Biden is just a figure head, its not his job to do everything himself so I dont judge the candidate on themselves exclusively its more about how many people can they shake hands with (or not currently) and do business, its the entire network and as a former vice president its very obvious why he is there. He has experience if nothing else you could say, maybe that just means shutting up and not saying stupid things which possibly could be a struggle but its not going to be any worse then current situation surely.
In short I believe politics and democracy is quite ironic, the main element of importance is not too much reliance on one person or section of government because you can bet mistakes will be made and its more important how easily can they be corrected and adjusted back to correct course.
In recession anything is going to be possible this year so its a big change possibly, might for the best because I read of some proposed crypto legisliation and the less the better.
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The polical system of the United States is a damn joke. After almost four years of Donald Trump, saying and doing whatever the f*** comes to his mind, snubing with most of their allies and partners and leaving the country with the biggest recession since the great depression, all the Democrats have to offer is John Biden as their candidate?! Seriously?! Biden, who is so sick he maybe can't even remember his own name in four years should lead the United States in such though times?! The Democrats had 4 years to build up a stong, charismatic candidate but they failed!
it's obvious the democrats are a broken party with a fractured identity. there is an increasing push towards the left within the party (the progressive wing) and this has been exemplified by the moderate success but ultimate defeat of the bernie sanders campaign.
the centrists and center-leftists are cannibalizing the party. on top of that, the push towards the left may make moderate democrat voters (who normally back fiscal conservatives like "the blue dogs") swing republican.
biden was their best attempt at a purely centrist candidate capable of retaining the moderates. IMO they were hoping to stimulate nostalgia for the obama years and also may have underestimated his cognitive dysfunction.
unlike many in this thread, i don't think trump is a shoo-in. if the economic recovery does not pan out as promised over the next few months, he may be facing a big reversal in opinion. i roughly agree with the odds bookies are giving. if it's either biden or trump, i would expect trump to win 11 or 12 times out of 20.
The polical system of the United States is a damn joke. After almost four years of Donald Trump, saying and doing whatever the f*** comes to his mind, snubing with most of their allies and partners and leaving the country with the biggest recession since the great depression, all the Democrats have to offer is Joe Biden as their candidate?! Seriously?! Biden, who is so sick he maybe can't even remember his own name in four years should lead the United States in such though times?! The Democrats had 4 years to build up a stong, charismatic candidate but they failed! They are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem!
The Americans should really start waking up. It seems like in the minds of a lot of them they see themself as the best nation on earth but in reality they have the healtcare system of a third world country, their political (and military) interventions around the globe cause a lot of suffering, racism is a huge problem, especially when you pair it with the their gun fanatismn.
The Americans should really start waking up. It seems like in the minds of a lot of them they see themself as the best nation on earth but in reality they have the healtcare system of a third world country, their political (and military) interventions around the globe cause a lot of suffering, racism is a huge problem, especially when you pair it with the their gun fanatismn.
In what world is Biden a good candidate? The polls show Biden leading because media coverage is dominated by coronavirus and Biden is pretty much immune from media scrutiny. His cognitive decline and allegations of sexual assault by Tara Reade pretty much flew right under the radar but Trump isn't going to let that go, nor are his Super PACS. I wouldn't be surprised if some pro-Trump commercials show Biden grabbing women and making them uncomfortable on camera.
Biden is an awful candidate.
Biden is an awful candidate.
If Biden was "immune" from media scrutiny, then this scandal would have never surfaced. On the other hand, it is being covered by all the major media outlets. And let's not forget the numerous scandals against Donald Trump. There is no doubt that the American media is politically motivated. CNN/MSNBC and similar channels favor the Democrats, while outlets such as the Fox News support the Republicans. Now let's not assume that Biden enjoys media support across the spectrum.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming 
I am not so sure that Trump will win. Without the corona crisis, I would say that it was an easy win for Trump, but right now? But it is too bad that Biden is not a super candidate for the Democrats, if they would have someone such as Obama...
As many said before me, Trump got lucky with this coronavirus case. Rating of most presidents and politics (in Ukraine too, lol) is rising due to all this situation. And in autumn, average american will remember Trump as a president which lead country across coronavirus pandemia.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
I am not so sure that Trump will win. Without the corona crisis, I would say that it was an easy win for Trump, but right now? But it is too bad that Biden is not a super candidate for the Democrats, if they would have someone such as Obama...
I think that is very difficult to predict Presidential election this year.
Who know what can happen until November?
If many people dies from corona virus than I'm sure Trump will loose elections.
But, right now Trump is all the time on TV news and in newspapers and if he solve corona crisis I think that Biden have no chance against him in November.
People like winers 😁
Agreed!
Last time also he was always on the TV for something or the other. A lot of negative publicity helped him in winning the elections. I believe that the same is happening again and if he is able to solve this crisis then he might win once again.
