UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 104.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 16, 2024, 08:04:45 AM

Seeing the odds like this for one of the biggest events of next game week makes me really interested. Grin

Liverpool have all the right to be favoured in this way. Because they have played much better than Real Madrid in the Champions League so far. I assume there wouldn't be anyone to stand against that. Real Madrid are just clueless after losing to Lille and Milan like that.

If I bet on a side here, my choice would clearly be Liverpool.

However if I decide to bet on the number of goals instead, I would go for over 2.5 goals @1.57 probably.

Liverpool football team is playing well and they will play next match with full strength and they can win this match . They won last 4 matches which impact pressure on opponent team because opponent team has won only 3 matches out of 5 matches . The head to head record of Liverpool football team is not good and they could not win any match against Real Madrid football team. Real Madrid team won 4 matches out 5 matches against Liverpool team and they have confidence to play well . The stat mixed,so we can't say any team as favorite team because any team can win this match . But Real Madrid many players are unfit,So they are weak team is this match.Carvajal is injured and he was a part of team and had good role in win because he is defender and Vázquez is also injured.

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Quote from: ginsan on November 17, 2024, 04:13:22 PM

Quote from: Zaguru12 on November 17, 2024, 03:53:04 PM

It seems that Real Madrid must learn from Nottingham Forest how to beat Liverpool at Anfield because so far the matches that Liverpool have played both in the Champions League and the domestic league where only one team has managed to beat Liverpool, namely Nottingham Forest. But it will be different again because this match is a Champions League match, so Liverpool will play a better game to be able to maintain their unbeaten pace.

Real Madrid is a strong team, they are able to find gaps to score goals. But Liverpool's defense is so strong, so it takes a lot of effort for Real Madrid to be able to break into Liverpool's goal at Anfield. If you look at the statistics of their meetings where Liverpool has never won when facing Real Madrid. So can Arne Slot stop the curse, I want to see Liverpool come out as the winner in this match.

Real Madrid is quite experienced in beating Liverpool, of course this is not the first meeting between the two in the Champions League. Real Madrid have won 4 of their last 5 matches against Liverpool in the Champions League, while 1 other match ended in a draw. So I don't think Real Madrid should learn from other teams as you mean, this is too much of an underestimation of Real Madrid, which so far is the defending champion team.

You may be right about the difference in team performance this season, but things could change quickly for Real Madrid. I believe Real Madrid will improve in this match and will not suffer an easy defeat, but I am not ruling out a draw for both of them.

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UCL isn't suppose to be easy to bet on anyway, we are going to end up not being sure about which team to bet on, it is not like the league. In domestic leagues there are either two or three good teams and then rest are usually just not that good, most are basically bad. Whereas with UCL we have the best teams from all over Europe coming together, it could be champions of lower ranked nations, or could be second or third place etc of big nations and they are all dealing with each other.

So in this case, we can't really predict how this will end up with, it is not going to be easy to predict because we can see Lille beating Real Madrid type of shocks, but also we will see Bayern scoring 9 to zagreb type of obvious results from favourites as well. We never know which one it will be, we have assumptions but we can't exactly know. That's why UCL is a lot better to bet on, it gives you a chance to gamble on something a bit more close to each other between two teams.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on November 17, 2024, 03:53:04 PM

On current form Liverpool is the club to beat but they are only team still left with perfect results in the champions league right now, and beat them will take not just mere performance but a very good one. At Anfield Liverpool are usually hard to beat and it is one of the most scary ground to first but they still aren’t immortals there, they sometimes get beaten and to a middle table club, even this season they have have been beaten by Nottingham forest and as such it is definitely not an impossible task for any team most especially Real Madrid, if you look at the records between this two I think even at Anfield Madrid usually triumphs over them. So for me regardless of the form I will be going for a Madrid win

It seems that Real Madrid must learn from Nottingham Forest how to beat Liverpool at Anfield because so far the matches that Liverpool have played both in the Champions League and the domestic league where only one team has managed to beat Liverpool, namely Nottingham Forest. But it will be different again because this match is a Champions League match, so Liverpool will play a better game to be able to maintain their unbeaten pace.

