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August 02, 2024, 03:26:15 AM
I agree with you guys who think Manchester City's being favoured more than Real Madrid for the CL trophy is ridiculous. It is like 3.25 to 4.00 for the moment.  Smiley

I'm not intending to disrespect the Manchester club of course. They are very strong and have a wonderful coach like Guardiola also. But still they are far away from the point Real Madrid are at in this competition.

Real Madrid are dominating the CL. We are talking about a 15-time champion... I'm expecting a back-to-back title from them already. They are like an ecole here and now they have Mbappe too.  Grin
I can see it that Manchester City has 24% probability and this is much higher than Real Madrid which only have 19% probability but this is only a prediction because it could be missed and if we see from the squad i think whether it Real Madrid and Manchester City is equal but indeed if we see from the achievement Manchester City so far only gets 1 titles and compared to Real Madrid which have 15 titles obviously Real Madrid is much better than Manchester City

But i do not understand how the bookmakers determine the favourite teams for each season because in the last several season they always putting Manchester City into first favourite although in fact Real Madrid is the most successfull team in this competition besides that this season Real Madrid has got Mbappe from PSG so technically they are much stronger than last season because we all know Mbappe is world class player and he had ambition want to gets the trophy from this competition

Real Madrid can win champion league title 6 times since 2014 so clearly they are really dominate this competition so they really deserved to called as the first favourite of this competition for next season and for Manchester City so far they only bought one player from Girona Savinho even for pre season matches Manchester City still hard struggling to find their shape and so far Manchester City has poor records because they still unable to in form and they also haven't gets the winning results from 3 latest matches
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August 02, 2024, 02:49:01 AM
When the Champions League rounds start and Manchester City have a bad run of form then the odds will change as the match goes on if you look now the bookies are clearly favoring Pep Guardiola's team although we can't deny that Real Madrid are more deserving.

Real Madrid have signed a lot of important players in this transfer window and most importantly Mbappe has had an impact, maybe Endrick will be more on the bench.

The league hasn't started yet, especially for the Champions League so the real game is still unknown although we know Manchester City and Real Madrid will dominate in their respective leagues, it could be that they compete again in the UCL.
I think Mbappe will have a big influence on Real Madrid because it is clear that he is a talented player and by joining Real Madrid this is certainly a good opportunity for him to prove that he has a brilliant talent that must be shown. In addition, I think Mbappe will contribute well, because he is surrounded by quality players who are clearly also under the guidance of a coach who is no longer in doubt.

I still think that Real Madrid and Manchester City will compete fiercely in the Champions League, and I think they have their own big challenges when they are in one match, where Real Madrid is a tough opponent for Manchester City and vice versa with Manchester City is a tough opponent for Real Madrid. but not only them, of course there are other teams that will definitely compete fiercely because they want the Champions League Trophy. although it is certain that Real Madrid has a great opportunity to dominate the Champions League again, it does not mean that they will easily pass everything just like that.
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August 02, 2024, 02:05:04 AM
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I think it was a bad match for Fenerbahçe. The team started the match very badly and conceded one goal. If Lugano had been able to take control, it could have been a different score. Jose Mourinho showed his difference. He brought Fenerbahçe together with his interventions. That's why Fenerbahçe pulled themselves together later and managed to win the match 2-1. I think it was a match that Fenerbahçe should have won very easily, but they had a hard time. They may not be so lucky against Lille.

I think I would be much more careful about any Mourinho judgments so early on. He hasn't been a great coach recently. Beating Lugano is not like it was a masterpiece by Mourinho who put the team together in a perfect way. Fenerbahce should beat Lugano no matter what the name of the coach is. The truth is that Lugano controlled most parts of the game both at home and away from home. It is the Mourinho way of playing football that I don't like. Results are always close because he doesn't like offensive football. But at some point he will once again pay the bill for that style.

