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November 12, 2022, 09:26:10 AM
But Liverpool have some great players that Real Madrid don't have. However, Real Madrid's young players are playing good football, which has a promising future ahead of them. However, one of Liverpool's players is Mohamed Salah, Diaz. If Real Madrid and Liverpool play. Then I will treat both teams equally.
If you want to treat the two teams equally, now try to look at all the players on the two teams. From my personal point of view Real Madrid have had a little more great players than Liverpool this season so the level of quality for these two teams is different now and the potential for better is clearly on Real Madrid's side even though this match between these two teams is what many have been waiting for people this season
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November 12, 2022, 09:11:09 AM
If this round 16 fixtures of Champions League were to be played before the World Cup, Liverpool wouldn't have survived the stage as Real Madrid would have been able to beat them both Home and Away.
I thank their goodness that there is break of world cup which means some club will likely come back in good form after the world cup, while some will go back to bad shape. I believe the world cup break will bring good news to Liverpool in order to enable them face the champions Real Madrid


Yes, if the scenario is like that. most likely, Liverpool will not be able to fight Real Madrid in the last 16 of the champions league.  With unstable performances, injured players, underperforming front-line players, it's hard for Liverpool to keep up with Real Madrid's game with the current state of the team. however, with the hiatus of all competitions due to the world cup.

Liverpool have time to recover the mentality of their players, and have enough time to recover their injured players. Klopp has room to evaluate every weakness that has been holding them back so far and rebuild strengths in prime condition. and yes, we hope that Liverpool can return to their best game after the world cup ends.
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November 12, 2022, 07:56:26 AM
This game was only possible because PSG failed in the group stage. If PSG took first place, then we would see a pair of Bayern - Benfica and everyone would react to this as "Benfica was good, but now it's over." PSG would have played Brugge and everyone would have treated this match the same way. But PSG failed and now we see in the 1/8 what we should have seen in the later stages of the tournament.

PSG's performance in the group stage was not bad. But Benfica's performance was better. And so PSG was second in the table. However, these are now past. PSG and Bayern Munich must now focus on their next match. And the team that wins the PSG vs Bayern Munich match, I think the team will go to the final. However, I just want to enjoy a competitive match. As both teams are very strong. So the match will definitely be competitive. And both of them have strong attacks. So I want to see several goals in this match.

Given the budget and expectations, the result of PSG in the group is terrible. They competed not with City as last season, but only with Benfica and Juventus, and still the result was again second place. But at the moment I don't think that the teams will focus on this match as it won't take place anytime soon. It seems to me that now the teams are developing strategies on how to get out of the break during which the World Cup will take place with the least losses.
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November 12, 2022, 07:40:10 AM
If you look at how Real Madrid played in the playoffs in the last Champions League, we will see that all the games were difficult and they sometimes won in the last minutes, but they never gave up and fought to the last. It shows the character of the team and it's very important because Liverpool don't know how to rebuild if they lose, they play well when everything goes according to their plan from the very beginning.
It's not certain in football that a comeback in those crucial minutes can happen in any game and not just focusing on Real Madrid performance which always surprises in the last minutes. Liverpool can do the same. But here the context is that Liverpool obviously has to be a bit more careful. Actually, this is only part of the attack technique which is to let the opponent finish the bullets early, once they run out of bullets can attack back with all the ammo available.
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November 12, 2022, 07:18:42 AM
But Liverpool have some great players that Real Madrid don't have. However, Real Madrid's young players are playing good football, which has a promising future ahead of them. However, one of Liverpool's players is Mohamed Salah, Diaz. If Real Madrid and Liverpool play. Then I will treat both teams equally.
What do you mean by saying Liverpool have great players that Real Madrid don't have? are the players that Real Madrid have now not great? If you look at the comparison of the players of the two teams, they almost have the same quality. But now almost all Liverpool players are not at their best. I totally disagree if you say Real Madrid players are not as good as Liverpool players.
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November 12, 2022, 06:19:35 AM

