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November 15, 2022, 10:47:17 PM
Just for this season alone Dortmund has not done really well in their local league but in the Champions League they have done averagely well and they have all it takes to face Chelsea by next year.
Both Dotmund and Chelsea have good chances in that draw, only because by next year things might get better or worse with any club depending on the outcome of the players that went to the World Cup . We should expect a totally new Dortmund or Chelsea by next year .
The Champions League is different from the domestic league, if I'm not mistaken Chelsea won the Champions League in 2020/21, it's even strange that they were not consistent at all in the Premier League, but in the Champions League they managed to get maximum results. Likewise with Dortmund or Chelsea this season, nothing is impossible, if they are able to take advantage of opportunities or at least are able to play consistently. Even though football is determined by the quality and readiness of the team in carrying out every match they play, trophies are the result of achievements from the series of preparations they have made.
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November 15, 2022, 07:42:24 PM

Bayern munich is no longer in doubt about their ability in the Champions League in the past few seasons they have continued to be a team that puts a lot of pressure on other teams. In the draw for the last 16 round, Bayern Munich faced Psg, where this match was a place to prove the quality of the team in this season Champions League competition. Both of these teams have the same quality players, but Bayern is more superior in the match that will take place in February. Mbappe really hoped he could embrace the UCL trophy this season but he faced a big obstacle because they had to beat Bayern Munich before going to the next round. can lionel messi help psg win ucl title, it's worth the wait.
Bayern Munich have quite a history when it comes to this competition and much is expected from them every season they compete in the Champions league so it is not something new. PSG desperately want this trophy as bad as they show, probably the first they will be winning in this competition and they have showed they have what it takes to also be champions on several occasions but lack that winning mentality and extra push to grab it but we shall see how well they have improved from the previous outing when they face Bayern Munich in February.
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Bayern munich is no longer in doubt about their ability in the Champions League in the past few seasons they have continued to be a team that puts a lot of pressure on other teams. In the draw for the last 16 round, Bayern Munich faced Psg, where this match was a place to prove the quality of the team in this season Champions League competition. Both of these teams have the same quality players, but Bayern is more superior in the match that will take place in February. Mbappe really hoped he could embrace the UCL trophy this season but he faced a big obstacle because they had to beat Bayern Munich before going to the next round. can lionel messi help psg win ucl title, it's worth the wait.
That game between PSG and Bayern could be a final match or a semifinal one. It is unfortunate to see it that early and it is damn hard to know which team will win and pass to the next stage!
Bayern is a very solid team and whenever they are fit they can humiliate every team they face regardless of their ability like the 8 goals vs Barcelona. Nevertheless they have weak moments where they play badly. PSG needs to win UCL even once, they have one of the most powerful line-up since years and it is like we win that title this season or never again!
I cannot decide which team to back, even the result of the first leg cannot be helpful imo.
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November 15, 2022, 07:20:27 PM
You're right, Duke.  Chelsea Now the team needs to be financially strong if they want to achieve success.  They clearly believe in Graham Potter's managerial skills.  They will have to strive not only with their coaching skills, but also to offer him a quality squad.  I hope Chelsea management realizes this.  They should analyze the deficiencies in the staff well and make transfers accordingly.
This team was so damn bad for now to keep believing with potter. Potter ball was actually BS. Lose streak have proven if what people hyped about him was not even true at all. Chelsea didn't even have a quality. all of players that played at the midfield and attacker have everage skill compared with players in another club like arsenal even newcastle has better squad than it. Average skill players in chelsea must not be over hyped. that will make them have big head. Making transfer will not work anymore if the team keep doing shit during any upcoming match.
There are so many thigns already changed since todd was coming but nothing happened with chelsea, the problem that happened in chelsea was always be the same like the previous season. Hard to create goals against another club.
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November 15, 2022, 05:11:08 PM