Roma was the same problem, he forced a team with great attacking potential to play more defensively. Nobody understood why.
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August 02, 2024, 01:46:11 AM
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Fenerbahce is now coached by Mourinho, of course there will be an increase in quality in his squad. Mourinho will try to do something that was never imagined before, he will make Fenerbahce succeed in beating Lille to maintain their chances of playing in the Champions League. Mourinho will immediately use an attacking strategy at the start of the match, he will direct his troops to surround Lille players in their defensive area. A first-half lead is Mourinho target and he will focus more on defense to secure the win. Lille also do not want to give up so easily, but Fenerbahce under Mourinho will continue to dominate them.
In the end, Fenerbache succeeded in beating Lugano 6-4 on aggregate. The second leg was fierce where Lugano took the lead in the first half, while Fenerbache turned things around in the second half and ended the match with a score of 2-1. Next, Fenerbache will face Lille, which is basically a team that has the potential to qualify for the group stage, but Mourinho might have a good plan for that match too.

The first leg will be played in the first week of August at the Hainaut Stadium or at Lille's home ground. Fenerbache certainly doesn't have much of an advantage in the first leg because they play at their opponent's home ground, but if they want to play in the Champions League then Mourinho has to step on the gas first by winning the first leg against Lille.
Lugano football team lose the match against Fenerbahçe SK foot team. Both teams were my favorite teams but I supported to Fenerbahçe SK team and that team won the match by 2-1 . The team combination was perfect and we saw excellent competition in this match . Players of Fenerbahçe SK team looked in good body language due to which they lose the opponent team. I like that kind of match in which both teams are of same strength and stamina but we saw Fenerbahçe SK practice was better than Lugano team and due to which they won the match easily. Szymanski did second goal for the team and after his goal match was decided because opponent team did no goal after that and we saw good match.
I think it was a bad match for Fenerbahçe. The team started the match very badly and conceded one goal. If Lugano had been able to take control, it could have been a different score. Jose Mourinho showed his difference. He brought Fenerbahçe together with his interventions. That's why Fenerbahçe pulled themselves together later and managed to win the match 2-1. I think it was a match that Fenerbahçe should have won very easily, but they had a hard time. They may not be so lucky against Lille.
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August 02, 2024, 01:29:32 AM
You cannot blame it completely on Tottenham, because of it actually was then why is it that at Bayern Munich where he's got all the chances and even a good squad that has got the records, he couldn't win even a lesser trophy from their domestic league even if it's not the champions League. With kompany in Bayern Munich, let's hope it only gets better and this season they will be able to get something better from that which they did got last season.kane should be a great part of the success story of komapany been anticipated at Bayern Munich.
If we want to be more polite we can say that Kane was unlucky and that was in relation to both when he played at Tottenham and Bayern Munich. But if you look at his contribution, he played well and even became the top scorer at Tottenham and Bayern Munich. Kompany will be tested because he has to restore the dominance of the best form of play at Bayern Munich because previously they failed last season and did not get any trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga should not be difficult for Kompany because there are only a few clubs that can compete with them.

But if we talk about the Champions League, it is difficult, besides having to have experienced players, the coach is also very decisive and I doubt Kompany will be able to bring Bayern Munich to compete with other teams until the semifinals. Not to underestimate Kompany's skills, but I see that he does not have the opportunity for that now because there are many other coaches who are much more experienced.
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August 02, 2024, 12:45:44 AM
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The recruitment of Mourinho as coach is nothing more than an effort to restore Fenerbache performance in the domestic league which has always been dominated by Galatasaray, with the experience that Mourinho has so far, of course they hope that he will be able to restore Fenerbache glory in Super Lig , while in the Champions League of course not will be a burden for Mourinho even though he is a very experienced coach, because for now the Champions League is not a target that Mourinho must fulfill, I think Fenerbache management is also aware of the quality and depth of their squad which is currently not capable and it is difficult to go far in the champions league in mourinho first season coaching fenerbache.
I agree with your statement, so far Fenerbahce has always lost to Galatasaray in the domestic league, Mourinho's recruitment is expected to improve Fenerbahce performance to return to its best form and break Galatasaray dominance. Mourinho who is very experienced in handling clubs, will certainly get Fenerbahce out of the problems it is currently facing. Regarding the Champions League trophy, it is clearly not his target because it is very difficult to compete with other teams that are much stronger.

