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Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 31, 2023, 12:40:40 AM

Quote from: AprilioMP on July 30, 2023, 11:13:23 PM

For Bitcoin there are four types of addresses that I see in this wallet: Legacy, SegWit, Native SegWit and Taproot.

BIP49 is nested segwit, it is not called segwit. It is even not segwit. It is called nested segwit. The segwit are the BIP84 and BIP86 which are called native segwit and pay-to-taproot.

Unstoppable wallets supports all the four addresses, but native segwit and pay-to-taproot are the ones recommended, to save fee. I can only refer to legacy and nested segwit addresses if someone asked about it.

The first factor that made me choose to use an unstoppable wallet on mobile is because it is open source, non-custodial and private apart from having several types of addresses.
When you have explained to me where the difference between BIP84 and BIP49 is, now I know and I still haven't added it to my wallet.

Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 31, 2023, 12:40:40 AM

Quote from: AprilioMP on July 30, 2023, 11:13:23 PM

I have used Electrum on my computer. Bluewallet is nowhere for me to install because no MacBook. For Android, I use an unstoppable wallet.

Bluewallet has Android version as well. It has iOS and MacOS versions also.

I've heard about the bluewallet wallet, maybe I'll try using it when I'm ready to make a transaction.
In bluewallet is it available to do bitcoin testnet (sending and receiving)?

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Quote from: AprilioMP on July 30, 2023, 11:13:23 PM

For Bitcoin there are four types of addresses that I see in this wallet: Legacy, SegWit, Native SegWit and Taproot.

BIP49 is nested segwit, it is not called segwit. It is even not segwit. It is called nested segwit. The segwit are the BIP84 and BIP86 which are called native segwit and pay-to-taproot.

Unstoppable wallets supports all the four addresses, but native segwit and pay-to-taproot are the ones recommended, to save fee. I can only refer to legacy and nested segwit addresses if someone asked about it.

Quote from: AprilioMP on July 30, 2023, 11:13:23 PM

Wallet unstoppable supports fee rate settings when I try to press the send button and set it in the settings icon in the upper right corner.
Before I entered the fee rate setting, when I pressed the fee button this message appeared:

Customizing the fee is not the same as replace-by-fee. Unstoppable wallet does not support replace-by-fee and coin control.

Quote from: AprilioMP on July 30, 2023, 11:13:23 PM

I have used Electrum on my computer. Bluewallet is nowhere for me to install because no MacBook. For Android, I use an unstoppable wallet.

Bluewallet has Android version as well. It has iOS and MacOS versions also.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 29, 2023, 02:28:39 AM

Quote from: AprilioMP on July 28, 2023, 11:48:38 AM

Open source, Non-custodial, Private, and support for many coins are the reasons I chose this wallet including available charts to analyze the market.

It is a good altcoins wallet. For Bitcoin, it supoort native segwit and pay-to-taproot addresses, but it is not supporting many other features.

For Bitcoin there are four types of addresses that I see in this wallet: Legacy, SegWit, Native SegWit and Taproot.

Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 29, 2023, 02:28:39 AM

The one I most consider is to support replace-by-fee, but not supporting it.

Wallet unstoppable supports fee rate settings when I try to press the send button and set it in the settings icon in the upper right corner.
Before I entered the fee rate setting, when I pressed the fee button this message appeared:

Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 29, 2023, 02:28:39 AM

If you need better bitcoin wallet, use Electrum, Sparrow or Bluewallet. Others are Blockstream Green, Samourai and Specter.

I have used Electrum on my computer. Bluewallet is nowhere for me to install because no MacBook. For Android, I use an unstoppable wallet.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on July 28, 2023, 11:48:38 AM

Open source, Non-custodial, Private, and support for many coins are the reasons I chose this wallet including available charts to analyze the market.

It is a good altcoins wallet. For Bitcoin, it supoort native segwit and pay-to-taproot addresses, but it is not supporting many other features. The one I most consider is to support replace-by-fee, but not supporting it.

If you need better bitcoin wallet, use Electrum, Sparrow or Bluewallet. Others are Blockstream Green, Samourai and Specter.

