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August 03, 2024, 04:24:38 AM
Yep, Bayern could win the Bundesliga next season if Leverkusen's performance is not the same as the previous season.
Leverkusen's strategy is starting to be read by his opponents, at the end of the 2023/2024 season Leverkusen almost lost several times.
I'm pretty sure Bayern can win the Bundesliga in the next season but not with the UCL, Madrid and Mancity will still be the clubs that dominate and win the UCL.
For Kane, he still has 3 years left on his contract with Bayern - soon or later he will definitely win some trophies with Bayern.
Leverkusen may like not get any below their former performance and the success of Bayern Munich is in no way dependent on the performance of Leverkusen, they should rather be focused on themselves, if they win all their bundesliga league games, there's almost no way they are not going to win the league title except Leverkusen wins all their own games aswell which is not possible, only one team can win all of their games and you will ask how, of Bayern Munich wins all their bundesliga league games, it will  include the one they will be playing against Leverkusen which will mean that Leverkusen lost that game and that can serve as the point difference that will get Munich winning the title as against Leverkusen.
First Leverkusen often almost lost at the end of last season because they had already locked the title, so they could play without any burden and maybe they were not focused on getting a win, because in fact they also did some rotations at that time. Although I also agree that Leverkusen's opponents next season will be very alert and they will start reading more deeply to face Leverkusen's strategy. Second, I agree with you that Bayern Munich does not depend at all on Leverkusen's performance, they must focus on themselves. When Leverkusen can maintain a good performance like last season, but if Bayern Munich can perform better than them then the title will be won again by Bayern Munich. So they should not look at what other teams can do, but they must bring out the best abilities they have.
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August 03, 2024, 03:48:45 AM
Yep, Bayern could win the Bundesliga next season if Leverkusen's performance is not the same as the previous season.
Leverkusen's strategy is starting to be read by his opponents, at the end of the 2023/2024 season Leverkusen almost lost several times.
I'm pretty sure Bayern can win the Bundesliga in the next season but not with the UCL, Madrid and Mancity will still be the clubs that dominate and win the UCL.
For Kane, he still has 3 years left on his contract with Bayern - soon or later he will definitely win some trophies with Bayern.

Everybody expecting Bayern Leverkusen to fall off next season but I don't see things that way. I honestly feel like they can win the Bundesliga back to back.
I happens... Even at the end of it all, they Bayern Leverkusen finally lost to Atalanta during the European Europa League Competition Finals.
But in the Bundesliga will be more different if you ask me truthfully. Xabi Alonso is a better manager than Vincent Kompany, I don't see him beating Xabi Alonso to the Bundesliga this year too.

The Champions League Competition is a tough call, this would be his first Champions League debut as a manager so he'll enjoy and try to get the best out if it. Hopefully Harry Kane wins something before he retires. Would be sad to see such great player winning nothing.
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DFB Pokal is just a cheeseburger trophy, Harry Kane isn't a player that never get trophy, he won Torneio Internacional Algarve U17. What most people expect is he need to become a champion in domestic league.

I'm not really sure if curse isn't a real thing because we all know how Bayern Munich dominate the league and how good Harry Kane is, but Bayern Munich winning streak is gone after Kane's arrive.

I speculate that Bayern Munich will not become a champion in this season.

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Everyone has the right to say whether Harry Kane's curse is true or not, because the accusation is not groundless, as you said, since Harry Kane's arrival, Bayern Munich has lost its tradition of winning streaks.

But for me, it's just a myth, there is nothing like that in football, would you dare to bet with me on who will be the Bundesliga champion?

To prove whether your words or mine are correct, of course i will choose Bayern Munich, just set the odds, call anyone who wants to be an escrow for our bet.
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August 02, 2024, 06:12:55 PM
Yep, Bayern could win the Bundesliga next season if Leverkusen's performance is not the same as the previous season.
Leverkusen's strategy is starting to be read by his opponents, at the end of the 2023/2024 season Leverkusen almost lost several times.
I'm pretty sure Bayern can win the Bundesliga in the next season but not with the UCL, Madrid and Mancity will still be the clubs that dominate and win the UCL.
For Kane, he still has 3 years left on his contract with Bayern - soon or later he will definitely win some trophies with Bayern.
Leverkusen may like not get any below their former performance and the success of Bayern Munich is in no way dependent on the performance of Leverkusen, they should rather be focused on themselves, if they win all their bundesliga league games, there's almost no way they are not going to win the league title except Leverkusen wins all their own games aswell which is not possible, only one team can win all of their games and you will ask how, of Bayern Munich wins all their bundesliga league games, it will  include the one they will be playing against Leverkusen which will mean that Leverkusen lost that game and that can serve as the point difference that will get Munich winning the title as against Leverkusen.
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August 02, 2024, 06:02:31 PM
Such a curse does not exist but it cannot be denied that Kane still seems to be hit by bad luck.
Many opportunities to get trophies, not only at club level but also at international level for his country, it's just that he still hasn't been able to realize that which makes Kane stay without a title even though his performance is extraordinary.

