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Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 10, 2024, 10:13:01 AM

Real Madrid have lost points in the previous match, so playing at home is a fixed price for Los Blancos, of course in the next match Madrid need points so as not to continue to lag behind.

While Dortmund are still in first place with the most goals scored... and we already know how the previous final match they have met maybe history will repeat itself where Real Madrid will win at home.

In my opinion, this match will still be won by Real Madrid, there are many reasons, one of which is as you said after losing points in the previous match of course Real Madrid will work extra hard in this match to get points. In addition, what makes me sure is because in the Real Madrid squad there are players like Jude who already understand Dortmund's game very well, and again Real Madrid has a good history when facing representatives of the German league, especially with Dortmund which was very impressive in the Champion final last season Real Madrid easily defeated Dortmund.

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For the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match... Haven't analyzed it yet... I'd like to see it after the international break... Why could one of them be injured that could affect the game.

The international break will certainly change many predictions not only for Barcelona and Barcelona but other teams will also be affected if there are players from one of the teams who are injured. But so far if it can be predicted it seems that Barcelona is superior because Barcelona has Flick who is a former Bayern Munich coach, he certainly understands what he has to do to face his former club, especially this match will be played at Camp Nou. Kompany at Bayern Munich has not been tested in his capacity to coach a club as big as Bayern Munich. in the last match he actually lost to a team that could be said in terms of quality below Bayern Munich, namely Aston Villa.

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Quote from: hahay on October 10, 2024, 11:04:24 AM

Even though Real Madrid will play at home, I personally still believe that Dortmund still has the strength not to lose at this moment. Thus, I believe a draw is possible in this match and not only that, because it seems that I am personally more confident about Dortmund who might make a surprise by beating Real Madrid. Indeed, based on the odds currently available, Real Madrid is highly favored to win, because the current odds for Real Madrid @ 1.48 and for Dortmund @ 5.75, Real Madrid is clearly the favorite team to win, but I am not sure Real Madrid will win.

Dortmund's performance so far is still quite good even when talking about matches in the Champions League in the last 2 weeks of course Dortmund is one of the most solid clubs at the moment so Dortmund's chance is clearly still there.
But playing at home with the pressure to win and the quality of players who are not bad, of course at this time Madrid is clearly the favorite which is really the case so even though Dortmund is strong and has an equally large chance, I want to see Madrid get 3 points in this match.

This is an important situation to do for Madrid because apart from stabilizing the position in the standings, this match can also make their mentality even more improved before the El Clasico match in domestic competition so that Madrid with the current favorite must be maximized well for week 3 later.

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Such talks have been made before the start of the season, it would be foolish for PSG to regret their squad now. They have seen that earlier with good quality players they could not compete hard with other teams in the Champions League so this season without good quality players how can they compete against the big teams in a tournament like the Champions League. At the beginning of the season I discussed this team that PSG will not do very well in the Champions League tournament. With PSG's current performance, there are doubts about them winning the league title. But if PSG is satisfied with this performance, we have to accept it.

PSG is only one of the top teams in the Champions League every season, but they are not a team with a good mentality as expected. They were in the Champions League final and one step away from winning it, but they failed. This season is no different from previous seasons, they are a strong team but not a team that is expected to win the title. If any team is expected to win the title, it is Real Madrid or Manchester City.

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Quote from: hahay on October 10, 2024, 11:04:24 AM

Even though Real Madrid will play at home, I personally still believe that Dortmund still has the strength not to lose at this moment. Thus, I believe a draw is possible in this match and not only that, because it seems that I am personally more confident about Dortmund who might make a surprise by beating Real Madrid. Indeed, based on the odds currently available, Real Madrid is highly favored to win, because the current odds for Real Madrid @ 1.48 and for Dortmund @ 5.75, Real Madrid is clearly the favorite team to win, but I am not sure Real Madrid will win.

Even though I don’t know the reason, and the kind of confidence you have in Dortmund that makes you think they will beat Real Madrid is kind of a surprise to me. And the Champions League is different from other competitions. We are thinking, forget the odds; it shows that Real Madrid are going to win, but you still did not believe me, so I’m telling you Real Madrid are going to win Dortmund.

