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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 25, 2021, 12:01:22 PM

Milan is still in the race and they can even pass the turn.

They only need to beat Liverpool and they will pass and hope for Porto not winning the last game.

An hard task for sure but it can happen.

Porto, AC Milan, Atletico Madrid, they still have the same chance, if Porto beats Atletico Madrid, it is certain that Porto will advance to the round of 16, but if Atletico Madrid wins, Athletico must first make sure AC Milan loses to Liferpol , but in other matches ac milan also has the same chance, if they win, and ac milan vs porto draw it can be confirmed that ac milan will advance to the last 16, but according to my prediction, porto has a great chance to advance to the last 16, because it is very difficult to beat liferpol, because liferpol is currently playing very well and consistently..

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Quote from: hahay on November 25, 2021, 10:33:57 PM

Even though Dortmund will play against Besiktas in their last match, it seems that a certain victory will not change their position because they lost in goal aggressiveness to Sporting. But I'm personally not too surprised by what Dortmund have produced so far in the UCL, because in my view even though Dortmund are a big team but sometimes this team is very vulnerable to a decline in performance which makes the results not always consistent and that's what I've seen many times at Dortmund.

Had Haaland not been injured, Ebong would have had the opportunity to play in all of the Champions League matches, perhaps we would have seen a better performance than Dortmund. Dortmund is a good team though. Yet they still rely heavily on Haaland for goals. The players are also mentally stronger and chairful when Haaland is in the team.

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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

It is very good but more dangerous to build a team around one star man.
A team should be a team even when a key player exits temporarily or permanently.
Ronaldo left Juventus and they are struggling;
Messi left Barcelona and they are struggling;
Haaland not available for Dortmund and they crashed out of Champions league.
A good team should be like Chelsea for instance. The absence of a player can only be felt but will not be disastrous.

Even though Dortmund will play against Besiktas in their last match, it seems that a certain victory will not change their position because they lost in goal aggressiveness to Sporting. But I'm personally not too surprised by what Dortmund have produced so far in the UCL, because in my view even though Dortmund are a big team but sometimes this team is very vulnerable to a decline in performance which makes the results not always consistent and that's what I've seen many times at Dortmund.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 25, 2021, 04:29:01 PM

A loss to City by PSG doesn't look that great but considering they got the first game I would say it is totally fine. The only problem is that they have a tie with Leipzig and Brugge which never really made sense to me. Leipzig doing horrible at bundesliga right now and not like how they were last season, and brugge is ... well brugge. In any case, PSG needs to do a bit better, but it is totally understandable to be failing in chemistry so far, they are going to get better and play much better together the more games they play.

Sherrif seems to actually did alright for themselves, considering they worth 10% of most stars as a whole roster, I would say getting that 2 wins was more than enough for them, now they will move to Europa and probably lose there too but getting this far is more than enough for a team like that. Aside from that nothing really worthy of talking happened, the games were pretty tame.

Even when PSG scored the first goal,I was so confident that Mancity will win the match because of the way Mancity was playing.The aggression in their play was too much,that PSG had no choice,but to concede.
Although PSG surprised me,because I thought they won't be able to get even a goal,but they scored first.

The Champions league is between Chelsea,Bayern,Mancity and Liverpool.The latter have been really impressive too,and are very aggressive in their play.

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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

It is very good but more dangerous to build a team around one star man.
A team should be a team even when a key player exits temporarily or permanently.
Ronaldo left Juventus and they are struggling;
Messi left Barcelona and they are struggling;
Haaland not available for Dortmund and they crashed out of Champions league.
A good team should be like Chelsea for instance. The absence of a player can only be felt but will not be disastrous.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 25, 2021, 07:04:09 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 25, 2021, 03:56:05 PM

I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

Haaland injury with long term and left club until end this season this why make Dortmund have out from champion league most early, bad performance Dortmund on champion leagie because they failed on group stage and loss competitive with Ajax Amsterdam have excelent performance. Lft by Sacho to Manchester United they not get the same quality player replace Sacho as winger position on Dortmumd.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 25, 2021, 03:56:05 PM

I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

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Quote from: Joca97 on November 25, 2021, 05:25:12 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 25, 2021, 03:56:05 PM

I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

Sporting was much better then Dortmund in this match and they destroyed them in Lisabon. Dortmund without Halland is really bad and it was seen in this match. They just couldnt score and missed too many chances. Dortmund will now have to focus only on bundesliga.

