UCL is nothing like the leagues, while Real does win the La Liga quite commonly and also gets the UCL, we are talking about all other teams in the world. Just because you may dominate Serie A doesn't mean you will get any good at UCL, or just because you destroy everyone at ligue 1 doesn't mean you will do any good at UCL neither, same goes Bundesliga and Bayern, they managed to win once during their ten year tenure dominating the whole league.
So, it is clear that leagues don't matter when we are talking about the UCL situation. We can't look at the league and make a prediction based on that. Dortmund sucked at Bundesliga last year, they had no place being the finalist and yet they were and they played fairly well there.
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Where do you see that the bookies favor Guardiola's men? do you have an eagle eye to see it? I really want to see the assessment of how the bookie evaluates a team to consider the odds that will be given to one team.
I rather agree that Manchester City and Real Madrid still cannot be determined who will get the victory in the coming season, and who is the best who will get the champion, although Real Madrid brings in very good and potential players not necessarily have free space in the UCL, something unexpected can happen on the field without us predicting at the beginning.
I rather agree that Manchester City and Real Madrid still cannot be determined who will get the victory in the coming season, and who is the best who will get the champion, although Real Madrid brings in very good and potential players not necessarily have free space in the UCL, something unexpected can happen on the field without us predicting at the beginning.
I don’t see the bookies favoring any team here if you ask me, the two clubs both Manchester city and Real Madrid are the best teams in Europe currently, and they deserve the top spot. You see this odds sometimes are not just a thing that anybody will sum up most of the time they usually involve computer calculations for things involving each squad depth, and seriously Manchester city have that squad to go all ahead.
As for Real Madrid no one can deny their position, there are always the team to beat before you get to anything like winning the champions league, even Pep Guardiola once said that they are the favorites as long as they have not been knocked out, when Manchester city won it, it was them that they defeated, same with Chelsea year of triumph too.
So it may only be computer speculation that is programmed in assessing a team, but how does the computer adjust a development on a team, of course there must be certain factors that become the calculation material so that it can have a conclusion on the assessment of a team.
If we look at the Champion League, indeed the spotlight is Real Madrid and also Manchestter City, the two teams are indeed a favorite to get a victory in the UCL, it is no longer a view that can be hidden, if not Real Madrid who wins then most likely Manchester City.
I will be very curious to see if there is a new challenger in the UCL that can keep up with these two teams.
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The victory of Bodo Glimt, Midtjylland or even Dynamo Kiev is certainly not surprising but what happened to Maccabi Tel Aviv was really unexpected. In fact, I think they are one of the promising participants in every Champions League qualification and this time they had to be eliminated first after Petrocub beat them with a score of 0-1 and made Petrocub win with an aggregate of 1-2.
Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
I was also surprised by the performance of Maccabi Tel Aviv I thought they would qualify for the next round because when playing away they were able to equalize the score should have played at home it would have been easier for them to give attacks to their opponents but instead they were defeated at home this must have been very disappointing for their fans who expected a win, I myself did not choose one of them to win but at least I predict both teams to score but unfortunately it did not match my prediction. Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
This is the stats from Maccabi vs FCSB.
Maccabi's performance made me baffled last days. Unbelievable! Maccabi lost a home game to FCSB. This result ruined my parlay. I took Maccabi to win the game considering it's a home game, but Maccabi's performance deceived me. I wonder what's wrong with Maccabi, and they played so badly in the second leg.
Maccabi was scary at the start of each half in the first leg. But they failed to attack in the second leg, with only two goal attempts. I think Maccabi was messed up. Beaten's last-minute goal ruined Maccabi's mood in the second half.
It's such a disgrace for this club to be unable to manage to qualify for the further stage. Maccabi's performance was so far from my expectations. My fault for putting it in my parlay.
I don't believe in curses actually. Kane is a great striker but unfortunately he always fails to win trophies. I doubt this season Munich will win the Bundesliga. They have a new coach and I see Kompany has not proven anything. I need to watch some games to see if Kompany can really make Munich back into a title contender.
In football I believe hard work and doing the right thing, been in the right team too has got a whole lot to do with how well you are going to win and not about curses because I don't think any of such has really got much to do on the player if the player is literally doing well enough, the case Kane is one that I believe that he's been mostly on the wrong timing because even with Tottenham it was the times the team were in their poor form and now Bayern Munich I'm believing with this new coach they have got things can get much better. 
But, even though I also believe that Kane was not at the right time as you assume, but at the same time at least I also believe in about the curse. Because after all, Kane's failure to win trophies with the team was not only at Tottenham and Bayern Munich, but in fact Kane also experienced failure with the England national team. After all, in the England national team, at least the squad is very good with Bellingham also there, but still, in the Euro 2024 event, England also lost in the final by Spain.
