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November 30, 2021, 12:16:56 PM
Interesting odds before the final round:

UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group E - FC Barcelona
No
1,72
Yes
2,00

UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group E - Benfica Lisbon
Yes
1,72
No
2,00

In my opinion, both highlighted results look like easy money. Sometimes miracles happen, but on average, the outcome is already predetermined.

UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group B - Atletico Madrid
No
1,22

Yes
4,00
UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - To Qualify From Group B - AC Milan
No
1,27
Yes
3,50

This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?
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November 30, 2021, 11:58:53 AM

Which thread to discuss the ongoing Balon d'or

Is there any other dedicated thread to discuss Balloon d'or? Or no, I think here fits to discuss it.
Robert Lewandoski is awarded the best striker of the year. A title that sounds new to me. Was this created to rub him the Balloon d'or twice?
Robbed? I'm not sure about this because statistically, Measi had a better season than Lewandosky last season, and Lewa had a better 2020 and deserved the award, but the event was canceled due to Covid19 measures, and no one can blame them. Messi deserved the award for 2021, but the biggest snub was the goalkeeper award, Mendy was robbed.

I think that Messi's duties of this one are at least more than the last year's one. And honestly speaking I really don't have much faith in these awards anymore of FIFA. I am even starting to lose faith in FIFA altogether because it is now being controlled by some money-seeking politicians and people in power. Just look at where the last World Cup was hosted and where the World Cup is going to take place this time and I think you will understand.
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November 30, 2021, 10:13:26 AM
Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.
For Milan, I think it will be very difficult to qualify this season, because apart from they have to beat Liverpool, Milan's qualification is also very dependent on the results of other matches later, I think Atletico Madrid and Porto seem to have a greater chance of qualifying for the last 16, because can It is said that Milan must win by a big score if later Athletico manages to beat Porto to win the possible odds via head to head.

This is the toughest group in the Champions League. Liverpool, Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid. All the teams have full qualification or ability to qualify for the top 16. Those who perform well on the field will advance to the next round. Porto will play in the next match against Madrid. Milan will play against Liverpool. Either team can win these two matches. Since it is a do or die match. So it is difficult to make predictions in these matches. However, the chances of the home team winning will be a bit higher.
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November 30, 2021, 09:23:09 AM
Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.
For Milan, I think it will be very difficult to qualify this season, because apart from they have to beat Liverpool, Milan's qualification is also very dependent on the results of other matches later, I think Atletico Madrid and Porto seem to have a greater chance of qualifying for the last 16, because can It is said that Milan must win by a big score if later Athletico manages to beat Porto to win the possible odds via head to head.
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November 30, 2021, 07:10:27 AM
Porto, Milan and Atletico Madrid... I wonder which of them will manage to continue on their way in the Champions League after the last group matches. I must admit that I'm favouring and supporting Milan in this competition. They are going to play against the toughest competitor of the group though. But Liverpool have already secured their leadership. This might be a big opportunity for Milan to win. And then, Milan will hope for the Porto - Atletico Madrid match to end in a draw or Atletico to win with a score that they won't be able to leave Milan behind.
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November 30, 2021, 07:00:27 AM
Barcelona's qualification is depend on the outcome of the game between Benfica and Dynomo Kiev; if Dynomo Kiev holds Benfica to a draw or a win, Barcelona will automatically qualify, even if they lose against Bayern Munich. They have a good chance of qualifying.

In the Champions League, I've learnt not to underestimate underdogs; the underdogs always rise to the top of the standings.
It is certain that Benfica will win with Dynamo Kiev of course Benfica will not let it go I just looked at the previous statistics and always distinguish if the difference is far then my assumption is that Dynamo Kiev will not win, although I also do not underestimate the underdog team.The efforts of Barcelona and Benfica will both fight to win but for me still only take my conclusion about this prediction barca 30% of bayern wins.
What makes you think Benfica will easily defeat Dynamo Kiev? Dynamo Kiev will be looking for their first win in the competition, and since it is their final match, they will not make it easy for Benfica. If Benfica must qualify, they must battle Dynamo, and I am confident Bayern Munich will defeat Barcelona.

