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This break in the competition should help some teams to better prepare for the continuation of the season and increase the chances of a better result.
I'm thinking of Liverpool in particular, who usually start the season worse, but in the second part of the season they play much better and achieve much better results.
If they were to play their match against Real now, they wouldn't have much of a chance, but I'm sure that in the spring they will be much better and more ready for the match with Real.
In any case, a very uncertain and exciting competition awaits us, and we still do not know in what condition the players will return from the world cup.

Yes, a break in this competition will help some teams especially Liverpool. however, not all teams benefit from the world cup break. some teams will be disadvantaged by players who experience fatigue, may get injured after playing their matches in the world cup.

Nonetheless, it appears Klopp has benefited from the World Cup hiatus. as we predicted, if Liverpool played their match with unstable team performance conditions. many of us predict, Liverpool will be powerless against Madrid in the round of 16 later. however, by having a long break due to the world cup break. Klopp, can rearrange his troops and restore the mentality of his troops, plus provide time off for the recovery of injured players.
I hope that after the world cup break ends, Liverpool can show their best game against Real Madrid.

I think these types of breaks are better for those teams which are underperforming. And these types of brakes is not good for those teams which are performing well and consistently, because this certainly takes out the momentum from them in my opinion.

But I think a team which is performing well is more likely to come back and start performing well regardless of a break unless they have injury issues. And this is one thing that clubs will have to be really careful about. But then again, they honestly cannot do anything if a player gets injured, trying to give his full effort at the World Cup for his national team.

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The UEFA Champions League knockout round draw ceremony was held in Nyon, Switzerland, at the UEFA headquarters. This draw was held with 8 champions and runners up of 8 groups. In the draw of the round of sixteen, last season's champions Real Madrid and runners-up Liverpool are meeting in the last sixteen. Group F champions Real Madrid will face Group A runners-up Liverpool.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on November 14, 2022, 05:58:21 AM

It is true that almost every club will stop playing for the World Cup. Due to which the performance of the team players is likely to change later. Some may play brilliantly and some may lose performance. Such changes will have some impact on clubs or tournaments.

The change in performance for each team depends on the condition of each player and that will also make the competition more exciting after the world cup. But the team and the coach must have prepared a bit of an unusual strategy in dealing with this because this season there must be a world cup which makes every team's match in the League be postponed

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 13, 2022, 10:24:04 AM

Bayern Munich become the only one team unbeaten at Champion League and won 6 of 6 games, excellent performance from Bayern at Champion League because 100% winning although have in difficult group stage. Napoli almost have great achievement but last matchday beaten by Liverpool and still lead standing position have more goals.

Have another team still unbeaten at Champion League from Manchester City, PSG and Benfica but not 100% winning ratio games with 4 win of 6 games and two draws. Based on drawing match on 16 round seems Napoli have easy opponent than Real Madrid face Liverpool and Bayern waiting for by PSG.

The toughness of Bayern Munich in the group stage will be tested by PSG in the Round of 16, when viewed from the strength of both, Bayern Munich and PSG both have the opportunity to go to the next round. However, when viewed in terms of consistency in the UCL, Munich is more favored than PSG.
PSG must not make the slightest mistake when dealing with Bayern Munich, PSG attack line consisting of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe must be able to make Munich's defense collapse if they want to go further in the UCL.

Madrid also had tough opponents, it took a lot of concentration to beat Liverpool. Manchester City and Napoli have relatively weak opponents compared to those faced by Madrid and Munich. It's difficult make predictions for the Munich match against PSG and Madrid against Liverpool because all possibilities can still happen.

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Bayern Munich become the only one team unbeaten at Champion League and won 6 of 6 games, excellent performance from Bayern at Champion League because 100% winning although have in difficult group stage. Napoli almost have great achievement but last matchday beaten by Liverpool and still lead standing position have more goals.

Have another team still unbeaten at Champion League from Manchester City, PSG and Benfica but not 100% winning ratio games with 4 win of 6 games and two draws. Based on drawing match on 16 round seems Napoli have easy opponent than Real Madrid face Liverpool and Bayern waiting for by PSG.

Bayern Munich is one of the champion candidates predicted by many people at this time, based on the play-offs they passed quite perfectly. Meanwhile, other teams that haven't lost in the Champions League at the moment, don't have the mentality as good as Bayern Munich or like Real Madrid in my opinion. Napoli are believed to be quite productive and consistent at the moment, but talking about the Champions League it seems a bit difficult for Napoli to reach the final.

