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January 03, 2025, 01:49:20 PM
Manchester City and Barcelona crises are not so much different. Do not be fooled by the UCL standings as of now. Let's look at the current form even in the domestic leagues. Do you think Barcelona that at one point had a 9 point league in la liga but are now 2 points behind Atlético Madrid with a game in hand can Reach the UCL final? Dude, they have just one win in their last 6 la liga matches  Grin
Of course Barcelona has been playing very poorly lately, but I think they can overcome this in time. Barcelona is a team that has played very successful matches. We remember how they won against Real Madrid. So I think they can always be successful. They may have played badly in recent matches, but that doesn't mean they will always play badly.
They beat Real Madrid, and then what? They won a trophy?
This is exactly the problem with Barcelona in La Liga. The lads and fans maybe thought that it was all over after beat their Arch-rivals, not knowing they weren't even past halfway of the season. Look where they are today.

Champion's League is not won by one game. They have to perform all the way to the final whistle of the finals. IMO, I don't see them reaching even the finals.
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January 03, 2025, 01:39:16 PM
Yes, the failure should be a lesson and as you said in the Jurgen Klopp era, Liverpool were only consistent at the beginning and after the middle in all competitions their performance declined. But now Liverpool with Arne Slot whose performance has continued to improve so far and continues to be a very aggressive opponent for the opposing team, but in the UCL anything can happen and there are also many surprises because the UCL is a very prestigious league that is a mainstay and is prioritized for teams in their respective leagues. Real Madrid remains a strong competitor for other favorite teams, and what we must know is that Real Madrid's characteristic in the UCL is that they can always make a comeback and always qualify from round to round even to the final.
Actually we also can't claim that under Arne Slot they won't experience a decline, because they are not at the end of the season and now they are not even halfway through their journey this season, so we can't rush to judge.
I don't mean to underestimate Arne Slot, because after all now it can't be denied that he gave something good to Liverpool. Well, his next job is to maintain what he has created so far, don't let him decline at the end of the season. Because that's not easy to do, especially if they have problems, such as a storm of injuries and so on.
We are yet to enter the heat of the season. Arne is really doing a nice job but my fear is to what extent will this last. The champions league is not like the regular domestic League where a team can dominate the league from start to finish without any competitive contender.

The effort of  Arne Slot so far is commendable. Holding on to a clean record in the UCL has a lot to speak about his potential and ability to contend for the title. But I know for sure the likes of Madrid and Athletico will be a big stopper on their way to the trophy. This season will obviously see a new phase of the competition where predicting the winner becomes even more difficult.
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January 03, 2025, 01:16:35 PM
Aston Villa played pretty well and he was in the top 5 Champions League and the match standings he would face in the 7th match was Monaco, my personal view was not a team that could be underestimated even though we saw that Monaco was at the lower level With Aston Villa but Monaco also has the ability to reverse unexpected situations in several big matches, but in the match in the match is to qualify for the next round, for a safer position in staring at the future is to be in the top 8 and Aston Villa is very possible out in the top 8 of the standings.
Aston Villa only needs to win in the last 2 matches to stay in the top 8. After a long break, Aston Villa will face Monaco, who have the ability to change the outcome of the match at any time. The 7th and 8th matches of the Champions League are important for every team and this match can be called a big match. Monaco has the ability to perform well in big matches and defeat the opposing team. However, their recent form is a bit of a cause for concern. They have suffered two consecutive defeats, which has pushed them towards struggle. It is natural for their team and performance to change after a long break. Although Aston Villa is ahead in terms of recent form and points, Monaco has the ability to fight with them and win and I believe they can do it.
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January 03, 2025, 01:09:35 PM
Matchday 7 as the opening match of 2025 begins with Monaco against Aston Villa and it should be remembered that Aston Villa is currently safe enough to qualify but because there is still a chance of being eliminated so they need to conquer Monaco at home. It will not be easy but I am optimistic that Aston Villa in the Champions League has quite a lot of motivation and has repeatedly shown tight competition against giant teams only losing 1x in the last 6 matches. On the other hand Monaco the final result, whether they lose or win will still be in the play-off zone.