Any publicity is good publicity 😀
Ask Biden, he can't go around now and give public spechees and can use only social media.
Trump know it very well and using media events very well, promoting his ideas.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
I am not so sure that Trump will win. Without the corona crisis, I would say that it was an easy win for Trump, but right now? But it is too bad that Biden is not a super candidate for the Democrats, if they would have someone such as Obama...
I think that is very difficult to predict Presidential election this year.
Who know what can happen until November?
If many people dies from corona virus than I'm sure Trump will loose elections.
But, right now Trump is all the time on TV news and in newspapers and if he solve corona crisis I think that Biden have no chance against him in November.
People like winers 😁
Agreed!
Last time also he was always on the TV for something or the other. A lot of negative publicity helped him in winning the elections. I believe that the same is happening again and if he is able to solve this crisis then he might win once again.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
I am not so sure that Trump will win. Without the corona crisis, I would say that it was an easy win for Trump, but right now? But it is too bad that Biden is not a super candidate for the Democrats, if they would have someone such as Obama...
At this point, Biden is the best candidate they have. He has a better chance of winning swing states such as Wisconsin and Arizona, when compared to any of the other potential candidates. You can't compare Biden with Obama. Both have different personalities and obviously Obama was extremely popular. But Obama is not going to be the candidate in 2020.
During the last 2-3 days, we had opinion polls from AZ and FL, two of the states which are crucial for Trump to have a realistic chance in 2020. Check the results yourself:
AZ: https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/7453540/Arizona%20Public%20Opinion%20Pulse%20-%20Presidential.pdf
FL: https://business.fau.edu/departments/economics/business-economics-polling/bepi-polls/bepi-polls-2020/biden-leads-trump-in-florida.php
In what world is Biden a good candidate? The polls show Biden leading because media coverage is dominated by coronavirus and Biden is pretty much immune from media scrutiny. His cognitive decline and allegations of sexual assault by Tara Reade pretty much flew right under the radar but Trump isn't going to let that go, nor are his Super PACS. I wouldn't be surprised if some pro-Trump commercials show Biden grabbing women and making them uncomfortable on camera.
Biden is an awful candidate.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
I am not so sure that Trump will win. Without the corona crisis, I would say that it was an easy win for Trump, but right now? But it is too bad that Biden is not a super candidate for the Democrats, if they would have someone such as Obama...
At this point, Biden is the best candidate they have. He has a better chance of winning swing states such as Wisconsin and Arizona, when compared to any of the other potential candidates. You can't compare Biden with Obama. Both have different personalities and obviously Obama was extremely popular. But Obama is not going to be the candidate in 2020.
During the last 2-3 days, we had opinion polls from AZ and FL, two of the states which are crucial for Trump to have a realistic chance in 2020. Check the results yourself:
AZ: https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/7453540/Arizona%20Public%20Opinion%20Pulse%20-%20Presidential.pdf
FL: https://business.fau.edu/departments/economics/business-economics-polling/bepi-polls/bepi-polls-2020/biden-leads-trump-in-florida.php
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
I am not so sure that Trump will win. Without the corona crisis, I would say that it was an easy win for Trump, but right now? But it is too bad that Biden is not a super candidate for the Democrats, if they would have someone such as Obama...
I think that is very difficult to predict Presidential election this year.
Who know what can happen until November?
If many people dies from corona virus than I'm sure Trump will loose elections.
But, right now Trump is all the time on TV news and in newspapers and if he solve corona crisis I think that Biden have no chance against him in November.
People like winers 😁
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
Do you think that Trump is still a popular leader in united states ? He has taken many decisions in his tenure which are not been popular amount the public.I don't think people will again vote him to be their president for another 5 years.
incumbent leaders typically get a big popularity boost during major crises. trump's approval rating is up 7-8% from the trough, despite his administration's utter failure vs the coronavirus pandemic. people also prefer a tough talking "wartime" type president like trump in times like these, rather than a weak pro-establishment dud like joe biden.
between the coronavirus scare, the democrats fracturing between centrists and center-leftists, and the fact that he is the incumbent, trump has a strong chance of winning in november.
according to betfair's odds, the likelihood of a trump victory just went up 1% (to 49%) over the last day or two. biden is still at 42%. https://odds.watch/trump-2020
The corona deal makes a democrat victory twice as likely as it might have been. Bernie is populism and Biden is about the collective parts of those who oppose Trump, of the two disregarding policy Biden is more likely to win for covering the more diverse range of actual voters. I love the Bernie memes just like I wanted Ron Paul to go somewhere but theres not the grip to move large parts of the voting population and make a viable run. My bet would be for democrat win so long as the odds are worth going that way. Nothing is going to come close to a risk:reward pay off that Trump had; he was the dark horse because he'd constantly appear to snuff out his own chances yet here we are.