The facts that we see are like that for Harry Kane, how could it not be, Tottenham, Bayern Munich who 11 years dominated the Bundesliga title when Kane came there was no trophy that could be achieved, really I don't understand when Kane is there.Yeah about the Euro final yesterday Kane failed to dream of winning another trophy.
Kane is in the right place I think, the myth people were thinking about him looks real but I still feel that Tottenham is not a good team for him because if he has joined Manchester City or Chelsea throughout his stay in his English Premier League, he could have won the Premier League or any other title throughout his stay in the EPL.
Yeah Kane is now in the right place at Bayern Munich it's just that the first season failed but for the next season he could win the title with Bayern Munich.The problem is that Kane used to be too loyal to Tottenham, whether this is a family reason or indeed his desire is still a great player, what he lacks is not being able to win a trophy once.
I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.
Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...
Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.
Kane is in the right place I think, the myth people were thinking about him looks real but I still feel that Tottenham is not a good team for him because if he has joined Manchester City or Chelsea throughout his stay in his English Premier League, he could have won the Premier League or any other title throughout his stay in the EPL.Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...
Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.
Nevertheless, I think it’s now over since he can now win title with Bayern because I am very sure that Bayern Munich will win trophy next season and Kane will be a great player in the Bundesliga and he will also win individual awards while staying at Munich.
Kane is always at the wrong place at the wrong time and that is the problem with him. Imagine to be in a club that has being winning for long and that season the club didn't win the league. However, I still believe that Kane will have his best moment soon because Bayern Munich will win the league.
I don't think that it is good for us to underestimate Kompany coaching skills because he is with a different club that is strong compared to when he was coaching an average club. Bayern Munich might still reach the semifinals next season because they have experienced players in UCL and they are use to the league.
I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.I don't think that it is good for us to underestimate Kompany coaching skills because he is with a different club that is strong compared to when he was coaching an average club. Bayern Munich might still reach the semifinals next season because they have experienced players in UCL and they are use to the league.
Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...
Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.
Thus, I also believe in about the curse, because if the curse doesn't really exist, then at least Bayern Munich can still win the trophy in the DFB Pokal. But in reality, last season Bayern Munich also really failed because they were unable to win any trophies. With these considerations, I believe it will still be difficult for Bayern Munich to get good results in the Champions League. Because, competing well and strongly in the race for the Bundesliga and DFB Pokal trophies still seems difficult for Bayern Munich, and there are still no definite guarantees.
Kane is always at the wrong place at the wrong time and that is the problem with him. Imagine to be in a club that has being winning for long and that season the club didn't win the league. However, I still believe that Kane will have his best moment soon because Bayern Munich will win the league.
I don't think that it is good for us to underestimate Kompany coaching skills because he is with a different club that is strong compared to when he was coaching an average club. Bayern Munich might still reach the semifinals next season because they have experienced players in UCL and they are use to the league.
I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.I don't think that it is good for us to underestimate Kompany coaching skills because he is with a different club that is strong compared to when he was coaching an average club. Bayern Munich might still reach the semifinals next season because they have experienced players in UCL and they are use to the league.
Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...
Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.
You cannot blame it completely on Tottenham, because of it actually was then why is it that at Bayern Munich where he's got all the chances and even a good squad that has got the records, he couldn't win even a lesser trophy from their domestic league even if it's not the champions League. With kompany in Bayern Munich, let's hope it only gets better and this season they will be able to get something better from that which they did got last season.kane should be a great part of the success story of komapany been anticipated at Bayern Munich.
If we want to be more polite we can say that Kane was unlucky and that was in relation to both when he played at Tottenham and Bayern Munich. But if you look at his contribution, he played well and even became the top scorer at Tottenham and Bayern Munich. Kompany will be tested because he has to restore the dominance of the best form of play at Bayern Munich because previously they failed last season and did not get any trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga should not be difficult for Kompany because there are only a few clubs that can compete with them.But if we talk about the Champions League, it is difficult, besides having to have experienced players, the coach is also very decisive and I doubt Kompany will be able to bring Bayern Munich to compete with other teams until the semifinals. Not to underestimate Kompany's skills, but I see that he does not have the opportunity for that now because there are many other coaches who are much more experienced.
I don't think that it is good for us to underestimate Kompany coaching skills because he is with a different club that is strong compared to when he was coaching an average club. Bayern Munich might still reach the semifinals next season because they have experienced players in UCL and they are use to the league.
Because the load is a question mark, then for me it is not necessarily true regarding Harry Kane who has never won a title. What I mean is not because of Tottenham Hotspur, Kane failed to win the championship trophy. Kane's curse will end with Bayern Munich even though last season as his first season he still couldn't lift the trophy.
Btw, the third round has some matches that I think are quite interesting because there are some clubs that we already know where they have also been several times in the Champions League or Europa League such as PAOK who will play Malmo, Salzburg who must prepare to face FC Twente and the match I want to see the most is Fenerbahce against Lille.
