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Quote from: Harkorede on July 08, 2021, 03:46:11 PM

the Italians might be more solid defensively but then England does have the capacity and quality offensively to make the life really tough for the Bonucci and his folks at the back. I'll give the edge to Italy simply because they seemed more disciplined.

Don't forget England's defense line is also quite strong! Just check again how many its conceded goals during this tournament, it is almost the same as Italy. They have very few conceded goals. It means England defenders also played as discipline as Italian defenders. While for the attacking line, most of us should agree that England's attackers are a bit better. Based on these considerations, I believe England has a better chance to win the final of EURO 2020. However, we just can guess it, the result surely is unpredictable.

>Another important thing: which team is more prepared both in mentality and strategy, those who will win the final match.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on July 08, 2021, 02:58:48 PM

What can I say about my prediction? I was close, because result is 4:0.

Guys, you should have to see what happened in ukrainian pubs and bars at 3rd of July. Angry disappointed people everywhere. In some places people crushed pubs stuff like goblets and tables.

This is the "normal".
The more you are going to west Europe the more you will find this kind of behavior.
I'm not saying we are better people here in the east-Centre Europe but in the west, they are more problematic.

Anywayyyy.

Chiesa should be able to recover for the final, he got a spasm during the last game.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 08, 2021, 03:29:56 PM

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He will have an undeniable Golden Boot if he overtakes Ronaldo in the number of goals scored, but if he just catches up with him, it seems to me that Ronaldo will have a clear advantage in terms of the number of matches played. Obviously, a player who scores the same number of goals in fewer matches deserves a reward.

Im not sure where do you got this from but this is not the rules. The official rules clearly state that the winner of the Golden Boot would be the player that scored the most goal in the entire Euro and in case of same number of goals then the tie breaker would be the number of assist. So Kane will need atleast 2 goals or another goal and two assist to overtake Ronaldo

I don't know if this is possible yet or not, but what if they have the same statistics on goals scored and assists? In my opinion, the player who made this achievement in fewer matches should get an advantage, but what do the rules say about this? In fact, I hardly remember such controversial situations in the past - apparently so far such a question has simply not arisen.

Yes it has. There was one EURO or World Cup when we had three guys with same number of goals. I am thinking Villa/Muller or Klose/one more. Not sure anymore if they had some tie breaker but I remember having a big bet on Villa and waiting for decision from bookies. What is funny I don't remember if I won the bet in the end

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Quote from: Smartvirus on July 08, 2021, 01:27:15 PM

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Harry Kane just needs one more goal to match Ronaldo and he has an advantage if he manages to bring England to the champion So Harry Kane has a bhttp://etter chance of getting the Golden Boot, only problem is the Italian defense is very strong so it is not easy for the opponent to score Harry Kane needs luck .

Harry Kane is no match for Italian defense line, sorry to say that. Yeah, I'm happy with the result from yesterday's game, with England beating Denmark to the finals, at least it would be a good to watch match becuase, England would be more challenging to Italy than it would have been with Denmark. The thing is, I strongly believe its going to be a win match for Italy.

About Harry kane breaking Ronaldo's record or equating it, it would be a hard to archive one with Italy as, they would be keeping a close watch on Kane and Sterling. They are the once that have contributed the most to the success of the English team so far. It won't be easy for these guys.

I agree, I do not see how Denmark could win against Italy and I even have problems thinking on them being able to compete against them, England at least has a chance not only in terms of the quality of their players but also in terms of the fact they are home and they are going to push themselves to the limit in order to win to give their fans the satisfaction to see them win, but after saying all of that I still think Italy is going to win this game as I think it is the best team out of the two.

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Quote from: mrjoy15 on July 08, 2021, 11:24:32 AM

Cristiano Ronaldo the top scorers at EURO 2020 so far, and leads the Golden Boot race. If Harry Kane shows another great performance at EURO 2020 Final overall math could be changed. He has been in great form since the start of this tournament. I would like to see Cristiano Ronaldo as player of the tournament and Harry Kane as Golden boot winners.

Ronaldo would definitely not be player of the tournament, He doesn't even come close If you're to name 5 players of the tournament if you ask me. There will be at least 2-3 players from both England, Italy and Denmark ahead of him. I would like to see him win the Golden Boot, but as for player of the tournament, it will be totally undeserving.

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Putting all my money on England now.

Don't take Italy too light, they seem to have a mission to lift the Euro 2020 and this mission is not impossible.

