247 on November 19, 2022, 12:18:55 AM

Chelsea performance in this season made people to feel bad about the team because since they sacked Thomas tuchel from Chelsea made some of their potential players to lose focus in their position. The way this new Chelsea manager is benching some of their strikers that know how to achieve early goals that will bring victory at the end of the game, show that this new Chelsea manager cannot help the team to win this trophy.

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People are acting like Chelsea wasn't horrible at the end of Thomas Tuchel era, I understand that we won the champion league with him but what happened a year later, Chelsea got totally humiliated by Real Madrid at their home and couldn't hold a lead we were having that could have taken us to the next stage of the competition and who knows maybe we would had been able to defend the title which is something no premier league side has been able to do. Chelsea picked up form immediately Potter was signed and we are still in the tournament.

Assuming Thomas Tuchel wasn't sacked we would had gone out of the competition by now. Thomas Tuchel was playing a not so interesting football that revolved around passing the ball at the back without having any upfront force to put the goal at the back of the opponent post. With Potter, we're trying to be a little direct and with time we shall perfect that playing strategy and start winning games.

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as long as the Chelsea owner is ready to spend more money in bringing quality players, he will be able to release more money to Graham Potter to make good signings in January open window.
The Chelsea Football Club is struggling to perform and it is not something the owner will ignore because he has already spent a lot. That guy as I see him needs results and he will be able to do anything to have the results that he wants. if it requires signing Ronaldo he will be able to do it this time around, let us wait till January and see how everything will work out

It's like a mess in chelsea thesedays.
The club gave tuchel money to bring fofana, cucurella and koulibally and then fire him plus these players play below expectation and drowning ... what would we expect now? More signing for the champions league ambition? I dont think so , the club might start saving money and let graham potter manage the current squad , how far we can go? I'm not sure ... chelsea might disqualified early from the CL this time.

This mess started when Roman Abramovich sell this club because he was doing amazing job and club was also having good quality and performance but suddenly change of ownership having issues and Tuchel sacked which create more problems now Graham Potter was good in early few matches but now before break Chelsea was second worst club in Premier League for their last five matches performance just two draws and three loses.
But, good thing happened for them now they have good break which is surely going to help them for having better strategy which will bring them back in good shape specially right now they are at eight position with most chances they are going to miss top four spots and their next match in Champions League is against Dortmund which is also not good, but they can give shock to Chelsea as they were tough against Manchester City so most chances this season is going to end on below for Chelsea.

There have been a lot of problems going on with Chelsea currently. Chelsea is not playing well. And obviously, the change of authority has been a problem for them. Tuchel was doing a decent job with the Chelsea team. But all of a sudden they fired him. It’s OK, but they brought in Potter to manage Chelsea. That was a dumb move in my opinion. They could have gotten better options. I think even Zinedine Zidane was an option for them.

I hope they will be able to play better when they come back from the international break.

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Group stage matches do not guarantee the remainder of the tournament. Manchester City have actually played quite well in recent seasons, but have also had some bad luck. They have made it to the final once, in which they were high favorites to win the final against Chelsea. Last season they actually played really well, but they completely collapsed in the last minutes and seconds of the game. There they had many chances at the 0-2, then the game was over. It must be really frustrating that they haven't won this tournament yet when they always start the tournament as favourites.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 19, 2022, 02:49:53 AM

After Tuchel, I heard the news The official was also thinking to fire Potter, I don't who the candidate was because no head coach's name has yet revolved. Maybe only Zidane who is the best coach ever can replace him, but for now, Zidane seems not interested to train the club because he seems to focus on the National team, if any country ready willing to him.

I also have read some articles that tell about the intention of the Chelsea owner to sack him after Chelsea got defeated by Newcastle.
https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/chelsea-stance-graham-potter-sack-25507403
https://www.football365.com/news/chelsea-boehly-potter-sack-decision-four-options-pochettino-zidane-rodgers

There are some candidates to replace him (Zidane, Pochettino, Rodgers).
But I think Zidane is not possible to manage Chelsea. He possibly isn't interested to manage a team like Chelsea. So, Pochettino or Rodgers is the possible coach to replace Potter. However, I think it is too early to think about the decision to sack Potter. He just managed Chelsea, it is better to give him more chances (a longer time). At least, until the season is over.

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Quote from: Bobrox on November 19, 2022, 10:02:34 AM

Milan have quit well performance at Champion League in this season until success qualify to next round although with runner up finished standing, actually not really bad achievement from six games in Champion League have 3 won, 1 draw and 2 loss with 3 points remaining from Chelsea as the leader group standing. Comparison with last season performance at Champion League, Milan failure totally with bottom standing position finished after loss compete with Liverpool and Atletico Madrid.

