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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 08, 2021, 06:13:54 AM

A lot of things have been said about the penalty yesterday, I have to agree with the most saying it wasn't one. I looked at it again a few times this morning, the contact is there but it is minimal.
The referee gave it immediately and I knew that VAR would not overturn it but it was a mistake not telling him he needs to see for himself.

England was much better and deserved to go through to the final though - but it will be hard to take for the Danes.

The softest one I have seen in this tournament for sure. England was my pick anyway but they couldn't win it in extra time so they still screwed me as did Italy haha. Oh well.

But they were still slightly better I would say and you cannot say either finalist doesn't deserve being there.. though the same could have been said of Denmark and Spain.

Just praying Italy go back to attack in final. And Southgate too. I know he won't though. Not after coming so far.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 08, 2021, 06:47:20 AM

england - italy

I wonder how many people bet italy can win this game?

i bet england will win this game, italy has good defense and a good offense, but england's style of play will make it win against italy. despite the fact that in the games of england against italy, there were more draws, maybe in this game it will end in a draw and they will have to go to the penalties

I will bet on italy in the match with england even though we know this is the first time england have made it to the finals this year and meet italy, a little impressive Cheesy

I also believe England will definitely have the ball more than Italy but Italy can count on the counter-attacks so fast and the defense better this will be a balanced game and it's hard to decide maybe the result will be small but it could be extra time like in the semifinals

What happens if England win? wow as the host this would be a great win.

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Quote from: condoras on July 08, 2021, 07:32:10 AM

Can't say that's an easy game.
Plus that both had difficult semifinals and needed to play more than 90' minutes. At least we will see a very interesting game and I'm hoping for an early goal... Tongue

Yeah! This match will be a heated battle between two close teams. This should make for an excellent match with lots of goals and entertainment in the stands. England fans will not want to miss this one. It should be a great party at Wembley Stadium.

From my opinion, I think that Italy has an edge in their recent performances. But, it will be a close match.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 08, 2021, 06:47:20 AM

england - italy

I wonder how many people bet italy can win this game?

Am going for an Italy win because I know England will lose thir focus after being spoon fed with a penalty yesterday which will be repaid with a lose.

Quote from: Slow death on July 08, 2021, 06:47:20 AM

i bet england will win this game, italy has good defense and a good offense, but england's style of play will make it win against italy. despite the fact that in the games of england against italy, there were more draws, maybe in this game it will end in a draw and they will have to go to the penalties

The fact that you have acknowledged Italys attributes tells me these guys are good enough to be crowned champions and talking of penalties...should the game come to this as the decider its anybodies game and I still feel Italy will win it.

That 55 years of being trophyless will continue for England.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 08, 2021, 06:47:20 AM

england - italy

I wonder how many people bet italy can win this game?

i bet england will win this game, italy has good defense and a good offense, but england's style of play will make it win against italy. despite the fact that in the games of england against italy, there were more draws, maybe in this game it will end in a draw and they will have to go to the penalties

I will go for the opposite result my friend and I will be among the ones that will bet for Italy's win. Grin

England has the upper hand, their anticipation and psychology are in its pick and they play on Wembley but on the other hand, is one game. A final with Italy. Can't say that's an easy game.
Plus that both had difficult semifinals and needed to play more than 90' minutes. At least we will see a very interesting game and I'm hoping for an early goal... Tongue

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 07, 2021, 01:33:51 PM

This is an easy straight bet for England at 1.76 - 1.80 depending on what book you use. But if you guys want to squeeze out more value then going for England to win to nil at 2.50 should be good. England has been keeping a clean sheet as of late.

A win for England ? Possible... An easy one ? I think not.

Denmark in my opinion will definitely ask more questions of the England's defense than the Ukrainians did in the Quarter finals. I would not expect an easy win and Denmark to score is likely outcome in you ask me, the only game in which they've failed to score in this tournament was in their opening fixture, in which of course everyone expected them to win effortlessly if not for the unfortunate occurrence.

Turned out you were right. I didn’t factor in that it was the semis and Denmark wants to bring it home as bad as any in the tourney. Those fouls commited by Denmark alone should pretty much show how much the wanted to win it... Too bad Sterling knew what was up and dived his way to get the soft penalty. ROFL.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 08, 2021, 06:47:20 AM

england - italy

I wonder how many people bet italy can win this game?

i bet england will win this game, italy has good defense and a good offense,

Of course I will be looking for England to win for 120 minutes without a penalty. But if there is a penalty maybe Italy can do better and win. I'm not very optimistic about the England goalkeeper's performance, at times he looked nervous and gave the wrong passes. I'm guessing 2-1 for England in 120 minutes.