Real Madrid has never shown a trivial attitude towards any team, in fact they have played at full strength in every game, it's just that I see Liverpool's condition a little different this season, the consistency in the League has not been seen as full quality against Real Madrid in the last 16 and hopefully Liverpool are able to overcome these shortcomings.
It's hard to make a precise prediction, who will win the home or away game, but Real Madrid's chances are great
If you look at how Real Madrid played in the playoffs in the last Champions League, we will see that all the games were difficult and they sometimes won in the last minutes, but they never gave up and fought to the last. It shows the character of the team and it's very important because Liverpool don't know how to rebuild if they lose, they play well when everything goes according to their plan from the very beginning.
But Liverpool have some great players that Real Madrid don't have. However, Real Madrid's young players are playing good football, which has a promising future ahead of them. However, one of Liverpool's players is Mohamed Salah, Diaz. If Real Madrid and Liverpool play. Then I will treat both teams equally.
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November 12, 2022, 06:05:04 AM
I am a bit worried about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool match, as I see both teams equally. We will see a great match. Maybe because of the World Cup, many things can change between the two teams It remains to be seen how they will affect the team.

I don't see any similarity between the two teams, on the contrary maybe there is a difference with the last time Madrid and Liverpool met
Overall, Liverpool's form has been on the decline and has received a lot of attention since entering the new season as some of their league match end in disappointment.
Even though Liverpool won 5 of 6 Champions League group stage match, but Jurgen Klopp still needs to refresh in some positions that look less effective
If this round 16 fixtures of Champions League were to be played before the World Cup, Liverpool wouldn't have survived the stage as Real Madrid would have been able to beat them both Home and Away.
I thank their goodness that there is break of world cup which means some club will likely come back in good form after the world cup, while some will go back to bad shape. I believe the world cup break will bring good news to Liverpool in order to enable them face the champions Real Madrid


I agree, Liverpool started this season very badly both in the Champions League and in the English League and this break due to the World Cup will be very good for them.
I remember that last season they started the season very badly and were far behind in the English championship for Manchester City, and in the end they almost overtook them in the championship table and played the second part of the season perfectly.
They also played in the final against Real and unfortunately lost even though they were better and had a lot more chances.
Regardless of all that, I still think that Real is currently a more complete and better team than Liverpool and a slight favorite in their new match.
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November 12, 2022, 05:28:48 AM

Real Madrid has never shown a trivial attitude towards any team, in fact they have played at full strength in every game, it's just that I see Liverpool's condition a little different this season, the consistency in the League has not been seen as full quality against Real Madrid in the last 16 and hopefully Liverpool are able to overcome these shortcomings.
It's hard to make a precise prediction, who will win the home or away game, but Real Madrid's chances are great
If you look at how Real Madrid played in the playoffs in the last Champions League, we will see that all the games were difficult and they sometimes won in the last minutes, but they never gave up and fought to the last. It shows the character of the team and it's very important because Liverpool don't know how to rebuild if they lose, they play well when everything goes according to their plan from the very beginning.
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November 12, 2022, 05:16:32 AM
I am a bit worried about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool match, as I see both teams equally. We will see a great match. Maybe because of the World Cup, many things can change between the two teams It remains to be seen how they will affect the team.
I don't see any similarity between the two teams, on the contrary maybe there is a difference with the last time Madrid and Liverpool met
Overall, Liverpool's form has been on the decline and has received a lot of attention since entering the new season as some of their league match end in disappointment.
Even though Liverpool won 5 of 6 Champions League group stage match, but Jurgen Klopp still needs to refresh in some positions that look less effective
If this round 16 fixtures of Champions League were to be played before the World Cup, Liverpool wouldn't have survived the stage as Real Madrid would have been able to beat them both Home and Away.
I thank their goodness that there is break of world cup which means some club will likely come back in good form after the world cup, while some will go back to bad shape. I believe the world cup break will bring good news to Liverpool in order to enable them face the champions Real Madrid

You are right. If Real Madrid had to face Liverpool before the World Cup, Liverpool would undoubtedly have been defeated. Because even though Liverpool has a strong squad, their performance is weak. Liverpool is not able to perform well as a team. In such a situation, it is not possible for them to win against a strong team like Real Madrid. Liverpool will have to decide their match strategy during the World Cup break.
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November 12, 2022, 04:02:34 AM
I am a bit worried about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool match, as I see both teams equally. We will see a great match. Maybe because of the World Cup, many things can change between the two teams It remains to be seen how they will affect the team.

