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Quote from: bering on November 19, 2022, 01:01:22 AM

Milan performance on champion league this season is more impressive that they can able to qualified although their position should be determined on the last match and Tottenham also can reach to first position on group phase and there were no meetings statistics for official tournaments before so apparently this is their first met on european competition and i have to say both of teams had underdog status for this competition because less of people will predict Milan or Tottenham will be strong opponents for the trophy and in my opinion their chances to quarterfinal are equally same but Conte had more experience and familiar to fight against Italian teams before so he will used this attempts to beat Milan and i will thinking the opposite that Tottenham had slightly chances to qualified than Milan

Milan have quit well performance at Champion League in this season until success qualify to next round although with runner up finished standing, actually not really bad achievement from six games in Champion League have 3 won, 1 draw and 2 loss with 3 points remaining from Chelsea as the leader group standing. Comparison with last season performance at Champion League, Milan failure totally with bottom standing position finished after loss compete with Liverpool and Atletico Madrid.

Its looks have difficult opponent with Tottenham Hotspur on 16 round because Spurs tactician Conte have experience and familiar with AC Milan trough several season become Juventus manager and ever success when becoming Inter Milan manager. I think Milan should effective at home match get full points to make easy when away match.

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each coach has different tactics as well as the selection of players who according to him match the style of play applied.
Graham Potter has just coached Chelsea after the season and even though Chelsea's performance has not been consistent now, we cannot say that Graham Potter will fail, everything needs process.
when the Chelsea management took quick steps to sack Tuchel, they were convinced by Graham Potter to be able to lift Chelsea's performance.

Graham Potter was still very short in coaching Chelsea so it's not appropriate to conclude he failed or succeeded, because all coaches need time to make the team rise from the downturn the team has experienced in the past. And the end of this season is a good start for Graham Potter to prove he is able to give a different feel to the Chelsea team so that he can put the team in a better position or at least be in the semi-finals of the Champions League.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 19, 2022, 08:18:29 AM

Manchester City will benefit from opponents who are not too tough in the last 16 of the Champions League later. it seems, they will advance smoothly to the next round phase without heavy resistance from their opponents later. natural because after all, Manchester City is one of the strong candidates who will be candidates to win the championship in this competition. they have an extraordinary depth of players, at this time Haaland is predicted to be the key to realizing the club's dream of winning the champions league trophy for the first time.

However, make no mistake. if, Pep Guardiola's troops underestimate their opponent later in the round of 16. then, the result will be fatal. RB Leipzig is not an opponent that is too strong for Manchester City, but Leipzig will put up a pretty fierce fight and go all out to win the battle when playing matches at their own headquarters.

Even Real Madrid, had difficulty and suffered a 3-2 defeat when they played an away game at RB Leipzig headquarters. this match is no less interesting than the other matches later, because in the first leg, Leipzig played as the home team.

I wouldn't want to even disregard Liepzig not to talk of under rate the German Side, Manchester City actually found it sweet bitter with a German side like Dortmund during the group stage, a game with a win and the other which ended with both sides tied as the score ended zero to zero. Erling Haaland wasn't part of the second fixture as a result of light injury.

That's Said, Pep Guardiola should have known Liepzig better and must have the better plan on how to demolish them back to playing German Bundesliga game's during weekends. He's had a great time defeating them countless times during his stay at Bayern Munich.
I'm sure of Manchester City winning this match and securing pass to the next phase / round.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 19, 2022, 08:18:29 AM

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Manchester City is still a worthy contender to win the Champions League. They have a great playing XI. Besides, the rest of the extra players in the team also play great football. That's why Manchester City never had a problem with players.

Manchester City will benefit from opponents who are not too tough in the last 16 of the Champions League later. it seems, they will advance smoothly to the next round phase without heavy resistance from their opponents later. natural because after all, Manchester City is one of the strong candidates who will be candidates to win the championship in this competition. they have an extraordinary depth of players, at this time Haaland is predicted to be the key to realizing the club's dream of winning the champions league trophy for the first time.