Real Madrid is a strong team, they are able to find gaps to score goals. But Liverpool's defense is so strong, so it takes a lot of effort for Real Madrid to be able to break into Liverpool's goal at Anfield. If you look at the statistics of their meetings where Liverpool has never won when facing Real Madrid. So can Arne Slot stop the curse, I want to see Liverpool come out as the winner in this match.

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There is no doubt that Real Madrid is the most experienced team on the Champions League platform. However, this season Real Madrid is not in their best form. Several players in the squad faced injuries at the beginning of the season. As a result, Madrid's performance was erratic. So far, Real Madrid has not been able to perform well consistently. Madrid is not getting good performance from two important players like Mbappe and Bellingham.

On the other hand, Liverpool is the only team who has been able to win all four matches in the Champions League. In each match, we can see stable gameplay from Liverpool players. If Liverpool players can continue this consistency, then undoubtedly Liverpool is a worthy contender for the Champions League this season.

It seems like many people are starting to doubt Real Madrid in the match against Liverpool, but I think that's normal. Real Madrid have a weak side which is considered an important factor in why they are not favourites, while Liverpool who have performed well in all Champions League matches are definitely favorites to win at home. I'm not completely sure about favoring Liverpool, I think the chances of both teams are still 50:50 to win regardless of Liverpool playing at home.

Injuries to several key players might be another reason why Real Madrid's performance has been erratic so far. I agree with this point, but Real Madrid is an experienced team who is also supported by a great coach in finding the right strategy to get out of various pressures. Ancelotti managed to prove that last season, but who knows, maybe what people say could be true.

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Quote from: Awaklara on November 17, 2024, 01:58:02 PM

Liverpool does have a good chance to get 3 points from Madrid. They are playing at home and of course, they are currently in good team form. Maybe Madrid can be defeated in this match, but the situation will not be easy for Liverpool. Madrid is a team with strengths that in certain situations will be very difficult to predict. We have seen several times how Madrid changed the results of the match where at the beginning they were behind and finally managed to turn things around. Do both teams have the potential to score?

On current form Liverpool is the club to beat but they are only team still left with perfect results in the champions league right now, and beat them will take not just mere performance but a very good one. At Anfield Liverpool are usually hard to beat and it is one of the most scary ground to first but they still aren’t immortals there, they sometimes get beaten and to a middle table club, even this season they have have been beaten by Nottingham forest and as such it is definitely not an impossible task for any team most especially Real Madrid, if you look at the records between this two I think even at Anfield Madrid usually triumphs over them. So for me regardless of the form I will be going for a Madrid win

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 17, 2024, 01:59:18 PM

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I think if Liverpool wins this match and beats Real Madrid they can be the first hope to even win the Champions league title at the end of the season because of the good performance we have seen from this team so far which can make us think Slot can have the best season in Liverpool.

The group stage games have no relation (let's say 99.9%) to the playoffs and real chances for the title. Even if Liverpool wins, the assessment in a possible Real - Liverpool pair will depend on other factors. For example, in what shape the teams will approach this meeting. The playoffs will start only next year and Real has time to reveal its potential, and what does Liverpool have? It seems to me that they are already playing at their maximum.

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Quote from: Tony116 on November 17, 2024, 01:55:09 PM

With the help of the new coach Arne Slot, Liverpool is very strong this season. The top spot of the Premier League and Champions League table is occupied by Liverpool. Liverpool has been able to keep the top spot of two very competitive leagues.

At the beginning of the season, we saw some weakness in Liverpool's attacking players. However, at the moment, both Liverpool's attack and defense are very strong. Liverpool won 4-0 against strong Leverkusen in the last match of the Champions League. If Liverpool players can continue such good performance, maybe we will see Liverpool in the Champions League final this season.

