Topic: US Presidential Election 2020 - page 11. (Read 6237 times)

I heard that other candidates for VP are: - Keisha Lance Bottoms, mayor of Atlanta,
- Keisha Lance Bottoms, voting rights activist
- Susan Rice, Ambassador to the United Nations, and National Security Adviser etc.

Personally, it seems to me that Susan Rice is the most qualified candidate for the position of VP and I hope that Biden will choose her.
When the whole world is in confusion and chaos due to the corona crisis, America-China relations and many other reasons, Biden needs someone experienced in foreign policy.

 

It actually a vice-versa kind of situation cause the mindset could reinforce Trump reelection and may not only if Biden make the choice by picking a non white woman (Black) as VP due to the racism protest and support around the world. However, Trumps have also done alot of mistakes which may not reinforce his reelection.
It will be better if Biden stick his vow.

This kind of mindset from democrats just reinforces Trump's reelection: instead of focusing in a platform that prioritizes jobs, democrats are too busy choosing their candidates based on their races. Come on... Really that they still didn't realize why they keep losing and can't get real people's support?
So many protests against racism and they are the ones who choose candidates according to the skin color.

Not just the race, but also it's about the age. Biden is a few weeks away from 78. Bernie is almost 79. Do you really want a 78-year old presidential candidate, with a 79-year old VP pick? IMO, race is secondary concern. And age is one of the advantages Kamala Harris is having, as she's just 55 years old. But from what I have heard, some of the top Biden allies and donors are not happy with her, and want to prevent her being named as the VP candidate at any cost. It looks to me that Biden can't ignore their stand. In the end, he may come up with another compromise candidate. May be African American and female, but not Kamala Harris.

However, Biden might not have an alternative on choosing Susan Rice. His administration will need and use her to protect Biden from the Russiagate scandal hehehe.

two old white guys, that's why. it has nothing to do with policies or platforms. if you haven't noticed, identity politics are front and center in this election.

biden has already vowed to pick a woman VP, so technically that's why it's impossible. in terms of odds, it's pretty clear by now that it will be a non-white woman. i'll be very surprised if it's anyone besides kamala harris or susan rice.

 Why is it so impossible that Bernie can't be VP? I mean I get that Biden and Bernie do not look to USA eye to eye and one of them has the biggest billionaire contribution in the race when he won and the other one never got a single dollar from billionaires, but isn't that the purpose of the VP? To get votes from places you normally can't? I mean if Biden picked Bernie as VP, I can guarantee you Biden will get votes from centrists all over the USA while Bernie will be getting votes from progressives and combine them two we are talking about a huuuuge chance to actually make it possible for a 70+ million voting for the first time ever.

 Obviously political networking reasons that will not happen, people who dislike each other and have so much differences do not really work well together, you want a VP who will work with you and not work against you, thats why Kamala is a smart choice, Warren is even a smarter choice, but Bernie is not, he could bring in a lot of votes but he could scare of some people and in the end even if he helps you win, he will not be helping you rule.

i've been saying it for several weeks now, ever since the BLM protests took off. susan rice is a distant second, but kamala is the obvious choice. VP selection is all about getting out the vote in your own party. nobody else is gonna fire up black and progressive voters like her.


i liked her at 2.7 but it's still good odds IMO.

trump's odds improving, now at 2.76. i have a feeling we already saw the best odds we'll get on him. he needed a stock market rally, and he got one.

There was a pic taken from Bidens notes for his latest press conference and it had notes about Kamala Harris:


Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-on-joe-bidens-handwritten-notes-amid-vp-rumors-2020-7?r=DE&IR=T

Harris has been my favourite all the time and I wanted to place a bet on here in the upcoming days - she was around 2.70 before this pic was taken. Now the odds have dropped already, which is super annoying^^:


Source: https://orbitexch.com/customer/sport/market/1.168954647

I somehow think this 1.7x is still good, but not too much into this topic and the other candidates to be brave enough to place a bet. Can anyone convince me to do it ?

Biden has nice handwriting for a person of his age, if it was him writing those notes actually, chapeau.

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I think I will have to lock this topic soon. A lot of the posts rather belong in off-topic discussion about the US Election (I am sure there is some thread), because this thread is about betting on it and finding good value odds. Sure there must be some arguments back and forth, impact of Corona, economical crisis, riots etc., but I miss some more betting related things. For the time being I will be more strict with deleting posts and see if it gets better that way

I have a feeling that if the pandemic situation is not going to improve, then it is going to be advantageous to Trump. Because his supporters have mostly ignored the warnings, refused to wear masks and to adhere to social distancing. These people are sure to go out and vote. But the same can't be said about the Democrat supporters, and at least some of them are likely to stay at home.

If the "illegal invasion" started in 70's you do realize that they have been in USA for 50 years right? It is 2020 right now, so 2020 minus 1970 equals 50 years. If you do not think that in 50 years someone becomes American, that means you are not very welcoming person to other people and definitely should not be responsible for any type of immigration related stuff.

Sure there shouldn't be people who have been in USA for just 2 years and vote, but when they are there for 50 years (or basically born there by what you say about the "anchor baby" when you are talking about a HUMAN LIFE) they do earn that right to vote, serving and paying taxes for 50 years or being born in USA and staying there for 18 years of your life should give you that right.

At what point would you draw the line, anyone whose family wasn't in USA before 1950's should not vote? In order to vote you have to have a family that has been in USA for min 100 years? Where do you draw the line? Believe me, 50 years is a LOOOONG time, that is enough to be able to vote.