Can't blame Kane completely either because for his performance at Bayern last season he was very good and even became the top scorer in the first season, it was clear that he was a decent player, it's just that his bad luck doesn't stop because it is precisely with his slick performance until now that he still hasn't given an expected achievement.
This season he will try again at Bayern with the probability of winning still very strong for now but there is no guarantee that he can get the trophy only that his hopes are great this season especially after last season failed and was overtaken by Leverkusen.
The curse or whatever it is is of course very appropriate to assume for Harry Kane because he is an attacker who has succeeded in showing his skill in scoring many goals but unfortunately he always fails to bring the team he plays for to become champions.
In my opinion, too, if this season he fails to win another trophy then he will be cursed not to win a prestigious trophy in his career. But I hope that's not true because Bayern Munich is a pretty strong team, of course this season they are very favorites to become champions.
It would be a different story if he had an injury that hampered him, but that didn't happen to him, so the Bayern Munich squad this season must be able to work together to win a trophy that can be awarded to Harry Kane.
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August 02, 2024, 05:47:47 PM
I don't believe in curses actually. Kane is a great striker but unfortunately he always fails to win trophies. I doubt this season Munich will win the Bundesliga. They have a new coach and I see Kompany has not proven anything. I need to watch some games to see if Kompany can really make Munich back into a title contender.
Kane is good and a talented striker in that matter, but the thing is, I think if a player is good, he also needs a good team to play for before he can recognize it, and right now, we can't say Bayern Munich is not because they deformed in one season; they have been doing well in the Bundesliga competition. Kompany can also do well next season, even though we are still yet to see the prove, but if we look at Bayern Munich players mentality, we will know that they are still strong and things will change for the better.
Yep, Bayern could win the Bundesliga next season if Leverkusen's performance is not the same as the previous season.
Leverkusen's strategy is starting to be read by his opponents,

at the end of the 2023/2024 season Leverkusen almost lost several times.
I'm pretty sure Bayern can win the Bundesliga in the next season but not with the UCL, Madrid and Mancity will still be the clubs that dominate and win the UCL.
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Kane, he still has 3 years left on his contract with Bayern - soon or later he will definitely win some trophies with Bayern.
This is not enough reason to conclude that they won't do well this season, before then their major aim was to achieve the Bundesliga title and that of Europa cup trophy and unfortunately for them they failed to deliver at final, however at that time they have given their very best that season and the reason for the players to have gotten very much exhausted was on it highest level.

So far that no much changes is done to the team, they're currently the favourite team to win until proven wrong. they played unbeaten before they lifted their league title and they lost the final game at Europa competition, that's a lot of energy and effort that must have been put in by the team.
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August 02, 2024, 05:43:39 PM

I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.


Such a curse does not exist but it cannot be denied that Kane still seems to be hit by bad luck.
Many opportunities to get trophies, not only at club level but also at international level for his country, it's just that he still hasn't been able to realize that which makes Kane stay without a title even though his performance is extraordinary.

Can't blame Kane completely either because for his performance at Bayern last season he was very good and even became the top scorer in the first season, it was clear that he was a decent player, it's just that his bad luck doesn't stop because it is precisely with his slick performance until now that he still hasn't given an expected achievement.
This season he will try again at Bayern with the probability of winning still very strong for now but there is no guarantee that he can get the trophy only that his hopes are great this season especially after last season failed and was overtaken by Leverkusen.
 
