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Quote from: virasog on February 04, 2024, 02:17:24 AM

Quote from: AprilioMP on February 01, 2024, 03:18:00 AM

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

That's the best thing you can do is to keep the Bitcoin in wallets that are made dedicated only for Bitcoin like Electrum, Sparrow wallet or the blue Wallet etc and keep the altcoins separately. I also follow a similar practice.

Based on the experiences of other people that I have followed and studied myself through reading habits, it is true that the best practice in storing assets such as Bitcoin is not to put them together in one wallet. Electrum is very popular and has been tested by many users, following in the footsteps of those who have recognized the advantages of Electrum as the best wallet, it is not wrong even though I am not as knowledgeable as they are.

I have never used Sparrow, but I still use Bluewallet for storing BTC which is not in large quantities.
And Unstoppable, I only use it as a wallet to store altcoins.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on February 01, 2024, 03:18:00 AM

placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

Keep your Bitcoins in cold storage, and only use hot wallets for small payments.

I will store this command in memory indefinitely.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on February 01, 2024, 03:18:00 AM

placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

This can't be repeated often enough: none of this is going to help you if your system is compromised. Keep your Bitcoins in cold storage, and only use hot wallets for small payments.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on February 01, 2024, 03:18:00 AM

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

That's the best thing you can do is to keep the Bitcoin in wallets that are made dedicated only for Bitcoin like Electrum, Sparrow wallet or the blue Wallet etc and keep the altcoins separately. I also follow a similar practice.

Quote from: NotATether on February 01, 2024, 03:29:47 AM

Most multi-coin wallets are made by companies that don't really put enough effort into security and auditing, and on top of that are also closed source. So the fact that we regularly hear about exploits against these kind of wallets is not surprising. Unstoppable Wallet is the exception, and it definitely is possible to make a wallet that can connect to bitcoin SPV nodes, EVM nodes, Polkadot, BSC, etc. but few people have the motivation for that.

People need to be educated about why they want to use or experiment with different multi-coin wallets (open source or closed source) ?
Simply if they use one wallet for the altcoins that is an Unstoppable wallet, that is enough to meet their needs and also have peace of mind that they are using a good trusted Open Source wallet. People mostly use trust wallets instead because of their extensive marketing but they need to know the difference and consequences of using an Open Source and a Closed source wallet.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on February 01, 2024, 03:18:00 AM

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

Most multi-coin wallets are made by companies that don't really put enough effort into security and auditing, and on top of that are also closed source. So the fact that we regularly hear about exploits against these kind of wallets is not surprising. Unstoppable Wallet is the exception, and it definitely is possible to make a wallet that can connect to bitcoin SPV nodes, EVM nodes, Polkadot, BSC, etc. but few people have the motivation for that.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on January 31, 2024, 11:36:53 AM

There are many bitcoin open source wallets like Electrum and Sparrow, or Bluewallet and Samourai for mobile that Unstoppable wallet can not be compared with. Bitcoin users will prefer to use those bitcoin-only wallet that has more functionality. No milticoin wallet that has more functionality that those bitcoin-only wallet if it about bitcoin.

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

Unstoppable is only an option for storing altcoins. No more than that. Just like you, I recommend Unstoppable Wallet for people who still use Trust Wallet as a wallet for storing altcoins.

Just wish they had the initiative to add coin control instead of them putting focus on altcoin types.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 31, 2024, 11:26:28 AM

Is it possible that there are no issues coming from github so they are not focusing on coin control for Bitcoin?
If we were the ones to suggest coin controls for Bitcoin, would they make that suggestion a priority and be executed?

Unstoppable wallet do not have replace-by-fee and child-pay-for-parent. No where to connect it to hardware wallet. No multisig function. I can not use it to spend coins with unconfirmed transaction. Unstoppable wallet have a long way to go if we are talking about bitcoin.

I just like how it is. Things are in a way I have my bitcoin separate from altcoins.

You can not use Unstoppable wallet offline as a cold wallet. Although, you can use it as a watch-only wallet.

There are still some syncing problem.

What I think should be fixed now is the litecoin, dash, zcash and other coins synching problem. Also to support other coins. I recommend a friend of mine the wallet. He complained to me that the wallet is not supporting doge and algo and some coins that he wants to gamble with. I think a wallet should support a coin that has a marketcap of over $1 billion.

There are many bitcoin open source wallets like Electrum and Sparrow, or Bluewallet and Samourai for mobile that Unstoppable wallet can not be compared with. Bitcoin users will prefer to use those bitcoin-only wallet that has more functionality. No milticoin wallet that has more functionality that those bitcoin-only wallet if it about bitcoin.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 31, 2024, 09:05:27 AM

Quote from: AprilioMP on January 30, 2024, 03:27:37 PM

Unstoppable has released several versions after releasing version 0.37.0.
As of version 0.37.1, sync issues in Tron and Bitcoin. In version 0.37.2, updated bitcoin-kit and I want to say that Unstoppable wallet in version 0.37.3 is the final version for now regarding Solana token balance sync.