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england - italy

I wonder how many people bet italy can win this game?

i bet england will win this game, italy has good defense and a good offense, but england's style of play will make it win against italy. despite the fact that in the games of england against italy, there were more draws, maybe in this game it will end in a draw and they will have to go to the penalties

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Quote from: delfastTions on July 08, 2021, 06:14:56 AM

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After the match with Spain, it seemed to me that they have problems in the team play and the placement of players. But this is just my personal opinion.

What do you mean by team play? Is it like set pieces from free kicks and corners?

There's that popular phrase that says styles makes the difference in a fight. I think Spain's ability to keep the ball and great passing is what made them a tough match up for Italy.

England is playing differently which I think is more suitable for Italy's style.
I find it tough to pick a winner or if both teams will score.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on July 08, 2021, 04:29:40 AM

if there is no own goal by the captain of Denmark then they will definitely advance to the final but England luck is really big in that match
I can't imagine how he blamed himself for his unintentional carelessness

Have you seen the own goal, though? It's not like he belted it in from the edge of the area, or it took a huge deflection that wrong-footed the keeper. It's extremely harsh to call it carelessness. Basically the ball was coming to Sterling, a couple of yards out in front of an empty net. The defender could either hit it in himself, or let Sterling do it. It would have been a miracle if he'd managed to stop the ball going in.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on July 08, 2021, 02:43:32 AM

But in this instance, what would have happened if the referee hadn't given the penalty?

I don't know. Isn't that the famous butterfly effect?

Well, the answer is given in the post below yours:

Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 08, 2021, 04:01:25 AM

It would have been starting to rain with Englishmen in the Danish area Grin

Quote from: leea-1334 on July 08, 2021, 04:16:07 AM

But luck is with the English. They got the own goal and got the rebound. Can Italy survive this luck?

Kane's penalty was weak, and he was certainly lucky that the rebound came to him. Similarly they were lucky to be awarded the penalty. But...
England were unlucky:
1. not to get a penalty earlier,
2. to concede the foul for Denmark's free-kick goal,
3. when Sterling's shot from point-blank range hit Schmeichel's body,
4. the numerous times the ball pinged about in the Denmark area and didn't fall to an English player.

Both teams had chances, but who, really, on the balance of play, had the better chances and was the better team? England deserved to go through.

As for the final though, Italy are better than England and have to be favourites.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on July 07, 2021, 05:19:25 PM

it's actually quite fitting that they main host of the Euro 2020 (5 out of 6 games playing at home) get that penalty call..."home advantage" Roll Eyes

jokes aside, England deserved the win. Denmark were very poor but mainly cos their opponent dominated the entire match.

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Quote from: aoluain on July 07, 2021, 04:51:57 PM

bad decisions like that are part of the game even with VAR.

? ? ? ? ?
the main reason VAR was created was to avoid bad decisions

I totally agree but the main man, the ref didnt use it, he relied on someone in a studio.

He should have taken a look himself, that is what the side line screen is for, especially at
a crucial time in the match.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on July 08, 2021, 06:00:42 AM

With England successfully progressing into the finals, I believe it will be an exciting match between England and Italy as both of these teams are in excellent form at the moment.

I would disagree with you that the Italian team is in great shape.
After the match with Spain, it seemed to me that they have problems in the team play and the placement of players. But this is just my personal opinion. I cannot say 100% that by July 11th they will not be able to fix their mistakes. Perhaps even already done!
In any case, two excellent teams made it to the final and it promises to be interesting. I'm looking forward to the game.

Yes I'm not sure Italy is in excellent form, Spain were able to improve their game and
negate Italy's effectiveness. England really had the upper hand against Denmark but
werent able to finish a lot of chances, I think 50/50 is about right.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on July 08, 2021, 06:00:42 AM

With England successfully progressing into the finals, I believe it will be an exciting match between England and Italy as both of these teams are in excellent form at the moment.

I would disagree with you that the Italian team is in great shape.
After the match with Spain, it seemed to me that they have problems in the team play and the placement of players. But this is just my personal opinion. I cannot say 100% that by July 11th they will not be able to fix their mistakes. Perhaps even already done!
In any case, two excellent teams made it to the final and it promises to be interesting. I'm looking forward to the game.

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A lot of things have been said about the penalty yesterday, I have to agree with the most saying it wasn't one. I looked at it again a few times this morning, the contact is there but it is minimal.
The referee gave it immediately and I knew that VAR would not overturn it but it was a mistake not telling him he needs to see for himself.

England was much better and deserved to go through to the final though - but it will be hard to take for the Danes.