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August 02, 2024, 05:32:57 PM
I don't believe in curses actually. Kane is a great striker but unfortunately he always fails to win trophies. I doubt this season Munich will win the Bundesliga. They have a new coach and I see Kompany has not proven anything. I need to watch some games to see if Kompany can really make Munich back into a title contender.
Kane is good and a talented striker in that matter, but the thing is, I think if a player is good, he also needs a good team to play for before he can recognize it, and right now, we can't say Bayern Munich is not because they deformed in one season; they have been doing well in the Bundesliga competition. Kompany can also do well next season, even though we are still yet to see the prove, but if we look at Bayern Munich players mentality, we will know that they are still strong and things will change for the better.
Yep, Bayern could win the Bundesliga next season if Leverkusen's performance is not the same as the previous season.
Leverkusen's strategy is starting to be read by his opponents, at the end of the 2023/2024 season Leverkusen almost lost several times.
I'm pretty sure Bayern can win the Bundesliga in the next season but not with the UCL, Madrid and Mancity will still be the clubs that dominate and win the UCL.
For Kane, he still has 3 years left on his contract with Bayern - soon or later he will definitely win some trophies with Bayern.
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August 02, 2024, 05:27:58 PM
I think this so called curse is just a story, I don't even know who it's aimed at. Obviously it's bollocks, because Kane scored a lot not only last season for Bayern but also as a Tottenham player, he's quite stable and still hasn't gone backwards, so it's clearly not him and his curse that's the problem, because Bayern didn't look their best last season as a whole
Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.
This story about the curse of a quality player is aimed at children. If he had a curse on him (which generally don't exist) he wouldn't be playing at such a high level, he is a player who has been top scorer many times. Bayern's problems started last season when Lewandowski left and they didn't have a good striker. They barely won the season then, and with Kane coming in, their problems gradually started to dissipate.
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August 02, 2024, 05:19:57 PM
UCL is nothing like the leagues, while Real does win the La Liga quite commonly and also gets the UCL, we are talking about all other teams in the world. Just because you may dominate Serie A doesn't mean you will get any good at UCL, or just because you destroy everyone at ligue 1 doesn't mean you will do any good at UCL neither, same goes Bundesliga and Bayern, they managed to win once during their ten year tenure dominating the whole league.

So, it is clear that leagues don't matter when we are talking about the UCL situation. We can't look at the league and make a prediction based on that. Dortmund sucked at Bundesliga last year, they had no place being the finalist and yet they were and they played fairly well there.
Ate you trying to say that Real Madrid aren't formidable enough to dominate the UEFA Champions League or are you saying that the competition can't be dominated? Lest we forget, Real Madrid once dominated the competition by winning it in three consecutive seasons so I also believe that with the current squad in the team, they can still replicate that same feat. I understand when you say the UCL isn't as easy as every other league because of it's importance and the quality of teams that play in the competition but as far as the competition is concerned, Real Madrid knows gow to dominate and can still repeat their dominance again
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August 02, 2024, 05:08:20 PM
Kane is good and a talented striker in that matter, but the thing is, I think if a player is good, he also needs a good team to play for before he can recognize it, and right now, we can't say Bayern Munich is not because they deformed in one season; they have been doing well in the Bundesliga competition. Kompany can also do well next season, even though we are still yet to see the prove, but if we look at Bayern Munich players mentality, we will know that they are still strong and things will change for the better.

Harry Kane went to Bayern Munich at the wrong time. He needed to win a trophy and the season he came they lose to an unknown team that went unbeaten. He is the most unfortunate player and now they have a new manager. The only thing that can make the season great for Bayern Munich is the players playing with all their minds and trying to take back their throne that was taken from them as they can't just depend on the manager to guild them to victory, the coach is very young and lack experience but if everybody work together, they can win the league as isn't very competitive. Bayern Munich winning the champion league chance reduced when they signed Victor kompany as their manager.
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August 02, 2024, 04:53:40 PM
I don't believe in curses actually. Kane is a great striker but unfortunately he always fails to win trophies. I doubt this season Munich will win the Bundesliga. They have a new coach and I see Kompany has not proven anything. I need to watch some games to see if Kompany can really make Munich back into a title contender.

Kane is good and a talented striker in that matter, but the thing is, I think if a player is good, he also needs a good team to play for before he can recognize it, and right now, we can't say Bayern Munich is not because they deformed in one season; they have been doing well in the Bundesliga competition. Kompany can also do well next season, even though we are still yet to see the prove, but if we look at Bayern Munich players mentality, we will know that they are still strong and things will change for the better.
This season we might get to see Kane win his first trophy, I'm fed up with enough talk whether his cursed or something which I don't find any sense or atom of truth to believe in. Kane has been competitive in terms of goal scoring and efficiency in games even during his time in the Premier League while at Tottenham and now in Bayern nothing seems to change because he still delivers enough goals. One thing is for him to remain consistency, most people get stuffs easily while others have to keep it going untill they get what they longed hoped on achieving. Bayern to win back their Bundesliga title while for Kane winning his first ever trophy, all we hope for coming season.
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August 02, 2024, 04:26:03 PM
I don't believe in curses actually. Kane is a great striker but unfortunately he always fails to win trophies. I doubt this season Munich will win the Bundesliga. They have a new coach and I see Kompany has not proven anything. I need to watch some games to see if Kompany can really make Munich back into a title contender.