Personally I don't think the Dortmund team is strong. But their performance is completely erratic. They have several talented players in their squad. And Dortmund can beat any team if they perform well. On the other hand, the performance of their opponent Chelsea is not regular. If they can't bring in an experienced striker in the winter transfer window, their performance will not improve. The performance of their forward players is poor.
Dortmund might not be in good shape at the moment but if you have to compare I think they are a better team than this current Chelsea side that have been performing poorly in their recent games losing four games in a roll in all competitions. It will be really tough for Chelsea if they fail to strengthen weak and lacking positions like their attack in the January transfer far window I expect Chelsea to be active in January to revive their standing.
Just for this season alone Dortmund has not done really well in their local league but in the Champions League they have done averagely well and they have all it takes to face Chelsea by next year.
Both Dotmund and Chelsea have good chances in that draw, only because by next year things might get better or worse with any club depending on the outcome of the players that went to the World Cup . We should expect a totally new Dortmund or Chelsea by next year .
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November 15, 2022, 05:06:01 PM
If we see Bayern Munich forward line seems this interesting to watched because they were quite different this season that after Lewandowski left their striker looks had equal quality and this proven from their goals amount that besides Sadio Mane there were some of strikers who collected more than 10 goals such as Leroy Sane or Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting and this also good advantages to Bayern Munich because unlike PSG who only rely on their trio Mbappe, Neymar and Messi as goals machine but Bayern can playing with different of players on striker position so this makes Bayern strength will be more unpredictable so PSG should be aware to this statistics
One thing is sure and that is this is like a pre time final,if these two teams were in the final I think we would all enjoy this game because of the great players each team has.However I think that Bayern is slightly favored as I saw a couple of games of PSG and especially against Benfica in Benfica home they struggled a lot and barely managed to get a draw there.I am sure if Bayern was there they would have won against Benfica even in Benfica home and this for me is a good although not a 100% indicator that Bayern form is better than that of PSG right now.
That is the sad part of it all, there is always a chance that two big name clubs could face each other way before the finals, and that’s fine we are used to it and UCL always have these type of "early finals" called games, and this year it will be PSG again, the sad part for PSG fans is that they were involved in last year’s unlucky early finals matchup with Real Madrid too and lost, but to be fair real won the whole thing sot make sense.

I am guessing that PSG will probably win if nothing goes unexpected, but this is Bayern we are talking about, they could end up winning too, they are very good and they are good for 90 minutes and barely get tired, so anything could happen.
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November 15, 2022, 04:25:16 PM
The biggest problem for Chelsea or any other team is the injured players at WC 2022.  In the continuation of this cup, we will watch a tournament that also determines the fate of the qualifying matches to be played.  Imagine that the most important player of a big team is injured for a long time.  In fact, the teams that seem to be favorites now may be eliminated after the tournament.  Borussia Dortmund or Chelsea can both eliminate each other.
The champions league round of 16 fixtures is tough and difficult to predict. Chelsea facing their difficult phase at the moment with back to back losses in the premier league and been kickout of the carabao cup by manchester city. It's pure frustration for the Graham Potter, he's an average coach whose duty and mentality have been to be rank his former team, Brighton from 10th to 15th on the table, they always failed to qualify for the champions league. Chelsea will go back to maintaining their best form after the world cup.

I believe Chelsea have committed a mistake, and they are going to have to pay for it right now. It would have been better for them to bring in a coach who was more qualified. But they made a choice. The facts are, there is no doubt that the choice that was made was not one that was suitable for the situation. At this point, I think Chelsea have no option but to back him up financially if he wants to be taken seriously. As a result, Chelsea have basically been downgraded.

As far as I am aware, Potter is managing a high-class team like Chelsea for the first time in his career. As a result, these things are supposed to happen in the future. Chelsea has two options at the moment as far as I am concerned. You should give him the financial support that he needs, as well as backing him up or bringing in a competent coach.


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You're right, Duke.  Chelsea Now the team needs to be financially strong if they want to achieve success.  They clearly believe in Graham Potter's managerial skills.  They will have to strive not only with their coaching skills, but also to offer him a quality squad.  I hope Chelsea management realizes this.  They should analyze the deficiencies in the staff well and make transfers accordingly.
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November 15, 2022, 04:16:29 PM
Bayern Munich are always expected to go far in every season's CL tournament, they are a big club, and the expectations are more often than not set so high, PSG on the other hand are not so big a club in the CL just yet, they are still waiting for their elusive CL trophy and i can sense that their fans are growing frustrated as the title continues to elude them.