Bayern could have a good mentality, but we have seen last year that the mentality they have doesn't really change anything when it comes to win or go home games. Sometimes they can win it all, sometimes they can lose to easy teams, which means that they are not doing that amazingly when it comes to elimination or at the very least, we could say they are not doing that consistently, and they could be amazing or terrible and we do not know which one it will be.

This year they look fine, but we have to wait and see what happens, plus the games will be way down the line, we have world cup first, then some league, and only after that teams will play their UCL games so we have time.

It is true that almost every club will stop playing for the World Cup. Due to which the performance of the team players is likely to change later. Some may play brilliantly and some may lose performance. Such changes will have some impact on clubs or tournaments.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on November 14, 2022, 12:18:04 AM

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Bayern Munich become the only one team unbeaten at Champion League and won 6 of 6 games, excellent performance from Bayern at Champion League because 100% winning although have in difficult group stage. Napoli almost have great achievement but last matchday beaten by Liverpool and still lead standing position have more goals.

Have another team still unbeaten at Champion League from Manchester City, PSG and Benfica but not 100% winning ratio games with 4 win of 6 games and two draws. Based on drawing match on 16 round seems Napoli have easy opponent than Real Madrid face Liverpool and Bayern waiting for by PSG.

Bayern Munich is one of the champion candidates predicted by many people at this time, based on the play-offs they passed quite perfectly. Meanwhile, other teams that haven't lost in the Champions League at the moment, don't have the mentality as good as Bayern Munich or like Real Madrid in my opinion. Napoli are believed to be quite productive and consistent at the moment, but talking about the Champions League it seems a bit difficult for Napoli to reach the final.

Bayern could have a good mentality, but we have seen last year that the mentality they have doesn't really change anything when it comes to win or go home games. Sometimes they can win it all, sometimes they can lose to easy teams, which means that they are not doing that amazingly when it comes to elimination or at the very least, we could say they are not doing that consistently, and they could be amazing or terrible and we do not know which one it will be.

This year they look fine, but we have to wait and see what happens, plus the games will be way down the line, we have world cup first, then some league, and only after that teams will play their UCL games so we have time.

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Quote from: uswa56 on November 14, 2022, 02:37:25 AM

there are two possibilities that will happen, and that is positive and also negative it could be detrimental to the team due to injury or vice versa it will show a much better performance after competing on the world cup stage, it has often happened before.
and for teams filled with star players who have played a lot on the world cup stage, of course they will accept these two possibilities, and of course after the world cup many changes will occur within the team.

I also think that there will be changes in the appearance and performance of each team after the world cup, because player injuries are something that is very likely to happen in football and that can only be avoided if the players rarely go on the field. And the good thing is when there are so strong teams that have injured players, then weak teams will also look strong after the world cup if the players on the weak team are not used in the world cup.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on November 13, 2022, 08:52:08 AM

This break in the competition should help some teams to better prepare for the continuation of the season and increase the chances of a better result.
I'm thinking of Liverpool in particular, who usually start the season worse, but in the second part of the season they play much better and achieve much better results.
If they were to play their match against Real now, they wouldn't have much of a chance, but I'm sure that in the spring they will be much better and more ready for the match with Real.
In any case, a very uncertain and exciting competition awaits us, and we still do not know in what condition the players will return from the world cup.

Yes, a break in this competition will help some teams especially Liverpool. however, not all teams benefit from the world cup break. some teams will be disadvantaged by players who experience fatigue, may get injured after playing their matches in the world cup.

Nonetheless, it appears Klopp has benefited from the World Cup hiatus. as we predicted, if Liverpool played their match with unstable team performance conditions. many of us predict, Liverpool will be powerless against Madrid in the round of 16 later. however, by having a long break due to the world cup break. Klopp, can rearrange his troops and restore the mentality of his troops, plus provide time off for the recovery of injured players.
I hope that after the world cup break ends, Liverpool can show their best game against Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Doell on November 13, 2022, 03:12:56 PM

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After the World Cup some clubs will have problems with their teams because these players are willing to give their best at the World Cup to their Nations. when you look at the Real Madrid players you will understand that the like of Benzema and V.Junior are going to the World Cup as top target for their country. A look at PSG you will understand that both Neymar Messi and Mbappe are all going to the World Cup with high expectations.
All this may result to poor performance after the World Cup by the top players.

