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Quote from: baeva on August 01, 2024, 05:29:09 PM

I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole

Not saying the guy us cursed actually... don't really know what's wrong with your sense of humor but t o be honest the guy is really battling with badlucks not himself actually but I think his choice of clubs , with his goals just like mbappe he ought to have won at least one world best but that won't really matter because he has no qualified trifles apart from being a goal scorer just like lewandowski, I really want him to have atleast 1 actually... he already tried and deserves one

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The Bayern Munich team has made some good signing and the arrival of the new coach should be able to fix the issues in the team and bring the team back to winning trophies even as they hope to get back to the position they belong in the league.

The new coach would be able to do that? Are hundred percent convinced already that Vincent Kompany would win the Bundesliga League Competition next season?

Not totally convinced with Vincent Kompany winning the league next season since he's just getting to work with the players and he's got a lot to do which should take him some couple of weeks depending on the teams his club is going to face but looking at the current squad in the team right now and with Kane still very active in terms of scoring goals I think it's going to be a battle between Bayern Munich, Bayer Leverkusen and Stuttgart next season but based on the performance of Leverkusen last season I think Bayern Munich won't find it easy to take over but with good performance they can lift the trophy again.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on August 01, 2024, 06:42:55 PM

The Bayern Munich team has made some good signing and the arrival of the new coach should be able to fix the issues in the team and bring the team back to winning trophies even as they hope to get back to the position they belong in the league.

The new coach would be able to do that? Are hundred percent convinced already that Vincent Kompany would win the Bundesliga League Competition next season?
I'm not convinced anyways, he'll have to show workings. I do not think Vincent Kompany is a upgrade for the former manager Thomas Tuchel but well, we'll see what happens at the end of season. In my own opinion, Xabi Alonso has what it takes to win the Bundesliga League Competition back again this season.
He has brought in good signatures again so far and they have just been great during pre-season games already. I'm not so bothered with what they can do in the Bundesliga League Competition but what they can do in the Champions League Competition.

Tough call ahead, as much I want Harry Kane to win the Bundesliga League Competition. I feel like it'll be more difficult than it was last season.

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Quote from: baeva on August 01, 2024, 05:29:09 PM

I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole

Harry Kane always manages to maintain the best quality when it comes to scoring goals so there is nothing wrong with his performance. In fact, he managed to become the top scorer, of course that was quite a special achievement for him because he was a player who had just joined Bayern Munich.

However, the big problem was that he failed to bring the Bundesliga trophy to the fans and that was not entirely his fault. This season, of course, the big hope is to win a prestigious trophy, whether in the domestic league or Champions League.
The presence of Kompany will certainly bring new changes to Bayern Munich's journey this season.

The performance of Harry Kane has been brilliant since leaving Tottenham to join Bayern Munich last season and his goal scoring abilities kept increasing even as he took it all by himself by becoming the highest goal scorer last season but right now I think he has faced a lot of bad luck since he has only achieved individual awards without trophies to show for his great performances and last season his team went trophyless upon his arrival even though he was still a major contributor to the team's success despite them not winning a single trophy last season.

The new season will soon begin, the Bayern Munich team has made some good signing and the arrival of the new coach should be able to fix the issues in the team and bring the team back to winning trophies even as they hope to get back to the position they belong in the league.

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Quote from: baeva on August 01, 2024, 05:29:09 PM

I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole

Harry Kane always manages to maintain the best quality when it comes to scoring goals so there is nothing wrong with his performance. In fact, he managed to become the top scorer, of course that was quite a special achievement for him because he was a player who had just joined Bayern Munich.

However, the big problem was that he failed to bring the Bundesliga trophy to the fans and that was not entirely his fault. This season, of course, the big hope is to win a prestigious trophy, whether in the domestic league or Champions League.
The presence of Kompany will certainly bring new changes to Bayern Munich's journey this season.

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Quote from: baeva on August 01, 2024, 05:29:09 PM

I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole

Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.