Which thread to discuss the ongoing Balon d'or

Is there any other dedicated thread to discuss Balloon d'or? Or no, I think here fits to discuss it.
Robert Lewandoski is awarded the best striker of the year. A title that sounds new to me. Was this created to rub him the Balloon d'or twice?
Robbed? I'm not sure about this because statistically, Measi had a better season than Lewandosky last season, and Lewa had a better 2020 and deserved the award, but the event was canceled due to Covid19 measures, and no one can blame them. Messi deserved the award for 2021, but the biggest snub was the goalkeeper award, Mendy was robbed.
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November 30, 2021, 04:41:32 AM
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.

This will be difficult because their performance is very much different, Especially if we look at AC Milan's last 5 matches in all competitions, They can only win the match against athletico and after that nothing else. In contrast to the Liverpool match which is so overpowered.
I myself really doubt they beat Liverpool in this match.
Basically Liverpool must prioritize the EPL for now, because in the UCL Liverpool have definitely qualified. If later against Milan, Liverpool is still targeting 3 points, then obviously Liverpool prefers to prioritize their prestige in the UCL which I don't think is important for now. Because after all, after Milan was able to win away yesterday against Atlético, at least Milan again has hope of being able to qualify and so also in the last match against Liverpool of course Milan will fight hard to win at the San Siro.
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November 30, 2021, 04:35:34 AM
The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
I hope they didn't, Liverpool is still on fire, when they loosen up the games it could be affected for another game in the premier league. I hope Klopp doesn't change the formation within the full team like usual, Salah still has a chance to create a new record in the champions league. Right now, Salah is the top score in the champions league but it is possible he will defeat Lewandowski with 8 goals. While Milan, only miracle to bring the team to 2nd round, only if Porto vs Atletico ties.


I am pretty sure that Klopp will give some of his usual starting eleven some time to rest in the game vs Milan and i also don't really think that this has an impact for the next games to come, at least not an negative impact. There are so many games in the english league and they have 2 cup competitions on top so every possibility where you can give your players that have a lot of time on the field a rest is very welcome and needed.
I don't think though that Liverpool will play with a complete B-Squad because the also have a responsibility towards the other clubs of the group. Everyone of the other 3 teams can still reach the knock out stage of the Champions League. Therefore Liverpool can not just give the game away for free.
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November 30, 2021, 04:24:12 AM
Manchester City are always favourite to win the championship every season untill they reach the quarter finals then guadiola will start his experimental and lose a game he is supposed to win,but I still rate them though in winning the champions League,I see Liverpool as contenders as long as they keep mo Salah fit,for me right now Bayern Munich is the favourite.

With a lineup like this and a manager like Guardiola, Manchester City will always be one of the favourite teams to win the CL championship. So far, they have reached even the final (which happened in the last season) but they have been eliminated by Chelsea. As far as I have heard, Guardiola is thinking of leaving Manchester City in the near future. Before this, I'm quite sure that Manchester City players and Guardiola all would like to win the championship. But they have big opponents this season like always. Maybe they can make it to there this time.
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November 30, 2021, 03:54:02 AM
Manchester City are always favourite to win the championship every season untill they reach the quarter finals then guadiola will start his experimental and lose a game he is supposed to win,but I still rate them though in winning the champions League,I see Liverpool as contenders as long as they keep mo Salah fit,for me right now Bayern Munich is the favourite.
Recently we have many seasons with Manchester City was hot favourite for this title, but sadly they have never been able to win, and I am sure this year they are again not going to win this title because few teams are much better and having good combinations for winning this year's title and same happening to Bayern they are very good quality team with many extraordinary players, but they are also not going to win we have Chelsea and Liverpool much better teams for this year's title even It's too early, but surely these are main contenders for this year's title as PSG is also still need to fix few issues which are not allowing them to have some better results with very heavily star-studded team not able to give perfect results.