Its looks have difficult opponent with Tottenham Hotspur on 16 round because Spurs tactician Conte have experience and familiar with AC Milan trough several season become Juventus manager and ever success when becoming Inter Milan manager. I think Milan should effective at home match get full points to make easy when away match.

After poor end in last season now they are back with bang and having second rank behind Chelsea which is good, but now things are going tough because in knock out round they are going to face Tottenham which is quality side and have few top ranked players, but this is not going to be easy for any team to compete and have easy win both needs to give their best for having spot into last eight even Milan is doing amazing performance after winning last year Serie A title, and they are currently second in this season behind Napoli with their performance in Champions League is also good with in last two matches they score eight goals and concede no against Salzburg but before this they were completely down against Chelsea which is surely going to be helpful for Tottenham which is another top class English club.

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When it comes to the Champions League, there is no excuse for the teams who are here now, because this is not the time to talk about that but they have to show the preparations they have made so far. The fans don't want to hear anything from them (the team here) when their performances are unsatisfactory.

There is a reason why it is referred to as the UCL. Its not where you come to give in to pressure or injuries and this of that sort. You've got to be optimum and ready to deliver on all your games. You play all stage as though it was the finals because, things turn quickly in the UCL and a first leg advantage has often appeared not to be enough guarantee for the next phase in the competition.

Actually when talking about not giving up with the condition of the team affected by injuries and the like this is not only for the Champions League but I quite agree if I say indeed when you are in one match here it must be made as if this is a final. In order to continue to be motivated in the match apart from that it is clear that this will also lift our spirits even though we have lost but we have fought well.
Instead of regretting after the end of the game, isn't it better to keep trying to compete as best as possible.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on November 19, 2022, 12:27:16 PM

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as long as the Chelsea owner is ready to spend more money in bringing quality players, he will be able to release more money to Graham Potter to make good signings in January open window.
The Chelsea Football Club is struggling to perform and it is not something the owner will ignore because he has already spent a lot. That guy as I see him needs results and he will be able to do anything to have the results that he wants. if it requires signing Ronaldo he will be able to do it this time around, let us wait till January and see how everything will work out

It's like a mess in chelsea thesedays.

The club gave tuchel money to bring fofana, cucurella and koulibally and then fire him plus these players play below expectation and drowning ... what would we expect now? More signing for the champions league ambition? I dont think so , the club might start saving money and let graham potter manage the current squad , how far we can go? I'm not sure ... chelsea might disqualified early from the CL this time.

This mess started when Roman Abramovich sell this club because he was doing amazing job and club was also having good quality and performance but suddenly change of ownership having issues and Tuchel sacked which create more problems now Graham Potter was good in early few matches but now before break Chelsea was second worst club in Premier League for their last five matches performance just two draws and three loses.

But, good thing happened for them now they have good break which is surely going to help them for having better strategy which will bring them back in good shape specially right now they are at eight position with most chances they are going to miss top four spots and their next match in Champions League is against Dortmund which is also not good, but they can give shock to Chelsea as they were tough against Manchester City so most chances this season is going to end on below for Chelsea.

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Quote from: nara1892 on November 19, 2022, 02:30:56 PM

When it comes to the Champions League, there is no excuse for the teams who are here now, because this is not the time to talk about that but they have to show the preparations they have made so far. The fans don't want to hear anything from them (the team here) when their performances are unsatisfactory.

There is a reason why it is referred to as the UCL. Its not where you come to give in to pressure or injuries and this of that sort. You've got to be optimum and ready to deliver on all your games. You play all stage as though it was the finals because, things turn quickly in the UCL and a first leg advantage has often appeared not to be enough guarantee for the next phase in the competition.

Quote from: poldanmig on November 19, 2022, 11:06:23 AM

Graham potter was previously able to bring Brighton to become a club that is quite respected and even frightening for big English league teams, even if Chelsea are not currently able to be as great as before but at least we can start to see an increase in Chelsea game, we just have to wait for the time to see Chelsea is back on the right track because no matter how great Potter of course he needs time to improve Chelsea.

And where are you seeing this improvement on the Chelsea performance because, I haven't found them to be capable of anything good until we had this international break. Its been one awful performance to another and that's just not commendable of Graham Potter. I can't say his been good as I see Chelsea to be in its worst state.