The way Liverpool is performing this season is very good, and they look like a strong contender for the Champions League this season, they are currently at the top of the Premier League table ahead of Manchester City and Arsenal. Liverpool have strong defense and attack that can compete with big teams, and if they can win Real Madrid in their next Champions League match, then we can boldly say that they that they are good to go because the big teams we are seeing as title contenders of the UEFA Champions League which are Real Madrid and Manchester City are not doing well this season, they need to buckle up before they can be able to compete and the defeated teams like Liverpool and others.

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If it was the Real Madrid we know about, no one everly dares to bet against them in any condition. But the Real Madrid of today, I am not so confident that they will be able to win Slot boys. However it does not mean that they will outrightly lose. If I will advise anyone to bet on the game, they should just wait till few days or hours to the match. Many players could be injured in this international break and they will be unavailable for that great match. Let's not rush into it.

For some teams, international break make them, for some, it mares them.

Yes normally betting against Real Madrid would not be considered. They were always strong team. But now I am also not confident just like you that they will win against Slot boys. Their current performance has raised some doubts. That does not mean they will definitely lose though. Real Madrid still has chance. If you are thinking of betting wait until just before match. International break can bring injuries that affect team lineups. Some teams do well after break while others struggle. Let's wait and see what happens. It is better to be safe than sorry when making betting decisions.

I think Liverpool, Real Madrid's rival, is the team that is closer to winning right now. Because they are doing very well in the Premier League and are in a better position than Real Madrid in terms of injuries. Real Madrid has many injuries and their performance has been in decline lately. When Mbappé's selfish play is added to this, I think Liverpool will be better. Liverpool is focused on team play and tries to get results. The players are fighting for team play, not individual ones. This may be a reason why Real Madrid can be defeated.

Predicting this match can't be easy at all for anyone, and there is the chance for any team to do a miracle and win this match. Still, I think Liverpool has more chance to even beat Real Madrid because they are in better form than Real Madrid. Slot improved Liverpool a lot, and now Liverpool is ready to be a dangerous team for all teams in the Champions League, even Real Madrid.
I think if Liverpool wins this match and beats Real Madrid they can be the first hope to even win the Champions league title at the end of the season because of the good performance we have seen from this team so far which can make us think Slot can have the best season in Liverpool.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on November 17, 2024, 01:27:33 PM

Liverpool do have a very good appearance this season and it makes them much better than Man City in the domestic league while the league is running now, and if you calculate with Real Madrid it is a big question, but we also definitely remember that Liverpool have a history What is not good when competing with Real Madrid but for this chance if Real Madrid still has limited abilities and their illness has not been cured of the possibility of this match won by Liverpool.

Liverpool does have a good chance to get 3 points from Madrid. They are playing at home and of course, they are currently in good team form. Maybe Madrid can be defeated in this match, but the situation will not be easy for Liverpool. Madrid is a team with strengths that in certain situations will be very difficult to predict. We have seen several times how Madrid changed the results of the match where at the beginning they were behind and finally managed to turn things around. Do both teams have the potential to score?

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Quote from: xzone on November 17, 2024, 12:52:15 PM

Liverpool is playing really well this year, with the results they got in both the Premier League and the Champions League, they have shown that they are the favorites for this match. Real Madrid is not a team in form anyway, they have big problems in European matches.
That's why I also think that Liverpool can be the winner of this match. This year, we are facing a different Liverpool than in previous years

With the help of the new coach Arne Slot, Liverpool is very strong this season. The top spot of the Premier League and Champions League table is occupied by Liverpool. Liverpool has been able to keep the top spot of two very competitive leagues.

At the beginning of the season, we saw some weakness in Liverpool's attacking players. However, at the moment, both Liverpool's attack and defense are very strong. Liverpool won 4-0 against strong Leverkusen in the last match of the Champions League. If Liverpool players can continue such good performance, maybe we will see Liverpool in the Champions League final this season.