Also the filter the media give all news has to be removed to consider odds properly, makes it far harder to judge when they not able to be impartial.
The old Clinton usurper whiteboard meta, still stands that upset voters can change party far more. [The economy, stupid. Dont forget heathcare]
That'd help Trump as it places him with the people, presuming he survives.
Also the filter the media give all news has to be removed to consider odds properly, makes it far harder to judge when they not able to be impartial.
The old Clinton usurper whiteboard meta, still stands that upset voters can change party far more. [The economy, stupid. Dont forget heathcare]
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where do you see the odds going if trump tests positive for the the coronavirus?
That'd help Trump as it places him with the people, presuming he survives.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
I am not so sure that Trump will win. Without the corona crisis, I would say that it was an easy win for Trump, but right now? But it is too bad that Biden is not a super candidate for the Democrats, if they would have someone such as Obama...
Agreed. The Democrats would have a better chance to win the independent votes with Bernie Sanders running for them. However, everyone is fearful of him because he is similar to Trump. He has his own mind.
Yes, i thought about Bernie too. I don't think he would win, but at least all this would be not so obvious. Problem of Bernie was that his electorate consisted mostly from lazy zoomers, which ignored elections. I think something the same would happen on president election. Means that Trump would win anyway.
That is what the mainstream media has labeled him, similar to how CNN, CBS, NBC and ABC have labeled Trump as a personification of Hitler. However, Bernie has shown to be more reasonable than Hillary and Biden.
Also, Bernie is 78, Biden is 77. On relative age, they are similar.
Also, Bernie is 78, Biden is 77. On relative age, they are similar.
As I stated earlier, Sanders was a much better candidate when compared to Hillary Clinton back in 2016. For that matter, anyone other than Hillary would have beaten Trump in a comprehensive manner. The Democrat established rigged the primaries in favor of Hillary, and the Sanders supporters retaliated by not voting for anyone. But this time that is not the case. Sanders has endorsed Biden. And from what I can see, Biden has been more successful in uniting the various voting blocks of Democrats (such as Afro-Americans, Hispanics, feminists, youth.etc).
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
Agreed. The Democrats would have a better chance to win the independent votes with Bernie Sanders running for them. However, everyone is fearful of him because he is similar to Trump. He has his own mind.
Not very practical. Bernie Sanders is extreme-left and he may cost a lot of centrist votes. He may bring in Hispanic and youth votes, especially in the swing states, but overall I am not very excited about a 79-year old presidential candidate with poor reputation among the African Americans. I would say that for now, Biden seems to be the best candidate for Democrats. Sanders would have been a very good candidate against Trump in 2016. But I don't have the same opinion now.
That is what the mainstream media has labeled him, similar to how CNN, CBS, NBC and ABC have labeled Trump as a personification of Hitler. However, Bernie has shown to be more reasonable than Hillary and Biden.
Also, Bernie is 78, Biden is 77. On relative age, they are similar.
Do you think that Trump is still a popular leader in united states ? He has taken many decisions in his tenure which are not been popular amount the public.
I don't think people will again vote him to be their president for another 5 years.
I don't think people will again vote him to be their president for another 5 years.
I would argue with that. He has made many decisions that have not been popular with the media, but that doesn't reflect the the view of the public. It's become far too obvious that the media has been against him from the very beginning, and the American people see through the deception. Rich media moguls don't care what's best for the American people, they care what's best for their pocketbook, and their powerful allies in Washington.
Since most of the American media streams are relatively liberal, and therefore against Trump, much of what gets broadcast overseas is tainted with a liberal bias. It's unfortunate, but I've seen it first hand when vising the Middle East. I hate to say it, but American media is not to be trusted.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
Agreed. The Democrats would have a better chance to win the independent votes with Bernie Sanders running for them. However, everyone is fearful of him because he is similar to Trump. He has his own mind.
Not very practical. Bernie Sanders is extreme-left and he may cost a lot of centrist votes. He may bring in Hispanic and youth votes, especially in the swing states, but overall I am not very excited about a 79-year old presidential candidate with poor reputation among the African Americans. I would say that for now, Biden seems to be the best candidate for Democrats. Sanders would have been a very good candidate against Trump in 2016. But I don't have the same opinion now.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
Do you think that Trump is still a popular leader in united states ? He has taken many decisions in his tenure which are not been popular amount the public.
I don't think people will again vote him to be their president for another 5 years.
Since democrats elected Biden there already no any another result than Trump victory. I will bet a little, but it's not interesting anyway. Another 4 years with Trump is coming
Agreed. The Democrats would have a better chance to win the independent votes with Bernie Sanders running for them. However, everyone is fearful of him because he is similar to Trump. He has his own mind.
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