There are almost 20 days until this match. It is not easy to predict this match right now, Aston Villa will play 4 more matches during this time. Both the FA Cup match and the Arsenal match will be during this time and this may cause Aston Villa players to get tired.
Their performance in the Champions League has been quite good so I think they will win this match as well. The opponent is not very strong and Aston Villa will do their best to stay in the top ranks Smiley

No matter the distance of days it will take to the match, it is very obvious that Aston Villa will definitely win against Monaco in the game, even though it is a home game for Monaco, but we all know that Aston Villa will try their best to have more points even though they know no matter what they will be among the teams that will be in the round of 16, and we all know that Aston Villa's performance is far better than Monaco's.

Although Monaco might try to put in more effort as it is a home game for them, I still do not have more hope in them that they will be able to win Aston Villa in the game. Although it is just as you said, a bit of pressure will be mounted on Aston Villa due to the games that they will play before they play against Monaco, especially that of Arsenal, which will be just a 3-day interval to the game, but I think if they lost the game, then that will make them put more effort into winning against Monaco.
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January 03, 2025, 12:59:13 PM
Real Madrid has its own way of recruiting players, and they are very smart about it. Because, they are aware that Real Madrid is the definition of "TOP brand equity". Just imagine, a player can willingly go to Real Madrid for free and postpone the contract extension with the old club. Just look at what is currently circulating with player Trent Alexander-Arnold, Real Madrid is reportedly very interested in the player because this is to strengthen Real Madrid's defense line.
That is only the goal of Trent Alexander-Arnold himself who really wants to go to Real Madrid because he really wants to carve out his career in the Real Madrid team other than in the Liverpool team like now. So we also can't assume all other players are like that because every player does have a certain goal during their career in a team even though every player knows that Real Madrid is a good team to defend. And if Trent Alexander-Arnold can dock at the Real Madrid team, of course Real Madrid's defense condition can be saved a little.
is Trent having a bad time at Liverpool? and is real Madrid currently in a better position in whatever way you look at it than Liverpool? if he chooses to go to real Madrid, it is just because he likes the club and wishes to play for them and never because either the two clubs are worse than themselves. Trent alexander Arnold is a fine defender who can pair will with Rudiger but yet, his pairing with Virgil Vandike also contribute to solidifying the Liverpool defense which is what he will want to continue doing to assisdt them win leagues.
both clubs will have to meet on a mtual ground to decide on the fate of the player but reardless of the outcome and even if he leaves or stays, he will still be in one of the best team in the world.
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January 03, 2025, 12:56:05 PM
Matchday 7 as the opening match of 2025 begins with Monaco against Aston Villa and it should be remembered that Aston Villa is currently safe enough to qualify but because there is still a chance of being eliminated so they need to conquer Monaco at home. It will not be easy but I am optimistic that Aston Villa in the Champions League has quite a lot of motivation and has repeatedly shown tight competition against giant teams only losing 1x in the last 6 matches. On the other hand Monaco the final result, whether they lose or win will still be in the play-off zone.

There are almost 20 days until this match. It is not easy to predict this match right now, Aston Villa will play 4 more matches during this time. Both the FA Cup match and the Arsenal match will be during this time and this may cause Aston Villa players to get tired.
Their performance in the Champions League has been quite good so I think they will win this match as well. The opponent is not very strong and Aston Villa will do their best to stay in the top ranks Smiley

Aston Villa played pretty well and he was in the top 5 Champions League and the match standings he would face in the 7th match was Monaco, my personal view was not a team that could be underestimated even though we saw that Monaco was at the lower level With Aston Villa but Monaco also has the ability to reverse unexpected situations in several big matches, but in the match in the match is to qualify for the next round, for a safer position in staring at the future is to be in the top 8 and Aston Villa is very possible out in the top 8 of the standings.
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January 03, 2025, 12:44:53 PM
Aston Villa performance is similar to roller coaster this season because their performance is really unpredictable because sometimes they can able to beat strong teams but often too Aston Villa lost against the team from lower rank and for Champion league i have been discuss about them before and against Monaco it could be interesting match because if Aston Villa won probably they will be qualify to the next round

