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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 25, 2021, 12:33:11 PM

Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this

Porto certainly cannot be underestimated even though Atletico Madrid have a number of great players in their team. Porto have had a good history in this competition winning titles, but I'm not confident in their ability this season. Atletico Madrid must win if they want to qualify, but this will also depend a lot on the outcome of the AC Milan vs Liverpool match.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 24, 2021, 09:01:28 PM

I do not really understand what Dortmund is upto in this season's Champions league. [...]

To be honest, I was also very upset by Borusius Dordmund, since hypothetically, even without Holland, they should have won. Okay, here's an example ... Erling Holland effortlessly scored a goal against Wolfsburg after his absence from the Champions League. This is just one of those rare moments when one could clearly observe a colossal drop in coefficients after the announcement before the match with Sporting. Tongue

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 25, 2021, 12:01:22 PM

Milan is still in the race and they can even pass the turn.

They only need to beat Liverpool and they will pass and hope for Porto not winning the last game.

An hard task for sure but it can happen.

Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this

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If Milan beat demotivated Liverpool in the last round and advance to the next round, it will be an impressive comeback. The situation in the group is just ridiculous now: Liverpool has more points than the other three clubs combined Grin

They will still depend on Porto vs Atletico game! If Porto manages to win, and they are playing at home, they will take that second place, Milan even with a win will have only 7 points! I guess the second place is open for Athletico as well if they win and Milan plays draw or lose they can take that second place... will be interesting definitely!

I think Atlético will beat Porto in the last match. It turns out that (taking into account the equality of statistics on games in personal meetings between Milan and Atlético) the second-place winner will be determined by the difference between goals scored and conceded. At the moment, Milan has a one-goal head start, but it will be more difficult to improve this indicator against Liverpool than in the case of Atlético, which will play against a much weaker opponent.

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Milan is still in the race and they can even pass the turn.

They only need to beat Liverpool and they will pass and hope for Porto not winning the last game.

An hard task for sure but it can happen.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 25, 2021, 10:53:15 AM

That last match in Milan as the host, will this be a comeback for Milan when they face Liverpool? I think it's very difficult and impossible to win, although in football anything can happen, I just look at the statistics.
For me there is a possibility that Atletico Madrid will qualify for the next round compared to FC Porto, but if Milan is able to solve this problem then it will be the impression that there has even been to survive to qualify for the next round.

I don't think it would be a difficult match, and how Liverpool aren't toping the English premier league table is difficult to understand, because this season the don't only win, they rule the game, and everyone in Liverpool team can potentially score, Ac milan didn't do well yesterday and atletico madrid aren't a team I value this 2021/2022 season, so my prediction is that Liverpool will beat Ac milan in the last match of the group stage of the UEFA champions league.

Liverpool is definitely a strong team, no doubt about it. They are also playing great in the Premier League. However, I do not see any reason to think that the AC Milan team is weak. Milan is a strong enough team. They have the ability to win against Liverpool. I wouldn't be surprised if AC Milan wins this match. However, the chances of winning are higher for Liverpool. They are in good form. Their performance in past matches is very commendable.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 25, 2021, 10:49:00 AM

It was great to see Manchester City finally win a game where we were 1 goal behind Mbappe, but we reacted in time by scoring two goals to win the match. I think you are right about the PSG coach, he is not a coach who is able to make a team appear more impressive in Europe especially in the Champions League despite his extensive experience at Tottenham. But this defeat will have no effect on Manchester City and PSG because Brugge's chance have been stopped by Leipzig by a big score.

If PSG fail in the Champions League this season, then I think Pochettino will soon accept the fact that he will be sacked. PSG are so ambitious to win the Champions League title that they continue to want to strengthen their team every season, but so far they have not found the right coach who can bring the title to their home.

They change coaches so often that they simply do not have time to build their strategy in the team and adjust the game in the way they would like. They also buy all the players in a row who are needed by the team or who are not needed, like Ramos, who only sits on the bench. Manchester City beat PSG very confidently, and after watching the match, I can say that in my opinion PSG will not be able to win the Champions League this season. And they will again look for a new coach, maybe this time it will be Zidane.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 25, 2021, 11:09:22 AM

Quote from: Raflesia on November 25, 2021, 10:53:15 AM

That last match in Milan as the host, will this be a comeback for Milan when they face Liverpool? I think it's very difficult and impossible to win, although in football anything can happen, I just look at the statistics.

Milan and Atletico Madrid still have a chance to qualify for the next round, but Milan's chance of qualifying are much smaller than Atletico Madrid because Milan have to beat Liverpool in the last match. Liverpool never lose, so it will be a tough job for Milan. Apart from that Atletico Madrid will play Porto and I'm sure Atletico will win that match, so they will just have a bigger chance of qualifying.

So I would still think that the final match for group B will be hot as AC Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto will all go out of their way to win the match to qualify for the next round.