Competition in the Super Lig is their main target at the moment, but qualifying for the Champions League can also boost the players' confidence because they get the opportunity to play in Europe's elite competition. A team like Fenerbahce still has difficulty competing with other strong teams such as Manchester City, Real Madrid and Liverpool. Qualifying for the Champions League is enough for them, but hopes of winning the title are still very far away.
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August 02, 2024, 12:32:11 AM
Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.

Because the load is a question mark, then for me it is not necessarily true regarding Harry Kane who has never won a title. What I mean is not because of Tottenham Hotspur, Kane failed to win the championship trophy. Kane's curse will end with Bayern Munich even though last season as his first season he still couldn't lift the trophy.

Last season before Vincent Kompany was appointed as head coach, Kane and his friends were unlucky, both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League.
Luck will be on their side next season or the 2024/2025 season to take back the Bundesliga title from Bayer Leverkusen even though some people doubt Vincent Kompany.
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August 01, 2024, 11:56:14 PM
I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole
Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.

Really? Don't you remember when Tottenham played in the UCL final? I think you're wrong about that. Also, there's no point in blaming Kane for Tottenham's poor form. After all, the main problem is with the club itself. It doesn't make sense to blame Kane for not being able to lift a trophy.

In fact, Tottenham have rarely, if ever, won a trophy in modern football, even before Kane joined in 2013-14. It's also strange that Kane is called cursed, even though he has scored so many goals for his club. And lastly, let's see how Kane is going to perform in the upcoming season in the UCL.  

I hope Bayern will lucky enough.



Also, i provide you a proof that Tottenham almost never won a trophy in modern football. It's not Kane's fault.



Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/tottenham-hotspur/erfolge/verein/148
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August 01, 2024, 10:19:44 PM
I don’t see the bookies favoring any team here if you ask me, the two clubs both Manchester city and Real Madrid are the best teams in Europe currently, and they deserve the top spot. You see this odds sometimes are not just a thing that anybody will sum up most of the time they usually involve computer calculations for things involving each squad depth, and seriously Manchester city have that squad to go all ahead.
Recent seasons, Real Madrid won many Champions League title and Manchester City is one of few teams that won Champions League title by beating Real Madrid a long the way to final match and trophy.

It makes sense for bookies to give best odds to Real Madrid, the current champions, and Manchester City, the champions two seasons ago, and they are both still very strong and competitive. In a new season, they will continue to play with high quality and with their experience in Champions League, they will be able to go very far there.

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As for Real Madrid no one can deny their position, there are always the team to beat before you get to anything like winning the champions league, even Pep Guardiola once said that they are the favorites as long as they have not been knocked out, when Manchester city won it, it was them that they defeated, same with Chelsea year of triumph too.
Real Madrid in the last ten years, usually go very far in Champions League and if any team wan to go to semi final, final matches, they will need to beat Real Madrid. Real Madrid can not win Champions League in all seasons but they are holding the record and their players have natural confidence when playing in Champions League. By many factors, tradition, experience, confidence and quality of players and coach, they are one of hardest team to be beaten in Champions League.
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August 01, 2024, 07:23:36 PM
Where do you see that the bookies favor Guardiola's men? do you have an eagle eye to see it? I really want to see the assessment of how the bookie evaluates a team to consider the odds that will be given to one team.

I rather agree that Manchester City and Real Madrid still cannot be determined who will get the victory in the coming season, and who is the best who will get the champion, although Real Madrid brings in very good and potential players not necessarily have free space in the UCL, something unexpected can happen on the field without us predicting at the beginning.