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Actually Denmark did played quite well against England yesterday as they were still able to force England into extra time. In my opinion, Denmark have an easier route to get into the semi finals as their opponents starting from the round of 16 was Wales and Czech Republic but I guess England was just too strong for Denmark to handle. With England successfully progressing into the finals, I believe it will be an exciting match between England and Italy as both of these teams are in excellent form at the moment.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 08, 2021, 05:49:59 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on July 08, 2021, 03:01:23 AM

Didn't watch it either, all the games are just way too late for me (so kind of frustrating for all these internationals halfway round the globe!).

Here in India, matches are scheduled at 12:30 am - 2:30 am. I watched the first semi-final between Spain and Italy, but then it was impossible to watch the second one between England and Denmark, since it happened the very next day. My office work starts at 9am, so I need to get up by around 7:30am-8:00 am, which is not possible if I watch these matches. Now they have scheduled the next match on Sunday, which is again a very poor decision. Ideally they should have scheduled it on Saturday.

These are the normal times for all matches.
The same happens when the games are outside Europe, the times are the same in the country where the games take place.

The final is usually on Sunday, because normally in these international competitions there is a third and fourth place game, which takes place on Saturday. It's true that at the European Football Championship this game doesn't exist. But keep the same standard calendar.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 08, 2021, 01:13:51 AM

I think Italy vs England is an ideal final, it's like a classic fight between two countries which has a good football competition and a great football history. Both England and Italy have the same great opportunity to become champions, so everything will be decided on the field.

The match is equal but England will play at their home stadium, Wembley.

Italy have amazing Euro so far that many of us did not think they can when the Euro starts. Italy looks to have better results in history than England but in a final match, and with equal power for both, either Italy or England will win it.

It will depend on how England starts the final. If they start too hurry, they might be punished by Italian boys.

Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 08, 2021, 01:13:51 AM

My guess is the match will be decided in extra time or even a penalty shootout.

England does not have good record in penalty shootouts so as Italy but if the match goes with penalty, I believe in Italy and Donnarumma. The young goal keeper is very talented and seems to have good penalty-saving skills.

Quote from: Strongkored on July 08, 2021, 04:19:24 AM

You are right that the chances of both countries are equal to be champions, even though England is the host but often in football it doesn't really matter.
England often are not get good result at big tournament, but maybe it's time for England to lift the trophy.

As said, chance is equal for both but I bet on Italy.

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Quote from: slaman29 on July 08, 2021, 03:01:23 AM

Didn't watch it either, all the games are just way too late for me (so kind of frustrating for all these internationals halfway round the globe!).

Here in India, matches are scheduled at 12:30 am - 2:30 am. I watched the first semi-final between Spain and Italy, but then it was impossible to watch the second one between England and Denmark, since it happened the very next day. My office work starts at 9am, so I need to get up by around 7:30am-8:00 am, which is not possible if I watch these matches. Now they have scheduled the next match on Sunday, which is again a very poor decision. Ideally they should have scheduled it on Saturday.

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Quote from: 3meek on July 08, 2021, 02:35:18 AM

The second half was not interesting... The English were lucky in extra time to be allowed to kick a very controversial penalty!Especially as there were two balls on the field when Sterling went down! Hopefully in the final, in England, Italy will punish them properly!

Yes, there were three things that were funny about that penalty and why it shouldn't have counted. First, it wasn't a foul, second, as you wrote, there was a second ball on the field so the referee should have blown his whistle before Sterling even got into the box. And third, there was a vice pointer attack on the goalie Schmeichel during the penalty. The English seem to want to steal the long-awaited title by any means. It's like on their first and only title 1966, when they became world champion at home(!) with a goal which was not a goal.

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Quote from: Strongkored on July 08, 2021, 04:19:24 AM

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They will play very carefully so this possibility is very big.
I prefer to bet on BTTS

will be interesting, but I would not count on BTTS, team that score will go in total defense, just look at England in their semi-final
nearing the match end, players will get tired, and that could bring some mistakes and goals, but I do not expect much from strikers during the match, both teams will force defense, and probably one goal would be a decider, eventually 2 goals in the net, but from the same team

my bet is with Italy

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Quote from: batako on July 08, 2021, 01:57:32 AM

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If there was no own goal, it would be Denmark who would advance to the final. England is very difficult to score goal in normal time. They were confused by the brilliant Danish tactics. Unfortunately, luck said otherwise, Denmark had to be eliminated after extra time. Sad

right, if there is no own goal by the captain of Denmark then they will definitely advance to the final but England luck is really big in that match
I can't imagine how he blamed himself for his unintentional carelessness

now Italy welcomes England in the final, it will be a big game and I will still place my bet on England
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