If we see based on squad quality i have to says Aston Villa and Monaco has equal quality but Aston Villa can able to managed their consistency and only lost once in Champion league but for the schedules Monaco has tight schedules too because before this match Monaco had 4 matches to played one of them is against PSG at Trophée des Champions
Aston Villa's last two opponents besides Monaco are Celtic. I think the opportunity to qualify directly to the next round is still uncertain for Aston Villa. The points difference is very small and a draw or loss will greatly affect their position in the standings. Because Monaco cannot be considered an easy opponent, they may have the same strength. Moreover, they will play at Monaco's home ground. While facing Celtic, it may not be easy either. But clearly, Aston Villa will definitely be more favored even though it will not be easy to get a win.
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January 03, 2025, 12:39:45 PM
The match in which Aston Villa will face the Monaco football team may be too late to take place. You are absolutely correct  that Aston Villa is one of the best teams in the UEFA Champions League. But I don't think Aston Villa have a 90 percent chance of winning against Monaco. Aston Villa currently have a lot of points, maybe their players have performed well that's why they have so many points, although they are far up the points table but their points difference with Monaco is not much. Based on the recent performances of Monaco and Aston Villa i.e. both the teams have equal winning percentages in the last five matches they have played.

There are many things that make sense in what you say, but looking at it from a different point of view, Aston Villa have lost many games in a humiliating way, and nobody can deny that, now this match against a Ligue 1 team I think both have chances of winning, I lean towards Aston Villa and that is because it is a team that belongs to the PL and the PL is the football with the highest level so far, so in view of these things you can intuit that they have an advantage over Ligue 1, which for me is not that high a level of football.
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January 03, 2025, 12:36:54 PM
Matchday 7 as the opening match of 2025 begins with Monaco against Aston Villa and it should be remembered that Aston Villa is currently safe enough to qualify but because there is still a chance of being eliminated so they need to conquer Monaco at home. It will not be easy but I am optimistic that Aston Villa in the Champions League has quite a lot of motivation and has repeatedly shown tight competition against giant teams only losing 1x in the last 6 matches. On the other hand Monaco the final result, whether they lose or win will still be in the play-off zone.

There are almost 20 days until this match. It is not easy to predict this match right now, Aston Villa will play 4 more matches during this time. Both the FA Cup match and the Arsenal match will be during this time and this may cause Aston Villa players to get tired.
Their performance in the Champions League has been quite good so I think they will win this match as well. The opponent is not very strong and Aston Villa will do their best to stay in the top ranks Smiley
Aston Villa performance is similar to roller coaster this season because their performance is really unpredictable because sometimes they can able to beat strong teams but often too Aston Villa lost against the team from lower rank and for Champion league i have been discuss about them before and against Monaco it could be interesting match because if Aston Villa won probably they will be qualify to the next round

If we see based on squad quality i have to says Aston Villa and Monaco has equal quality but Aston Villa can able to managed their consistency and only lost once in Champion league but for the schedules Monaco has tight schedules too because before this match Monaco had 4 matches to played one of them is against PSG at Trophée des Champions
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January 03, 2025, 11:52:53 AM
Actually we also can't claim that under Arne Slot they won't experience a decline, because they are not at the end of the season and now they are not even halfway through their journey this season, so we can't rush to judge.
I don't mean to underestimate Arne Slot, because after all now it can't be denied that he gave something good to Liverpool. Well, his next job is to maintain what he has created so far, don't let him decline at the end of the season. Because that's not easy to do, especially if they have problems, such as a storm of injuries and so on.
I would say they may, but its also not reasonable to bet according to how the yare going to have a decline. That would entail we would have to bet on them to lose games, and at the moment it looks like they are going to win. This is why I always suggest betting on them to win, in a martingale way, that works in sports much better than everything else. In dice for example, if you do martingale, even with 50% win chance, there is no way that you can go on for too long, because you could lose 10+ times in a row, and bankrupt your whole capital. That is why it only works at football, it's rare that any team would go like City, be great but then be terrible, any great team usually ends up having few bad games, but then recover.