Or draw the game but not Dortmund winning them. The next match is very important to Real Madrid; they have been losing some points for the past matches, so they will definitely do everything to get the full point in this match. And again Real Madrid will be playing at home.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 09, 2024, 06:07:58 PM

For Barcelona vs Bayern München,

The H2H is clear, Bayern Munich get more victories than Barcelona. and even Barcelona always seems to have difficulty when facing Bayern Munich. It's just that, look at the current conditions, Lewandowski as the top scorer in Bayern Munich at that time is now in Barcelona, as well as Hansi Flcik, in Barcelona's position. While for now, Bayern Munich is still adapting to Kompany. So I think, this time, Barcelona might be leading.

Bayern Munich isn't adapting to Vincent Kompany, he has already started very well at his new job and scoring lots of goals too as they win. There's no other club that has outscored Bayern Munich since Vincent Kompany took over management. He has had some few bad games recently but he'll recover soon. Barcelona has so many things to proven as this is going to be a test for them and for them to show that they can play well too in the champions league. Barcelona hasn't won Bayern Munich in any of their most recent games and it's going to be a challenge for them to win. The game might end in a draw but Bayern Munich wouldn't want that to be the result.

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Quote from: iamsange on October 10, 2024, 04:28:39 AM

The defense condition of the Bayern Munich team is indeed not good because after I traced all the players who strengthened Bayern Munich this season, it turned out that there were seven players who were injured and five of them were in the center and right back positions. While the other two are in the wing and attacking midfielder positions so that this could certainly be very beneficial for Barcelona besides the match that will be played is also at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona should not be happy about this because in the Champions League, even the slightest mistake can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole.

Sometimes teams have a bad luck because if one defender is injured, you can replace them with a bench player, but usually other defenders have to work more to cover the difference, which makes them injured too and it keeps rolling more and more. This is what happened to Bayern and we are still going to see them get mostly wins because group stages is nothing for them, they are too good for group stages.

We may have seen them lose to Villa, which was a shock, but not going to mean much considering how they are going to end up with a win and another and another and eventually be out of the group stages. They are candidates for first eight as well, maybe not looking great with Villa loss, but I bet they have a chance to finish within first eight as well. There aren't 8 teams better than Bayern in UCL right now, so if they fail to be there, this would mean they didn't do as good as they should, and this would result with them not having a good result at all.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on October 10, 2024, 11:36:15 AM

How can they be satisfied with a performance that will not earn them any trophy in the end, it is unlike any club and no any of the club will settle for less in this case. PSG needs to pay more attention to winning games by taking total control of the game. They should try and earn all three points with smaller teams and at least get a draw when they face with big teams. If they can patch up and continue in this form, they’ll reach higher rounds and make it a easier challenge for them going forward.

PSG cares a lot about the UCL trophy and at the moment it is an achievement that they have not achieved, it will be very difficult, unlike the competition they participate in in their domestic league. PSG is the king in League 1 but UCL is on a different level, their competitors are strong teams, stable play and high mentality are needed so far in my opinion they are not so stable, still remember the defeat against arsenal, they can come back with ball possession but in attack they do not look sharp, that is what Luis Enrique must fix if he wants to continue to advance.
And in the next match PSG will host PSV which we know is under PSG, 3 points can certainly be pocketed, I believe that to enter the last 8 phase PSG can achieve it but only up to that point.

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Quote from: Pandorak on October 10, 2024, 02:05:48 AM

If we refer to the current standings, maybe the champion this season is not from the three teams you mentioned. Because the top 7 teams that have collected perfect points so far are Borussia Dortmund, Brest, Benfica, Leverkusen, Liverpool, Aston Villa & Juventus. But we also need to remember that the 3 teams you mentioned are not ordinary teams, they can make a surprise at any time with the squad they have.

I'm not surprised at all seeing those clubs who are topping from the second position to the seventh position of the champions league table because some season are like that but however if someone that doesn't have an idea on how these clubs performs would come to the conclusion that one of those will emerge as the champions League winner at the end without knowing that the lions of the league are still on the lower position of the table setting themselves to shoot to the first position, so actually before two months time those clubs occupying those positions will be lower down but for Borussia Dortmund even if they leave the first position they will not easily reduce themselves to the fourth position yet.

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Quote from: bastisisca on October 10, 2024, 11:28:57 AM

In my opinion, the Barcelona match will be a good match. I am convinced that they can both put on a show and that they will do so given that both are very strong teams.
Some might say that Barcelona is not the same of the past, but if you see Barcelona has a striker with 10 goals in La Liga, i want say he is very well and in form.