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Liverpool have really looked stunning this season, with only one defeat in all their matches and it cannot be denied that their defense is indeed solid. Meanwhile, Real Madrid has not been able to perform consistently so far, and contrary to Liverpool, Real Madrid has a very vulnerable defense line. I think Liverpool will be the favorites in this match, especially since they will be playing at home.

This will clearly be a tough battle for Real Madrid because they not only have to face a team that is currently in good shape, but they have to play with a very worrying back line due to the number of injured players.

Looking at Liverpool's current abilities, there is great hope for them to beat Real Madrid who are experiencing a crisis of injured players, especially for the defense. Liverpool have also performed consistently and the contribution of the front line has also been quite good in scoring goals in every match they have played this season. Playing at Anfield will also provide an advantage for Liverpool because they do have much greater motivation to beat Real Madrid.

Ancelotti must be very aware that playing at Liverpool's home ground with the condition of the players they currently have will be difficult. The other option would be to play it safe to get a point and perhaps the strategy would be much more defensive and rely on counter-attacks.

I know that Real Madrid have gone through a lot of troubles this season, loosing some key players to injury, loosing some important matches also, but I think they are not as bad as loosing to a team like Liverpool despite the fact that Liverpool are in a hell of good form in the premier League and also in the champions league too. For me, Real Madrid will also be the favourite because they have been able to manage the situation and they are a lot more better than they were before all of these issues started to becloud the team and I must commend Carlo Ancelotti for the excellent job he is doing at the club despite all that has happened so far.

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From my point of view I would say that it's a 50/50 chance for both Real Madrid and Liverpool on this match due to the little challenge Madrid is facing currently, if not I would have put my full confidence on Real Madrid that they would win the match. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Real Madrid snd up winning Liverpool, but I don't know how that will happen.

Liverpool will face Real Madrid at their home ground, so in theory this will be advantageous for Liverpool. Well I think besides the reason that Real Madrid is not in good enough condition, the host status held by Liverpool can also be one reason why people say Liverpool has a greater chance of winning the match. Yes I know that Real Madrid is a team with a good mentality, even though they have to play at their opponent's home ground. However, Liverpool will also definitely learn a lot from how AC Milan beat Real Madrid in the previous match, and at that time AC Milan successfully silenced Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu which we know is very difficult to win there.

Liverpool is playing really well this year, with the results they got in both the Premier League and the Champions League, they have shown that they are the favorites for this match. Real Madrid is not a team in form anyway, they have big problems in European matches.
That's why I also think that Liverpool can be the winner of this match. This year, we are facing a different Liverpool than in previous years

Liverpool do have a very good appearance this season and it makes them much better than Man City in the domestic league while the league is running now, and if you calculate with Real Madrid it is a big question, but we also definitely remember that Liverpool have a history What is not good when competing with Real Madrid but for this chance if Real Madrid still has limited abilities and their illness has not been cured of the possibility of this match won by Liverpool.

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Real Madrid are still favorites in the Champions League even though their performance this season is not very good. I know Real Madrid is a good team to hope to come back and improve their performance, so things will change so quickly for them. Real Madrid has lost 6 points from 4 matches, while they still have 4 matches that they can all win. The match against Liverpool is certainly very tough, but that doesn't mean Real Madrid will fail to win it.

If in the end Real Madrid loses this match, it will be their third defeat this season in the Champions League. Everything was getting heavier and more chaotic, but I didn't expect the defeat to become a reality.

It is hard to expect Real Madrid to be at their best every season, last season was a success for them and this time they have problems with injuries and it has mostly affected their defense. After they lost Carvajal it was clear that this would be a big problem for Real, after another injury to Courtois it got even worse and after an injury to Militao that kept him out for the rest of the season it got even worse. It is obvious that now the weakest line for Real is the defense and this may not allow them to achieve anything significant this season.