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Quote from: baeva on July 31, 2024, 05:37:00 PM

Last season showed that Bayern can perform inconsistently. Yes, last season was a phenomenon in their league, but Bayern themselves didn't perform at their best in the Champions League either. In my opinion Bayern are starting to deflate. Let's see how they start the season, if it's obvious that they are not playing confidently, then I think it will be more than obvious

They did tried their best FR just that luck is always against Harry Tongue

that was a joke actually but they did tried their best let's just say luck wasn't on their side unlike Dortmund who made that far with not too much effort(although they played well).
Let's see what this season will hold for this teams, it seems everyone his really cooking something for the UCL let's wait and see (I bey everyteam is looking for a squad to counter RM Grin

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I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole

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I agree with you guys who think Manchester City's being favoured more than Real Madrid for the CL trophy is ridiculous. It is like 3.25 to 4.00 for the moment.

I'm not intending to disrespect the Manchester club of course. They are very strong and have a wonderful coach like Guardiola also. But still they are far away from the point Real Madrid are at in this competition.

Real Madrid are dominating the CL. We are talking about a 15-time champion... I'm expecting a back-to-back title from them already. They are like an ecole here and now they have Mbappe too. Grin

When the Champions League rounds start and Manchester City have a bad run of form then the odds will change as the match goes on if you look now the bookies are clearly favoring Pep Guardiola's team although we can't deny that Real Madrid are more deserving.

Real Madrid have signed a lot of important players in this transfer window and most importantly Mbappe has had an impact, maybe Endrick will be more on the bench.

The league hasn't started yet, especially for the Champions League so the real game is still unknown although we know Manchester City and Real Madrid will dominate in their respective leagues, it could be that they compete again in the UCL.

Where do you see that the bookies favor Guardiola's men? do you have an eagle eye to see it? I really want to see the assessment of how the bookie evaluates a team to consider the odds that will be given to one team.

I rather agree that Manchester City and Real Madrid still cannot be determined who will get the victory in the coming season, and who is the best who will get the champion, although Real Madrid brings in very good and potential players not necessarily have free space in the UCL, something unexpected can happen on the field without us predicting at the beginning.

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Odds from betting bookies cannot be held accurately because they may change with a team's performance after two matches have been played. Indeed, in the last two seasons there has always been a favorite team with odds that are quite favorable, but it will all end in an uncertain way. Of course, these two teams are always favorites to reach the final and become champions, but if there are many surprises that occur during the round then these two teams will experience big difficulties.

Bookies are also managed and held by humans who cannot predict the future so that when there are mistakes and inaccuracies in their predictions for a team or match, it is also very natural so that every gambler should not rely too much on the odds from bookies because the bookies are also people who make money through the services they open to the public. Real Madrid and Manchester City will actually still be very good teams next season by trying to face every important match and win it so that changes and surprises will definitely be seen again, especially next season a new format will also be implemented in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on August 01, 2024, 04:22:06 PM

Attentions are being shifted to Spain now that they have Mbape in Spain.This was really a dream come through for him,and I believe they will still be aiming to win their tittle and the Champions league in this coming season.
This coming season is not going to be in favour of the Spanish clubs,I think Mancity, Liverpool and Arsenal are going to make things tough for Spanish teams.This means a premier league team will lift the Champions league trophy next season,either Mancity,Arsenal or Liverpool.

We may assume, but the fact is that Madrid currently has more complete attributes than other Champions League contestants. I think in many ways only Man City is close to Madrid at this time, Arsenal and Liverpool seem to be behind Bayern Munchen. However, Bayern Munchen is a little doubtful because their manager has no experience in the Champions League, but in terms of squad depth they are very capable. I think Madrid and Man City are strong candidates for the title next season, however all predictions can be wrong, even though on paper they deserve to be favorites.

Personally, I actually find it very difficult to predict the journey of each team in the Champions League next season, because as we know the format of the match has changed. Each team will play a greater number of matches (8 matches) in the new League phase (previously called the group stage), with 4 home matches and 4 away matches. This will certainly make the competition more competitive for each team, including those who are favored. The chances of a surprise are also very high, because all participants will need to adapt their strategy.