It's literally anyone's game, the Italians might be more solid defensively but then England does have the capacity and quality offensively to make the life really tough for the Bonucci and his folks at the back. I'll give the edge to Italy simply because they seemed more disciplined.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 08, 2021, 03:06:33 PM

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He will have an undeniable Golden Boot if he overtakes Ronaldo in the number of goals scored, but if he just catches up with him, it seems to me that Ronaldo will have a clear advantage in terms of the number of matches played. Obviously, a player who scores the same number of goals in fewer matches deserves a reward.

Im not sure where do you got this from but this is not the rules. The official rules clearly state that the winner of the Golden Boot would be the player that scored the most goal in the entire Euro and in case of same number of goals then the tie breaker would be the number of assist. So Kane will need atleast 2 goals or another goal and two assist to overtake Ronaldo

I don't know if this is possible yet or not, but what if they have the same statistics on goals scored and assists? In my opinion, the player who made this achievement in fewer matches should get an advantage, but what do the rules say about this? In fact, I hardly remember such controversial situations in the past - apparently so far such a question has simply not arisen.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on July 08, 2021, 02:58:48 PM

Guys, you should have to see what happened in ukrainian pubs and bars at 3rd of July. Angry disappointed people everywhere. In some places people crushed pubs stuff like goblets and tables.

Im not sure how to react to this. It was pretty hard for Ukraine to win against England though so there is no shame in losing and they should be proud that Ukraine got to the quarter finals

Quote from: KTChampions on July 08, 2021, 03:02:19 PM

He will have an undeniable Golden Boot if he overtakes Ronaldo in the number of goals scored, but if he just catches up with him, it seems to me that Ronaldo will have a clear advantage in terms of the number of matches played. Obviously, a player who scores the same number of goals in fewer matches deserves a reward.

Im not sure where do you got this from but this is not the rules. The official rules clearly state that the winner of the Golden Boot would be the player that scored the most goal in the entire Euro and in case of same number of goals then the tie breaker would be the number of assist. So Kane will need atleast 2 goals or another goal and two assist to overtake Ronaldo

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Denmark could have merited to reach the final. I liked their game yesterday, I think it was decided by a greater football experience that England has. And, frankly speaking, the penalty has been a huge concession.
Now there is the very last game, and as I mentioned in another thread Italy has all the qualities to get the cup with a clear win.
I am placing a big bet on Italy winning the cup in 90 minutes.

The final match is the most difficult match compared to other match during the competition. So far England and Italy are the two team that have never lost in the EURO 2020 competition as far as I know. Italy has a strong defense, while England have not conceded more than 2 goals so far. I think Italy have a greater chance of winning the title with defensive power and counter-attacking, but England cant be underestimated. I love England, but I have to say that Italy is a strong candidate for the title.

Denmark had a great option to reach the final, for now what I liked the most is the life story of the Denmark goalkeeper who followed in his father's footsteps, I am happy that the Nordic country has made history, although England has always had a much greater dominance, perhaps because of their history, now the two biggest teams in Europe will face each other in the final, for my part both teams are very good but my favorite is and has always been Italy, since the team was here dreamed led by Paolo Maldini and since that 1994 final of Brazil vs Italy when Roberto Baggio bounced the last goal.

I hope this generation will change all those expectations and be champion style.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 08, 2021, 01:16:26 PM

Harry Kane just needs one more goal to match Ronaldo and he has an advantage if he manages to bring England to the champion So Harry Kane has a better chance of getting the Golden Boot, only problem is the Italian defense is very strong so it is not easy for the opponent to score Harry Kane needs luck .

He will have an undeniable Golden Boot if he overtakes Ronaldo in the number of goals scored, but if he just catches up with him, it seems to me that Ronaldo will have a clear advantage in terms of the number of matches played. Obviously, a player who scores the same number of goals in fewer matches deserves a reward.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on July 02, 2021, 04:09:15 PM

and hope that we will not see loss of Ukraine to England Grin

(at least not something like 3:0)

What can I say about my prediction? I was close, because result is 4:0.

Guys, you should have to see what happened in ukrainian pubs and bars at 3rd of July. Angry disappointed people everywhere. In some places people crushed pubs stuff like goblets and tables.

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Quote from: Ratash on July 08, 2021, 02:16:54 PM

Quote from: mrjoy15 on July 08, 2021, 11:24:32 AM

Cristiano Ronaldo the top scorers at EURO 2020 so far, and leads the Golden Boot race. If Harry Kane shows another great performance at EURO 2020 Final overall math could be changed. He has been in great form since the start of this tournament. I would like to see Cristiano Ronaldo as player of the tournament and Harry Kane as Golden boot winners.