Barcelona may have a striker than can score many goals in the La Liga and if they can’t do the same in the Champions League, then it is just a waste of hope on such player. Barcelona are good and we can see that from the start of the season and also the position they stand on the table, also their opponent, Bayern Munich are also in a good form and they can also give them a tough time winning the match. This is going to be an interesting match , no doubt about that and I hope both teams gives in their best in this game.

Quote from: Lidger on October 10, 2024, 10:44:59 AM

Such talks have been made before the start of the season, it would be foolish for PSG to regret their squad now. They have seen that earlier with good quality players they could not compete hard with other teams in the Champions League so this season without good quality players how can they compete against the big teams in a tournament like the Champions League. At the beginning of the season I discussed this team that PSG will not do very well in the Champions League tournament. With PSG's current performance, there are doubts about them winning the league title. But if PSG is satisfied with this performance, we have to accept it.

How can they be satisfied with a performance that will not earn them any trophy in the end, it is unlike any club and no any of the club will settle for less in this case. PSG needs to pay more attention to winning games by taking total control of the game. They should try and earn all three points with smaller teams and at least get a draw when they face with big teams. If they can patch up and continue in this form, they’ll reach higher rounds and make it a easier challenge for them going forward.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 10, 2024, 10:54:57 AM

Currently the journey to the round of 16 is still very far so anything can happen in their next 6 matches, so far Manchester City and Munich have only won one match and one draw, while the worse thing happened to Madrid with one win and also one defeat, but considering their ability, experience and mentality so far in the UCL, of course the three teams still have a great chance to qualify for the round of 16, the semi-phase round of the UCL league this season gives us a lot of surprises where some big teams actually have to lose to small teams so indeed the new format of the Champions League gives a slightly different nuance, Team Teams such as Madrid, Manchester City and Munich have always had high targets and that clearly puts a burden on the coaches, especially with the change in the current UCL format actually having an impact on their player injuries because indeed they have a busy schedule their to face.

6 weeks is indeed very big and I'm optimistic the 3 teams that are not yet in the table will get to the round of 16. I haven't watch a season where Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich never get into the round of 16 except for Barcelona one time, they always make their way in and you see the top teams on that table can't win all their next 4 matches, so expect some rotation because right now the points are too close as there aren't many match played yet.

A total of 6 matches is equal to 18 points, if we add that number to the first guy in the top of the table, that's going to be 21 points and is it even possible to play all of that matches without losing any match, it's very possible but only few will make it but I must say I'm very please with this arrange of the table, the 8 survivors will make it to the next, 9 to 24 can still battle for play off and 8 will be qualified again and the rest will go home unlike then where 4 teams played and despite high points, some are not carried along.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 10, 2024, 02:40:38 AM

I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.

In my opinion, the Barcelona match will be a good match. I am convinced that they can both put on a show and that they will do so given that both are very strong teams.
Some might say that Barcelona is not the same of the past, but if you see Barcelona has a striker with 10 goals in La Liga, i want say he is very well and in form.

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 10, 2024, 10:13:01 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 10, 2024, 02:40:38 AM

I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.

Real Madrid have lost points in the previous match, so playing at home is a fixed price for Los Blancos, of course in the next match Madrid need points so as not to continue to lag behind.

While Dortmund are still in first place with the most goals scored... and we already know how the previous final match they have met maybe history will repeat itself where Real Madrid will win at home.
For the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match... Haven't analyzed it yet... I'd like to see it after the international break... Why could one of them be injured that could affect the game.

Even though Real Madrid will play at home, I personally still believe that Dortmund still has the strength not to lose at this moment. Thus, I believe a draw is possible in this match and not only that, because it seems that I am personally more confident about Dortmund who might make a surprise by beating Real Madrid. Indeed, based on the odds currently available, Real Madrid is highly favored to win, because the current odds for Real Madrid @ 1.48 and for Dortmund @ 5.75, Real Madrid is clearly the favorite team to win, but I am not sure Real Madrid will win.

Indeed, it is very risky if I still choose Dortmund in this match, but at least whatever the result can still happen and there is still no full guarantee for Real Madrid to win. Regarding the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, I think Barcelona has a better chance of winning, because I am still confident that Barcelona under Hansi Flick is able to play with good results even though they are playing against other a seeded team too.

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Only two matches have been played in the Champions League and the three teams Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern will definitely qualify to the round of 16 where only the strongest will survive to the next round. Real Madrid don't always take their group matches that serious but become more serious from the round of 16 on.