I don't see any similarity between the two teams, on the contrary maybe there is a difference with the last time Madrid and Liverpool met
Overall, Liverpool's form has been on the decline and has received a lot of attention since entering the new season as some of their league match end in disappointment.
Even though Liverpool won 5 of 6 Champions League group stage match, but Jurgen Klopp still needs to refresh in some positions that look less effective
If this round 16 fixtures of Champions League were to be played before the World Cup, Liverpool wouldn't have survived the stage as Real Madrid would have been able to beat them both Home and Away.
I thank their goodness that there is break of world cup which means some club will likely come back in good form after the world cup, while some will go back to bad shape. I believe the world cup break will bring good news to Liverpool in order to enable them face the champions Real Madrid
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November 12, 2022, 03:50:55 AM
I don't see any similarity between the two teams, on the contrary maybe there is a difference with the last time Madrid and Liverpool met
Overall, Liverpool's form has been on the decline and has received a lot of attention since entering the new season as some of their league match end in disappointment.
Even though Liverpool won 5 of 6 Champions League group stage match, but Jurgen Klopp still needs to refresh in some positions that look less effective
Liverpool is one of the best team in the english premier league but it's barely noticeable due to the fact that they're not use to signing big players but always contended with what they really have. Facing real Madrid in the round of 16 is definitely one of the tough game we're waiting to watch and hoping that this time around, liverpool should not fall victim after losing to the Los blancos back to back in the finals. The world cup will really change things for real Madrid and Liverpool which will either be deform or inform after the world cup, most players will come back injured.
it is a possibility that it will happen but we can't say that now, because there will be changes after the world cup because players are injured or underperforming is something that is unexpected or maybe even some players will perform better after the world cup.
but for now Liverpool are really in poor form, and of course by facing Real Madrid in the last 16, their chances of qualifying are very small if you look at the current performance of the two teams.
for a surprise to occur is not impossible, but the chance is small.
Rea Madrid is a team with a very strong mentality on the European stage, they will be very difficult to beat.

If I consider the current moment I think Liverpool still have a chance to win and qualify for the next round, because even though Liverpool looks bad, Liverpool have so far still been able to win against top teams. So yes, even though this match will take place next year there will certainly be changes in the team, but I still believe Klopp can deliver a good result for Liverpool.
Maybe it's a minority choice because I also admit that Real Madrid is indeed a tough team in all competitions, but I'm still trying to give Klopp confidence to be able to succeed in revenge.

Because this is Klopp's third chance to beat Real Madrid, because on the previous two occasions Klopp failed to beat Real Madrid. In my view Liverpool have a solid squad, so for them to beat Real Madrid it is still possible.
It doesn't matter about their position in the local league which is indeed very different, because I'm pretty sure Liverpool will be better against a team that on paper is difficult for them to beat.
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November 12, 2022, 03:32:51 AM
Liverpool might win Madrid if they see it as an opportunity to avenge last year's final match but if they fail to go extra mile to prepare for this victory, Real Madrid will win them again this year. Liverpool can not be judged by their performance in EPL because they know the value of UCL and plays well in other to qualify. Some clubs use the opportunity of UCL to rank up their qualification to the UCL game next season especially when they did not perform well in local leagues.
Even though the UCL and EPL are different, the quality of the players owned by the two teams is not much different, meaning they still use the same formation in every match, it's just that matches in the UCL are more challenging and prestigious, because the UCL is the highest caste of all existing leagues, so many teams who are competing against each other and trying to focus more on the group stage, round of 16 and reaching the final.