Losing Haaland made it very difficult for Dortmund to score goals, especially in the last two games in the Champions League, Dortmund get
a red card, it shows the Dortmund players are so frustrated. I just hope Haaland can play soon, so Dortmund's performance can improve again.
It seems that many people are surprised that Dortmund can lose to Sporting and have to be eliminated in the Champions League group stage.
But it must be admitted that the fighting spirit of Sporting players is higher and the attacks built by Sporting players are much more effective.
Although statistically Dortmund had more control over the match, but in the end it was Sporting who won the match and Sporting deserved to
qualify for the next round. At least Dortmund can still play in the Europa League and not only focus on playing in the Bundesliga, even though
the level of the Europa League is still below the Champions League.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 25, 2021, 03:56:05 PM

I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

Sporting was much better then Dortmund in this match and they destroyed them in Lisabon. Dortmund without Halland is really bad and it was seen in this match. They just couldnt score and missed too many chances. Dortmund will now have to focus only on bundesliga.

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A loss to City by PSG doesn't look that great but considering they got the first game I would say it is totally fine. The only problem is that they have a tie with Leipzig and Brugge which never really made sense to me. Leipzig doing horrible at bundesliga right now and not like how they were last season, and brugge is ... well brugge. In any case, PSG needs to do a bit better, but it is totally understandable to be failing in chemistry so far, they are going to get better and play much better together the more games they play.

Sherrif seems to actually did alright for themselves, considering they worth 10% of most stars as a whole roster, I would say getting that 2 wins was more than enough for them, now they will move to Europa and probably lose there too but getting this far is more than enough for a team like that. Aside from that nothing really worthy of talking happened, the games were pretty tame.

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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

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Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this

The last match for Liverpool will not mean anything, because Liverpool is already in the playoffs. And Milan can take advantage of this and win the match against Liverpool's second squad (I think Klopp will give all the main squad a rest). Atletico will not let Porto win, I think either Atletico will win or there will be a draw, but the match will be difficult with a lot of yellow cards. And thus Milan has a theoretical chance of getting out of the group.

Oh yeah that makes sense, I didn't think before of course Liverpool don't want to take the risk but we'll see if Liverpool play with the second squad or the main squad
Regarding Porto I believe they can qualify because they have some advantages. Let's wait for the next match.

Congratulations to Liverpool and well done to Jürgen Klopp for qualification with ease,it was suppose to be a difficult job but they makes it looks easy well done to the team,I believe there last match we be mixed with alot of under 23 players and some fridge players because Liverpool is a premier League side they can't Field In a strong side for a match that don't have too much importance for them to avoid unnecessary injuries and fatigue

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 25, 2021, 12:33:11 PM

Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this

The last match for Liverpool will not mean anything, because Liverpool is already in the playoffs. And Milan can take advantage of this and win the match against Liverpool's second squad (I think Klopp will give all the main squad a rest). Atletico will not let Porto win, I think either Atletico will win or there will be a draw, but the match will be difficult with a lot of yellow cards. And thus Milan has a theoretical chance of getting out of the group.

Oh yeah that makes sense, I didn't think before of course Liverpool don't want to take the risk but we'll see if Liverpool play with the second squad or the main squad
Regarding Porto I believe they can qualify because they have some advantages. Let's wait for the next match.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 25, 2021, 04:21:09 AM

5 wins out of 5 for Klopp’s mighty red men. Our group was billed as the group of death when the draw was made with opponents of the quality of Atletico, Porto & Milan. I’m surprised but very happy to have won the group so easily. Hope we don’t draw PSG in the next round though.