He will win and I have no doubt about it, the people who hates him are the people who doesn't have care to trump even though he is still not the president of the U. S. He is a good leader and it is the reason why he became a billionaire. His speech in the public is not scripted like the other president. The Trump administration made a lot of good things in the U. S and it will only became waste if he will not be re elected.

But I do not believe that Trump is the underdog here. His popularity may decline but thr supporters he has now could still suffice to support him. This election is not an easy win for both parties. So now it really depend on their platform how thet can solve problems especially with pandemic. In Trump's case since he handled it already then it may be advantage on his part knowing things that might be or not effective to fight the covid where trump has the advantage while Biden still consider as starter. But, if Biden could convince his way of battling the virus then pretty sure it will be a way for Biden to win the election.

Even befor this incidents Trump's popularity has declined a lot. As a businessman he takes each and everything as a business, and the same isn't good for a president. Same as the native citizens USA has got large number of migrant who have got citizenship. The action taken against Visa for those people will also make a difference in the Presidential Election 2020.

That is really a disadvantage on part to trump but this debate could lead also his way to winning depending on how he will going to answer questions especially with the current events. There are many things that could be ask on him because he has already had the position and easier to be scrutinized. So it is up to trump if he can make people believe that he is doing right to the majority. I do believe also trump has the advantage because he is tge current or incumbent official to which he could ask the support of other groups for his gain and to them. This js how politics works. Support a candidate and your group will be bless if he will going to take the position.

The first debate for the 2020 US presidency. It will take place in Cleveland, Ohio on September 29.
Trump and Biden will have 3 debates before the vote on November 3.

2) Miami on October 15.
3) Nashville on October 22.

Remember that Biden has a national advantage of 15 percentage points.

Trump has lost his popularity due to the way he has handled the fight against Covid19 in the US and to the case of the brutal murder of George Floyd and the USA community said that stopping racism "Black lives matter."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53562432

You practically qualify as combative just by admitting you vote Trump or even worse putting up a sign, somehow thats become the reality yet its 50% of the vote in there so somebody must be putting those votes in.   Obviously there is a vocal amount who enjoy the argument but most people are busy just doing life paying the bills and just so happen to support this candidate or at least that party.    This factor alone that we know for sure is there, makes these polls at least 10% more inaccurate then normal I think.   Maybe if the polls are taken in secret not in the street or at the door, that stands a better chance of reflecting the later private votes.
   I think alot of people will just vote whatever benefits their industry, the job they work in.

https://t.co/TR4y6qNrzs?amp=1

Unfortunately, this is not only the case in the USA, but is also increasing in Europe. Very sad. The whole discussion is now only moving within a narrow corridor of opinion. If you are outside of this corridor, you quickly feel the consequences.
The bad thing is that those who say yes to this are those who want to contain the political spectrum left and right, but do not realise that such narratives strengthen these spectrum even further. Freedom of speech without any consequences is the only way to preserve freedom.

 What really matters in this election cycle is the fact that there has been a ton of stuff that made people take to streets and the response to that was basically trying to silence the people who are rioting right now instead of trying to make a clear contact with them. In a proper nation when people go out to protest a good president would try to understand whats wrong and try to create a sort of communication channel where there could be a middle ground found, yet Trump didn't do that, not only he tried to give cops a lot more power, he also allowed them to go out there without a badge number and an unmarked vehicle to arrest anyone they know to be taken at a place unknown as well, thats some China/Nazi germany type of stuff we are talking about.

 Normally why do democrats lose most commonly in the past 20 or so years since Bill Clinton left office? Most of the time it was due to democrats voting a lot less, we are talking about 50 thousand people voting Bernie last election just to piss off DNC, we are talking about people not waiting in lines. And believe me, this year that won't happen. Trump did so many bad things that, all the people who hate trump will be waiting in lines for 24 hours if they have to, doesn't matter what the maximum amount is, they will wait that amount, they will make a line at the voting booth, we are talking about a national crisis level president here, if they have 2 IQ to rub against each other everyone will go out to vote.

 Thats the reason why Biden is ahead, people hate Trump so much that they will do whatever it takes. People didn't hate Trump as much when he wasn't president and Hillary was the candidate, dude was unknown and just an idiot, now everybody knows him, everybody thinks he is the worst president ever and they will outvote him a lot. I can sense about a 5-7 million difference in votes this time, and probably 300+ Electoral votes for Biden to reeaally sink that in to Trump and not even make it close. If Trump loses Texas (which is very very difficult I know) that would be nail in the dagger, I feel like it will be time for Republicans to become more centrists when Democrats become more progessive (instead of what it is now, Republicans being far right whereas democrats going Centrist).

Biden is right about facebook and there should be something done about them but doing that before an election is quite risky. Normally if I were him I would just say that he likes Mark Zuckerberg and there is a problem that they need to fix but they are working on that and I would say if I become a president I would sit down with Mark and will help him overcome this issue and government could lend help with anything they need to fix this problem and so forth.

That way you are both saying it is not Mark's fault even though it is, and you are also saying that you see the problem and you will fix the problem, you are not ignoring it, while also not making facebook and mark a monster. Now that he said these things which are all true, mark will be on full force attack, try to ban or diminish all anti-trump and pro-biden things and will try to publish all anti-biden and pro-trump things.