So if you bet on Liverpool to win, every time, and anytime they lose, just bet bigger and bigger, eventually they will win, they won't go 10+ games without a win, hell even City didn't go 10+ games without a win, on their worst ever period.
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January 03, 2025, 11:47:52 AM
Liverpool have their style of winning titles and becoming one of the best EPL clubs. They're similarly recognized as one of the elite teams followed after Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea. With the transparent aide of Jurgen Klopp, they're ranked top. Liverpool under the management of Jurgen Klopp was increasingly incredible. We have to watch to stellar performance of the players, he made quite good signings for the club and have been in touch with the players. Jurgen Klopp era is over and now time for Arne Slot to take over, he improved his pattern and having one of the good scent to push forward. He's making excellent choice for the club and will take them to prominent heights in the nearest future. The UEFA Champions League title is considered priority for every participating team, they're elite and winning matches is compulsory to reach far.

Slots do provide a strong and dominant game on Liverpool's character. They are unbeaten in 6 Champions League matches, and have only lost 1 time in the Premier League. Liverpool's decision to choose Slots to continue the great work that Klopp has built is right. and they are currently proving it with their performance. Regarding the results in the Champions League, we still can't see for sure. Although Liverpool is unbeaten in this round, in the knockout rounds everything might be different. Hopefully, Liverpool will remain consistent.
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January 03, 2025, 11:38:28 AM
I think Liverpool performance under Klopp last season actually lost their concentration after Klopp announced that he stopped coaching in the middle of the season, so it have a bad impact on the mentality and morale of the players towards the end of the season, besides that injured some of their main players last season of course had a big impact on the game of the Liverpool squad at that time, this season they have had a perfect season in the UCL and EPL, but it is too early for us to claim if they can be consistent until the end of the season especially in the UCL, they do show great potential to be one of the candidate championship teams, but the UCL is not an easy competition and the fierce competition from many big teams will certainly be a difficult challenge for the slot squad especially in the knockout phase later.
Liverpool have their style of winning titles and becoming one of the best EPL clubs. They're similarly recognized as one of the elite teams followed after Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea. With the transparent aide of Jurgen Klopp, they're ranked top. Liverpool under the management of Jurgen Klopp was increasingly incredible. We have to watch to stellar performance of the players, he made quite good signings for the club and have been in touch with the players. Jurgen Klopp era is over and now time for Arne Slot to take over, he improved his pattern and having one of the good scent to push forward. He's making excellent choice for the club and will take them to prominent heights in the nearest future. The UEFA Champions League title is considered priority for every participating team, they're elite and winning matches is compulsory to reach far.
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January 03, 2025, 11:18:01 AM
We have Liverpool on their best run in first half of this season and things are clearly indicating they could be on pole position for the title race as well but still it's long way to go and ups and downs are also part of the game with knock out round has also never been easy for any team because thing could be more competitive for all.
Liverpool must make the failure in the Europa League as the most valuable lesson so that it does not happen again in the UCL, initially they were always consistent in maintaining their performance, after that they had to accept defeat from Atalanta. This scenario must be prevented by being more careful when facing the opponent because when it reaches the knock-out round, there will always be unexpected surprises.
I am very happy with the improvement of Real Madrid's performance, without them no one can challenge the other favorite teams.