Last season when Liverpool was doing well, I still believe that Real Madrid can beat it, but this season Liverpool's performance is again inconsistent in the EPL standings so that it makes Liverpool out of the big four, but that performance can be a blunder (lose) for Real Madrid if you underestimate Liverpool.
Real Madrid has never shown a trivial attitude towards any team, in fact they have played at full strength in every game, it's just that I see Liverpool's condition a little different this season, the consistency in the League has not been seen as full quality against Real Madrid in the last 16 and hopefully Liverpool are able to overcome these shortcomings.
It's hard to make a precise prediction, who will win the home or away game, but Real Madrid's chances are great
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November 11, 2022, 11:32:26 PM
There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.
They should have squandered another chance in the Europa League or they would have received even more boos if they failed only in the early games. Especially clubs like Barcelona, Juventus, and several other big teams that failed in the UCL. In fact, in the European League itself, there are also Arsenal, Man United, Real Betis, Lazio, and other big teams that are currently on fire. This will be more interesting, won't it?

True, Europa League will be more interesting to watch when there are some big names such as the ones you mention above. Juventus is still questionable whether they will be able to go to Europa League or not after failed in the group stage of UCL. Their point is the same as Maccabi while Juventus have to face PSG in the last match. Anyway, even though Europa League is not as popular as UCL, I believe these big teams will try their best to catch the trophy. A trophy is still a trophy, catching it is better then nothing.

The Europa Lweague has taken great interest by many people, teams have been entering that I did not think I would see there in these times, of course Man United, Barceona are not common teams here, but I understand that sometimes you have to keep climbing to get to the best , if you're not at the level it's tough, now as you say, PSG is a very tough team, but I don't know, Juve is a team that has been an example throughout Italy, I think Juve has heart and has shown it in their games and this is something that must be recognized, for me that is very important, because I believe that every team can never lower their morale, just as they fall to the Europa League, they have to come out victorious.

I understand why there is a huge gap among Manchester City and the other teams. Haaland is the biggest factor for Manchester City to be this much clear favourite. I'm a little surprised with Bayern Munich's being favoured more than PSG. But maybe it is related to the group stage performances. PSG didn't impress much as they couldn't beat Benfica and lost the lead to them. Real Madrid are just waiting behind these teams silently. We shouldn't disregard them easily for the championship. I'm even thinking about placing a bet on them to become the champions again.  Grin
Bayern is one legend of champions league besides Real Madrid because of that they are being favored. They also have more experienced fight with top club for long time and and able to overcome it all, while PSG they are is look new comer with new composition even the squad have more than what they want, but still they are not much compete in high class. And, for sure when Bayern can beat them in 16 round without have problem, they will one of champion candidate other than Madrid and Man City.

we'll see how determined PSG can beat Munich. they always had the desire to win the Champions League. even with an amazing squad they always fail in the end. Munich is one of the strong candidates for the trophy hunt this season. but I will probably support Man City more for this season. they have played more consistently this season. although we all know the teams that qualify for the top 16 are strong teams. of course, any favorite team could have slipped with the dark horse team this season.

I couldn't agree more with you, I really want Bayern to go through, and they have everything to do so, although I've always been a fan of Madrid, first of all I want Madrid to win again, as a second option if they manage to eliminate Madrid I would like Bayern and Man City as the third option, just because there is Haaland and Pep Guardiola, who for me is a teacher just like Mou.

When we put in context all the amount of speculation that we do, I like that many people in the world have the same thought as in another very distant place, the exchange of information is quite fast and despite the fact that there are different styles of football, tastes for good football is the one that prevails.
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November 11, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
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Liverpool, Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich are the 5 favorite teams in this season's Champions League. But unfortunately 4 of these 5 teams really have to compete with each other to qualify for the next round.