I don't think it will affect their game in their current team. It's natural when they want to give their country a title, and also as professional players they have to show their best in the team they are currently defending. Instead I see this as an opportunity for them to give their best and answer all beliefs when they are selected to fill the squad in their country. And when he returns to the team they have to show that playing for their country will not diminish their quality as players.
What I'm worried about is something undesirable like injuries, because the level of competition is very competitive.

I'm also worried about injuries, and yes I agree with Nara regarding performance if there are no injuries main club players such as Benzema and whoever it is will improve even will a better. Because the world cup is an event where top players gather, so there is no doubt about their performance when they return to club will improvement and Champion League will be more interesting to watch.

there are two possibilities that will happen, and that is positive and also negative it could be detrimental to the team due to injury or vice versa it will show a much better performance after competing on the world cup stage, it has often happened before.
and for teams filled with star players who have played a lot on the world cup stage, of course they will accept these two possibilities, and of course after the world cup many changes will occur within the team.

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Quote from: maju69 on November 13, 2022, 08:23:01 AM

All teams will definitely make the best possible preparations to face this round of 16 match. But now they have to wait and support their players to compete in the World Cup while hoping that nothing untoward will happen and they will return with good performance to defend their team. Of course this is not the right time to predict, I mean with a very long time lag then it will at least change the shape of the team later.

Yes, the World Cup break will be clearer before the round of 16 takes place, because the players will first focus on defending their country. But most importantly, as long as the World Cup lasted until the end there were no players who suffered serious injuries. So that the round of 16 will be more interesting and give birth to new surprises beyond the predictions of many people today.

Quote from: Oneandpure on November 13, 2022, 10:24:04 AM

Bayern Munich become the only one team unbeaten at Champion League and won 6 of 6 games, excellent performance from Bayern at Champion League because 100% winning although have in difficult group stage. Napoli almost have great achievement but last matchday beaten by Liverpool and still lead standing position have more goals.

Have another team still unbeaten at Champion League from Manchester City, PSG and Benfica but not 100% winning ratio games with 4 win of 6 games and two draws. Based on drawing match on 16 round seems Napoli have easy opponent than Real Madrid face Liverpool and Bayern waiting for by PSG.

Bayern Munich is one of the champion candidates predicted by many people at this time, based on the play-offs they passed quite perfectly. Meanwhile, other teams that haven't lost in the Champions League at the moment, don't have the mentality as good as Bayern Munich or like Real Madrid in my opinion. Napoli are believed to be quite productive and consistent at the moment, but talking about the Champions League it seems a bit difficult for Napoli to reach the final.

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Quote from: Inwestour on November 12, 2022, 06:28:48 AM

If you look at how Real Madrid played in the playoffs in the last Champions League, we will see that all the games were difficult and they sometimes won in the last minutes, but they never gave up and fought to the last. It shows the character of the team and it's very important because Liverpool don't know how to rebuild if they lose, they play well when everything goes according to their plan from the very beginning.

We watched all of Real Madrid's matches in the play-offs and not all matches were difficult for Real Madrid, the character of Real Madrid's players is different from other teams, Real Madrid has not been declared defeated before the end of the match, this is what amazes me with Real Madrid's style of play and quite optimistic in the round of 16 they will give a positive result.

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But Liverpool have some great players that Real Madrid don't have. However, Real Madrid's young players are playing good football, which has a promising future ahead of them. However, one of Liverpool's players is Mohamed Salah, Diaz. If Real Madrid and Liverpool play. Then I will treat both teams equally.

If you think Liverpool have some great players, then Real Madrid also don't lose to the many great players they have, even the Real Madrid players have good experience in the Champions League, obviously this is a big advantage for Real Madrid.
Karim Benzema, Luka Modric, Thibaut Courtois, Toni Kroos, Carvajal are players who have matured so much in the Champions League, coupled with young players who have quite good quality this season, such as Rodrygo, Vinicius Junior and Federico Valverde, these three players are enough developed under Ancelotti, thus Real Madrid's strength can be said to be perfect this season.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on November 13, 2022, 08:52:08 AM

This break in the competition should help some teams to better prepare for the continuation of the season and increase the chances of a better result.
I'm thinking of Liverpool in particular, who usually start the season worse, but in the second part of the season they play much better and achieve much better results.
If they were to play their match against Real now, they wouldn't have much of a chance, but I'm sure that in the spring they will be much better and more ready for the match with Real.
In any case, a very uncertain and exciting competition awaits us, and we still do not know in what condition the players will return from the world cup.