However, make no mistake. if, Pep Guardiola's troops underestimate their opponent later in the round of 16. then, the result will be fatal. RB Leipzig is not an opponent that is too strong for Manchester City, but Leipzig will put up a pretty fierce fight and go all out to win the battle when playing matches at their own headquarters.

Even Real Madrid, had difficulty and suffered a 3-2 defeat when they played an away game at RB Leipzig headquarters. this match is no less interesting than the other matches later, because in the first leg, Leipzig played as the home team.

Seeing Manchester City performance this season, I think it will be easy for Manchester City to beat Leipzig in the round of 16 meeting later. I've seen their history in the group stage meetings in the previous season where the statistics stated that Leipzig could win the match against Manchester city at home but when they played at home to Manchester City they had to lose with a big score. Even this season the Manchester City squad is stronger than the previous season and it will be difficult for Leipzig to win the first leg match at their home because Manchester City is not a weak opponent for Leipzig. I agree with you, Manchester City will find it easier to qualify for the next round compared to other teams.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 18, 2022, 04:52:13 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 18, 2022, 04:41:59 AM

That is, in your opinion, in order for Borussia to be on an equal footing with Chelsea, they should have been in their group in first place (beating City)? Grin

I think Chelsea are a little stronger than Borussia, but not much. And when I compare the results of the teams in the group stage, I take into account the strengths of the opponents.

If Chelsea was to be in the same group with Manchester City, what are the chances that Chelsea will survive from the group?
I don't believe that Chelsea is stronger than Dortmund especially in the Champions League, Chelsea I know is really struggling since the season started right from their former coach Thomas to their present coach Porter things has never been stable for Chelsea. We are just hoping for a better February 2023 for Chelsea to perform excellently well when their injured players return.

This is the age-old problem of choosing between two "weak" teams. Chelsea are bad, but look at Borussia in the Bundesliga - they still have the same clown games where good play alternates with disgusting. And if we compare the position of the teams in the national championships, we have to take into account the level of competition - Borussia competes with weaker teams but is still bad. That's why I rate Chelsea as a stronger team.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 17, 2022, 12:00:07 PM

Better in what? Compare the PSG group and the Bayern group and note that Bayern finished in first place and PSG in second. In the national championships, they performed about the same (even if Bayern had a slight decline) - in any case, this is not an indicator, since it is difficult to understand something from the games in the farm league.

Bayern were struggling in Bundesliga too, don't forget about that, and since I'm predicting PSG to win the Champions league since the season started, I would say that they will qualify for sure, I'm confident about PSG to beat Bayern Munich, PSG this year are different, you can say that they are playing in the "farmers league" but they are playing differently as a team, the trio of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi are on fire, I don't think Bayer Munich's defense can stop them if they be in a good form.

You can't read or what? How can you explain PSG's result in a group where they couldn't even beat Benfica? And if we talk about those who are "on fire", then I would name Haaland, but not Mbappe or Neymar - they have normal indicators for the farm league, not outstanding.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on November 19, 2022, 04:26:30 AM

Manchester City is still a worthy contender to win the Champions League. They have a great playing XI. Besides, the rest of the extra players in the team also play great football. That's why Manchester City never had a problem with players.

Manchester City will benefit from opponents who are not too tough in the last 16 of the Champions League later. it seems, they will advance smoothly to the next round phase without heavy resistance from their opponents later. natural because after all, Manchester City is one of the strong candidates who will be candidates to win the championship in this competition. they have an extraordinary depth of players, at this time Haaland is predicted to be the key to realizing the club's dream of winning the champions league trophy for the first time.

However, make no mistake. if, Pep Guardiola's troops underestimate their opponent later in the round of 16. then, the result will be fatal. RB Leipzig is not an opponent that is too strong for Manchester City, but Leipzig will put up a pretty fierce fight and go all out to win the battle when playing matches at their own headquarters.

Even Real Madrid, had difficulty and suffered a 3-2 defeat when they played an away game at RB Leipzig headquarters. this match is no less interesting than the other matches later, because in the first leg, Leipzig played as the home team.