I think Real Madrid, Manchester City and PSG will qualify for the next round even though it's never certain now. Liverpool are a strong team for Real Madrid, but we have proven we can be like the previous season. Bayern and PSG are the toughest matches, it must be difficult to get one of them in the next round. But I really hope Real Madrid can prove whatever I expect this season, they have to win and qualify.
Sooner or later these teams will meet in the quarter-finals or semi-finals. Something unexpected happened this season, PSG vs Bayern Munich and Liverpool vs Real Madrid met sooner than expected.
Bayern Munich dominance in the UCL is still very thick, Munich managed to go to the last 16 by packing all the wins. PSG, who has long dreamed of the UCL trophy, is a tough opponent that Munich will face.
Liverpool will meet again with Real Madrid this season, Liverpool will carry out the mission of revenge for their defeat last season.
It is certain that the two teams will fall in these two matches because they will beat each other to go to the next round.

I have no doubt in saying Manchester City will go to the next round easily because the opponent they are facing is relatively weak when compared to the quality of Manchester City squad. The quarter-finals will leave three favorite teams plus a surprise team this season like Napoli.
Not only Real Madrid deserve to qualify for the next round, other teams also have the same opportunity as long as they are able to maintain their performance. In the end only the team that is able to give the best performance will go to the final. It's still too early to shoot who deserves to be there.
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November 11, 2022, 10:30:28 PM
I don't see any similarity between the two teams, on the contrary maybe there is a difference with the last time Madrid and Liverpool met
Overall, Liverpool's form has been on the decline and has received a lot of attention since entering the new season as some of their league match end in disappointment.
Even though Liverpool won 5 of 6 Champions League group stage match, but Jurgen Klopp still needs to refresh in some positions that look less effective
Liverpool is one of the best team in the english premier league but it's barely noticeable due to the fact that they're not use to signing big players but always contended with what they really have. Facing real Madrid in the round of 16 is definitely one of the tough game we're waiting to watch and hoping that this time around, liverpool should not fall victim after losing to the Los blancos back to back in the finals. The world cup will really change things for real Madrid and Liverpool which will either be deform or inform after the world cup, most players will come back injured.
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November 11, 2022, 09:46:48 PM
I am a bit worried about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool match, as I see both teams equally. We will see a great match. Maybe because of the World Cup, many things can change between the two teams It remains to be seen how they will affect the team.

I don't see any similarity between the two teams, on the contrary maybe there is a difference with the last time Madrid and Liverpool met
Overall, Liverpool's form has been on the decline and has received a lot of attention since entering the new season as some of their league match end in disappointment.
Even though Liverpool won 5 of 6 Champions League group stage match, but Jurgen Klopp still needs to refresh in some positions that look less effective
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November 11, 2022, 05:16:59 PM
Here the experience of the team and the coach in managing the season and fatigue counts a lot. Last year they managed masterfully, archiving La Liga and dedicating themselves exclusively to the Champions League. From the textbook.
honestly for me Real Madrid is the favorite, but they could also lose easily, being the favorite means nothing

Indeed, winning the matches is not determined by experience, the team's performance for 90 minutes on the field have an important role. I agree with you. But, if from the history of Ancelotti's meeting with Liverpool in various competitions since becoming AC Milan coach, Ancelotti actually has the ability to bring his players to win matches. It's not 100%, but his knowledge of Liverpool's weak points could be one of the reasons why Madrid can win the game, but it's not an easy win for sure.
Certainly the performance of the team for 90minutes is the game decider in every game. From the history of Ancelloti's meeting with Liverpool in various competitions from being AC Milan coach to Real Madrid he has been successful, he seems to understand and know how to beat Liverpool especially in top competitions. With these experience I think it is likely that Ancelloti will defeat Liverpool again.
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November 11, 2022, 04:36:58 PM
I understand why there is a huge gap among Manchester City and the other teams. Haaland is the biggest factor for Manchester City to be this much clear favourite. I'm a little surprised with Bayern Munich's being favoured more than PSG. But maybe it is related to the group stage performances. PSG didn't impress much as they couldn't beat Benfica and lost the lead to them. Real Madrid are just waiting behind these teams silently. We shouldn't disregard them easily for the championship. I'm even thinking about placing a bet on them to become the champions again.  Grin
Bayern is one legend of champions league besides Real Madrid because of that they are being favored. They also have more experienced fight with top club for long time and and able to overcome it all, while PSG they are is look new comer with new composition even the squad have more than what they want, but still they are not much compete in high class. And, for sure when Bayern can beat them in 16 round without have problem, they will one of champion candidate other than Madrid and Man City.