Well, last year Liverpool and Real played in the finals just as everyone knows, and Real Madrid came there being the underdogs in almost every game. When they played PSG everyone thought PSG would beat Real, when they played Chelsea, Chelsea was the latest UCL winner so nobody knew who would win, when they played City everyone thought City would win and lastly during Liverpool people started to look at Real differently.

But right now, Liverpool is on the other side, nobody expects them to win, and that’s going to make the difference, Liverpool will fight harder, because they know that they are not as good, and they need to work 100% in order to win.

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Quote from: nara1892 on November 13, 2022, 02:44:23 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on November 13, 2022, 11:26:09 AM

After the World Cup some clubs will have problems with their teams because these players are willing to give their best at the World Cup to their Nations. when you look at the Real Madrid players you will understand that the like of Benzema and V.Junior are going to the World Cup as top target for their country. A look at PSG you will understand that both Neymar Messi and Mbappe are all going to the World Cup with high expectations.
All this may result to poor performance after the World Cup by the top players.

I don't think it will affect their game in their current team. It's natural when they want to give their country a title, and also as professional players they have to show their best in the team they are currently defending. Instead I see this as an opportunity for them to give their best and answer all beliefs when they are selected to fill the squad in their country. And when he returns to the team they have to show that playing for their country will not diminish their quality as players.
What I'm worried about is something undesirable like injuries, because the level of competition is very competitive.

I'm also worried about injuries, and yes I agree with Nara regarding performance if there are no injuries main club players such as Benzema and whoever it is will improve even will a better. Because the world cup is an event where top players gather, so there is no doubt about their performance when they return to club will improvement and Champion League will be more interesting to watch.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 13, 2022, 11:26:09 AM

After the World Cup some clubs will have problems with their teams because these players are willing to give their best at the World Cup to their Nations. when you look at the Real Madrid players you will understand that the like of Benzema and V.Junior are going to the World Cup as top target for their country. A look at PSG you will understand that both Neymar Messi and Mbappe are all going to the World Cup with high expectations.
All this may result to poor performance after the World Cup by the top players.

I don't think it will affect their game in their current team. It's natural when they want to give their country a title, and also as professional players they have to show their best in the team they are currently defending. Instead I see this as an opportunity for them to give their best and answer all beliefs when they are selected to fill the squad in their country. And when he returns to the team they have to show that playing for their country will not diminish their quality as players.
What I'm worried about is something undesirable like injuries, because the level of competition is very competitive.

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Given the budget and expectations, the result of PSG in the group is terrible. They competed not with City as last season, but only with Benfica and Juventus, and still the result was again second place. But at the moment I don't think that the teams will focus on this match as it won't take place anytime soon. It seems to me that now the teams are developing strategies on how to get out of the break during which the World Cup will take place with the least losses.

They are lucky enough because Juventus are not in a good form, so the level of competition they provide is greatly reduced, it makes it easier for Paris Saint Germain to get a place in the round of 16. If at that time Juventus were in good form then it would be very difficult for them to be at least in second place. In fact they are still unable to compete with Benfica to be at the top of the standings. Now the team they will face is Bayern Munich for sure it will give them a very tight fight. Even though they have big name strikers in this case it is teamwork that speaks more, and I see Bayern Munich's teamwork being better than paris Saint Germain.

By the way, yes, I did not think about this option - indeed, the Italian teams were famous for the fact that with their discipline and defensive play they could defeat the brighter favorites. It would be ridiculous to see such an outcome, but I hope Bayern will cope with the task and we will see the relegation of PSG, even if not after the group stage.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 13, 2022, 04:30:09 AM

This is a challenge for Liverpool coach who has only one function or duty to perform and that is to make sure his team is able to score Real Madrid. No matter how good you play in your match against Real Madrid if you are unable to net, you are definitely going to lose the match. So his ability to improve Liverpool's team to score in big matches is a every big plus to the team. I Believe by that time he will have available Diaz, Firmino and Salah

Providing direction and motivation to the players to be able to score goals against Real Madrid is really necessary, but you also have to see how Ancelotti takes care of the Real Madrid players until they all become extraordinary in every match and competition. So if you think Real Madrid players can't score more goals against Liverpool, that's a big mistake because Real Madrid players are very productive players in scoring goals against their opponents.