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Quote from: Despairo on November 19, 2022, 04:19:40 AM

Quote from: Docnaster on November 19, 2022, 04:02:09 AM

The biggest mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, and that reminds me, why did they sack Lampard that is their legend? It is a mistake to let Lampard go. Mourinho is a special one and should have been the Chelsea coach till now. Why did Chelsea sell Hazard, he would have scored many goals by now. Why did Chelsea allow Rudiger to go, it is another big mistake.

Tuchel is a big head person, Potter is better since he's want to try any potential player that hasn't been played during Tuchel management. It's Kepa, Tuchel always let Mendy to play while Mendy is really a bad goalkeeper, as you can see Kepa was show a good saves and he's keep playing until now.

Lampard? He's currently become Everton coach, as you can see he can't do much to improve his club, it's useless to let Lampard stay if he's not good become a coach.

Hazard's prime already passed, now he's currently on Real Madrid which is a good club in La Liga and he only play for few matches as a substitution.

tl;dr: Chelsea's decision is right, they only lack of good players.

okay! that is right I have always said that Graham Potter to be the coach of Chelsea is not a mistake I have evaluated the Chelsea team when it was under the management of Tuchel and now that is under the management of Porter. The team now is better than how it was when the season began.
I am very sure that Graham Potter will set the Chelsea team in a straight good form by next year when all the injured players are back

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 19, 2022, 03:49:53 AM

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I agree with you. A big mistake by Chelsea management was to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won the Champions League title thanks to Thomas Tuchel. And it was totally incredible. No one could have imagined that Chelsea would win the Champions League title. Yet Thomas Tuchel has won it. Chelsea management should not sack such a coach. Chelsea have performed well in a few games since Potter took charge, but now Chelsea are once again a struggling team. I don't expect a better performance from Chelsea this season.

After Tuchel, I heard the news The official was also thinking to fire Potter, I don't who the candidate was because no head coach's name has yet revolved. Maybe only Zidane who is the best coach ever can replace him, but for now, Zidane seems not interested to train the club because he seems to focus on the National team, if any country ready willing to him.

The news about todd boehly just like playing a football manager was real. If he will be sacking potter and then chelsea may become a very inconsistent team. It's potentially to be a mediocre team as well. I can't deny the fact that if chelsea was playing so bad. Zidane doesn't prefer to be hired as a coach for the club right now. I guess that if we are seeing the fact that if todd was also an impatient person. He wanna see chelsea to get instant result which is impossible to happen if the team must adapt with the new coach anytime. The players that owned by chelsea were also playing so bad at this moment with 3 loses in a row. That's a very bad result from potter. Todd was too early to sack tuchel.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 18, 2022, 05:56:32 PM

Quote from: imamusma on November 18, 2022, 05:42:34 PM

Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.

To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.

Sacking the Tuchel was surely the worst decision by Chelsea new management because as he was doing things these were going to have good results in long run but a mistake change all development and after Graham Potter arrival few good results highlighted by media as it's going to be the best change but now after just few weeks Chelsea is eight in Premier League table and the second-worst team in form for last few matches as having three loses and two draws which are clearly giving all report about and their chances for qualifying again into Champions League in presence of tough challengers which are at their best.

Tottenham which is at fourth having eight points difference which is not allowing them to have any positive feeling about going into top four with currently New Castle United and Arsenal are having amazing run and good challenge for Manchester City which is currently defending their title.

Manchester City is still a worthy contender to win the Champions League. They have a great playing XI. Besides, the rest of the extra players in the team also play great football. That's why Manchester City never had a problem with players.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 19, 2022, 04:02:09 AM

The biggest mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, and that reminds me, why did they sack Lampard that is their legend? It is a mistake to let Lampard go. Mourinho is a special one and should have been the Chelsea coach till now. Why did Chelsea sell Hazard, he would have scored many goals by now. Why did Chelsea allow Rudiger to go, it is another big mistake.

Tuchel is a big head person, Potter is better since he's want to try any potential player that hasn't been played during Tuchel management. It's Kepa, Tuchel always let Mendy to play while Mendy is really a bad goalkeeper, as you can see Kepa was show a good saves and he's keep playing until now.