That's true, but their failure in the Europa League last season was due to several factors. if I'm not mistaken they had several injured players, plus the tight competition in the Premier League. but however as you said, if Liverpool has big ambitions for the Champions League title this season with Arne Slot they must be consistent until the final round later. at the same time maintaining consistency is not something that is very easy, because their opponents in the next rounds are not teams that are easy to defeat and even their opposing team has the potential to trip them up when they meet Liverpool in the next phase. on the other hand, I'm sure Arne Slot is very aware of the need to maintain the rhythm of the performance of his team. a job that is not easy, especially since this is his first season handling Liverpool. fortunately apart from the tactics and strategies implemented by Arne Slot, Liverpool's players are in their best form even though some of their players have entered the treatment room due to injury. talking about Madrid, let's just see the remaining matches they will play to close the group stage of this competition and ensure their next progress.
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January 03, 2025, 10:52:35 AM
Matchday 7 as the opening match of 2025 begins with Monaco against Aston Villa and it should be remembered that Aston Villa is currently safe enough to qualify but because there is still a chance of being eliminated so they need to conquer Monaco at home. It will not be easy but I am optimistic that Aston Villa in the Champions League has quite a lot of motivation and has repeatedly shown tight competition against giant teams only losing 1x in the last 6 matches. On the other hand Monaco the final result, whether they lose or win will still be in the play-off zone.
Monaco football team will play football match against Aston Villa football team. That match will be organize in the Stade Louis II. Aston Villa team is best team of UEFA Champions League and there are 90 percent chances of win of that team because players of that team are in excellent form and they will do their hundred percent to win the match  in 21 Jan . Aston Villa has 5th position on the table and the points of that team are 13 on the table which will give them confidence to play well against Monaco team . And Monaco team is low rank team because they won less matches in this tournament and that team has only 10 points on the table and the position of that team is at 16 position on the table.
The match in which Aston Villa will face the Monaco football team may be too late to take place. You are absolutely correct  that Aston Villa is one of the best teams in the UEFA Champions League. But I don't think Aston Villa have a 90 percent chance of winning against Monaco. Aston Villa currently have a lot of points, maybe their players have performed well that's why they have so many points, although they are far up the points table but their points difference with Monaco is not much. Based on the recent performances of Monaco and Aston Villa i.e. both the teams have equal winning percentages in the last five matches they have played.
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January 03, 2025, 10:15:52 AM
Manchester City and Barcelona crises are not so much different. Do not be fooled by the UCL standings as of now. Let's look at the current form even in the domestic leagues. Do you think Barcelona that at one point had a 9 point league in la liga but are now 2 points behind Atlético Madrid with a game in hand can Reach the UCL final? Dude, they have just one win in their last 6 la liga matches  Grin

You have a valid point. There is no big difference between both sides. I think most of our attention is fully focused on City's loss, forgetting that Barce aren't doing great either. Barcelona have had pretty good numbers of games in hand, which I had always thought that they could capitalize on, inorder to move further above Real madrid and other teams that follows, but they kept disappointing, and left that slot for a team that was ready to take all chances.

I just checked both teams five games, and they've won just one game each, and surprisingly, Barce even have more losses than City. Even if Barce have been far better than City in the UCL, their recent performance in the league will still tell a lot of story, because there are two games to be played in this group. There are far better teams that we can picture in the final, but tbh, Barce's recent performance doesn't put them in that spot. But I won't rule them out completely, because, I believe every team lose and gets their form back with time.
In as much as there is truth in what you are saying. Having ever though about how strong the match against two big teams can be? Knowing the fact that one is a team in the England League and the other in the Spanish league. TBH, it has never been an easy game for these two teams. They are Champions of Champions, they have history. When they face each other, both teams would want to keep good records against each other. Hard truth is one must come out victorious and the other will be a loser that day.