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Quote from: Husires on January 21, 2023, 10:29:00 AM

Please reply only after downloading and use that wallet.
You can email the team if there are any bugs or future recommendations.

Finally I chose this wallet that I will use on my smartphone after reading many suggestions.
I have installed the wallet, I have backed up the required 12 words with passphrase.
I still haven't mastered the total knowledge of wallets. So, if later there are problems in use, I will definitely get a solution easily, considering that many people who recommend this wallet have every question about mobile wallets.

Open source, Non-custodial, Private, and support for many coins are the reasons I chose this wallet including available charts to analyze the market.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 21, 2023, 11:09:22 AM

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 18, 2023, 11:21:10 AM

My suggestion is to contact their support team, unless you are willing to experiment yourself with real coins.

Are they offering active support somewhere? They have different social media channels like reddit, Discord, and GitHub. That's probably the best way. Their Telegram channel is only for announcements - no support there. I don't remember if there was a live chat option back when I tested the wallet briefly. Another option is to get in touch with the Horizontal Systems team.

I don't know which support is the most active, but the option to contact via twitter DM, or on Discord so far is usually always active.
Or send some questions or complaints via email.

Quote from: Pmalek on July 21, 2023, 11:09:22 AM

Too bad that they forgot the most important part - swaps between Tron and Tron-based tokens and other cryptocurrencies. It's questionable whether or not it will be added in the future.

For Tron exchange support is not yet integrated, but exchanges for other tokens on several networks such as ERC20, BEP20, POLYGON, ARBITRUM, OPTIMISM etc.
are already available integrations with DEX 1Inch, Uniswap, Pancakeswap etc.

and in the future, Unstoppable Swallow will also complete integration with DEX Thorchain which allows for decentralized exchange between asset types such as BTC, ETH, LTC, ZEC, BCH, BNB, ERC20, and BEP20.

It seems that there will be many updates in the future, perhaps the addition of BRIDGE will be needed as well.

Send your request to the developers to integrate the DEX Exchange for Tron assets, the more requests, the faster it will be integrated.

Source: https://unstoppable.money/faq

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 18, 2023, 11:21:10 AM

My suggestion is to contact their support team, unless you are willing to experiment yourself with real coins.

Are they offering active support somewhere? They have different social media channels like reddit, Discord, and GitHub. That's probably the best way. Their Telegram channel is only for announcements - no support there. I don't remember if there was a live chat option back when I tested the wallet briefly. Another option is to get in touch with the Horizontal Systems team.

Quote from: taufik123 on July 21, 2023, 04:06:40 AM

Now for the latest update, you can use the Tron Network in Unstoppable Wallet.
It is already fully Integrated

Too bad that they forgot the most important part - swaps between Tron and Tron-based tokens and other cryptocurrencies. It's questionable whether or not it will be added in the future.

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 13, 2023, 07:16:06 AM

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I was interested in trying the wallet due to some USDT I have on Tron, but they don't support that network at all. The only way to know for sure is to install the client and try to find and enable the assets from the list. If it doesn't work, they don't support it.

Now for the latest update, you can use the Tron Network in Unstoppable Wallet.
It is already fully Integrated

Code:

TRON SUPPORT

In this release, we finally introduced full support for Tron blockchain. This has been one of the most requested features on our Githab and couldn't be postponed any further.

Unstoppable wallet users are now able to:

- store/send/receive TRX cryptocurrency
- import Tron wallets from other wallet apps
- store/send/receive tokens issued on the Tron blockchain

Expect native TRX staking ability in the coming releases. We might also integrate DEX swap for Tron assets if there is a significant demand for the feature.

Source: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases/tag/0.33.0

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 18, 2023, 11:21:10 AM

Quote from: thepeterson on July 18, 2023, 07:35:22 AM

Did anyone try the timelock of this wallet? The lock can be cancelled or not?

I never tried timelock feature on Unstoppable wallet, and I couldn't find more information anywhere on their website.
My suggestion is to contact their support team, unless you are willing to experiment yourself with real coins.
Note that TimeLock in Unstoppable is Experimental feature and maximum amount is limited to 0.5 BTC.