The presence of Erling Haaland in the Manchester City squad makes them appear more confident. Yes, with Haaland we can see what Manchester City can do this season. The position that they lacked last season has been filled with players who are hungry for goals. Bayern Munich and Real Madrid are other teams who are very experienced in the Champions League, they are teams that have never missed the competition in this blue continent. But this season we lose Liverpool who are still in a bad situation, unlike last season they are one of the favorites to win the title.
Definitely the presence of Erling Haaland in Manchester city's line up gives them a boost over their opponents because his presence alone causes scare and frightens the opposition defense and mounts pressure on them to make mistakes. they finally got the kind of striker they have been searching for since Aguero. He has all the qualities and ticks so many boxes. He is strong, fast, good in the air and can score many goals for fun, they are indeed lucky to have secured such an asset and I see them going far and possibly reaching the finals of the champions league this season.
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November 11, 2022, 04:15:26 PM
Liverpool are unlucky to match Real Madrid again after they have been beaten and eliminated twice by Real Madrid in the past two seasons they have been matched again this season at this early stage of the Champions League. This could be another humilating game or a revenge match for Liverpool against Real Madrid. One way or the other Liverpool will give in their best in this match to get a positive outcome.
I am pretty sure even UEFA the organizing body would not be happy with this fixture because one of these two superpowers will be eliminated so early in the competition (RO16 stage), they'd also not be happy with the other heavyweight clash between PSG and Bayern Munich, they'd love to see all these four teams in the QF stage at least, it makes the competition more interesting and competitive.

Having said that, it is what it is, and we can have only two of them in the QF stage. It is actually very difficult to predict which of these teams will make it through, but with the way Liverpool are performing i think it is going to be pretty much difficult for them to eliminate the defending champions, things might be entirely different after the WC and by the time we start the RO16 fixtures, but if it does remain the same i think Liverpool would be an easy opponent for Real Madrid, as for PSG v Bayern, that one is unpredictable for now imo.

As Liverpool is scheduled to face Real Madrid in the Champions League, I do not think they will be able to get far in the Champions League as they face a very tough opponent. As you said, it does not seem like they are going to be able to beat Real Madrid at the moment, especially with the way they are performing.

Moreover, it is actually supposed that the team that won the Champions League title last season is going to face the runners-up of the Champions League so early on in the tournament lol, which is quite bizarre. However, there is nothing that can be done at this point. It is not always possible to do things as people always want them to be done.
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Liverpool, Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich are the 5 favorite teams in this season's Champions League. But unfortunately 4 of these 5 teams really have to compete with each other to qualify for the next round.

I think Real Madrid, Manchester City and PSG will qualify for the next round even though it's never certain now. Liverpool are a strong team for Real Madrid, but we have proven we can be like the previous season. Bayern and PSG are the toughest matches, it must be difficult to get one of them in the next round. But I really hope Real Madrid can prove whatever I expect this season, they have to win and qualify.
I am a bit worried about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool match, as I see both teams equally. We will see a great match. Maybe because of the World Cup, many things can change between the two teams It remains to be seen how they will affect the team.

This match is a match that is difficult to predict. At the moment the team is roughly in balance, but since the game will not be played until 2023, a lot of things can still change for both teams. Kan is also present that Spain or England become world champions, which can also do a lot for the confidence and/or form of the team when the Champions League resumes. And we also don't know if both teams will bring reinforcements, although I have my doubts whether they can still play in the Champions League. I thought they were only eligible to play if they weren't active in the Champions League for their previous club.
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