Having said that, PSG were knocked out in this very stage by Real Madrid last season, and it caused a bit of uproar between players and fans, and this season again they have been drawn with another big team, with the chances of qualifying firmly at 50/50. PSG have lethal goalscorers, but so do Bayern Munich, it is a somewhat even contest and very difficult to predict, both teams will score quite a lot of goals both home and away, but the winner will be decided by who can outscore the other.
Bayern munich is no longer in doubt about their ability in the Champions League in the past few seasons they have continued to be a team that puts a lot of pressure on other teams. In the draw for the last 16 round, Bayern Munich faced Psg, where this match was a place to prove the quality of the team in this season Champions League competition. Both of these teams have the same quality players, but Bayern is more superior in the match that will take place in February. Mbappe really hoped he could embrace the UCL trophy this season but he faced a big obstacle because they had to beat Bayern Munich before going to the next round. can lionel messi help psg win ucl title, it's worth the wait.
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November 15, 2022, 04:00:33 PM
Personally I don't think the Dortmund team is strong. But their performance is completely erratic. They have several talented players in their squad. And Dortmund can beat any team if they perform well. On the other hand, the performance of their opponent Chelsea is not regular. If they can't bring in an experienced striker in the winter transfer window, their performance will not improve. The performance of their forward players is poor.
Dortmund might not be in good shape at the moment but if you have to compare I think they are a better team than this current Chelsea side that have been performing poorly in their recent games losing four games in a roll in all competitions. It will be really tough for Chelsea if they fail to strengthen weak and lacking positions like their attack in the January transfer far window I expect Chelsea to be active in January to revive their standing.
Dortmund and Chelsea have had bad luck in their respective leagues but when compared to the UCL for me it will be different even though they have their own weaknesses but obviously every team wants to improve their weak position while the transfer market is soon they will definitely prepare names to be recruited in the winter to strengthen their respective teams.
Back in the Champions League, Chelsea can overcome all of this, this is my prediction, they can be better than their domestic league, so I think in this match Chelsea is more superior for me.
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November 15, 2022, 03:43:25 PM


Personally I don't think the Dortmund team is strong. But their performance is completely erratic. They have several talented players in their squad. And Dortmund can beat any team if they perform well. On the other hand, the performance of their opponent Chelsea is not regular. If they can't bring in an experienced striker in the winter transfer window, their performance will not improve. The performance of their forward players is poor.
Dortmund might not be in good shape at the moment but if you have to compare I think they are a better team than this current Chelsea side that have been performing poorly in their recent games losing four games in a roll in all competitions. It will be really tough for Chelsea if they fail to strengthen weak and lacking positions like their attack in the January transfer far window I expect Chelsea to be active in January to revive their standing.
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November 15, 2022, 02:56:19 PM
The biggest problem for Chelsea or any other team is the injured players at WC 2022.  In the continuation of this cup, we will watch a tournament that also determines the fate of the qualifying matches to be played.  Imagine that the most important player of a big team is injured for a long time.  In fact, the teams that seem to be favorites now may be eliminated after the tournament.  Borussia Dortmund or Chelsea can both eliminate each other.
The champions league round of 16 fixtures is tough and difficult to predict. Chelsea facing their difficult phase at the moment with back to back losses in the premier league and been kickout of the carabao cup by manchester city. It's pure frustration for the Graham Potter, he's an average coach whose duty and mentality have been to be rank his former team, Brighton from 10th to 15th on the table, they always failed to qualify for the champions league. Chelsea will go back to maintaining their best form after the world cup.

I believe Chelsea have committed a mistake, and they are going to have to pay for it right now. It would have been better for them to bring in a coach who was more qualified. But they made a choice. The facts are, there is no doubt that the choice that was made was not one that was suitable for the situation. At this point, I think Chelsea have no option but to back him up financially if he wants to be taken seriously. As a result, Chelsea have basically been downgraded.

