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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed,[/b] but account sales are discouraged.[/b]
Is there any kind of reference to support the fact that account sales are discouraged? If so could that quote be referenced? and if not could that statement be removed from this rule?
theymos or BadBear mentioned it in the staff board a while ago. As the list isn't exactly official, they also focus on the general opinion of the forum and staff. The "discouraged" might hint that if you farm accounts with not so great posts, you are at a quite big risk of getting banned as well. In other words, it stays.

What if you farm accounts and spend a lot of time neg-repping other accounts?  Is there any conflict-of-interest inherent in pairing those activities?  (To be clear, if you neg-rep many accounts, then you drive up the demand for sold accounts without any neg-reps; also you're in-the-know about which accounts are bought (by your customers) and you can avoid neg-repping them as a favor).
It really depends on the neg-repping. If it's spammy feedback, you are in trouble, if it's not, you're not. We can't get into someone's mind to find out why they neg-repped someone. I'm not sure how the forum handles rep from banned users though.

In the community feedback scene, if someone found out, it would be a massive shitstorm and effectively his valuable accounts would get flooded with less than desirable feedback. A lot of what we don't police, we expect the community to pursue if they feel like it's important to them. Hence why I mentioned that selling accounts is discouraged as the community tends to police that and mark said accounts.

EDIT: In other news, I've posted sticky threads in Altcoin Discussion, Announcements (Altcoins), Mining (Altcoins) and Marketplace (Altcoins) linking to this one as after more than a few cases, I can safely say that a lot of members tend to miss this thread in Meta and end up breaking rules on accident.

EDIT 2: Also, changed the question regarding FUD:

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Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

by adding some info to the end of it:

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However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

Also added another question after it:

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Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somehwere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed,[/b] but account sales are discouraged.[/b]
Is there any kind of reference to support the fact that account sales are discouraged? If so could that quote be referenced? and if not could that statement be removed from this rule?
theymos or BadBear mentioned it in the staff board a while ago. As the list isn't exactly official, they also focus on the general opinion of the forum and staff. The "discouraged" might hint that if you farm accounts with not so great posts, you are at a quite big risk of getting banned as well. In other words, it stays.

What if you farm accounts and spend a lot of time neg-repping other accounts?  Is there any conflict-of-interest inherent in pairing those activities?  (To be clear, if you neg-rep many accounts, then you drive up the demand for sold accounts without any neg-reps; also you're in-the-know about which accounts are bought (by your customers) and you can avoid neg-repping them as a favor).
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed,[/b] but account sales are discouraged.[/b]
Is there any kind of reference to support the fact that account sales are discouraged? If so could that quote be referenced? and if not could that statement be removed from this rule?
theymos or BadBear mentioned it in the staff board a while ago. As the list isn't exactly official, they also focus on the general opinion of the forum and staff. The "discouraged" might hint that if you farm accounts with not so great posts, you are at a quite big risk of getting banned as well. In other words, it stays.
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Yeah, I've always thought that wasn't really true. It's more of a neutral thing in my opinion ie they're neither discouraged or encouraged.
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed,[/b] but account sales are discouraged.[/b]
Is there any kind of reference to support the fact that account sales are discouraged? If so could that quote be referenced? and if not could that statement be removed from this rule?
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I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum?  

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.
Allowed as long as it's not the only part of the post. Racist remarks along a constructive post (arguments, reasons) are allowed as if he wants to make himself look stupid, we don't want to stop him from doing so. However, if it's just a personal attack, then it will be deleted.

I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum?  

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.

AFAIK Yes but if the post is really insulting, it (probably) will be deleted.
It isn't based on severity but the content alongside it.

I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum?  

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.

AFAIK Yes but if the post is really insulting, it (probably) will be deleted.

I was told by the MOD that even abusive comments aren't deleted nor are personal attacks or threatening comments deleted. Racist comments are hurting but they aren't against the rules. Only Spam is deleted.
Posts consisting ONLY of personal attacks will be deleted. Threats of bodily harm and death threats are removed as well.

Ok thanks, that is good to know!  I won't report racist, offensive or sexist comments anymore then if it is just wasting everyones time.
I guess I should have been able to work it out for myself, almost the entire politics and society secotion would be deleted if abuse wasn't allowed!

If you check that section, it has not been assigned to any moderator and hence very rarely comments get deleted if found spammy. I mostly avoid that section as I don't want to get abused and I have also seen threatening comments made to members. It's considered as a cyber crime and even FB and Twitter allows users to report such comments but this forum does not moderate it. It's better to ignore that section as all immature members are active there.
The Politics and Society, in my opinion, is polluted by either extremists, conspiracy theorists and the pro-russian propagandists (in light of the Ukranian conflict) bashing anyone who's not a pro-russian propagandist and denying facts the rest of the world agreed was true. As the section lacked a dedicated moderator, it has grew into a sort of mini Altcoin board type scene where the point is not to hear someone else's ideas but to bash anyone not agreeing to yours. As per the freedom of speech that this forum advocates, such comments remain as long as they actually express arguments. Although there are some intelligent people there, it's quite overwhelmed by the overall toxic environment of the board.
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Ok thanks, that is good to know!  I won't report racist, offensive or sexist comments anymore then if it is just wasting everyones time.
I guess I should have been able to work it out for myself, almost the entire politics and society secotion would be deleted if abuse wasn't allowed!

If you check that section, it has not been assigned to any moderator and hence very rarely comments get deleted if found spammy. I mostly avoid that section as I don't want to get abused and I have also seen threatening comments made to members. It's considered as a cyber crime and even FB and Twitter allows users to report such comments but this forum does not moderate it. It's better to ignore that section as all immature members are active there.
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I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum? 