I don’t know if they’ve been a season that Real Madrid lost most of their top players to injury and didn’t do well that season? This has been a very big problem for Real Madrid and it’s really showing in their games of recent. When a team is good at attacking and their defense is very weak, such team tends to lose everything they’ve fought for once their opponent gets to know that defense is their weak point and they immediately penetrate through there and win their games. We can’t say much to a conclusion about Real Madrid issue now, they look very good and promising despite all this setback they have. I just feel they’re going to get a plan B that will push them through the season and not just give up after this players are out injured for the whole season. They still have a lot of time to decide and change things for themselves if they can quickly act upon and strategize again on what they have now.

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It is hard to expect Real Madrid to be at their best every season, last season was a success for them and this time they have problems with injuries and it has mostly affected their defense. After they lost Carvajal it was clear that this would be a big problem for Real, after another injury to Courtois it got even worse and after an injury to Militao that kept him out for the rest of the season it got even worse. It is obvious that now the weakest line for Real is the defense and this may not allow them to achieve anything significant this season.

I don't care how many of Real Madrid's main players are feared to miss the match against Liverpool - it's just that I'm worried that Liverpool failed to make good use of the situation. A defeat against Real Madrid probably won't have much of an impact on Liverpool's chances of progressing to the last 16 - but I do hope Liverpool can secure a home win against Madrid this season.

So far Arne Slot and Liverpool's performance has convinced me enough to expect a lot - of course. Leading the Champions League and Premier League standings is a great thing to maintain - but I admit that it will be difficult when the pressure in each game increases. Real Madrid can never be underestimated despite losing several key players - they have been too good in the Champions League almost every season, but I hope this is not the season for them.

I agree about that, but I personally believe that Liverpool will really maximize that moment to be able to beat Real Madrid. Because after all, Liverpool have been defeated several times by Real Madrid in the Champions League including in the final match. Thus, it has become a target for Arne Slot to make Liverpool to successfully defeat Real Madrid, because then it will also make Liverpool remain strong to be at the top of the Champion League standings this season which will certainly be impressive. But about Real Madrid's defense, with events happening like this, it is appropriate for Real Madrid to also focus on bringing in more luxury players for their defense, not only focusing on multiplying luxury players in their attack.

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From my point of view I would say that it's a 50/50 chance for both Real Madrid and Liverpool on this match due to the little challenge Madrid is facing currently, if not I would have put my full confidence on Real Madrid that they would win the match. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Real Madrid snd up winning Liverpool, but I don't know how that will happen.

I even still have doubts about Real Madrid in terms of winning the match at Liverpool's home because the conditions of the two teams at the moment are very different so I am even more convinced that Liverpool has the potential to win if Liverpool is able to play better at their home base. But if Real Madrid is able to match Liverpool's strength in the match, of course they can get a draw because after all, Real Madrid is an opponent that every team must be wary of when competing in the Champions League.

I doubted Madrid to win with their current form, a draw would be a great achievement. They missed too many important players. Two of them were (Militao and Rodrygo). So, they have no complete squad atm. However, a miracle can help them to get three points, and just hope Liverpool to play badly.

It seems to me BTTS most likely to happen, and i take it as my choice in this game.

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Quote from: xzone on November 17, 2024, 12:52:15 PM

Liverpool is playing really well this year, with the results they got in both the Premier League and the Champions League, they have shown that they are the favorites for this match. Real Madrid is not a team in form anyway, they have big problems in European matches.
That's why I also think that Liverpool can be the winner of this match. This year, we are facing a different Liverpool than in previous years

I'm yet to decide what is going to happen in the end of this tournament. Liverpool has tried and they deserve the recognition they are getting right now but I think we are still in the early stage of the league more like group stage because right after this, there will be some teams that are going to qualify for the round of 16 and some teams in between will play off to also qualify for knockout stage. It's this knockout the league becomes tough as players like Liverpool can miss out if they make any mistake then.