In my opinion it will be difficult for harry kane to score two goals in the final because the italy team is strong and so far they did not conceid two goals in one game so i think cristiano ronaldo will be the top sccorer and its well deserved he played 4 games and against strong teams not easy to score against.

Yes, it's difficult for Kane to score in the final even if it's only one goal, because I'm sure Kane will be guarded against by the Italian defense in the final. So yes, in the final match itself I believe it will be very difficult to score goals for both teams, seeing from the previous matches of these two teams at least they can make a strong defense to block the opponent's attack. Therefore, at least it is certain that even if there is a goal that is created at least it will not be created from a pure striker.

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For the sixteenth time Harry Kane has scored Kasper Schmiechel.
I knew he'll surely score because he's got a good scoring record against him in the premier league.
Let's see if Harry Kane can beat Ronaldo to the Golden Boot.
Congratulations to England, reaching there First final since 1966.

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^^ I would say it was a proper penalty. I understand that we are expecting major stuff in order to call it penalty because that has been what it is like in the past but these days in the past few years, maybe even in the last decade if you want to call it, there are more penalties called because we now realize that it doesn't have to be very dangerous tackle in order to get penalty, the meaning of penalty is basically giving someone punishment for doing something dangerous, by all means we all would rather have a game without any fouls neither, everyone tackling very professionally without doing anything dangerous but we all know that is impossible.

So, these years we see more penalty because defenders do act a bit more reckless and we can't just have injury risk things as penalty, we need to have dangerous moves as well so that when you give penalty players would know not to do it again. I feel like it was justified in that sense, it wasn't an easy call, but it was still a move that shouldn't have been.

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Quote from: Maidak on July 08, 2021, 11:38:14 AM

Quote from: mrjoy15 on July 08, 2021, 11:24:32 AM

Cristiano Ronaldo the top scorers at EURO 2020 so far, and leads the Golden Boot race. If Harry Kane shows another great performance at EURO 2020 Final overall math could be changed. He has been in great form since the start of this tournament. I would like to see Cristiano Ronaldo as player of the tournament and Harry Kane as Golden boot winners.

If Harry Kane will perform extraordionry in the final and wins the match then maybe he can get the Golden Boot. But if both Harry Kane and Messi perform well, then Messi will be ahead in the race to win the Golden Boot. I am optimistic that Messi will win the Golden Boot.

Harry Kane had to score two goals before he can get the golden boot, Cristiano Ronaldo has an assist as well right?
Messi's doing just brilliant, giving he's best always for the team, hopefully he adds this tittle to he's name as Well.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 08, 2021, 01:16:26 PM

Harry Kane just needs one more goal to match Ronaldo and he has an advantage if he manages to bring England to the champion So Harry Kane has a bhttp://etter chance of getting the Golden Boot, only problem is the Italian defense is very strong so it is not easy for the opponent to score Harry Kane needs luck .

Harry Kane is no match for Italian defense line, sorry to say that. Yeah, I'm happy with the result from yesterday's game, with England beating Denmark to the finals, at least it would be a good to watch match becuase, England would be more challenging to Italy than it would have been with Denmark. The thing is, I strongly believe its going to be a win match for Italy.

About Harry kane breaking Ronaldo's record or equating it, it would be a hard to archive one with Italy as, they would be keeping a close watch on Kane and Sterling. They are the once that have contributed the most to the success of the English team so far. It won't be easy for these guys.

Everything is possible in football, Harry Kane just have to be focused in the match against the Italians if he really wants to get goals at the back of the net,but I don't think it will be that easy for him.
Let's wait to see if he is capable of breaking the Italians defense.

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Quote from: mrjoy15 on July 08, 2021, 11:24:32 AM

Cristiano Ronaldo the top scorers at EURO 2020 so far, and leads the Golden Boot race. If Harry Kane shows another great performance at EURO 2020 Final overall math could be changed. He has been in great form since the start of this tournament. I would like to see Cristiano Ronaldo as player of the tournament and Harry Kane as Golden boot winners.

In my opinion it will be difficult for harry kane to score two goals in the final because the italy team is strong and so far they did not conceid two goals in one game so i think cristiano ronaldo will be the top sccorer and its well deserved he played 4 games and against strong teams not easy to score against.