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Quote from: hahay on August 01, 2024, 04:45:54 PM

Liverpool has a new coach and his performance still does not guarantee success and about Arsenal, that they do not seem to prioritize the Champions League too much because the competition is basically more difficult. Thus, the dominance of Real Madrid and Manchester City will still be the best dominance but still, even if for example the top Premier League teams have the chance to provide difficult resistance to the La Liga teams. But in the end, Real Madrid will always make it to the final.

If Real Madrid makes it to the final, then of course Real Madrid chances of getting the trophy are very large to succeed So yes, I personally don't care about the many top European teams that have a good chance in the Champions League. Because in the end Real Madrid will still be a difficult opponent for other top teams in the Champions League.

Now the problem becomes more complex for Liverpool because until now before the transfer season is closed, Slot has not shown any signs that he will look for new players to support his performance next season and this will be a little worrying and a question about Liverpool who want to take a big risk now.
Although it is undeniable that their squad is still very good with the same players as last season, but still without any changes it is clear that it will show the same situation as before, especially for now Slot is a new coach who must have good adaptation to maintain Liverpool's performance and convince the public that he is worthy, but the way he is doing it now is quite extreme when deciding not to bring any players.

For Madrid, there is no need to doubt until now because with Mbappe, indirectly their probability is increasing now, and the words this season may be the same as before where when Madrid does not want to win, every club that is his opponent must try to beat before the final because if it is in the final then Madrid is definitely the champion.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on August 01, 2024, 04:51:50 PM

When the Champions League rounds start and Manchester City have a bad run of form then the odds will change as the match goes on if you look now the bookies are clearly favoring Pep Guardiola's team although we can't deny that Real Madrid are more deserving.

Real Madrid have signed a lot of important players in this transfer window and most importantly Mbappe has had an impact, maybe Endrick will be more on the bench.

The league hasn't started yet, especially for the Champions League so the real game is still unknown although we know Manchester City and Real Madrid will dominate in their respective leagues, it could be that they compete again in the UCL.

Odds from betting bookies cannot be held accurately because they may change with a team's performance after two matches have been played. Indeed, in the last two seasons there has always been a favorite team with odds that are quite favorable, but it will all end in an uncertain way. Of course, these two teams are always favorites to reach the final and become champions, but if there are many surprises that occur during the round then these two teams will experience big difficulties.

For Manchester City, of course, they are still quite far behind Real Madrid in the UCL trophy collection, but in the competition in the previous few seasons, Manchester City has of course been able to give everything to break many people's assumptions. Pep knows what to do because he is genius enough to make the team stronger and has the mentality to be a champion.

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Quote from: hahay on August 01, 2024, 04:45:54 PM

Liverpool has a new coach and his performance still does not guarantee success and about Arsenal, that they do not seem to prioritize the Champions League too much because the competition is basically more difficult. Thus, the dominance of Real Madrid and Manchester City will still be the best dominance but still, even if for example the top Premier League teams have the chance to provide difficult resistance to the La Liga teams. But in the end, Real Madrid will always make it to the final.

I wish Arsenal and Liverpool good luck but I also reason with you for saying that they were not prepared for the Champions league especially Arsenal. It's quite surprising to also see Arsenal losing the Premier league to the Manchester City too. Next tournament, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City must up their games to be more competitive in their competition. They need to stand on their feet to defeat Real Madrid at the top. While they are also working hard on taking their premier league, they must also work hard to challenge the status quo at the Champions league. Clubs like Arsenal with Arteta already have the experience including Manchester City with Pep Guardiola. What I expect them to do now is to leverage their mistakes and build on their lapses. There's less competition in the Champions league last year and possibly this year since Barcelona is also not in their best shape. They can use that opportunity to take the trophy home.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 01, 2024, 04:12:11 PM

I agree with you guys who think Manchester City's being favoured more than Real Madrid for the CL trophy is ridiculous. It is like 3.25 to 4.00 for the moment.