This is indeed an experimental feature in Unstoppable Wallet.
and this Time Lock feature is also part of horizontalsystems Project for Bitcoin Kit.

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hodler is a plugin to bitcoincore, that makes it possible to lock bitcoins until some time in the future. It relies on CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY and Relative time-locks. It may be used with other forks of Bitcoin that support them. UnstooppableWallet opts in this plugin and enables it for Bitcoin as an experimental feature.

How it works

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To lock funds we create P2SH output where redeem script has OP_CSV OpCode that ensures that the input has a proper Sequence Number(nSequence) field and that it enables a relative time-lock.

Source: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/bitcoin-kit-android/tree/master#hodler

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Quote from: thepeterson on July 18, 2023, 07:35:22 AM

Did anyone try the timelock of this wallet? The lock can be cancelled or not?

I never tried timelock feature on Unstoppable wallet, and I couldn't find more information anywhere on their website.
My suggestion is to contact their support team, unless you are willing to experiment yourself with real coins.
Note that TimeLock in Unstoppable is Experimental feature and maximum amount is limited to 0.5 BTC.

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Did anyone try the timelock of this wallet? The lock can be cancelled or not?

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Quote from: bettercrypto on May 16, 2023, 03:29:28 AM

This is one of the recommended wallets that is good to use because so far I have not had any problems with it. It provides good things when it comes to users who also use it.

As in affordability, security, censorship resistance and privacy too. So this unstoppable wallet is okay with me
and one of the great options as well.

For users who are using a Trust Wallet, I would recommend switching to the unstoppable wallet. I am not saying tha there is any issue with trust wallet but it's hard to trust 100% on trust wallet 1) because it is closed source and 2) It is owned by Binance and i don't feel comfortable with it.

Previously I was using Trust Wallet for altcoins storage but now i have migrated the majority of my coins from trust wallet to unstoppable wallet. In case, you can afford a hardware wallet, that's best but until you do not have hardware wallet, keep Unstoppable Wallet as your daily driver.

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This is one of the recommended wallets that is good to use because so far I have not had any problems with it. It provides good things when it comes to users who also use it.

As in affordability, security, censorship resistance and privacy too. So this unstoppable wallet is okay with me
and one of the great options as well.

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Quote from: DaveF on May 13, 2023, 06:46:23 AM

Quote from: Kryptowerk on May 13, 2023, 05:22:42 AM

This sounds intriguing - will check it out.

Any more user experience reports since last post from January?

I tried to find a list of supported shit-coins and tokens, but their website doesn't seem to give away much.
Their FAQ seems to only talk about Bitcoin, Ethereum and Binance-Chain. In the video I also see Solana, Polygon Dash and a few more, though.

Not that I can find. It's still displaying a bunch of coins that you cannot add and everything else is just scroll though the list.
I really don't understand their logic unless there was a lot more planned to happen faster and then it just didn't happen.

But a definitive list, or at least a list with a date of making the list and supported coins at that time would be nice.

I tried it a while ago, and it didn't work for me, tried back in January when I posted and again did not have support for some crap coins I use and I just took a look now and still does not support some basic ones. May check back sooner or later, but if they don't want to bother supporting some popular alts, as I said above it's going to really slow down the adoption of their app as people look for something that does.

-Dave

Yeah, sad story. Great initial attempt but no follow-through.
I did a little more research (without joining another discord) but this thing seems to be only semi-active and the lack of clear documentation is slightly discouraging at the moment.
Are there any multi-coin open source wallets that are actually running stable with a big support for many coins?

A nice desktop solution would also be interesting.

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Quote from: Kryptowerk on May 13, 2023, 05:22:42 AM

I tried to find a list of supported shit-coins and tokens, but their website doesn't seem to give away much.
Their FAQ seems to only talk about Bitcoin, Ethereum and Binance-Chain. In the video I also see Solana, Polygon Dash and a few more, though.

Yeah, the website is quite useless for that purpose. I see that they added a timeline on the top. Maybe you can follow it into the past to check the release notes to see if they mention which alts they included. They don't have a contact form, live chat or a support ticket. You might find more info on their Discord or reddit channels.