Unexpected indeed when the seeded Athletico must be in the last position now.
For Liverpool, we put it aside because they will definitely qualify and now it's an interesting discussion about the tig clubs below and it will be very exciting.
whoever wins their chance gets bigger.
and for milan now is a very difficult thing i think because even though they are playing at home but their opponent is now so superpower.
on the other hand i want to see the result of porto vs athletico because this is a life and death match for them if they want to follow in liverpool's footsteps to the next round and i want to see porto win Cheesy

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 25, 2021, 11:09:22 AM

Milan and Atletico Madrid still have a chance to qualify for the next round, but Milan's chance of qualifying are much smaller than Atletico Madrid because Milan have to beat Liverpool in the last match. Liverpool never lose, so it will be a tough job for Milan. Apart from that Atletico Madrid will play Porto and I'm sure Atletico will win that match, so they will just have a bigger chance of qualifying.

So I would still think that the final match for group B will be hot as AC Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto will all go out of their way to win the match to qualify for the next round.

AC Milan indeed have smaller chance than Atletico Madrid because they have less experience there. They only return in this season after many years struggle to end in top 4 of Serie A. With their situation in this group, it is best if AC Milan give it up and focus back to Serie A where they are very close to Napoli.

If they keep spending resources for Champions League, they might lose both especially chance to win Scudetto because Champions League is a very tough. It's never easy to play in 3 matches in a week.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 25, 2021, 10:53:15 AM

That last match in Milan as the host, will this be a comeback for Milan when they face Liverpool? I think it's very difficult and impossible to win, although in football anything can happen, I just look at the statistics.
For me there is a possibility that Atletico Madrid will qualify for the next round compared to FC Porto, but if Milan is able to solve this problem then it will be the impression that there has even been to survive to qualify for the next round.

I don't think it would be a difficult match, and how Liverpool aren't toping the English premier league table is difficult to understand, because this season the don't only win, they rule the game, and everyone in Liverpool team can potentially score, Ac milan didn't do well yesterday and atletico madrid aren't a team I value this 2021/2022 season, so my prediction is that Liverpool will beat Ac milan in the last match of the group stage of the UEFA champions league.

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Quote from: hahay on November 25, 2021, 12:50:54 AM

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Barcelona could not score a goal against Benfica. The match ended in a goalless draw. However, Barcelona played well enough. Barcelona's gameplay was good enough. Barcelona has played better today than at least in the last few matches. In the last match in the champions league, they will play against the strong Bayern Munich. And it's Bayern Munich's home match. Hopefully we can see the stable gameplay of Barcelona against Bayern.

I doubt that, no miracle for Barcelona that came quickly, in fact Xavi still needs time to get back to Barcelona's best form. Although Bayern Munich has certainly qualified, but that will not make it lower the quality of their game play and it was proven by the result against Kyiv yesterday, Bayern Munich still won there. So, playing at home against Barcelona, I believe their prestige remains high so it is difficult for Barcelona to get points in their last match.

It is very difficult for Barcelona to get points against a team like Bayern Munich. At the same time I would say that Barcelona's fortunes against Bayern Munich are always a bit bad. Barcelona have lost four of their last five matches against Bayern. Barcelona has scored 6 goals in 5 matches, Messi has scored 2 and Neymar has scored 3. Barcelona, on the other hand, has conceded 16 goals. Barcelona are now in their worst form in the last 5 years. In that case, it is unlikely that they will win against Bayern.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 25, 2021, 10:53:15 AM

That last match in Milan as the host, will this be a comeback for Milan when they face Liverpool? I think it's very difficult and impossible to win, although in football anything can happen, I just look at the statistics.

Milan and Atletico Madrid still have a chance to qualify for the next round, but Milan's chance of qualifying are much smaller than Atletico Madrid because Milan have to beat Liverpool in the last match. Liverpool never lose, so it will be a tough job for Milan. Apart from that Atletico Madrid will play Porto and I'm sure Atletico will win that match, so they will just have a bigger chance of qualifying.

So I would still think that the final match for group B will be hot as AC Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto will all go out of their way to win the match to qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 25, 2021, 09:58:29 AM

If Milan beat demotivated Liverpool in the last round and advance to the next round, it will be an impressive comeback. The situation in the group is just ridiculous now: Liverpool has more points than the other three clubs combined Grin

An equally interesting situation in group G: the teams have 5,6,7 and 8 points, respectively.

That last match in Milan as the host, will this be a comeback for Milan when they face Liverpool? I think it's very difficult and impossible to win, although in football anything can happen, I just look at the statistics.
For me there is a possibility that Atletico Madrid will qualify for the next round compared to FC Porto, but if Milan is able to solve this problem then it will be the impression that there has even been to survive to qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: hahay on November 25, 2021, 09:28:01 AM

For me, PSG is just not right with the coach, because basically the squad that PSG has is very guarantee for a team that is respected in this era. Pochettino really couldn't bring together the star players at PSG, so implementing any strategy still didn't produce good results. But after all, winning and losing for these two teams didn't change any of their standings until the end, so last night's match was only risking prestige.

It was great to see Manchester City finally win a game where we were 1 goal behind Mbappe, but we reacted in time by scoring two goals to win the match. I think you are right about the PSG coach, he is not a coach who is able to make a team appear more impressive in Europe especially in the Champions League despite his extensive experience at Tottenham. But this defeat will have no effect on Manchester City and PSG because Brugge's chance have been stopped by Leipzig by a big score.