We have few other teams also having good record and can create upset on their day are Inter and Real Madrid for this season which was full of entertainment and upsets after Covid-19 which is again hanging around us.
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November 30, 2021, 02:04:41 AM
There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
But last match Liverpool become terrible for Milan to get three points, not easy defeat Liverpool have perfect result on all champion league match, success win on five match before make Liverpool become the only one team success get all point on stage group. Maybe Liverpool will play with not all important player but they can make Milan failed to pass 1/8 finals stage.
The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.
The scenario AC Milan hopes for is a win against Liverpool and Porto vs Atletico Madrid expect a draw to qualify for the next round, and it is highly unlikely because Porto and Atletico Madrid will have the ambition to win to qualify for the next round.

It looks like AC Milan will focus on winning the game against Liverpool and Liverpool will not reduce their game because this is a prestigious match.

The competition in Group B is still very interesting, because there are three teams who still have a chance to accompany Liverpool to qualify
for the next round. AC Milan will face Liverpool, it should be a match that is easily predictable. But the problem is that Liverpool have already
qualified for the next round as group B winners. So there is a possibility that Jurgen Klopp will rotate players and will not field his main players.
Moreover, approaching the end of the year, the schedule of matches is getting tighter, I think Klopp wants to minimize the possibility of player
injury by not fielding some of his main players in the match against AC Milan. If that was the case, AC Milan should have won the game.
But AC Milan won't necessarily qualify if Porto beat Atletico. So it is very exciting to know the final results of the final round of the Champions
League group stage.

In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.

This will be difficult because their performance is very much different, Especially if we look at AC Milan's last 5 matches in all competitions, They can only win the match against athletico and after that nothing else. In contrast to the Liverpool match which is so overpowered.
I myself really doubt they beat Liverpool in this match.

I too feel that Klopp won’t put a strong team as it’s already hectic for the player’s, hence he may use the opportunity to test Liverpool’s bench strength and even then one should not underestimate Liverpool. Furthermore if Ac Milan wants to beat Liverpool then they’ll need to play some outstanding football, but currently they’re unable to do so, hence let’s hope that they’ll play well against Liverpool and win the fixture.
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November 29, 2021, 11:44:23 PM
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.

This will be difficult because their performance is very much different, Especially if we look at AC Milan's last 5 matches in all competitions, They can only win the match against athletico and after that nothing else. In contrast to the Liverpool match which is so overpowered.
I myself really doubt they beat Liverpool in this match.
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November 29, 2021, 11:16:24 PM
There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
But last match Liverpool become terrible for Milan to get three points, not easy defeat Liverpool have perfect result on all champion league match, success win on five match before make Liverpool become the only one team success get all point on stage group. Maybe Liverpool will play with not all important player but they can make Milan failed to pass 1/8 finals stage.
The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.
The scenario AC Milan hopes for is a win against Liverpool and Porto vs Atletico Madrid expect a draw to qualify for the next round, and it is highly unlikely because Porto and Atletico Madrid will have the ambition to win to qualify for the next round.

It looks like AC Milan will focus on winning the game against Liverpool and Liverpool will not reduce their game because this is a prestigious match.

The competition in Group B is still very interesting, because there are three teams who still have a chance to accompany Liverpool to qualify
for the next round. AC Milan will face Liverpool, it should be a match that is easily predictable. But the problem is that Liverpool have already
qualified for the next round as group B winners. So there is a possibility that Jurgen Klopp will rotate players and will not field his main players.
Moreover, approaching the end of the year, the schedule of matches is getting tighter, I think Klopp wants to minimize the possibility of player
injury by not fielding some of his main players in the match against AC Milan. If that was the case, AC Milan should have won the game.
But AC Milan won't necessarily qualify if Porto beat Atletico. So it is very exciting to know the final results of the final round of the Champions
League group stage.
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November 29, 2021, 09:55:55 PM
There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
But last match Liverpool become terrible for Milan to get three points, not easy defeat Liverpool have perfect result on all champion league match, success win on five match before make Liverpool become the only one team success get all point on stage group. Maybe Liverpool will play with not all important player but they can make Milan failed to pass 1/8 finals stage.

The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.
The scenario AC Milan hopes for is a win against Liverpool and Porto vs Atletico Madrid expect a draw to qualify for the next round, and it is highly unlikely because Porto and Atletico Madrid will have the ambition to win to qualify for the next round.