Lampard? He's currently become Everton coach, as you can see he can't do much to improve his club, it's useless to let Lampard stay if he's not good become a coach.

Hazard's prime already passed, now he's currently on Real Madrid which is a good club in La Liga and he only play for few matches as a substitution.

tl;dr: Chelsea's decision is right, they only lack of good players.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 18, 2022, 05:56:32 PM

Quote from: imamusma on November 18, 2022, 05:42:34 PM

Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.

To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.

Sacking the Tuchel was surely the worst decision by Chelsea new management because as he was doing things these were going to have good results in long run but a mistake change all development and after Graham Potter arrival few good results highlighted by media as it's going to be the best change but now after just few weeks Chelsea is eight in Premier League table and the second-worst team in form for last few matches as having three loses and two draws which are clearly giving all report about and their chances for qualifying again into Champions League in presence of tough challengers which are at their best.

Tottenham which is at fourth having eight points difference which is not allowing them to have any positive feeling about going into top four with currently New Castle United and Arsenal are having amazing run and good challenge for Manchester City which is currently defending their title.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 19, 2022, 03:49:53 AM

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on November 18, 2022, 06:54:56 PM

I agree with you. A big mistake by Chelsea management was to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won the Champions League title thanks to Thomas Tuchel. And it was totally incredible. No one could have imagined that Chelsea would win the Champions League title. Yet Thomas Tuchel has won it. Chelsea management should not sack such a coach. Chelsea have performed well in a few games since Potter took charge, but now Chelsea are once again a struggling team. I don't expect a better performance from Chelsea this season.

After Tuchel, I heard the news The official was also thinking to fire Potter, I don't who the candidate was because no head coach's name has yet revolved. Maybe only Zidane who is the best coach ever can replace him, but for now, Zidane seems not interested to train the club because he seems to focus on the National team, if any country ready willing to him.

The biggest mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, and that reminds me, why did they sack Lampard that is their legend? It is a mistake to let Lampard go. Mourinho is a special one and should have been the Chelsea coach till now. Why did Chelsea sell Hazard, he would have scored many goals by now. Why did Chelsea allow Rudiger to go, it is another big mistake.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on November 18, 2022, 06:54:56 PM

I agree with you. A big mistake by Chelsea management was to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won the Champions League title thanks to Thomas Tuchel. And it was totally incredible. No one could have imagined that Chelsea would win the Champions League title. Yet Thomas Tuchel has won it. Chelsea management should not sack such a coach. Chelsea have performed well in a few games since Potter took charge, but now Chelsea are once again a struggling team. I don't expect a better performance from Chelsea this season.

After Tuchel, I heard the news The official was also thinking to fire Potter, I don't who the candidate was because no head coach's name has yet revolved. Maybe only Zidane who is the best coach ever can replace him, but for now, Zidane seems not interested to train the club because he seems to focus on the National team, if any country ready willing to him.

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Chelsea performance in this season made people to feel bad about the team because since they sacked Thomas tuchel from Chelsea made some of their potential players to lose focus in their position. The way this new Chelsea manager is benching some of their strikers that know how to achieve early goals that will bring victory at the end of the game, show that this new Chelsea manager cannot help the team to win this trophy.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 18, 2022, 07:01:20 PM

For Milan - Tottenham matchup, I would like to see Milan to advance to the quarter final honestly. Because we haven't seen Milan being successful in the Champions League for many years. They were one of the biggest teams here back in the day. But now they are newly getting accustomed to be a part of this organization again.

I like Conte's Tottenham but I'm doubting their performance in the Champions League still. They barely reached this stage after the final group games. It is hard to predict what they can do against Milan as well. It has been eleven years since they met in this tournament the last time.