If PSG fail in the Champions League this season, then I think Pochettino will soon accept the fact that he will be sacked. PSG are so ambitious to win the Champions League title that they continue to want to strengthen their team every season, but so far they have not found the right coach who can bring the title to their home.

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5 wins out of 5 for Klopp’s mighty red men. Our group was billed as the group of death when the draw was made with opponents of the quality of Atletico, Porto & Milan. I’m surprised but very happy to have won the group so easily. Hope we don’t draw PSG in the next round though.

Liverpool will do a good job this season in the Champions League and I don't think we will be in trouble if PSG are their opponents in the next round. As a fan of course I wish Liverpool all the best this season and so far we are looking strong in front of all opponent in the Champions League. 5 wins in 5 match, fun with these stats.

I have the same thought. Liverpool is one of the strong candidates in the Champions League this season. In the Group Stage, they get absolute points. Although in the group there are 3 other big teams (AC Milan, Atletico Madrid, and FC Porto), but Liverpool seems untouchable. So whoever is against Liverpool in the round of 16, I still believe Liverpool will be the winner.

Liverpool is definitely a very strong team. We just have to look at the table to see that. They won every match so far the last time a team managed to win all of their group stage matches was Bayern Munich if i remember correctly back in 2019. So Liverpool has a chance to also get this great achievement. I would not go so far though to call them the big favorite for the champions league yet. For me there are other team out there at the moment that are still a little stronger like ManCity for example. In yesterdays match Liverpool was not really dominating and in the first half i would even say that Porto was the stronger team.

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5 wins out of 5 for Klopp’s mighty red men. Our group was billed as the group of death when the draw was made with opponents of the quality of Atletico, Porto & Milan. I’m surprised but very happy to have won the group so easily. Hope we don’t draw PSG in the next round though.

Liverpool will do a good job this season in the Champions League and I don't think we will be in trouble if PSG are their opponents in the next round. As a fan of course I wish Liverpool all the best this season and so far we are looking strong in front of all opponent in the Champions League. 5 wins in 5 match, fun with these stats.

I have the same thought. Liverpool is one of the strong candidates in the Champions League this season. In the Group Stage, they get absolute points. Although in the group there are 3 other big teams (AC Milan, Atletico Madrid, and FC Porto), but Liverpool seems untouchable. So whoever is against Liverpool in the round of 16, I still believe Liverpool will be the winner.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 25, 2021, 09:58:29 AM

If Milan beat demotivated Liverpool in the last round and advance to the next round, it will be an impressive comeback. The situation in the group is just ridiculous now: Liverpool has more points than the other three clubs combined Grin

They will still depend on Porto vs Atletico game! If Porto manages to win, and they are playing at home, they will take that second place, Milan even with a win will have only 7 points! I guess the second place is open for Athletico as well if they win and Milan plays draw or lose they can take that second place... will be interesting definitely!

Quote from: KTChampions on November 25, 2021, 09:58:29 AM

An equally interesting situation in group G: the teams have 5,6,7 and 8 points, respectively.

I was thinking about this group, and the last games will be tricky... Wolfsburg is playing at home with only 5 points, and even with win they will be tied with Lille, but Lille has a better goal difference, maybe if Wolfsburg can win with more than 4 goals difference, but I doubt that! Salzburg vs Sevilla is probably more interesting, with win one of this teams is going to the next round!

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 25, 2021, 04:21:09 AM

5 wins out of 5 for Klopp’s mighty red men. Our group was billed as the group of death when the draw was made with opponents of the quality of Atletico, Porto & Milan. I’m surprised but very happy to have won the group so easily. Hope we don’t draw PSG in the next round though.

Liverpool will do a good job this season in the Champions League and I don't think we will be in trouble if PSG are their opponents in the next round. As a fan of course I wish Liverpool all the best this season and so far we are looking strong in front of all opponent in the Champions League. 5 wins in 5 match, fun with these stats.

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Quote from: boltz on November 25, 2021, 08:53:50 AM

PSG at some point were cheering among them that they're playing so good and most likely will score 2nd goal but reality hit them up and City scored the equalizer and from there on , City was a beast and managed to score the 2nd goal. However, PSG had some chances to make a draw but when you have so many individual players, you can't win games under pressure. For me Messi has fallen so much that I barely know who that player it ....but on the same time , I can't say the same about Ronaldo who is a beast at 36 years old.

They cheer because they manage to stay without conceding a goal and score first, which was out of the picture until then. Man City was far better from the start and lose some great chances to freeze anyone in the stadium. Even if they get behind, they remain focused and it was obvious that they will get the equalizer. For me, Man City fully deserves the win and PSG was pretty lucky that the game ends 2 - 1...

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If Milan beat demotivated Liverpool in the last round and advance to the next round, it will be an impressive comeback. The situation in the group is just ridiculous now: Liverpool has more points than the other three clubs combined Grin

An equally interesting situation in group G: the teams have 5,6,7 and 8 points, respectively.

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