I was interested in trying the wallet due to some USDT I have on Tron, but they don't support that network at all. The only way to know for sure is to install the client and try to find and enable the assets from the list. If it doesn't work, they don't support it.

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Quote from: Kryptowerk on May 13, 2023, 05:22:42 AM

This sounds intriguing - will check it out.

Any more user experience reports since last post from January?

I tried to find a list of supported shit-coins and tokens, but their website doesn't seem to give away much.
Their FAQ seems to only talk about Bitcoin, Ethereum and Binance-Chain. In the video I also see Solana, Polygon Dash and a few more, though.

Not that I can find. It's still displaying a bunch of coins that you cannot add and everything else is just scroll though the list.
I really don't understand their logic unless there was a lot more planned to happen faster and then it just didn't happen.

But a definitive list, or at least a list with a date of making the list and supported coins at that time would be nice.

I tried it a while ago, and it didn't work for me, tried back in January when I posted and again did not have support for some crap coins I use and I just took a look now and still does not support some basic ones. May check back sooner or later, but if they don't want to bother supporting some popular alts, as I said above it's going to really slow down the adoption of their app as people look for something that does.

-Dave

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Disobey.

This sounds intriguing - will check it out.

Any more user experience reports since last post from January?

I tried to find a list of supported shit-coins and tokens, but their website doesn't seem to give away much.
Their FAQ seems to only talk about Bitcoin, Ethereum and Binance-Chain. In the video I also see Solana, Polygon Dash and a few more, though.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 23, 2023, 01:30:19 AM

Meh, I dislike it, been waiting 10 mins just for it to finish initial sync, why this wait when other wallets show the amounts almost instaneously?

Isn't that just the price you pay for privacy? I once checked a years-old backup of Bitcoin Wallet (on my old phone), and it took days to sync. I'm not sure how it works, but if this means they wallet's server doesn't know my addresses, it's worth the wait.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on January 26, 2023, 10:05:43 AM

Quote from: Husires on January 21, 2023, 10:29:00 AM

~Features:

Genuinely Private: There are no servers keeping user accounts or any kind of identifiers.

The claim makes it sound like you don't need to connect to a server, but how could that be possible?

As i mentioned earlier, Unstoppable wallet is SPV wallet using BIP 37[1]. It means this wallet connect to random node to obtain necessary data[2-3]. But BIP 37 is outdated and has privacy flaws[4].

[1] https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-ios/issues/3984
[2] https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/blob/6684a2d7882b30da5ea530fbd9a0567e8f41f161/fastlane/metadata/android/en-US/full_description.txt#L25
[3] https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/blob/6684a2d7882b30da5ea530fbd9a0567e8f41f161/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml#L788-L801
[4] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP37_privacy_problems

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on January 26, 2023, 02:34:06 PM

I want to apologies to Husires for not following his local rule; i.e. I did not download, install, or use the wallet app, and I will not until my concerns about these claims are addressed. Honestly, I'm growing more suspicious of this service, and the pretty website and polished-looking app isn't helping.

You are asking valid questions, but maybe it would be best to direct those questions to the developers and the people who created the wallet. GitHub is one point of reference, or you could email the team of Horizontal Systems through https://horizontalsystems.io/. If transparency and fairness is important to them, I don't see why they would ignore you and not provide the information you are looking for.

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 26, 2023, 12:34:18 PM

Despite the wallet's open-source nature, this is not something you can check. I don't think you can. Their servers may or may not be logging everything you do. I wonder how they could prove that isn't the case Huh

I see that the wallet is open source, but why isn't the server software available for review, regardless of it's licensing? Again, I may have missed it while I perusing their GitHub, but I dug fairly deep and didn't see anything relating the SPV server they use to connect wallets to nodes. Claims of "genuine privacy" and "decentralized" that are not only unsubstantiated, but also used in ways that come off as deceptive makes me nervous. This is the kind of stuff that breeds distrust in the cryptosphere.

I want to apologies to Husires for not following his local rule; i.e. I did not download, install, or use the wallet app, and I will not until my concerns about these claims are addressed. Honestly, I'm growing more suspicious of this service, and the pretty website and polished-looking app isn't helping.

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