Milan performance on champion league this season is more impressive that they can able to qualified although their position should be determined on the last match and Tottenham also can reach to first position on group phase and there were no meetings statistics for official tournaments before so apparently this is their first met on european competition and i have to say both of teams had underdog status for this competition because less of people will predict Milan or Tottenham will be strong opponents for the trophy and in my opinion their chances to quarterfinal are equally same but Conte had more experience and familiar to fight against Italian teams before so he will used this attempts to beat Milan and i will thinking the opposite that Tottenham had slightly chances to qualified than Milan

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It would be nice if your words about "this season or never again" turned out to be true. Because City are in the same position and if one of these oil clubs is left out of the Champions League title holders I will be very happy. In general, I do not expect surprises in the Bayern-PSG pairing, I hope both clubs will be in optimal shape and then Bayern should win confidently. It will be worse if Bayern has some kind of failure.

PSG and Bayern are now in an interesting situation. Both clubs have the same number of wins in their head-to-head encounters. But I remember how well PSG played in the quarterfinals last year. Back then too, many thought that Bayern would win without any problems, but PSG gave a fight. This year the teams are playing equally well and it is hard to say who will win, but I think PSG look better now.

Better in what? Compare the PSG group and the Bayern group and note that Bayern finished in first place and PSG in second. In the national championships, they performed about the same (even if Bayern had a slight decline) - in any case, this is not an indicator, since it is difficult to understand something from the games in the farm league.

Bayern were struggling in Bundesliga too, don't forget about that, and since I'm predicting PSG to win the Champions league since the season started, I would say that they will qualify for sure, I'm confident about PSG to beat Bayern Munich, PSG this year are different, you can say that they are playing in the "farmers league" but they are playing differently as a team, the trio of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi are on fire, I don't think Bayer Munich's defense can stop them if they be in a good form.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 18, 2022, 07:01:20 PM

For Milan - Tottenham matchup, I would like to see Milan to advance to the quarter final honestly. Because we haven't seen Milan being successful in the Champions League for many years. They were one of the biggest teams here back in the day. But now they are newly getting accustomed to be a part of this organization again.
I like Conte's Tottenham but I'm doubting their performance in the Champions League still. They barely reached this stage after the final group games. It is hard to predict what they can do against Milan as well. It has been eleven years since they met in this tournament the last time.

Both Tottenham and Milan are doing well in their respective leagues. And so it is difficult to predict which team will win this match. But I think Tottenham has more chance to win than AC Milan. Because AC Milan's goal was never to do well in the Champions League. They want to perform well in Serie A. And their full focus will be on Serie A. And we think the Tottenham team will win against Milan.

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For Milan - Tottenham matchup, I would like to see Milan to advance to the quarter final honestly. Because we haven't seen Milan being successful in the Champions League for many years. They were one of the biggest teams here back in the day. But now they are newly getting accustomed to be a part of this organization again.

I like Conte's Tottenham but I'm doubting their performance in the Champions League still. They barely reached this stage after the final group games. It is hard to predict what they can do against Milan as well. It has been eleven years since they met in this tournament the last time.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 18, 2022, 05:56:32 PM

Quote from: imamusma on November 18, 2022, 05:42:34 PM

Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.

To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.

I agree with you. A big mistake by Chelsea management was to sack Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won the Champions League title thanks to Thomas Tuchel. And it was totally incredible. No one could have imagined that Chelsea would win the Champions League title. Yet Thomas Tuchel has won it. Chelsea management should not sack such a coach. Chelsea have performed well in a few games since Potter took charge, but now Chelsea are once again a struggling team. I don't expect a better performance from Chelsea this season.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 18, 2022, 05:42:34 PM

Even I have to say they have improved since Potter's arrival, but maybe you should ignore the results of his last 5 matches. The fact Potter managed to get Chelsea out of the Champions League group stage should be the reason why Chelsea have improved. Even so, Chelsea has only played 14 matches in the Premier League, it will soon improve even better in the second half of this season.

To be honest i have never really heard of Potter before he became the coach of FC Chelsea. Looking at the results i would say that his work so far is not really that successful. I think that Chelsea made a huge mistake by firing Thomas Tuchel as their coach. I mean he became coach of FC Chelsea when they were in a really terrible state and after he came he not only made them successful in the Premier League again he even won the Champions League with them, which was an exceptional performance as a coach. I think Tuchel is one of the top 5 football coaches in the world right now. The only thing is that he seems to be kinda complicated to handle sometimes for the club officials.

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