Barcelona are not promising honestly, these days i avoid them in my bet slip including Manchester City. Glory days wont last forever that is life. Now they are facing big problems in the club from players to management but one day things will go back to normal for them.
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January 03, 2025, 10:12:43 AM
Yes, the failure should be a lesson and as you said in the Jurgen Klopp era, Liverpool were only consistent at the beginning and after the middle in all competitions their performance declined. But now Liverpool with Arne Slot whose performance has continued to improve so far and continues to be a very aggressive opponent for the opposing team, but in the UCL anything can happen and there are also many surprises because the UCL is a very prestigious league that is a mainstay and is prioritized for teams in their respective leagues. Real Madrid remains a strong competitor for other favorite teams, and what we must know is that Real Madrid's characteristic in the UCL is that they can always make a comeback and always qualify from round to round even to the final.
Actually we also can't claim that under Arne Slot they won't experience a decline, because they are not at the end of the season and now they are not even halfway through their journey this season, so we can't rush to judge.
I don't mean to underestimate Arne Slot, because after all now it can't be denied that he gave something good to Liverpool. Well, his next job is to maintain what he has created so far, don't let him decline at the end of the season. Because that's not easy to do, especially if they have problems, such as a storm of injuries and so on.
I think Liverpool performance under Klopp last season actually lost their concentration after Klopp announced that he stopped coaching in the middle of the season, so it have a bad impact on the mentality and morale of the players towards the end of the season, besides that injured some of their main players last season of course had a big impact on the game of the Liverpool squad at that time, this season they have had a perfect season in the UCL and EPL, but it is too early for us to claim if they can be consistent until the end of the season especially in the UCL, they do show great potential to be one of the candidate championship teams, but the UCL is not an easy competition and the fierce competition from many big teams will certainly be a difficult challenge for the slot squad especially in the knockout phase later.
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January 03, 2025, 09:18:02 AM
Yes, the failure should be a lesson and as you said in the Jurgen Klopp era, Liverpool were only consistent at the beginning and after the middle in all competitions their performance declined. But now Liverpool with Arne Slot whose performance has continued to improve so far and continues to be a very aggressive opponent for the opposing team, but in the UCL anything can happen and there are also many surprises because the UCL is a very prestigious league that is a mainstay and is prioritized for teams in their respective leagues. Real Madrid remains a strong competitor for other favorite teams, and what we must know is that Real Madrid's characteristic in the UCL is that they can always make a comeback and always qualify from round to round even to the final.
Actually we also can't claim that under Arne Slot they won't experience a decline, because they are not at the end of the season and now they are not even halfway through their journey this season, so we can't rush to judge.
I don't mean to underestimate Arne Slot, because after all now it can't be denied that he gave something good to Liverpool. Well, his next job is to maintain what he has created so far, don't let him decline at the end of the season. Because that's not easy to do, especially if they have problems, such as a storm of injuries and so on.
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January 03, 2025, 09:01:24 AM
We have Liverpool on their best run in first half of this season and things are clearly indicating they could be on pole position for the title race as well but still it's long way to go and ups and downs are also part of the game with knock out round has also never been easy for any team because thing could be more competitive for all.
Liverpool must make the failure in the Europa League as the most valuable lesson so that it does not happen again in the UCL, initially they were always consistent in maintaining their performance, after that they had to accept defeat from Atalanta. This scenario must be prevented by being more careful when facing the opponent because when it reaches the knock-out round, there will always be unexpected surprises.
I am very happy with the improvement of Real Madrid's performance, without them no one can challenge the other favorite teams.
Yes, the failure should be a lesson and as you said in the Jurgen Klopp era, Liverpool were only consistent at the beginning and after the middle in all competitions their performance declined. But now Liverpool with Arne Slot whose performance has continued to improve so far and continues to be a very aggressive opponent for the opposing team, but in the UCL anything can happen and there are also many surprises because the UCL is a very prestigious league that is a mainstay and is prioritized for teams in their respective leagues. Real Madrid remains a strong competitor for other favorite teams, and what we must know is that Real Madrid's characteristic in the UCL is that they can always make a comeback and always qualify from round to round even to the final.
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January 03, 2025, 08:37:30 AM
We have Liverpool on their best run in first half of this season and things are clearly indicating they could be on pole position for the title race as well but still it's long way to go and ups and downs are also part of the game with knock out round has also never been easy for any team because thing could be more competitive for all.
Liverpool must make the failure in the Europa League as the most valuable lesson so that it does not happen again in the UCL, initially they were always consistent in maintaining their performance, after that they had to accept defeat from Atalanta. This scenario must be prevented by being more careful when facing the opponent because when it reaches the knock-out round, there will always be unexpected surprises.
I am very happy with the improvement of Real Madrid's performance, without them no one can challenge the other favorite teams.
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January 03, 2025, 08:31:00 AM
Real Madrid has its own way of recruiting players, and they are very smart about it. Because, they are aware that Real Madrid is the definition of "TOP brand equity". Just imagine, a player can willingly go to Real Madrid for free and postpone the contract extension with the old club. Just look at what is currently circulating with player Trent Alexander-Arnold, Real Madrid is reportedly very interested in the player because this is to strengthen Real Madrid's defense line.
That is only the goal of Trent Alexander-Arnold himself who really wants to go to Real Madrid because he really wants to carve out his career in the Real Madrid team other than in the Liverpool team like now. So we also can't assume all other players are like that because every player does have a certain goal during their career in a team even though every player knows that Real Madrid is a good team to defend. And if Trent Alexander-Arnold can dock at the Real Madrid team, of course Real Madrid's defense condition can be saved a little.
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