As far as I am aware, Potter is managing a high-class team like Chelsea for the first time in his career. As a result, these things are supposed to happen in the future. Chelsea has two options at the moment as far as I am concerned. You should give him the financial support that he needs, as well as backing him up or bringing in a competent coach.


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November 15, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
The Champions League title has always eluded PSG, since forming its squad with world-class star players, PSG has not been able to win the most prestigious trophy in Europe. This time PSG will face Bayern Munich, in theory the squads of the two teams are almost equally strong. But mentally, Bayern Munich is superior to PSG.

After being defeated by Real Madrid last season, PSG will be reunited with a strong team capable of winning all matches in the group stage. PSG only hope in order to go further in the UCL must overcome the obstacles of Bayern Munich, PSG must be optimistic and can apply the form of the game as shown in Ligue 1. Bayern Munich can still be beaten as long as Neymar, Messi and Mbappe can do something to surprise Munich, only goals can make PSG continue to win while bringing them closer to the Trophy.
The Champions League title is something that is very difficult to predict, even though in one season we do have several superior teams. For example PSG, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Liverpool or Napoli, Real Madrid can always be seeded but no one can say for sure who will reach final and win. Even though PSG has the 3 best striker, they are also not guaranteed to advance to the final because Bayern Munich is also a strong team.

The same can be thought of all the other teams although we can really favorite some of them. In the end we just have to enjoy it because what looks good now is not necessarily winning the title. One thing is true, all teams have their own chances and success will largely depend on the performance of the players.
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November 15, 2022, 02:10:46 PM

Bayern Munich are always expected to go far in every season's CL tournament, they are a big club, and the expectations are more often than not set so high, PSG on the other hand are not so big a club in the CL just yet, they are still waiting for their elusive CL trophy and i can sense that their fans are growing frustrated as the title continues to elude them.

Having said that, PSG were knocked out in this very stage by Real Madrid last season, and it caused a bit of uproar between players and fans, and this season again they have been drawn with another big team, with the chances of qualifying firmly at 50/50. PSG have lethal goalscorers, but so do Bayern Munich, it is a somewhat even contest and very difficult to predict, both teams will score quite a lot of goals both home and away, but the winner will be decided by who can outscore the other.
The Champions League title has always eluded PSG, since forming its squad with world-class star players, PSG has not been able to win the most prestigious trophy in Europe. This time PSG will face Bayern Munich, in theory the squads of the two teams are almost equally strong. But mentally, Bayern Munich is superior to PSG.

After being defeated by Real Madrid last season, PSG will be reunited with a strong team capable of winning all matches in the group stage. PSG only hope in order to go further in the UCL must overcome the obstacles of Bayern Munich, PSG must be optimistic and can apply the form of the game as shown in Ligue 1. Bayern Munich can still be beaten as long as Neymar, Messi and Mbappe can do something to surprise Munich, only goals can make PSG continue to win while bringing them closer to the Trophy.
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November 15, 2022, 01:48:50 PM
Borussia Dortmund will face Chelsea in this round of 16, a match that will pit two clubs who are in a bad state right now. Borussia Dortmud are not as smooth as Chelsea to qualify from the group stage, they only recorded 2 wins, 3 draws and 1 defeat. While Chelsea could be better with 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat. In the domestic league, they are also not in good shape, especially Chelsea, who must be willing to be in 8th place after failing to get full points in a row. Borussia Dortmund also did the same as they failed to perform well thus throwing them to 6th position in the table in their last 2 matches.
Honestly it's very difficult to predict who will win in their 2 matches, but I want to see first the changes they make in this holiday.
One of the most random couples. On paper, Chelsea should win despite their problems, but Borussia Dortmund is so random that they can win against anyone, but they can also lose to anyone. I hope Chelsea will get Ronaldo in the winter transfer window and Chelsea will strengthen their position. Don't expect big purchases from Borussia Dortmund.

Personally I don't think the Dortmund team is strong. But their performance is completely erratic. They have several talented players in their squad. And Dortmund can beat any team if they perform well. On the other hand, the performance of their opponent Chelsea is not regular. If they can't bring in an experienced striker in the winter transfer window, their performance will not improve. The performance of their forward players is poor.