They are big clubs, have good tradition, and currently have good squads too, so logically they have good chance to move to a next phase of Champions League. But I never say they will definitely be qualified for a next phase, only based on their quality on the paper assessment. In sports, football in particular, performances on field in actual matches are more important than any paper assessment.

They did not have good starts in Champions League but many matches left in group phase, and they can use these matches to come back, and avoid nightmare of being disqualified too early, after the group phase. Nightmare like that, will cost them a lot in finance and their head coaches will very likely sacked.

Currently the journey to the round of 16 is still very far so anything can happen in their next 6 matches, so far Manchester City and Munich have only won one match and one draw, while the worse thing happened to Madrid with one win and also one defeat, but considering their ability, experience and mentality so far in the UCL, of course the three teams still have a great chance to qualify for the round of 16, the semi-phase round of the UCL league this season gives us a lot of surprises where some big teams actually have to lose to small teams so indeed the new format of the Champions League gives a slightly different nuance, Team Teams such as Madrid, Manchester City and Munich have always had high targets and that clearly puts a burden on the coaches, especially with the change in the current UCL format actually having an impact on their player injuries because indeed they have a busy schedule their to face.

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The defense condition of the Bayern Munich team is indeed not good because after I traced all the players who strengthened Bayern Munich this season, it turned out that there were seven players who were injured and five of them were in the center and right back positions. While the other two are in the wing and attacking midfielder positions so that this could certainly be very beneficial for Barcelona besides the match that will be played is also at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona should not be happy about this because in the Champions League, even the slightest mistake can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole.

The situation that Bayern Munich is currently experiencing is certainly very beneficial for Barcelona, especially since Hansi Flick can now play several key players who were previously in the treatment room. The sharpness of Barcelona's front line in breaking through the opponent's goal is also a big threat for Bayern Munich, Kompany must be able to anticipate surprises from Barcelona who are in their best form. The factor of playing at Camp Nou and Hansi Flick's career history as a former Bayern Munich coach makes them more favored in this match.

Such talks have been made before the start of the season, it would be foolish for PSG to regret their squad now. They have seen that earlier with good quality players they could not compete hard with other teams in the Champions League so this season without good quality players how can they compete against the big teams in a tournament like the Champions League. At the beginning of the season I discussed this team that PSG will not do very well in the Champions League tournament. With PSG's current performance, there are doubts about them winning the league title. But if PSG is satisfied with this performance, we have to accept it.

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Quote from: Antotena on October 10, 2024, 09:07:42 AM

I hope you can still remember in 2022/23 season, Inter made it to the final with Manchester City and if not for saving grace, City would have lost that match that day because they won the match with 1 goal to ni after huge pressure, it was that performance that made Manchester United to sign Andre Onana till date because of his performance in the Champions League. Sometimes, the things you don't see coming get at you in Champions League.

Even last season can be another testimony because Dortmond make it to the final but been defeated by Real Madrid.
The last two season you were talking about was a season to remember because Manchester City passed through a lot of tough matches before making it to the final, while Inter was lucky with most of the opponents they faced along the line, but it was a good final I must say because Manchester City were very lucky to have won due to high number of chances missed by Lukaku and Martinez of Inter Milan then.

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I believe there wouldn't be a sweet Champions League without Manchester City and Real Madrid but right now, Real Madrid are not even in good health and they can't perform to their optimum level but I can vouch for Manchester City and Barcelona are right now on hot journey to make some trophy. I don't know for Arsenal but I am neutral for them for now and Liverpool might do well in the long run.

The champions league can be competitive even without Manchester City because they don't have enough record in the champions league as Madrid, that is why the absence of Madrid in the competition might look strange, and I don't think it will happen because they do always made it to the champions league.

On the journey of wining the champions league this season, I am considering many teams because of the performances we have seen so far.
Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Manchester City, Barcelona, Arsenal, and Inter Milan. I didn't add Madrid because I know that they are already the favorites to win the competition, but their team's performance is not up to standard this season which I think they will not go far in the champions league this season.

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 10, 2024, 09:22:14 AM

Only two matches have been played in the Champions League and the three teams Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern will definitely qualify to the round of 16 where only the strongest will survive to the next round. Real Madrid don't always take their group matches that serious but become more serious from the round of 16 on.