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A lot of things have been said about the penalty yesterday, I have to agree with the most saying it wasn't one. I looked at it again a few times this morning, the contact is there but it is minimal.
The referee gave it immediately and I knew that VAR would not overturn it but it was a mistake not telling him he needs to see for himself.

England was much better and deserved to go through to the final though - but it will be hard to take for the Danes.

Forget about the plenty for a moment. If you were referee and you had to decided the result of the match based upon the performance in the 90 mins by both teams, whom will you declarer the winner ?
For me, England played far better than Denmark and rightly deserve the win.

England had 60% ball possession and a lot of more shoots on target, they definitely played better. Denmark had good efforts though and scored the first goal against England this tournament. In the end both Italy and England had to play both overtime, so both teams are a bit exhausted and now Italy has one day more rest till Sunday. It is hard to say who is going to win, but since England never won the EM before I think they will make it this year. Putting all my money on England now.

England have qualified for their first major Final since 1966 and will play Italy at Wembley on Sunday.england and Italy have faced each other 27 times and Italy have won 11 of the clashed with the Three Lions, with eight of them ending in draws the history of the past matches differs from the present of course personally i think italy will win the match , in bad case for italy the match will go to extra time .betting for italy to win or draw is better , This type of match sometimes ends with a draw i hope england to win but it seem italy have strong team and it not easy for england to win the cup

Quite obvious,there was a contact no doubt about it,the Danes became tired at the last minute of the game,Vastegaad had two other burst up with Sterling which wasn't awarded as well, beautiful goal the young lad.
Congratulations to the English men, reaching there final since 1966

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A lot of things have been said about the penalty yesterday, I have to agree with the most saying it wasn't one. I looked at it again a few times this morning, the contact is there but it is minimal.
The referee gave it immediately and I knew that VAR would not overturn it but it was a mistake not telling him he needs to see for himself.

England was much better and deserved to go through to the final though - but it will be hard to take for the Danes.

Forget about the plenty for a moment. If you were referee and you had to decided the result of the match based upon the performance in the 90 mins by both teams, whom will you declarer the winner ?
For me, England played far better than Denmark and rightly deserve the win.

England had 60% ball possession and a lot of more shoots on target, they definitely played better. Denmark had good efforts though and scored the first goal against England this tournament. In the end both Italy and England had to play both overtime, so both teams are a bit exhausted and now Italy has one day more rest till Sunday. It is hard to say who is going to win, but since England never won the EM before I think they will make it this year. Putting all my money on England now.

England have qualified for their first major Final since 1966 and will play Italy at Wembley on Sunday.england and Italy have faced each other 27 times and Italy have won 11 of the clashed with the Three Lions, with eight of them ending in draws the history of the past matches differs from the present of course personally i think italy will win the match , in bad case for italy the match will go to extra time .betting for italy to win or draw is better , This type of match sometimes ends with a draw i hope england to win but it seem italy have strong team and it not easy for england to win the cup

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 08, 2021, 01:16:26 PM

Harry Kane just needs one more goal to match Ronaldo and he has an advantage if he manages to bring England to the champion So Harry Kane has a bhttp://etter chance of getting the Golden Boot, only problem is the Italian defense is very strong so it is not easy for the opponent to score Harry Kane needs luck .

Harry Kane is no match for Italian defense line, sorry to say that. Yeah, I'm happy with the result from yesterday's game, with England beating Denmark to the finals, at least it would be a good to watch match becuase, England would be more challenging to Italy than it would have been with Denmark. The thing is, I strongly believe its going to be a win match for Italy.

About Harry kane breaking Ronaldo's record or equating it, it would be a hard to archive one with Italy as, they would be keeping a close watch on Kane and Sterling. They are the once that have contributed the most to the success of the English team so far. It won't be easy for these guys.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 08, 2021, 01:16:26 PM

Harry Kane just needs one more goal to match Ronaldo and he has an advantage if he manages to bring England to the champion So Harry Kane has a better chance of getting the Golden Boot, only problem is the Italian defense is very strong so it is not easy for the opponent to score Harry Kane needs luck .

He has the opportunity to match Ronaldo because no matter how good the Italian defense seem it is not impossible to never concede. From the start I wasn't really sure England could reach the final because they were too unpredictable. They made it through the challenges of group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals and semi-finals but they were too difficult to score many goals. For the final match, I would still predict England only managed to score 1 goal against Italy, whether it brought him the title or lost to Italy.

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