Both Dortmund and Chelsea will not be dissatisfied with the draw. Individually Chelsea seems stronger to me, but Chelsea is having a difficult season. In the Champions League they managed to beat AC Milan twice, which also says something. Dortmund also have opportunities, but Chelsea seems to me to be the favorite to advance to the next round. I think it's something like 65-35% in favor of Chelsea. Liverpool - Real Madrid and PSG - Bayern Munich are unimaginable draws. Manchester City will have watched the draw with a broad smile, as 2 major competitors will be eliminated in the next round anyway.
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November 15, 2022, 01:37:22 PM
Borussia Dortmund will face Chelsea in this round of 16, a match that will pit two clubs who are in a bad state right now. Borussia Dortmud are not as smooth as Chelsea to qualify from the group stage, they only recorded 2 wins, 3 draws and 1 defeat. While Chelsea could be better with 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat. In the domestic league, they are also not in good shape, especially Chelsea, who must be willing to be in 8th place after failing to get full points in a row. Borussia Dortmund also did the same as they failed to perform well thus throwing them to 6th position in the table in their last 2 matches.
Honestly it's very difficult to predict who will win in their 2 matches, but I want to see first the changes they make in this holiday.
One of the most random couples. On paper, Chelsea should win despite their problems, but Borussia Dortmund is so random that they can win against anyone, but they can also lose to anyone. I hope Chelsea will get Ronaldo in the winter transfer window and Chelsea will strengthen their position. Don't expect big purchases from Borussia Dortmund.

Personally I don't think the Dortmund team is strong. But their performance is completely erratic. They have several talented players in their squad. And Dortmund can beat any team if they perform well. On the other hand, the performance of their opponent Chelsea is not regular. If they can't bring in an experienced striker in the winter transfer window, their performance will not improve. The performance of their forward players is poor.
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November 15, 2022, 11:59:33 AM
One of them is Sadio Mané, the sharper Bayern München attack line, with the presence of Sadio Mané does not mean only Sadio Mané, but on the back line Bayern München has a young defender Matthijs de Ligt who was brought in last summer from Juventus, of course it will strengthen Bayern's defense. München, when hosting PSG, of course this will be a life and death battle for the two Clubs, according to my prediction there will be an extra time for the two clubs, because the strength of the two clubs is really difficult to predict, but I believe that there will be an extra time for this match...
If we see Bayern Munich forward line seems this interesting to watched because they were quite different this season that after Lewandowski left their striker looks had equal quality and this proven from their goals amount that besides Sadio Mane there were some of strikers who collected more than 10 goals such as Leroy Sane or Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting and this also good advantages to Bayern Munich because unlike PSG who only rely on their trio Mbappe, Neymar and Messi as goals machine but Bayern can playing with different of players on striker position so this makes Bayern strength will be more unpredictable so PSG should be aware to this statistics

One thing is sure and that is this is like a pre time final,if these two teams were in the final I think we would all enjoy this game because of the great players each team has.However I think that Bayern is slightly favored as I saw a couple of games of PSG and especially against Benfica in Benfica home they struggled a lot and barely managed to get a draw there.I am sure if Bayern was there they would have won against Benfica even in Benfica home and this for me is a good although not a 100% indicator that Bayern form is better than that of PSG right now.

There are still two more names besides those mentioned by @bering as Bayern Munich's goal machine so far this season, and he is Serge Gnabry. In fact, there is a young Bayern Munich midfielder who has a very good goal total too, and is not inferior to the Bayern Munich striker and that midfielder is Jamal Musiala at the age of 19.
I think this is very interesting, because if we add up the overall goals scored by Bayern Munich players so far this season in all competitions, in fact Jamal Musiala is the current Bayern Munich player who has the most goals.