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.

AFAIK Yes but if the post is really insulting, it (probably) will be deleted.

I was told by the MOD that even abusive comments aren't deleted nor are personal attacks or threatening comments deleted. Racist comments are hurting but they aren't against the rules. Only Spam is deleted.
Ok thanks, that is good to know!  I won't report racist, offensive or sexist comments anymore then if it is just wasting everyones time.
I guess I should have been able to work it out for myself, almost the entire politics and society secotion would be deleted if abuse wasn't allowed!
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I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum? 

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.

AFAIK Yes but if the post is really insulting, it (probably) will be deleted.

I dont think they will. I think its good that racism, sexism, homophobia etc. is not censored. It should be allowed for people to make themself look foolish.
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I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum? 

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.

AFAIK Yes but if the post is really insulting, it (probably) will be deleted.

I was told by the MOD that even abusive comments aren't deleted nor are personal attacks or threatening comments deleted. Racist comments are hurting but they aren't against the rules. Only Spam is deleted.
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I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum? 

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.

AFAIK Yes but if the post is really insulting, it (probably) will be deleted.
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I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum? 

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?

Yes it is. I always report them and they're handled eventually and I handle the ones I can (made by newbies), but I think there's a lack of Global Moderators and Marketplace mods that can handle them, not to mention they're probably not a top priority and deleting posts, especially many, takes longer than dealing with other reports etc.

hillarious, what about the necro bumps here by Quickseler/ACCTSeller: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11140169

These bumps were part of a smear campaign to dig up potential dirt on me.  Certainly this is not how people on Default Trust are supposed to be behaving?

Necros are fine if they are on topic and contribute to the discussion. Whether or not Quickseller contributed to the disccusion or "just brought it back" is certainly subjective.

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Regarding necro posting, if the necro post is substantial (doesn't break the rule especially rule 1 and 2 (2014/07/21 version)), then it's OK.
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?

Yes it is. I always report them and they're handled eventually and I handle the ones I can (made by newbies), but I think there's a lack of Global Moderators and Marketplace mods that can handle them, not to mention they're probably not a top priority and deleting posts, especially many, takes longer than dealing with other reports etc.

hillarious, what about the necro bumps here by Quickseler/ACCTSeller: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11140169

These bumps were part of a smear campaign to dig up potential dirt on me.  Certainly this is not how people on Default Trust are supposed to be behaving?
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Just wondering if a sensible choice to get rid o +1, thank you, etc. posts is to put something like this in the rules: You should edit your original post instead and add a line there, like e.g.: Edit: Thank you to for your help/clarification.

See also:

===>>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/posts-deleted-1029540
===>>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/are-members-of-sig-ad-campaigns-only-banned-or-other-members-as-well-are-banned-1028881
That's kind of covered by rule 1. If people post zero value posts now, they'll post them even if a new rule is in place.

+1. However, a suggestion remind could still help.....at least lazy people!  Wink
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Just wondering if a sensible choice to get rid o +1, thank you, etc. posts is to put something like this in the rules: You should edit your original post instead and add a line there, like e.g.: Edit: Thank you to for your help/clarification.

See also:

===>>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/posts-deleted-1029540
===>>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/are-members-of-sig-ad-campaigns-only-banned-or-other-members-as-well-are-banned-1028881
That's kind of covered by rule 1. If people post zero value posts now, they'll post them even if a new rule is in place.
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Just wondering if a sensible choice to get rid o +1, thank you, etc. posts is to put something like this in the rules: You should edit your original post instead and add a line there, like e.g.: Edit: Thank you to for your help/clarification.

See also:

===>>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/posts-deleted-1029540
===>>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/are-members-of-sig-ad-campaigns-only-banned-or-other-members-as-well-are-banned-1028881
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Also, when new faucets and faucet rotators are released, they spam in Beginners and Help. It doesn't look right IMHO. Any reason why no action is taken?

There was some discussion about moving new faucet announcements to it's own subforum. Not sure if the demand was enough to actually do it, but a large percentage of posts are currently about faucets anyways.

I didn't mean faucets and faucet rotators in Service Announcements. It is fine but these threads in Beginners & Help isn't right IMHO. It should eitherbe deleted or moved to Archival because of most of these are already announced in Service Announcements.

To your post: A new board is necessary but it will take sometime like it took time for Trashcan v2.0(aka Investor-based Games).
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Why does BTCJam forum name verification in Games and Rounds? Shouldn't it be in Services?
Might be due to the fact that they generate a lot of low value posts, just like giveaways in Games and rounds.

It is possible. I reported it one or two times but report was probably ignored or marked as bad. So want to know the reason. Thank you!

Also, when new faucets and faucet rotators are released, they spam in Beginners and Help. It doesn't look right IMHO. Any reason why no action is taken?

There was some discussion about moving new faucet announcements to it's own subforum. Not sure if the demand was enough to actually do it, but a large percentage of posts are currently about faucets anyways.
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Why does BTCJam forum name verification in Games and Rounds? Shouldn't it be in Services?
Might be due to the fact that they generate a lot of low value posts, just like giveaways in Games and rounds.

It is possible. I reported it one or two times but report was probably ignored or marked as bad. So want to know the reason. Thank you!

Also, when new faucets and faucet rotators are released, they spam in Beginners and Help. It doesn't look right IMHO. Any reason why no action is taken?
I, at least, handle such reports and move the threada but other moderators might think otherwise.
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