I'm not intending to disrespect the Manchester club of course. They are very strong and have a wonderful coach like Guardiola also. But still they are far away from the point Real Madrid are at in this competition.

Real Madrid are dominating the CL. We are talking about a 15-time champion... I'm expecting a back-to-back title from them already. They are like an ecole here and now they have Mbappe too. Grin

When the Champions League rounds start and Manchester City have a bad run of form then the odds will change as the match goes on if you look now the bookies are clearly favoring Pep Guardiola's team although we can't deny that Real Madrid are more deserving.

Real Madrid have signed a lot of important players in this transfer window and most importantly Mbappe has had an impact, maybe Endrick will be more on the bench.

The league hasn't started yet, especially for the Champions League so the real game is still unknown although we know Manchester City and Real Madrid will dominate in their respective leagues, it could be that they compete again in the UCL.

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Fenerbahce is now coached by Mourinho, of course there will be an increase in quality in his squad. Mourinho will try to do something that was never imagined before, he will make Fenerbahce succeed in beating Lille to maintain their chances of playing in the Champions League. Mourinho will immediately use an attacking strategy at the start of the match, he will direct his troops to surround Lille players in their defensive area. A first-half lead is Mourinho target and he will focus more on defense to secure the win. Lille also do not want to give up so easily, but Fenerbahce under Mourinho will continue to dominate them.

In the end, Fenerbache succeeded in beating Lugano 6-4 on aggregate. The second leg was fierce where Lugano took the lead in the first half, while Fenerbache turned things around in the second half and ended the match with a score of 2-1. Next, Fenerbache will face Lille, which is basically a team that has the potential to qualify for the group stage, but Mourinho might have a good plan for that match too.

The first leg will be played in the first week of August at the Hainaut Stadium or at Lille's home ground. Fenerbache certainly doesn't have much of an advantage in the first leg because they play at their opponent's home ground, but if they want to play in the Champions League then Mourinho has to step on the gas first by winning the first leg against Lille.

Lugano football team lose the match against Fenerbahçe SK foot team. Both teams were my favorite teams but I supported to Fenerbahçe SK team and that team won the match by 2-1 . The team combination was perfect and we saw excellent competition in this match . Players of Fenerbahçe SK team looked in good body language due to which they lose the opponent team. I like that kind of match in which both teams are of same strength and stamina but we saw Fenerbahçe SK practice was better than Lugano team and due to which they won the match easily. Szymanski did second goal for the team and after his goal match was decided because opponent team did no goal after that and we saw good match.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on August 01, 2024, 04:22:06 PM

Attentions are being shifted to Spain now that they have Mbape in Spain.This was really a dream come through for him,and I believe they will still be aiming to win their tittle and the Champions league in this coming season.
This coming season is not going to be in favour of the Spanish clubs,I think Mancity, Liverpool and Arsenal are going to make things tough for Spanish teams.This means a premier league team will lift the Champions league trophy next season,either Mancity,Arsenal or Liverpool.

Liverpool has a new coach and his performance still does not guarantee success and about Arsenal, that they do not seem to prioritize the Champions League too much because the competition is basically more difficult. Thus, the dominance of Real Madrid and Manchester City will still be the best dominance but still, even if for example the top Premier League teams have the chance to provide difficult resistance to the La Liga teams. But in the end, Real Madrid will always make it to the final.

If Real Madrid makes it to the final, then of course Real Madrid chances of getting the trophy are very large to succeed So yes, I personally don't care about the many top European teams that have a good chance in the Champions League. Because in the end Real Madrid will still be a difficult opponent for other top teams in the Champions League.

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Jose Mourinho has pocketed a lot of experience and awards while coaching big European clubs so Fenerbahce is lucky enough to get this coach to improve their game, even though Jose Mourinho is known as a coach with an old-school coaching system, the proof is that he still has the ability to coach Fenerbahce in the qualifying round this time but yes in the next round Fenerbahce will face one of the clubs from the top league, namely League 1 so it is not an easy thing for Jose Mourinho to make his club beat Lille but with his experience it seems he will provide his best strategy so that his club can qualify to play in the Champions League next season.