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Quote from: Altryist on November 25, 2021, 01:08:24 PM

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Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this

The last match for Liverpool will not mean anything, because Liverpool is already in the playoffs. And Milan can take advantage of this and win the match against Liverpool's second squad (I think Klopp will give all the main squad a rest). Atletico will not let Porto win, I think either Atletico will win or there will be a draw, but the match will be difficult with a lot of yellow cards. And thus Milan has a theoretical chance of getting out of the group.

Only capable of 1 point only Milan took the lead even in a fairly suspected condition, even though during the most dangerous Atletico attack along the game. If only didn't you do a misuse when it was too in front and the Goal from Atletico could be counted, because he explained DEPAUL in the ideal condition included the ball. For the first 10 minutes Milan did a kick against Atletico. Entering the tempo round of the game is increasing, moreover Atletico has a goal opportunity,

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 25, 2021, 12:33:11 PM

Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this

The last match for Liverpool will not mean anything, because Liverpool is already in the playoffs. And Milan can take advantage of this and win the match against Liverpool's second squad (I think Klopp will give all the main squad a rest). Atletico will not let Porto win, I think either Atletico will win or there will be a draw, but the match will be difficult with a lot of yellow cards. And thus Milan has a theoretical chance of getting out of the group.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 25, 2021, 12:33:11 PM

Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this

Porto certainly cannot be underestimated even though Atletico Madrid have a number of great players in their team. Porto have had a good history in this competition winning titles, but I'm not confident in their ability this season. Atletico Madrid must win if they want to qualify, but this will also depend a lot on the outcome of the AC Milan vs Liverpool match.

In the first leg match Atletico Madrid failed to beat Porto now is the 2nd leg the challenge will be more difficult for Atletico because they have to play away
AC Milan vs Liverpool, do you think Milan can win? yes maybe because something can happen, but it takes a miracle Liverpool is on fire.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 25, 2021, 12:58:51 PM

Messi is gone, his no longer that player we knew from Barcelona that could single handily change the face of the entire game [...]

I think you are quite biased towards the Catalans.

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Quote from: boltz on November 25, 2021, 08:53:50 AM

PSG at some point were cheering among them that they're playing so good and most likely will score 2nd goal but reality hit them up and City scored the equalizer and from there on , City was a beast and managed to score the 2nd goal. However, PSG had some chances to make a draw but when you have so many individual players, you can't win games under pressure.

Champions league football has always shown that experience does play a crucial role but then again both Manchester city and PSG are fairly new to the competition and experience is certainly not on their plate as both teams try bid to win it for the first time . But between the two i think City handles pressure better and defend better unlike PSG who are fond of conceding goals in any competition.

Quote from: boltz on November 25, 2021, 08:53:50 AM

For me Messi has fallen so much that I barely know who that player it ....but on the same time , I can't say the same about Ronaldo who is a beast at 36 years old.

Messi is gone, his no longer that player we knew from Barcelona that could single handily change the face of the entire game upon being brought on to to pitch. Now his just a regular player like everybody else that is still trying to find his feet. For now lets lower our expectations to remove the pressure off him ,maybe this way he can comeback

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 24, 2021, 01:56:50 PM

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Only 1 hour before kickoff the first half of Manchester city vs PSG will start. I'm backing Manchester City to win, but I'm a little worried about the strength of PSG who might be able to do better after Messi's recent resurgence. Neymar, Mbappe and Messi may still be the top line up today in the game but Messi has ruined the first leg match with his 2 goals then which cost Manchester City to lose.

Manchester City completely dominated the game against PSG actually. They were far better in the first half. In the second half, PSG tried to equalize things and they were more successful. But City still were the better playing team. Despite this, PSG managed to get ahead first by Mbappe's goal in the first minutes of the second half. But this time, City were very decisive about winning against them. And they turned the game around really great and won by 2-1 thanks to Sterling and G. Jesus' goals. They have guaranteed qualifying for the next round as the leader of the group.

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