It looks like Bayern Munich are looking to be a very different team this season, as they no longer rely on one player to score goals. With several players who are prolific in scoring goals, then of course it will make it difficult for opponents to close all of Bayern Munich's goal machines.
Therefore, I also agree that Bayern Munich still has a better chance of winning against PSG.
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November 15, 2022, 11:41:30 AM
Borussia Dortmund will face Chelsea in this round of 16, a match that will pit two clubs who are in a bad state right now. Borussia Dortmud are not as smooth as Chelsea to qualify from the group stage, they only recorded 2 wins, 3 draws and 1 defeat. While Chelsea could be better with 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat. In the domestic league, they are also not in good shape, especially Chelsea, who must be willing to be in 8th place after failing to get full points in a row. Borussia Dortmund also did the same as they failed to perform well thus throwing them to 6th position in the table in their last 2 matches.
Honestly it's very difficult to predict who will win in their 2 matches, but I want to see first the changes they make in this holiday.

One of the most random couples. On paper, Chelsea should win despite their problems, but Borussia Dortmund is so random that they can win against anyone, but they can also lose to anyone. I hope Chelsea will get Ronaldo in the winter transfer window and Chelsea will strengthen their position. Don't expect big purchases from Borussia Dortmund.
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November 15, 2022, 10:57:49 AM
The dominance of Bayern Munich in the champions is been overshadowed by the fact that they don't win much trophy in the competition but that doesn't disregard the fact that they're brutal when playing other teams and destroys them with lots of goals just like Manchester city. Approximately in the last 20 years they have won just 3 ( 2001, 2013, 2020) which I think put them as the third clubs with the highest trophy in this period just behind Barcelona with 4. Bayern Munich always has an advantage in the game and they're likely to win.

It is difficult to predict which team will win the Champions League title. Because there are several strong and renowned teams here. And each of them has the ability to win the title. So it is difficult to predict whether Bayern Munich will win the Champions League title. But since their squad is strong as well as stable. And their match strategy is also good. So it is expected that they will play for the title and do well. But it is not possible to say for sure.
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November 15, 2022, 10:06:34 AM
both teams will score quite a lot of goals both home and away, but the winner will be decided by who can outscore the other.

Who can defend more rather because if both clubs are capable of scoring then the defense has to step up to save the game as the less chances one teams gets, the lesser their chancs of scoring and winning the game. Bayern Munich is a very dominate side in the champions league .They can always score lost of goals even after the days of Luwadusaksi leading the team to victories. Many fans thought with his departure that it'll slow the Bayern side but that seems to not be the case as they're one or the highest scoring side this season. Bayern Munich plays more as a club then PSG as the PSG side are dependent on just three players to score goals but with Bayern, it's a collective effort.

The dominance of Bayern Munich in the champions is been overshadowed by the fact that they don't win much trophy in the competition but that doesn't disregard the fact that they're brutal when playing other teams and destroys them with lots of goals just like Manchester city. Approximately in the last 20 years they have won just 3 ( 2001, 2013, 2020) which I think put them as the third clubs with the highest trophy in this period just behind Barcelona with 4. Bayern Munich always has an advantage in the game and they're likely to win.
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November 15, 2022, 07:16:31 AM
One thing is sure and that is this is like a pre time final,if these two teams were in the final I think we would all enjoy this game because of the great players each team has.However I think that Bayern is slightly favored as I saw a couple of games of PSG and especially against Benfica in Benfica home they struggled a lot and barely managed to get a draw there.I am sure if Bayern was there they would have won against Benfica even in Benfica home and this for me is a good although not a 100% indicator that Bayern form is better than that of PSG right now.

It's like a final, and we're going to enjoy this game. I hope this fight will present beautiful games from these two teams.

To be honest, it's difficult for us to predict, considering that Bayren Munich is more consistent than PSG in the group phase.  Bayern Munich got perfect points by packing 18 points, and only conceded twice. although Bayern Munich, does not have a definite Target Man. but their players can be counted on to score goals.

on the other hand, although PSG did not get perfect points to become group winners and had quite a bit of trouble against Benfica. However, that doesn't mean they can't beat Bayern Munich in the last 16. the reason is, PSG's first leg played as the home team. I am optimistic that the game will be controlled by PSG.
these two teams are my favourites, I just hope they show their best game in the match later.
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