Kane is good and a talented striker in that matter, but the thing is, I think if a player is good, he also needs a good team to play for before he can recognize it, and right now, we can't say Bayern Munich is not because they deformed in one season; they have been doing well in the Bundesliga competition. Kompany can also do well next season, even though we are still yet to see the prove, but if we look at Bayern Munich players mentality, we will know that they are still strong and things will change for the better.
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August 02, 2024, 04:14:47 PM
I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.

Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...

Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.

Kane is a good striker and his kind currently are very few. There's no season that he has not been outstanding even while he was in the EPL to when he got to the Bundesliga in Bayern Munich his top scoring ability remained sustained only that he has been very unlucky with winning a trophy. Probably if he should spend more time with Bayern Munich he could win a trophy in the domestic league.
.as for Vincent Kompany he's really saddled with much responsibility and expectations as Bayern Munich coach. And am sure he's aware of the task ahead but am sure he might not win a European trophy with Bayern Munich in his first season but might make success with the domestic league trophy. All things been equal we just want to see Bayern in flying colors at the UCL next season even if they don't win the title.

Kane really deserves a trophy a least because it will be bad after all his goal scoring record then he is unable to win a trophy, he has just proven his scoring ability for Bayern Munich same way he did while at Tottenham but for me if he is not able to win a trophy at Bayern this season he should consider joining other top European clubs like Manchester City, Juventus or PSG so that he can have a chance of winning a title. I just felt for the England striker because he is one player that gives his all for his team even in the just concluded UERO competition, he made a lot of impact and scored goals as well but still not able to win the tournament even after they made it to the finals.
             Vincent Kompany knows that Bayern Munich is a big team so he is already feeling the pressure and fear if he don't make things right for the club because Bayern Munich may not give him a second chance if he is not able to prove himself in the upcoming season so I understand the kind of situation he is facing now that is the reason why I was suggesting that he would have still maintained coaching lower clubs and achieve a recognized level of success before making attempts to Coach a team like Bayern Munich. The team is not in the right position to be tipped to win the UCL so I don't see any magic happening for Bayern Munich.
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The Champions League predictions should be based on team quality and number of their experience players in the squad. It is a competition that is been won by a team that knows exactly how to play football and knows how to make use of their chances without wasting any of their chances which is what Real Madrid is always showing other teams in the Champions League.
Last season, Manchester City was very good and almost have more quality players than Madrid, but Real Madrid eliminated them because they were more experienced than them. They made use of their chances well and letter defend their box just for the result.
Same thing happened against Dortmund in the final match; Dortmund were playing very well and wasted several chances in the first half , but Madrid used the only big chance they had to make the difference in the match.
Therefore, League performance should not be used to predict Champions League.

And you have to imagine that Real Madrid has made some really strong transfers this year and the team will be much stronger next year than last year. I don't see any team in the world that can compete with them (at the moment) and accordingly I believe that Real Madrid will be the clear winner of the CL next year.
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August 02, 2024, 03:54:07 PM
I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.

Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...

Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.

Kane is in the right place I think, the myth people were thinking about him looks real but I still feel that Tottenham is not a good team for him because if he has joined Manchester City or Chelsea throughout his stay in his English Premier League, he could have won the Premier League or any other title throughout his stay in the EPL.

Nevertheless, I think it’s now over since he can now win title with Bayern because I am very sure that Bayern Munich will win trophy next season and Kane will be a great player in the Bundesliga and he will also win individual awards while staying at Munich.
Even Bayern Munich winning the league next is not something that's certain so don't sound it as if they are well rooted enough to win it and besides the change of coach might still affect them negatively or positively depending on how kompany rides and manages this team. For now all I can say about Harry Kane is that he was the one who made the mistakes by not leaving the club like the way Gareth bale did and we all knew what bale achieved with Real Madrid at his time there.
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August 02, 2024, 03:48:44 PM
I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.

Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...

Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.