There is nothing stopping Liverpool but i we have bigger other teams that are going to qualify to wherever Liverpool thinks they are going. I'm still expecting Manchester City, Bayern and Barcelona for some surprise packages, not sure if they are done yet. If really you can make it to the round of 16 without any hindrance, I believe there is still big challenges Liverpool will face from other teams possibly.

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Liverpool is playing really well this year, with the results they got in both the Premier League and the Champions League, they have shown that they are the favorites for this match. Real Madrid is not a team in form anyway, they have big problems in European matches.
That's why I also think that Liverpool can be the winner of this match. This year, we are facing a different Liverpool than in previous years

I tend to agree with your analysis regarding the Liverpool vs Real Madrid match, but we never know what the final result of the match will be. Real Madrid is a different team and sometimes they can play so well in big matches because of prestige, they can play badly in easy matches because they underestimate their opponents. The big match against Liverpool is certainly difficult for both teams, some will definitely consider a draw, but others will definitely want their favorite team to win.

Expecting Liverpool to win is not a mistake, nor is it a mistake if fans hope Real Madrid wins. The performance of the two teams will definitely be compared and the probabilities may still change before kickoff. I believe Liverpool can overcome Real Madrid at Anfield, it would be a fantastic win for Arne Slot.

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Quote from: pusaka on November 17, 2024, 07:33:26 AM

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From my point of view I would say that it's a 50/50 chance for both Real Madrid and Liverpool on this match due to the little challenge Madrid is facing currently, if not I would have put my full confidence on Real Madrid that they would win the match. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Real Madrid snd up winning Liverpool, but I don't know how that will happen.

Liverpool will face Real Madrid at their home ground, so in theory this will be advantageous for Liverpool. Well I think besides the reason that Real Madrid is not in good enough condition, the host status held by Liverpool can also be one reason why people say Liverpool has a greater chance of winning the match. Yes I know that Real Madrid is a team with a good mentality, even though they have to play at their opponent's home ground. However, Liverpool will also definitely learn a lot from how AC Milan beat Real Madrid in the previous match, and at that time AC Milan successfully silenced Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu which we know is very difficult to win there.

Liverpool is playing really well this year, with the results they got in both the Premier League and the Champions League, they have shown that they are the favorites for this match. Real Madrid is not a team in form anyway, they have big problems in European matches.
That's why I also think that Liverpool can be the winner of this match. This year, we are facing a different Liverpool than in previous years

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Quote from: lizarder on November 17, 2024, 10:13:30 AM

Looking at Liverpool's current abilities, there is great hope for them to beat Real Madrid who are experiencing a crisis of injured players, especially for the defense. Liverpool have also performed consistently and the contribution of the front line has also been quite good in scoring goals in every match they have played this season. Playing at Anfield will also provide an advantage for Liverpool because they do have much greater motivation to beat Real Madrid.

Ancelotti must be very aware that playing at Liverpool's home ground with the condition of the players they currently have will be difficult. The other option would be to play it safe to get a point and perhaps the strategy would be much more defensive and rely on counter-attacks.

Yea you're right but the thing is sometimes these teams are unpredictable, if you look at history I think real Madrid has it but there current performance may be a stumbling block for them to continue perfecting that history that have existed between them, I don't succumb to the notion of this injury thats rocking real Madrid as the cause of their problem, though their defense is bad which you have mentioned already but I think it's the duty of Carlo anceloti as the manager to do justice to that effect, the reoccurring inconsistent performance of real Madrid is very worrisome, this isn't a joke again, i have said it before that with the level of players in Real Madrid, i think the effect of injury shouldn't be noticed much in the team.

Liverpool performance this season suppass that of their visiting opponent which is real Madrid and question is how are they going to manage this situation, though I have said earlier that surprises may come but let's come to reality which is the real thing, I think carlo anceloti should start now to do the needful before that day if not the disaster may go out of hand that day, I know Liverpool attacking force, for me anceloti and his present illed performed team shouldn't be taking them for a play.

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