For the previous rounds I didn't really follow because some clubs I didn't even recognize but for the third round this time I think it will be quite interesting to see how some clubs that can be considered quite big compete for a position in the Champions League.
Bayern Munich has a strong tradition of winning the Bundesliga title, i agree that previously they were unlucky because the performance shown by Bayer Leverkusen continued to improve in every match. Harry Kane's curse is not a real thing, there is no such thing in football, i never believed in it. In the next season with Bayern Munich, i'm sure Harry Kane will get at least 1 trophy, at least the DFB Pokal.
The dynasty that Bayern Munich built in the Bundesliga has just come to an end, luck is not with Bayern Munich as Leverkusen performance continues to improve. Maybe this season Bayern Munich will be without a title again because Leverkusen still maintains the squad that managed to achieve success last season. On the other hand, the increasing competition in the Champions League makes it difficult for Bayern Munich to survive longer, one of the factors of doubt in Bayern Munich ability is the presence of Kompany who has no experience in handling a big team and has never led his squad in the Champions League.The Harry Kane curse is still just a myth, there is no certainty that Bayern Munich failure was caused by the curse of Harry Kane who has difficulty winning titles. If Bayern Munich form does not decline under Tuchel management, perhaps Harry Kane will win his first title.
They are with a new coach now and actually this is a big question too, because with the new coach we haven't seen how they will perform. Will the new coach make them better or vice versa. But on the other hand, we are looking forward to seeing what will happen next season, the competition will be even more competitive than usual, which is what we want to see in the 2024/2025 season.
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Bayern Munich has a strong tradition of winning the Bundesliga title, i agree that previously they were unlucky because the performance shown by Bayer Leverkusen continued to improve in every match. Harry Kane's curse is not a real thing, there is no such thing in football, i never believed in it. In the next season with Bayern Munich, i'm sure Harry Kane will get at least 1 trophy, at least the DFB Pokal.The Harry Kane curse is still just a myth, there is no certainty that Bayern Munich failure was caused by the curse of Harry Kane who has difficulty winning titles. If Bayern Munich form does not decline under Tuchel management, perhaps Harry Kane will win his first title.
Munich has improved the quality of their squad by bringing in several new players so that it is possible for them to be able to continue to compete in next season, apart from that we cannot doubt Bayern Munich mentality in the Champions League so far and in my opinion, they still deserve to be a favorite team in the Champions League.
The victory of Bodo Glimt, Midtjylland or even Dynamo Kiev is certainly not surprising but what happened to Maccabi Tel Aviv was really unexpected. In fact, I think they are one of the promising participants in every Champions League qualification and this time they had to be eliminated first after Petrocub beat them with a score of 0-1 and made Petrocub win with an aggregate of 1-2.
Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
I was also surprised by the performance of Maccabi Tel Aviv I thought they would qualify for the next round because when playing away they were able to equalize the score should have played at home it would have been easier for them to give attacks to their opponents but instead they were defeated at home this must have been very disappointing for their fans who expected a win, I myself did not choose one of them to win but at least I predict both teams to score but unfortunately it did not match my prediction. Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
If we know that Maccabi Tel Aviv cannot win at home then we can bet on Petrocub but sometimes it is also so doubtful when a team is not familiar with the wider competition in the champions league. Well, I think with results like this it makes our betting experience increase and sometimes everything has to be in the right portion so as not to lose money in betting.
Well , the fact that Israel teams cannot play their home games on home soil , make the game difficult for them because basically both games are being played in away and that will affect the team no matter how great the players are. We saw this with Maccabi ( where FCSB managed to score and qualified further ) and we also saw this in Europa League with Petach Ticva but we almost saw Haifa being eliminated in Conference but lucky for them managed to qualify at penalties. So yea , overall , it's not a great with for Israel football clubs when it comes to European competitions.
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Bayern Munich has a strong tradition of winning the Bundesliga title, i agree that previously they were unlucky because the performance shown by Bayer Leverkusen continued to improve in every match. Harry Kane's curse is not a real thing, there is no such thing in football, i never believed in it. In the next season with Bayern Munich, i'm sure Harry Kane will get at least 1 trophy, at least the DFB Pokal.The Harry Kane curse is still just a myth, there is no certainty that Bayern Munich failure was caused by the curse of Harry Kane who has difficulty winning titles. If Bayern Munich form does not decline under Tuchel management, perhaps Harry Kane will win his first title.
The victory of Bodo Glimt, Midtjylland or even Dynamo Kiev is certainly not surprising but what happened to Maccabi Tel Aviv was really unexpected. In fact, I think they are one of the promising participants in every Champions League qualification and this time they had to be eliminated first after Petrocub beat them with a score of 0-1 and made Petrocub win with an aggregate of 1-2.
Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
I was also surprised by the performance of Maccabi Tel Aviv I thought they would qualify for the next round because when playing away they were able to equalize the score should have played at home it would have been easier for them to give attacks to their opponents but instead they were defeated at home this must have been very disappointing for their fans who expected a win, I myself did not choose one of them to win but at least I predict both teams to score but unfortunately it did not match my prediction. Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
If we know that Maccabi Tel Aviv cannot win at home then we can bet on Petrocub but sometimes it is also so doubtful when a team is not familiar with the wider competition in the champions league. Well, I think with results like this it makes our betting experience increase and sometimes everything has to be in the right portion so as not to lose money in betting.
A new season will start in a few days where like every season Real Madrid Manchester City and Bayern Munich are placed at the top of the list of favorite teams. I think everyone will agree with me because there is probably no stronger team in Europe than these three teams so any one of these three teams is going to win the Champions League title next season. If any other team comes up in your prediction then you can discuss that too.
You must be kidding me. I agree that Real Madrid and City are the top favorites due to the fact that they dominate their domestic leagues and have a very good squad depth. But why do you put Munich between them and claim that Munich is the top three favorites to win the UCL this season? I think even Dortmund and PSG are better than Munich. I would put Munich as the favorite to win the title after some other strong teams such as Madrid, City, PSG, Arsenal or Inter Milan.Bayern Munich has a strong tradition of winning the Bundesliga title, i agree that previously they were unlucky because the performance shown by Bayer Leverkusen continued to improve in every match. Harry Kane's curse is not a real thing, there is no such thing in football, i never believed in it. In the next season with Bayern Munich, i'm sure Harry Kane will get at least 1 trophy, at least the DFB Pokal.
I don't believe in curses actually. Kane is a great striker but unfortunately he always fails to win trophies. I doubt this season Munich will win the Bundesliga. They have a new coach and I see Kompany has not proven anything. I need to watch some games to see if Kompany can really make Munich back into a title contender. 
Bayern Munich has a strong tradition of winning the Bundesliga title, i agree that previously they were unlucky because the performance shown by Bayer Leverkusen continued to improve in every match. Harry Kane's curse is not a real thing, there is no such thing in football, i never believed in it. In the next season with Bayern Munich, i'm sure Harry Kane will get at least 1 trophy, at least the DFB Pokal.
DFB Pokal is just a cheeseburger trophy, Harry Kane isn't a player that never get trophy, he won Torneio Internacional Algarve U17. What most people expect is he need to become a champion in domestic league.I'm not really sure if curse isn't a real thing because we all know how Bayern Munich dominate the league and how good Harry Kane is, but Bayern Munich winning streak is gone after Kane's arrive.
I speculate that Bayern Munich will not become a champion in this season.
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[...] Luck will be on their side next season or the 2024/2025 season to take back the Bundesliga title from Bayer Leverkusen even though some people doubt Vincent Kompany.Bayern Munich has a strong tradition of winning the Bundesliga title, i agree that previously they were unlucky because the performance shown by Bayer Leverkusen continued to improve in every match. Harry Kane's curse is not a real thing, there is no such thing in football, i never believed in it. In the next season with Bayern Munich, i'm sure Harry Kane will get at least 1 trophy, at least the DFB Pokal.
Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.
Because the load is a question mark, then for me it is not necessarily true regarding Harry Kane who has never won a title. What I mean is not because of Tottenham Hotspur, Kane failed to win the championship trophy. Kane's curse will end with Bayern Munich even though last season as his first season he still couldn't lift the trophy.
Last season before Vincent Kompany was appointed as head coach, Kane and his friends were unlucky, both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League.
Luck will be on their side next season or the 2024/2025 season to take back the Bundesliga title from Bayer Leverkusen even though some people doubt Vincent Kompany.
The victory of Bodo Glimt, Midtjylland or even Dynamo Kiev is certainly not surprising but what happened to Maccabi Tel Aviv was really unexpected. In fact, I think they are one of the promising participants in every Champions League qualification and this time they had to be eliminated first after Petrocub beat them with a score of 0-1 and made Petrocub win with an aggregate of 1-2.
Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
I was also surprised by the performance of Maccabi Tel Aviv I thought they would qualify for the next round because when playing away they were able to equalize the score should have played at home it would have been easier for them to give attacks to their opponents but instead they were defeated at home this must have been very disappointing for their fans who expected a win, I myself did not choose one of them to win but at least I predict both teams to score but unfortunately it did not match my prediction. Even though Maccabi Tel Aviv played as the host in the second leg, they were the ones who were under pressure in front of their own fans. There is a good thing that I can avoid from this match because previously I wanted to include Maccabi Tel Aviv in the bet but luckily I didn't continue it and I think this is the right decision because it makes me more aware that anything can still happen even though the underdog team can win in the end.
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