I don’t see the bookies favoring any team here if you ask me, the two clubs both Manchester city and Real Madrid are the best teams in Europe currently, and they deserve the top spot. You see this odds sometimes are not just a thing that anybody will sum up most of the time they usually involve computer calculations for things involving each squad depth, and seriously Manchester city have that squad to go all ahead.

As for Real Madrid no one can deny their position, there are always the team to beat before you get to anything like winning the champions league, even Pep Guardiola once said that they are the favorites as long as they have not been knocked out, when Manchester city won it, it was them that they defeated, same with Chelsea year of triumph too.
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August 01, 2024, 07:12:58 PM
Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.
You cannot blame it completely on Tottenham, because of it actually was then why is it that at Bayern Munich where he's got all the chances and even a good squad that has got the records, he couldn't win even a lesser trophy from their domestic league even if it's not the champions League. With kompany in Bayern Munich, let's hope it only gets better and this season they will be able to get something better from that which they did got last season.kane should be a great part of the success story of komapany been anticipated at Bayern Munich.
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August 01, 2024, 07:07:10 PM
I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole
Not saying the guy us cursed actually... don't really know what's wrong with your sense of humor but t o be honest the guy is really battling with badlucks not himself actually but I think his choice of clubs , with his goals just like mbappe he ought to have won at least one world best but that won't really matter because  he has no qualified trifles apart from being a goal scorer just like  lewandowski, I really want him to have atleast 1 actually... he already tried and deserves one  Smiley
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August 01, 2024, 07:06:55 PM
The Bayern Munich team has made some good signing and the arrival of the new coach should be able to fix the issues in the team and bring the team back to winning trophies even as they hope to get back to the position they belong in the league.

The new coach would be able to do that? Are hundred percent convinced already that Vincent Kompany would win the Bundesliga League Competition next season?

Not totally convinced with Vincent Kompany winning the league next season since he's just getting to work with the players and he's got a lot to do which should take him some couple of weeks depending on the teams his club is going to face but looking at the current squad in the team right now and with Kane still very active in terms of scoring goals I think it's going to be a battle between Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen and Stuttgart next season but based on the performance of Leverkusen last season I think Bayern Munich won't find it easy to take over but with good performance they can lift the trophy again.
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August 01, 2024, 06:58:43 PM
The Bayern Munich team has made some good signing and the arrival of the new coach should be able to fix the issues in the team and bring the team back to winning trophies even as they hope to get back to the position they belong in the league.

The new coach would be able to do that? Are hundred percent convinced already that Vincent Kompany would win the Bundesliga League Competition next season?
I'm not convinced anyways, he'll have to show workings. I do not think Vincent Kompany is a upgrade for the former manager Thomas Tuchel but well, we'll see what happens at the end of season. In my own opinion, Xabi Alonso has what it takes to win the Bundesliga League Competition back again this season.
He has brought in good signatures again so far and they have just been great during pre-season games already. I'm not so bothered with what they can do in the Bundesliga League Competition but what they can do in the Champions League Competition.

Tough call ahead, as much I want Harry Kane to win the Bundesliga League Competition. I feel like it'll be more difficult than it was last season.
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August 01, 2024, 06:42:55 PM
I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole
Harry Kane always manages to maintain the best quality when it comes to scoring goals so there is nothing wrong with his performance. In fact, he managed to become the top scorer, of course that was quite a special achievement for him because he was a player who had just joined Bayern Munich.

However, the big problem was that he failed to bring the Bundesliga trophy to the fans and that was not entirely his fault. This season, of course, the big hope is to win a prestigious trophy, whether in the domestic league or Champions League.
The presence of Kompany will certainly bring new changes to Bayern Munich's journey this season.

The performance of Harry Kane has been brilliant since leaving Tottenham to join Bayern Munich last season and his goal scoring abilities kept increasing even as he took it all by himself by becoming the highest goal scorer last season but right now I think he has faced a lot of bad luck since he has only achieved individual awards without trophies to show for his great performances and last season his team went trophyless upon his arrival even though he was still a major contributor to the team's success despite them not winning a single trophy last season.