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Seeing Manchester City performance this season, I think it will be easy for Manchester City to beat Leipzig in the round of 16 meeting later. I've seen their history in the group stage meetings in the previous season where the statistics stated that Leipzig could win the match against Manchester city at home but when they played at home to Manchester City they had to lose with a big score. Even this season the Manchester City squad is stronger than the previous season and it will be difficult for Leipzig to win the first leg match at their home because Manchester City is not a weak opponent for Leipzig. I agree with you, Manchester City will find it easier to qualify for the next round compared to other teams.

With due respect I am not agreed with you about Manchester City easy win against Leipzig because they are not weak as you are feeling they played last five matches against top teams and all won specially against Real Madrid which is currently defending champions and in last season Leipzig won against Manchester City at home these all things indicating now we are in knock out stage and any team can give shocking result with its all about on game day performance nothing else going to help.

Even Manchester City is having few quality players, and they are giving their best but still it's not easy for them to win every match against every team in last few matches before break their performance was also not good in both competitions and now in World Cup they have too many players are involved which can create problems for them, so we have to wait for better prediction about this match.

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When it comes to the Champions League, there is no excuse for the teams who are here now, because this is not the time to talk about that but they have to show the preparations they have made so far. The fans don't want to hear anything from them (the team here) when their performances are unsatisfactory. They must be prepared for such pressure where the pressure will be heavier than usual because of this in terms of fighting for the most prestigious title on this blue continent. It's true that at the moment there are some teams who have problems, I hope they don't show that in the Champions League.

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each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

Graham potter was previously able to bring Brighton to become a club that is quite respected and even frightening for big English league teams, even if Chelsea are not currently able to be as great as before but at least we can start to see an increase in Chelsea game, we just have to wait for the time to see Chelsea is back on the right track because no matter how great Potter of course he needs time to improve Chelsea.

Is it possible that Graham Potter will be able to restore Chelsea's best performance with the current players? Because this season Chelsea will again try to beat challengers in the Champions League. I think Graham potter needs support like adding new players, but look at the activity of Chelsea in the previous transfer market which has spent more € 250 million with 8 new players, I'm afraid this will hinder Graham potter from bringing in the few players he wants in the upcoming transfer market

as long as the Chelsea owner is ready to spend more money in bringing quality players, he will be able to release more money to Graham Potter to make good signings in January open window.
The Chelsea Football Club is struggling to perform and it is not something the owner will ignore because he has already spent a lot. That guy as I see him needs results and he will be able to do anything to have the results that he wants. if it requires signing Ronaldo he will be able to do it this time around, let us wait till January and see how everything will work out

It's like a mess in chelsea thesedays.

The club gave tuchel money to bring fofana, cucurella and koulibally and then fire him plus these players play below expectation and drowning ... what would we expect now? More signing for the champions league ambition? I dont think so , the club might start saving money and let graham potter manage the current squad , how far we can go? I'm not sure ... chelsea might disqualified early from the CL this time.

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each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

Graham potter was previously able to bring Brighton to become a club that is quite respected and even frightening for big English league teams, even if Chelsea are not currently able to be as great as before but at least we can start to see an increase in Chelsea game, we just have to wait for the time to see Chelsea is back on the right track because no matter how great Potter of course he needs time to improve Chelsea.

Is it possible that Graham Potter will be able to restore Chelsea's best performance with the current players? Because this season Chelsea will again try to beat challengers in the Champions League. I think Graham potter needs support like adding new players, but look at the activity of Chelsea in the previous transfer market which has spent more € 250 million with 8 new players, I'm afraid this will hinder Graham potter from bringing in the few players he wants in the upcoming transfer market

as long as the Chelsea owner is ready to spend more money in bringing quality players, he will be able to release more money to Graham Potter to make good signings in January open window.
The Chelsea Football Club is struggling to perform and it is not something the owner will ignore because he has already spent a lot. That guy as I see him needs results and he will be able to do anything to have the results that he wants. if it requires signing Ronaldo he will be able to do it this time around, let us wait till January and see how everything will work out

It has not been such a long time since Graham Potter took charge of Chelsea, but Chelsea's performance looks to start to deteriorate again. Maybe he does need time because coaching a team when the competition is already underway is not an easy task (Moreover, what he coached is a big team that certainly has high targets). I think there will be a question of whether Todd Boehly can be patient and willing to give Graham Potter plenty of time to prove his worth. Because if in the next few matches Chelsea's performance did not improve, surely there will be many people who will doubt Graham Potter (including Todd Boehly).