They are big clubs, have good tradition, and currently have good squads too, so logically they have good chance to move to a next phase of Champions League. But I never say they will definitely be qualified for a next phase, only based on their quality on the paper assessment. In sports, football in particular, performances on field in actual matches are more important than any paper assessment.

They did not have good starts in Champions League but many matches left in group phase, and they can use these matches to come back, and avoid nightmare of being disqualified too early, after the group phase. Nightmare like that, will cost them a lot in finance and their head coaches will very likely sacked.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 10, 2024, 02:40:38 AM

I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.

Real Madrid have lost points in the previous match, so playing at home is a fixed price for Los Blancos, of course in the next match Madrid need points so as not to continue to lag behind.

While Dortmund are still in first place with the most goals scored... and we already know how the previous final match they have met maybe history will repeat itself where Real Madrid will win at home.
For the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match... Haven't analyzed it yet... I'd like to see it after the international break... Why could one of them be injured that could affect the game.

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Quote from: Pandorak on October 10, 2024, 02:05:48 AM

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Guys, what do you think about this season? Do you think we will see an unusual club making it to the CL title? Or will it be one of the clubs among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich? Huh

Yeah I'm considering all the remaining clubs as unusual or whatever you can call it. Because if you have noticed for quite many years, these clubs have been stepping forward. Especially the king of the competition Real Madrid. Grin

This year, I see Arsenal being given more chance than Bayern Munich for the title for example. They would be pretty unusual considering they have 0 CL titles achieved.

However I feel like once again one of the 3 clubs I mentioned at the beginning will win it again.

If we refer to the current standings, maybe the champion this season is not from the three teams you mentioned. Because the top 7 teams that have collected perfect points so far are Borussia Dortmund, Brest, Benfica, Leverkusen, Liverpool, Aston Villa & Juventus. But we also need to remember that the 3 teams you mentioned are not ordinary teams, they can make a surprise at any time with the squad they have.

Only two matches have been played in the Champions League and the three teams Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern will definitely qualify to the round of 16 where only the strongest will survive to the next round. Real Madrid don't always take their group matches that serious but become more serious from the round of 16 on.

It is Bayern and Manchester City that I know do take all their matches very serious and i you are a weak team; they can humiliate you without mercy just like what Bayern did in their first match. I believe that these two clubs apart from Bayern will win their next match because Bayern is playing with a strong opponent Barcelona.

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Quote from: Pandorak on October 10, 2024, 02:05:48 AM

If we refer to the current standings, maybe the champion this season is not from the three teams you mentioned. Because the top 7 teams that have collected perfect points so far are Borussia Dortmund, Brest, Benfica, Leverkusen, Liverpool, Aston Villa & Juventus. But we also need to remember that the 3 teams you mentioned are not ordinary teams, they can make a surprise at any time with the squad they have.

I hope you can still remember in 2022/23 season, Inter made it to the final with Manchester City and if not for saving grace, City would have lost that match that day because they won the match with 1 goal to ni after huge pressure, it was that performance that made Manchester United to sign Andre Onana till date because of his performance in the Champions League. Sometimes, the things you don't see coming get at you in Champions League.

I believe there wouldn't be a sweet Champions League without Manchester City and Real Madrid but right now, Real Madrid are not even in good health and they can't perform to their optimum level but I can vouch for Manchester City and Barcelona are right now on hot journey to make some trophy. I don't know for Arsenal but I am neutral for them for now and Liverpool might do well in the long run.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 09, 2024, 06:07:58 PM

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The H2H is clear, Bayern Munich get more victories than Barcelona. and even Barcelona always seems to have difficulty when facing Bayern Munich.

It's just that, look at the current conditions, Lewandowski as the top scorer in Bayern Munich at that time is now in Barcelona, as well as Hansi Flcik, in Barcelona's position. While for now, Bayern Munich is still adapting to Kompany. So I think, this time, Barcelona might be leading.

For me H2H can indeed be a reference for us to predict the results of the match. But the problem is the two teams actually have the same advantages and disadvantages.
Bayern Munich has a weakness in the defense despite having a strong attacking player but it will not be equal to what is expected and can provide an opportunity for Barcelona to provide resistance.
While Barcelona does have Lewandowski but also has a little problem with the goalkeeper who is absent and can have a bad impact because of Ter Stegen one of the best goalkeepers today.

So that in the upcoming matches there will only be 2 possibilities between Munich winning or ending in a draw.

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