The new season will soon begin, the Bayern Munich team has made some good signing and the arrival of the new coach should be able to fix the issues in the team and bring the team back to winning trophies even as they hope to get back to the position they belong in the league.
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August 01, 2024, 06:21:23 PM
I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole
Harry Kane always manages to maintain the best quality when it comes to scoring goals so there is nothing wrong with his performance. In fact, he managed to become the top scorer, of course that was quite a special achievement for him because he was a player who had just joined Bayern Munich.

However, the big problem was that he failed to bring the Bundesliga trophy to the fans and that was not entirely his fault. This season, of course, the big hope is to win a prestigious trophy, whether in the domestic league or Champions League.
The presence of Kompany will certainly bring new changes to Bayern Munich's journey this season.
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August 01, 2024, 06:09:49 PM
I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole
Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.
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August 01, 2024, 05:29:09 PM

Last season showed that Bayern can perform inconsistently. Yes, last season was a phenomenon in their league, but Bayern themselves didn't perform at their best in the Champions League either. In my opinion Bayern are starting to deflate. Let's see how they start the season, if it's obvious that they are not playing confidently, then I think it will be more than obvious
They did tried their best FR just that luck is always against Harry Tongue that was a joke actually but they did tried their best let's just say luck wasn't on their side unlike Dortmund who made that far with not too much effort(although they played well).
Let's see what this season will hold for this teams, it seems everyone his really cooking something for the UCL let's wait and see (I bey everyteam is looking for a squad to counter RM  Grin).

I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole
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August 01, 2024, 05:25:28 PM
I agree with you guys who think Manchester City's being favoured more than Real Madrid for the CL trophy is ridiculous. It is like 3.25 to 4.00 for the moment.  Smiley

I'm not intending to disrespect the Manchester club of course. They are very strong and have a wonderful coach like Guardiola also. But still they are far away from the point Real Madrid are at in this competition.

Real Madrid are dominating the CL. We are talking about a 15-time champion... I'm expecting a back-to-back title from them already. They are like an ecole here and now they have Mbappe too.  Grin
When the Champions League rounds start and Manchester City have a bad run of form then the odds will change as the match goes on if you look now the bookies are clearly favoring Pep Guardiola's team although we can't deny that Real Madrid are more deserving.

Real Madrid have signed a lot of important players in this transfer window and most importantly Mbappe has had an impact, maybe Endrick will be more on the bench.

The league hasn't started yet, especially for the Champions League so the real game is still unknown although we know Manchester City and Real Madrid will dominate in their respective leagues, it could be that they compete again in the UCL.
Where do you see that the bookies favor Guardiola's men? do you have an eagle eye to see it? I really want to see the assessment of how the bookie evaluates a team to consider the odds that will be given to one team.

I rather agree that Manchester City and Real Madrid still cannot be determined who will get the victory in the coming season, and who is the best who will get the champion, although Real Madrid brings in very good and potential players not necessarily have free space in the UCL, something unexpected can happen on the field without us predicting at the beginning.
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August 01, 2024, 05:23:29 PM
Odds from betting bookies cannot be held accurately because they may change with a team's performance after two matches have been played. Indeed, in the last two seasons there has always been a favorite team with odds that are quite favorable, but it will all end in an uncertain way. Of course, these two teams are always favorites to reach the final and become champions, but if there are many surprises that occur during the round then these two teams will experience big difficulties.
Bookies are also managed and held by humans who cannot predict the future so that when there are mistakes and inaccuracies in their predictions for a team or match, it is also very natural so that every gambler should not rely too much on the odds from bookies because the bookies are also people who make money through the services they open to the public. Real Madrid and Manchester City will actually still be very good teams next season by trying to face every important match and win it so that changes and surprises will definitely be seen again, especially next season a new format will also be implemented in the Champions League.
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