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each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

Graham potter was previously able to bring Brighton to become a club that is quite respected and even frightening for big English league teams, even if Chelsea are not currently able to be as great as before but at least we can start to see an increase in Chelsea game, we just have to wait for the time to see Chelsea is back on the right track because no matter how great Potter of course he needs time to improve Chelsea.

Is it possible that Graham Potter will be able to restore Chelsea's best performance with the current players? Because this season Chelsea will again try to beat challengers in the Champions League. I think Graham potter needs support like adding new players, but look at the activity of Chelsea in the previous transfer market which has spent more € 250 million with 8 new players, I'm afraid this will hinder Graham potter from bringing in the few players he wants in the upcoming transfer market

as long as the Chelsea owner is ready to spend more money in bringing quality players, he will be able to release more money to Graham Potter to make good signings in January open window.
The Chelsea Football Club is struggling to perform and it is not something the owner will ignore because he has already spent a lot. That guy as I see him needs results and he will be able to do anything to have the results that he wants. if it requires signing Ronaldo he will be able to do it this time around, let us wait till January and see how everything will work out

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 19, 2022, 07:18:29 AM

Manchester City will benefit from opponents who are not too tough in the last 16 of the Champions League later. it seems, they will advance smoothly to the next round phase without heavy resistance from their opponents later. natural because after all, Manchester City is one of the strong candidates who will be candidates to win the championship in this competition. they have an extraordinary depth of players, at this time Haaland is predicted to be the key to realizing the club's dream of winning the champions league trophy for the first time.

However, make no mistake. if, Pep Guardiola's troops underestimate their opponent later in the round of 16. then, the result will be fatal. RB Leipzig is not an opponent that is too strong for Manchester City, but Leipzig will put up a pretty fierce fight and go all out to win the battle when playing matches at their own headquarters.

Even Real Madrid, had difficulty and suffered a 3-2 defeat when they played an away game at RB Leipzig headquarters. this match is no less interesting than the other matches later, because in the first leg, Leipzig played as the home team.

I feel like City could say that about almost any team aside from like maybe 2 or 3 teams. Bayern PSG and Real would be the three difficult teams for them, so that means there are 12 teams which would be very easy for City to beat, and that’s why the odds of them facing an easier opponent is high at all times.

Of course, it could have been like PSG facing Bayern situation for City as well, but that’s good for them, this way one of them will remove the other and there will only be 2 teams left for City to beat. If somehow they end up losing to a team that is worse, then it would actually be a news worthy situation and I feel like that’s not going to happen.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 19, 2022, 11:06:23 AM

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each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

Graham potter was previously able to bring Brighton to become a club that is quite respected and even frightening for big English league teams, even if Chelsea are not currently able to be as great as before but at least we can start to see an increase in Chelsea game, we just have to wait for the time to see Chelsea is back on the right track because no matter how great Potter of course he needs time to improve Chelsea.

Is it possible that Graham Potter will be able to restore Chelsea's best performance with the current players? Because this season Chelsea will again try to beat challengers in the Champions League. I think Graham potter needs support like adding new players, but look at the activity of Chelsea in the previous transfer market which has spent more € 250 million with 8 new players, I'm afraid this will hinder Graham potter from bringing in the few players he wants in the upcoming transfer market

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Quote from: CageMabok on November 19, 2022, 09:43:30 AM

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each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

Graham Potter was still very short in coaching Chelsea so it's not appropriate to conclude he failed or succeeded, because all coaches need time to make the team rise from the downturn the team has experienced in the past. And the end of this season is a good start for Graham Potter to prove he is able to give a different feel to the Chelsea team so that he can put the team in a better position or at least be in the semi-finals of the Champions League.

I think if Graham Potter still plays loftes cheek and always uses 3 defenders, Chelsea will definitely be bleak this year. The ideal formation in my opinion is center forward aubameyang, right wing forward kaihavez, left wing striker sterling, defensive midfielder kante/zakaria, central midfielder jorginho, attacking midfielder mount, right back azpilicueta/reejames, left back ben cilewel, right center back kolibaly/chalobah, left centre-back thiago silva, goalkeeper mendy/kepa. 4-1-2-3 formation.

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each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

Graham potter was previously able to bring Brighton to become a club that is quite respected and even frightening for big English league teams, even if Chelsea are not currently able to be as great as before but at least we can start to see an increase in Chelsea game, we just have to wait for the time to see Chelsea is back on the right track because no matter how great Potter of course he needs time to improve Chelsea.

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