Instead of adding solana and other junk they should work more on adding coin control for Bitcoin, and that should not be such a hard thing to do.
I don't see anyone suggesting that on their github page, but it would be good thing to do if someone has github or reddit/discord account.

Agreed. Adding coin control for Bitcoin if they are willing to do it, I don't think it's a hard thing to do. I also don't see anyone suggesting about it on their github.
Just try if coin control for Bitcoin is added to Unstoppable, maybe their Android version of the wallet will be at the top of other wallets that support more than one coin.

Is it possible that there are no issues coming from github so they are not focusing on coin control for Bitcoin?
If we were the ones to suggest coin controls for Bitcoin, would they make that suggestion a priority and be executed?

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 30, 2024, 03:27:37 PM

Unstoppable has released several versions after releasing version 0.37.0.
As of version 0.37.1, sync issues in Tron and Bitcoin. In version 0.37.2, updated bitcoin-kit and I want to say that Unstoppable wallet in version 0.37.3 is the final version for now regarding Solana token balance sync.

Instead of adding solana and other junk they should work more on adding coin control for Bitcoin, and that should not be such a hard thing to do.
I don't see anyone suggesting that on their github page, but it would be good thing to do if someone has github or reddit/discord account.

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Unstoppable has released several versions after releasing version 0.37.0.
As of version 0.37.1, sync issues in Tron and Bitcoin. In version 0.37.2, updated bitcoin-kit and I want to say that Unstoppable wallet in version 0.37.3 is the final version for now regarding Solana token balance sync.

Version 0.37.3. Released in the last 2 days.

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Quote from: virasog on January 13, 2024, 09:37:47 PM

There is no issue with my Litecoin and it instantly syncs once I open my unstoppable wallet. (Although i don't have much LTC in my wallet)

I noticed that BIP44 litecoin addresses are easier to synchronize with the blockchain, although it took up to 1 minutes before it did. I noticed that BIP 49 was the next. Followed by BIP84. While BIP 86 was the slowest that took more than 3 minutes to get to 26% just now and I did not wait for it to finish synchronizing.

You have coin on it. If you open the wallet often, likely you might not know the synchronizing issue. But if you just want to use it or enable it to be on your coin list, you will notice the issue. Litecoin transaction fee is low, can you transfer the coin and see if there is any issue as I had issue with it in the past with pending and failed transaction.

If you open your wallet daily, you may not know the issue, especially if you have the coin on your list and you have several coins in a way you are not seeing litecoin unless you scroll down. But if you leave your wallet for some days or a week without opening it, you will see the synchronizing issue.

I have a wallet on the two devices that I have left for like 2 months now, for litecoin they are not even synchronizing at all and showing a triangle in red. I mean on both devices.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on January 12, 2024, 10:21:03 AM

For litecoin, on my two mobile devices, it is not synchronizing at all now after I left it open for 5 minutes 0% synchronization. I tried it just now.

There is no issue with my Litecoin and it instantly syncs once I open my unstoppable wallet. (Although i don't have much LTC in my wallet)

Quote from: Charles-Tim on January 12, 2024, 10:21:03 AM

For dash, on both devices, it is very slow. The synchronization got to 26% after 5 minutes on the first device while 38% after 5 minutes on the second device. Also I tried it just now.

Previously I had ZEC selected in my wallet and it never syncs. I added dash today just to check and it also does not sync as shown in below screenshot. I don't know what could be the reason for this, maybe the unstoppable wallet has some issues syncing privacy coins Huh

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on January 12, 2024, 10:21:03 AM

I hope they can sort those issues out. The Unstoppable Wallet is a rare open-source occurrence in a sea of closed-source multi-coin software wallets in this industry. It would be too bad if they started losing their userbase because they can't get the basics right, like allowing people to sync their balances and make transactions properly. Fingers crossed.

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 12, 2024, 10:01:24 AM

I guess they are slowly working their way towards speeding up altcoin blockchains as well. Your reply is the opposite of what Charles-Tim said earlier. According to him, he now needs even more time to synchronize his Litecoin and Dash balances. Maybe it was just a temporary problem on his end or you have different assets, and some are now syncing faster, while others still aren't.

I have not tested bitcoin cash on it before but it synchronized very fast when I tried it just now.

For litecoin, on my two mobile devices, it is not synchronizing at all now after I left it open for 5 minutes 0% synchronization. I tried it just now.

For dash, on both devices, it is very slow. The synchronization got to 26% after 5 minutes on the first device while 38% after 5 minutes on the second device. Also I tried it just now.

That is not the only problem if you have this kind of coins. If you want to send them, it can be pending for minutes and later become failed. It happened when I wanted to send litecoin in the past. I tried it there times before it was send successfully. The third time that I sent the coin, it was first pending for several minutes if not hours.