It looks like AC Milan will focus on winning the game against Liverpool and Liverpool will not reduce their game because this is a prestigious match.
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November 29, 2021, 09:08:13 PM
The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
I hope they didn't, Liverpool is still on fire, when they loosen up the games it could be affected for another game in the premier league. I hope Klopp doesn't change the formation within the full team like usual, Salah still has a chance to create a new record in the champions league. Right now, Salah is the top score in the champions league but it is possible he will defeat Lewandowski with 8 goals. While Milan, only miracle to bring the team to 2nd round, only if Porto vs Atletico ties.
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There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
But last match Liverpool become terrible for Milan to get three points, not easy defeat Liverpool have perfect result on all champion league match, success win on five match before make Liverpool become the only one team success get all point on stage group. Maybe Liverpool will play with not all important player but they can make Milan failed to pass 1/8 finals stage.

The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.
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November 29, 2021, 07:11:35 PM
There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
But last match Liverpool become terrible for Milan to get three points, not easy defeat Liverpool have perfect result on all champion league match, success win on five match before make Liverpool become the only one team success get all point on stage group. Maybe Liverpool will play with not all important player but they can make Milan failed to pass 1/8 finals stage.

The next fixture is indeed a bit harder for Milan but I guess Liverpool will loosen up something to give some starting eleven players a rest. With the perfect points they got so far, Liverpool has the discretion to give their substitute players a chance to show up.
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November 29, 2021, 06:32:47 PM
There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
If Milan are able to beat Liverpool on the 7th of December. Then, they might advance to the next round. Although, Winning Liverpool in the Champion League is not an easy task, remember Liverpool haven't lost or draw any of their CL matches so far, they won in their last 5 matches in the CL. Nevertheless, in Champion League, no club are weak, but Milan have to be well prepared for this game. While Porto are presently at the 2nd place on the group table, and how they preforms in their next match, will determine if they will probably advance to round 16 or not. I will love to watch the group B matches, because it will surely be interesting.
In any case, knowing the character of Jurgen Klopp and the style of play of modern Liverpool, Milan should not count on easily achieving the necessary result in the last round. Liverpool tries to play to the maximum in any matches and despite the fact that the club has already solved all the tournament tasks in the Champions League, I think that the maximum result that Milan can claim is a draw. Especially considering Milan's not entirely successful game in the domestic championship. Therefore, the outcome of the match between Porto and Atletico is of great importance, where the winner of the match immediately solves the problem of reaching the next stage, regardless of the outcome of the confrontation between Milan and Liverpool.
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November 29, 2021, 04:08:48 PM
In the group D, there is a nice competition between Real Madrid and Inter to end the group stage as the leader now. Real Madrid are leading the group by 12 points and Inter have 10 points. By the way, they both guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the tournament. And look at the coincidence that the last game of these teams is going to be Real Madrid - Inter in Santiago Bernabeu.  Cheesy  In their first game against each other, Real Madrid defeated Inter in Giuseppe Meazza by a goal in the last minutes (1-0). Inter will want to avenge that game. But I don't think that Real Madrid will make a big mistake. I expect them to draw with Inter at worst.
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November 29, 2021, 03:53:27 PM
There is a new hope for Milan now to advance to the 1/8 finals. Because they got a really tough win against Atletico Madrid in Spain by a late goal. And now, they are only one point behind the team at the second position which are Porto. Of course, Atletico Madrid have a chance too as they have the same points with Milan even though they have one less goal advantage than Milan. And I don't think that Porto will be able to continue in the CL. It feels like Atletico Madrid will draw with Porto and Milan will draw with Liverpool in the worst case. But Milan will have to win to continue in that case. Let's see which team will make it!
If Milan are able to beat Liverpool on the 7th of December. Then, they might advance to the next round. Although, Winning Liverpool in the Champion League is not an easy task, remember Liverpool haven't lost or draw any of their CL matches so far, they won in their last 5 matches in the CL. Nevertheless, in Champion League, no club are weak, but Milan have to be well prepared for this game. While Porto are presently at the 2nd place on the group table, and how they preforms in their next match, will determine if they will probably advance to round 16 or not. I will love to watch the group B matches, because it will surely be interesting.
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