Topic: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero scam - page 10. (Read 69408 times)

This is the first I am hearing of this. I was going to get into monero before but not now as reading this. 

well said.

Like Tesla, Kafka, Van Gogh, and Jim Croce - the adoration, recognition, and honor that Anonymint's Testicle War deserves will come too late, if ever.

His prediction that XMR, will, in his words, "... never be a ten ...", is poignant.  You can hear the sadness in his voice (or in his keyboard).

On the other hand, if XMR goes forward into crypto history as "a solid nine", that would be okay.

Nobody has ever seen a ten.  Lots of eights, a few nines, but never a ten. 

any truth to this?


Critically important discovery regarding anonymity for crypto-currency, which renders my Zero Knowledge Transactions white paper (and as well Shen-Noether's both) worthless:

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on November 21, 2015, 08:58:24 AM
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Thus this requirement for anti-DDoS would introduce a form of simultaneity requirement on CN one-time rings that could be jammed (spammed) as is the case for CoinJoin (and even the CoinShuffle improvement). As I had argued to gmaxwell in his CoinJoin thread in 2013, that blacklisting offenders is unworkable if there is no reference point, because precisely the point of adding anonymity is to destroy any reference point (other than an orthogonal one such as IP addresses, which as I have explained in this thread is also untenable at scale).

Thus I worried that anonymity might be untenable.

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The only solution I have been able to conjure is to use CoinShuffle to produce a group of hashes where every public key participating corresponds to some UTXO that can be confiscated.

So while I believe I have refuted my worry that anonymity is entirely untenable, I now believe that purely on chain anonymity is untenable. Which I think was also obvious from that fact that CN one-time rings can be unmasked if an adversary can correlate IP addresses to persistent identities. So if we have to do the CoinShuffle any way (which also mixes the spenders' IP addresses so we don't have to rely on the unreliable anonymity offered by Tor of I2P), then there is no reason to do the CN one-time ring signtures. Just use CoinShuffle with either CT or CCT.

Thus note that Zerocash will always be (and Monero is until they replace CN with CoinShuffle) untenable.

Actually no. It took me less than 5 minutes to find that quote.

Not exactly "LOTZ OV TAIEM"

You are a typical hypocrite, claim another coin's instamine over 7 days is unacceptable yet...Dash's instamine is acceptable.

That's like saying that  "its okay that Dash supporters can lie and spin things but if another coin's supporters like Cloak spins things or lies that is WRONG/UNACCEPTABLE."

Then at the same time trying to deflect while you point your finger at Monero and claiming it had an unfair distribution.

Here is another one of your quotes that shows you can't call it as it actually is instead of putting a spin on things:



LOL that took me ~2 minutes to find that quote ^

Yeah suuuure. Dash/DRK is now "AS EVENLY DISTRIBUTED" as BTC and LTC etc....

 

I love the way you Dance, Boy.

No it's called despo, as in desperate.

I was one of the first miners along with tacotime et al. We were following the BitMonero threads for a long time before it's release. It was fascinating to me how some coders like Noodle and Wolf are able to optimize miners with their profound knowledge in that particular domain. I think the term "crippled" may have come from them being able to see how bad it was to begin with because someone from camp CN thought obfuscation = difficulty. It has nothing to do with how unfair ICOs and badly mined coins have been branded instamined etc.

Even today XMR is priced just twice the initial OTC prices upon launch which was more than 18 months ago. There is hardly anything unfair going on now and it was never in the beginning either. At that time I thought dga's posts were hilarious but I wish he didn't post sarcastic posts which could be twisted by trolls. Anyways XMR's success will happen from needs and necessities. It is good that it is not an instrument for PnD like every single coin out there.

I wish and sometimes hope that those who troll Monero are not too seriously getting taking over by their own jest. I do laugh with this thread and other attempts at that from time to time.

agreed NXT and XMR have nothing in common, that was absurd. maybe a typo?

Perfect is even an understatement. It was damn near clockwork. The first 5 blocks were instamined at low difficulty but the 6th block had difficulty that overshot high a bit and perhaps some bad luck causing a 5 minute delay. After about 5 minutes there were 6 blocks mined.

The comparison to Nxt is absurd anyway, that was 100% ICO.

That is a plain misinformation, it was never "instamined", the emission curve worked out pretty perfect, due to difficulty adjustments after every block.

in a nutshell it's because there were some instaminers at early stage akin to nxt, but with a less worse impact than nxt
it was not launched so transparently, let's say this

as long as you keep bumping this thread i'm happy.

some of my main concerns can be found on page 27...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755840.520

I can only assume that is othe using the word scam to fill in the lack of intelligence between his ears......

Thank God I have an ignore button

Date Registered:    September 18, 2015, 06:19:44


Hello Vanillacoin scammer,
it has been proofen multiple times that johnconner is a scammer, even gmaxwell called him out.

Here he lied again:


Don´t worry we will call you scammers out as often as it´s needed :-)

as I said before I dont think XMR is a scam.....

 maybe a little fishy in its original distribution, but Ill throw Dash and hell almost all other altcoins into that same boat....

cryptonote tech is a very useful anon tech, and monero seems to be one of the best decentralized versions of it.  
the only reason I pulled out of XMR was because I have been on the other side of their constant badgering, (and not only in VNL, I was a supporter of XMR in its early days, and had dreams of becoming an XMR whale once apon a time), but now am tired of how as a community they have become destructive to bitcointalk and altcoins in general.

if you want to get a better read on this topic remove all the usual sockpuppet flamers ie. ignore icebreaker othe, smoothie, vanderi etc the guys who yell scam at anything not ProXMR.
there are some good replys from smooth and other XMR supporters though.

as per usual though at least half of the stuff in here is nonsense and rhetoric.

have fun.

side note:  I bet I am not the only one who has decided to stay away from XMR because of this, there constant flaming has done the project way more damage than good, and the market agrees with me.

non responsive, like i said there are no articulable accusations.

you never did smoke that joint we talked about did you? i'm tell you bro, you're gonna stroke out if you don't take it down a notch.

its certainly an interesting thread to read ..
(as are the comments)

Why monero was a scam? Will read thread carefully later.

There was only one line crippled idiot; that was fixed fast.

The rest was archived using engineering, like AES hardware implementations, nothing todo with crippling. Every minersoft gets faster and faster, happened on BTC, LTC and DASH etc.
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/3cc45e9324a402aee91e2f46861b2ca393d711aa



The X11 PoW in DASH is still unoptimized but you guys don´t give a fuck about it. Maybe give Wolf0 a bounty and he helps you out.



Go on with your lies, dig DASHs scammerhole deeper and deeper ))




Totally ontopic because the DASH SCAMMERS spread lies here over and over :-)) Prolly teamed up with the Bytecoin scammers, scammers are often working together, who would be surprised.

because there are no articulable accusations. if so what are they?

remember, this is a monero scam thread not a dash thread. please try and stay on topic.