Kane is a good striker and his kind currently are very few. There's no season that he has not been outstanding even while he was in the EPL to when he got to the Bundesliga in Bayern Munich his top scoring ability remained sustained only that he has been very unlucky with winning a trophy. Probably if he should spend more time with Bayern Munich he could win a trophy in the domestic league.
.as for Vincent Kompany he's really saddled with much responsibility and expectations as Bayern Munich coach. And am sure he's aware of the task ahead but am sure he might not win a European trophy with Bayern Munich in his first season but might make success with the domestic league trophy. All things been equal we just want to see Bayern in flying colors at the UCL next season even if they don't win the title.
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August 02, 2024, 03:38:10 PM
UCL is nothing like the leagues, while Real does win the La Liga quite commonly and also gets the UCL, we are talking about all other teams in the world. Just because you may dominate Serie A doesn't mean you will get any good at UCL, or just because you destroy everyone at ligue 1 doesn't mean you will do any good at UCL neither, same goes Bundesliga and Bayern, they managed to win once during their ten year tenure dominating the whole league.

So, it is clear that leagues don't matter when we are talking about the UCL situation. We can't look at the league and make a prediction based on that. Dortmund sucked at Bundesliga last year, they had no place being the finalist and yet they were and they played fairly well there.
The Champions League predictions should be based on team quality and number of their experience players in the squad. It is a competition that is been won by a team that knows exactly how to play football and knows how to make use of their chances without wasting any of their chances which is what Real Madrid is always showing other teams in the Champions League.
Last season, Manchester City was very good and almost have more quality players than Madrid, but Real Madrid eliminated them because they were more experienced than them. They made use of their chances well and letter defend their box just for the result.
Same thing happened against Dortmund in the final match; Dortmund were playing very well and wasted several chances in the first half , but Madrid used the only big chance they had to make the difference in the match.
Therefore, League performance should not be used to predict Champions League.
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August 02, 2024, 03:20:02 PM

I don't know... Whether Kane is in the wrong place or he has a curse like others say but I don't fully believe in myths and looking at Kane's performance is much better, it's just that he was unlucky again when he moved to Bayern Munich and did not feel lifting trophies for him.

Next season for Harry Kane can feel the title ...

Even if Bayern Munich reach the final, the goal is still the final match and win it, it's just a little more difficult for Kompany as a new coach, of course he will experience great demands because Bayern Munich is a big club so 1 season must be able to win a trophy whatever it is whether Bundesliga or Champion League.
There is no curse, everything just happens. Kane may not have had the luck to win a title during his professional career, but it will come for him at the right time. Bayern Munich clearly had problems in the Champions League the previous season and that was the thing that made them fail to reach the final and win the title. Their performance in the Bundesliga is also unstable, but that is not Kane's fault.

Kane has proven himself to be a productive striker in the two leagues he has played in so far. Bayern Munich needs to improve the performance of its players to be able to win the title they are after, so this is not because of Kane's curse. I obviously deny that, of course it's not true even though Kane has never won a title so far.
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August 02, 2024, 03:06:42 PM
Tottenham Hotspur was actually the problem why Harry Kane have been without a title to his name? At professional stage, he's yet to do the basic necessities to win games and be in finals. The Harry Kane curse will continue to hunt Bayern Munich, it will be a long season without comprehending their hands on solid achievements. However they've Vincent Kompany who happens to be the new coach, he will bring into the room, spectacular game style which is different from the rest.

Because the load is a question mark, then for me it is not necessarily true regarding Harry Kane who has never won a title. What I mean is not because of Tottenham Hotspur, Kane failed to win the championship trophy. Kane's curse will end with Bayern Munich even though last season as his first season he still couldn't lift the trophy.

Last season before Vincent Kompany was appointed as head coach, Kane and his friends were unlucky, both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League.
Luck will be on their side next season or the 2024/2025 season to take back the Bundesliga title from Bayer Leverkusen even though some people doubt Vincent Kompany.
Harry is a really outstanding player, without a question. At Tottenham, meanwhile, the team structure simply wasnt there to convert his individual genius into medals, despite his star power. His moving to Bayern? That was a wise action. It did not, however, turn out the way everyone had hoped.

Football is not about luck. Its about unrelenting, constant performance. It centers on a team operating in unison, a coach with a winning plan, and a club environment fostering performance. Looking ahead, its not about biding time for fate to change. Kompany has to improve his strategies; Kane has to keep changing; Bayern overall has to raise its game. Winning transcends the events on the field. Its about the preparation, the commitment, the tears and effort put behind-scenes.
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