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After the World Cup some clubs will have problems with their teams because these players are willing to give their best at the World Cup to their Nations. when you look at the Real Madrid players you will understand that the like of Benzema and V.Junior are going to the World Cup as top target for their country. A look at PSG you will understand that both Neymar Messi and Mbappe are all going to the World Cup with high expectations.
All this may result to poor performance after the World Cup by the top players.

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The match between Liverpool and Napoli gives a somewhat distorted picture. In the 2nd half, Napoli made it 0-1 with about 25 minutes to go I believe. If it is 0-1, then I don't see Liverpool winning that game anymore. At the moment Napoli are playing better than Liverpool. I think there are only a few teams that are really better than Napoli at the moment. Bayern Munich, PSG and Manchester City. But PSG and Munich are playing against each other, unbelievable actually that this is a match in the 1/8th final. This should really be a final. A few years ago, Munich won, then PSG hadn't really created a decent chance, but now things will be different with Messi.

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Unseeded teams must also be watched this season, Napoli for example who have played very well since the start of the season and even until now they are unbeaten.

Napoli have been beaten by Liverpool 2-0, only in Serie A Napoli have never lost, only Bayern Munich have not accepted defeat in the Champions League so far. UCL provides many unpredictable things, many good teams will surprise in the round of 16, although it cannot be predicted accurately, we think Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Napoli have the same chance to advance to the next round.

Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on November 10, 2022, 03:09:34 AM

the team that will play in the next round of UCL is the best European team, but predicting which team will advance to the semifinals is not so difficult. Bayern and Man City will definitely go there, while PSG will have to fight hard to get to the semifinals. they will play bayern and from the history of the two meetings, PSG will be difficult to win against bayern.

but it's true what some people say, it's still too early to predict which team will advance to the UCL semifinals, we don't know what will happen when the world cup starts, many players will be injured or sold in the transfer market.

The possibility of the completion of the World Cup will bring new surprises to clubs competing in the last 16, both players who will suffer injuries or the transfer market that will revive hope for some clubs who have started recruiting new players.
And it's true that it's still too soon to make predictions for the title, but roughly speaking, the club that is often mentioned has a big chance in my opinion.

Yes but the second game against Liverpool wasn't really representative of how well in shape Napoli is. They were totally ok with losing that game 2-0 as they knew they would still take the first spot in the group, so why go all out and risk more than you actually have to? It was still a good enough performance to secure the group stage win and that was their main goal during that game. It is also not to forget that they have beaten Ajax Amsterdam 6-1 in an away game. That doesn't just happen for no reason.

Serie A is more interesting to look at as that performance is just amazing. I quickly tried to check whether this is already the best start ever historically. Perhaps Juventus had a similar start during their prime. There is also one disadvantage considering their performance and that is that nobody will underestimate their strength in any competition. They won't be able to take on an underdog role.

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If you look at how Real Madrid played in the playoffs in the last Champions League, we will see that all the games were difficult and they sometimes won in the last minutes, but they never gave up and fought to the last. It shows the character of the team and it's very important because Liverpool don't know how to rebuild if they lose, they play well when everything goes according to their plan from the very beginning.

It's not certain in football that a comeback in those crucial minutes can happen in any game and not just focusing on Real Madrid performance which always surprises in the last minutes. Liverpool can do the same. But here the context is that Liverpool obviously has to be a bit more careful. Actually, this is only part of the attack technique which is to let the opponent finish the bullets early, once they run out of bullets can attack back with all the ammo available.

This is a challenge for Liverpool coach who has only one function or duty to perform and that is to make sure his team is able to score Real Madrid. No matter how good you play in your match against Real Madrid if you are unable to net, you are definitely going to lose the match. So his ability to improve Liverpool's team to score in big matches is a every big plus to the team. I Believe by that time he will have available Diaz, Firmino and Salah

One thing to consider is whether Real Madrid will still get the same results as last season. Indeed, Real Madrid has a real winning mentality but I think, at the same time, there will always be a factor of luck on his side.
Well, will the luck factor still be on Real Madrid's side this season, because we also realize that last season was a difficult season for Real Madrid because the opponents they faced were top teams who were also in their best form. But that way, last season no one predicted that Real Madrid would qualify for the final.

Therefore, in the previous season Real Madrid had made great achievements, and this season Real Madrid seems to have found it easier to reach the final. So I consider that the reality may be different from last season.
That is, when Real Madrid was not predicted to qualify but last season Real Madrid could qualify and vice versa, it is possible that when Real Madrid was predicted to qualify this season then maybe the result was not, and it was something that could not be predicted exactly.

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