I wouldn't want to see like fenerbahce is just lucky because I believe Mourinho too would have gone for a better offer if there was any, this still doesn't mean he's not got a choice tho but there was an agreement before a deal was struck so no one is luckier than the other. I'm not ignoring the wealth of experience and excellent Mourinho has gotten but then we should understand it's the reason he's getting hired even if he may not be at his peak as he used to be, fernabache is hoping they get the best regardless, but then one thing is certain, in other to avoid disappointments, the expectations from him shouldn't be really high as he's gotten pass his prime.

I don't think Jose Mourinho has gone pass his prime as you think, the only problem the coach has is being too authoritative with his players that's the only thing i find very odd in the coach if not, he is one of the Luckiest coach in Europe because even when he gets sacked, other clubs still find worthiness in him to coach their team so he's a very lucky manager. The Champions League will not really be easy for Jose Mourinho to sail through due to the team he is coaching so had it been it was to be a more recognized team from Europe I would have considered his ability to take the team to a greater extent in the Champions League but even though Fenerbahce is a very good team from the Turkish league but their chances of advancing in the champions league is at a very low level.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 01, 2024, 04:12:11 PM

I agree with you guys who think Manchester City's being favoured more than Real Madrid for the CL trophy is ridiculous. It is like 3.25 to 4.00 for the moment.

I'm not intending to disrespect the Manchester club of course. They are very strong and have a wonderful coach like Guardiola also. But still they are far away from the point Real Madrid are at in this competition.

Real Madrid are dominating the CL. We are talking about a 15-time champion... I'm expecting a back-to-back title from them already. They are like an ecole here and now they have Mbappe too. Grin

The hype of this Real Madrid became more stronger this time because they signed Mbappe that everyone knows that he is a player that has never won the Champions League before and will make every effort to win it with Madrid, but I am telling people that it can happen but might not be in his first season because there are teams that can defeat Madrid in this current list of teams in the Champions League competition this season.

Talking about the bookmaker’s favoring Manchester City over Madrid is still normal; the margin is not much compare to other teams, and do not be surprise if any of these two teams end up not winning the Champions League next season because there are teams that can struggle to also win the Champions League this coming season.

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Why would you think they'd be complacent after winning big in the first leg? I checked their match history and it seems like they take this competition seriously. I don't think resting key players is a bad choice and even if they trail by 3 goals in the first half doesn't mean they can't change anything by the second half. Not to mention the target is the Champions League, not some local cups that has no history at all.

Because I lost many bets because of this kind of incidents. A team win the first leg by a big goal gap and show how much they overwhelm their opponent. After that, I bet on them in the second leg by thinking they would win again. But they surprise me by getting a draw or lose because of being complacent. Grin

Therefore I started not to place a bet in this kind of situations.

Honestly, it is not a good idea for someone to fully predict a match based only on what happened in the first leg. A match in the first leg doesn't always guarantee that the team will win the second leg. Winning the first leg match can be lucky or likely based on some factors. In the second leg, everything can change due to various factors. Any team's performance can improve or decline at any time; all these happen because of one or two factors. In fact, this is the reason why many gamblers who bet on football matches lose because they always focus on what has happened to predict matches. But that is not supposed to be; we need to always consider present factors of teams before predicting their outcome.

Home side team is always at more advantage in the second leg match than the visitors and that is why using only the first leg to conclude who had won the two matches is wrong because a lot of surprises can happen in the second leg.

We saw a lot of that happened last season between some tough clubs and like you said in the second leg there might be some factors that will deprive the team that won the first leg from winning. Factors like injury or red card in the match.

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Attentions are being shifted to Spain now that they have Mbape in Spain.This was really a dream come through for him,and I believe they will still be aiming to win their tittle and the Champions league in this coming season.
This coming season is not going to be in favour of the Spanish clubs,I think Mancity, Liverpool and Arsenal are going to make things tough for Spanish teams.This means a premier league team will lift the Champions league trophy next season,either Mancity,Arsenal or Liverpool.

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