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Quote from: virasog on January 12, 2024, 02:22:01 AM

Well they did mention in their version 0.37 update that there will be fast Bitcoin Sync and specifically mentioned for the bitcoin and bitcoin cash blockchains. However, i noticed that all other blockchain sync time is also considerably improved and the whole unstoppable wallets syncs within no time.

I guess they are slowly working their way towards speeding up altcoin blockchains as well. Your reply is the opposite of what Charles-Tim said earlier. According to him, he now needs even more time to synchronize his Litecoin and Dash balances. Maybe it was just a temporary problem on his end or you have different assets, and some are now syncing faster, while others still aren't.

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 09, 2024, 11:45:20 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on January 09, 2024, 02:41:54 AM

Looking at the release notes, the reason why syncing is significantly faster is because Unstoppable Wallet has integrated Blockchair.com's API service. Judging by how they worded the update, users can still use the 'old' and slow P2P synchronization option. I am glad they did it. When I originally tested this wallet, it took a long time to sync and took up too much space on my phone. Hopefully, Bitcoin is just the beginning of many other networks that will be improved in this way.

Well they did mention in their version 0.37 update that there will be fast Bitcoin Sync and specifically mentioned for the bitcoin and bitcoin cash blockchains. However, i noticed that all other blockchain sync time is also considerably improved and the whole unstoppable wallets syncs within no time.

I think this update was much awaited and by far the best update in term of satisfying the user experience of using the app. Yes, there may be more better security updates in previous updates but those are all in the backend. This update will be mostly liked and noticed by everyone using the Unstoppable Wallet.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on January 09, 2024, 02:41:54 AM

Looking at the release notes, the reason why syncing is significantly faster is because Unstoppable Wallet has integrated Blockchair.com's API service. Judging by how they worded the update, users can still use the 'old' and slow P2P synchronization option. I am glad they did it. When I originally tested this wallet, it took a long time to sync and took up too much space on my phone. Hopefully, Bitcoin is just the beginning of many other networks that will be improved in this way.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on January 09, 2024, 02:41:54 AM

0.37.0 was released a couple of weeks ago, but was only pushed to the play store yesterday

The only thing that is probably worth mentioning is the fast syncing for bitcoin. You can find the detailed changelog here[1]

[1] https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases

I have just updated to the latest version and I noticed there is no more synchronizing issue for bitcoin all address types. But it is not my bitcoin wallet. One of the reasons is because it is not supporting replace-by-fee and because I will like my bitcoin to be on a bitcoin-only wallet. I still enjoy Electrum and Sparrow to a greater extent, while Electrum, Bluewallet and Samourai on mobile devices. But this is a good improvement.

I hope Unstoppable wallet developers will do the same for altcoins that have the synchronizing issue. Like litecoin and dash. I checked both but still the same like before. Both even take longer time to synchronize than before.

Also for altcoins users, if more coins is added would be good. A friend of mine asked me a wallet that is supporting algorand some weeks ago. I searched for it on Unstoppable wallet and I was unable to see it. There are still other well known coins that the wallet is not supporting.

There is another one that I see as a major improvement, especially for newbies. Which is spam transaction filter that would be against address poisoning. I see this as a major improvement because some people send their altcoins to attacker's address this way and only noticed when it is too late already.

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0.37.0 was released a couple of weeks ago, but was only pushed to the play store yesterday

The only thing that is probably worth mentioning is the fast syncing for bitcoin. You can find the detailed changelog here[1]

[1] https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/releases

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I don't see a need to use Unstoppable Wallet for coins like Litecoin, Dash, Bitcoin, or Tron. All those assets have native wallets that you can use. And it's safer than using the same keys for all coins. In case something goes wrong and the keys leak or the wallet gets hacked, you wouldn't lose everything you have in your wallet. You only lose one asset, while the rest remains safe.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 28, 2023, 11:50:24 PM

I am talking about the ETH and this has the domoninace of 16% , the 2nd largest crypto currecny after bitcoin which has the dominance of almost 48%. I don't know how you call ETH a shitcoin Huh

How would you prefer me to call ethereum instead?
There are several synonyms I can use instead of word shit, for example crap, poop, dump, junk,etc.
Solana crap is now third or fourth by ''dominance'' but that doesn't mean it's any good, it still remains centralized junk supported by ftx scammer.
For me only good reason why someone would use shitcoins is because of privacy, or because they support stablecoins for temporary trading.
And that is the reason why someone may need to use multi-currency wallets.

Now back on Unstoppable wallet topic please.

Quote from: Charles-Tim on December 29, 2023, 05:38:23 AM

I will not recommend it for coins like bitcoin, litecoin, dash and other coins that have synchronizing issue. It is only good for those like BSC, Solana and others with their tokens.

I can somehow agree with this.
I tested how Unstoppable works with stable coin USDT on tron network, and it's not good.
Most of the times it won't sync even if you leave it open for longer periods of time, so it's unusable in real life situation.
They often release updates so maybe some of the stuff is fixed, but I can't confirm that.

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