Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 39. (Read 45532 times)

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All you need to do is look at my posts in this thread for links to various stories, and then follow up on their bibliographical references. And that is in addition to doing searches on Google and in Natural News.

That is simply not true.  Vaccines do not have to undergo the kinds of safety testing as do other types of medications.

On top of that, the CDC who have a healthy revolving door with the giant pharma companies are know through whistleblowers to literally throw negative results into the trashcan and destroy all the records (except those stored in a office safe in the one guy on the team who had a conscience.)  Watch the movie 'Vaxxed' for a good expose on just one such incident.

If you watch the movie, pay attention what happens to real doctors when they actually read the studies of vaccine safety which are even allowed to be published.

Yes I do.  Among them, the presentations of hundreds of doctors, scientists, etc.

Only in rare occasions can a doctor or scientist maintain their career if they question the 'official' stance on vaccination as dictated by corp/gov.  Academia is highly reliant on support from governments, corporations, and so-called 'non-profit' entities (which are places where the wealthy can spend their money on their pet projects without paying taxes.)  Thus, it is inevitably a terminal career move to study the 'science' unless one is prepared to come up with the 'right answer' by any means necessary.

Even so, the damage is so threatening and the ethical considerations so awful to a minority of people that some small fraction will speak out.  Even this small fraction makes a huge number of people.

The scary thing about all this is that a few people read an article or two and then they decide that they won't give their children vaccines at all. There have been ineffective vaccines. There have been bad vaccines. There are some possible side-effects from vaccines, but the overall positive effect of vaccines far outweighs any negative things that could happen. All vaccines that are administered to the public go through extensive testing. But not getting vaccines, you can put not only yourself at risk, but also other people. If you don't vaccinate your daughter against rubella, for example, then she later get pregnant and gets rubella, she will have a much higher risk of miscarriage.

Do you have any shred of evidence that vaccines are harmful or do you just like to use fancy words and talk out of your ass?

Good points, and I agree with most of them to some extend after the research I've done into the topic.

I don't think that vaccines and the technology is inherently bad, but I think that when corp/gov wants to save money on a cost-per-goyim basis they definitely cut corners (to give them the benefit of the doubt vis-a-vis more nefarious purposes.)  They also weasel out of responsibility for any harm they cause and shove to costs onto the victim's family.

Looks to me as though 'adjuvated' technology is where  a lot of the auto-immunity problems and general individual immune system dysfunction comes from.  'Modified Live' and 'recombinate' technologies seem more promising to me with the hope of getting rid of some of the problems associated with adjuvated vaccines.  Again though, sick and weak people are not really 'problem' for the pharmaceutical companies.  They are in fact a cash-cow.

Like you say, rabies is a no-brainer.  Used as needed.  Seems to me that vaccines could be used sparingly and in a targetted manner to deal with risks as needed ecologically.  It's as plain as the nose on one's face that the understanding of 'herd immunity' on the part of the (pseudo?-)scientific community is very poor as evidenced by the changes in vaccination rates that are supposed to achieve it.

Я пpoтив вaкцинaции. Moй peбeнoк нe пpивит. Baкцинa нe зaщищaeт oт бoлeзни нa 100%. Зaбoлeть мoжeт и пpивитый, вce зaвиcит oт иммyннoгo cтaтyca. Baкцинaция пoдpывaeт иммyнитeт. Baкцинa мoжeт вызвaть тяжeлыe ocлoжнeния, нapyшить paбoтy мoзгa, вплoть дo лeтaльнoгo иcxoдa. Cчитaю, чтo дeтcкaя oнкoлoгия тoжe пpичинa вaкцинaции, тaк кaк чyжepoдныe бeлки и кaнцepoгeнныe вeщecтвa, вxoдящиe в cocтaв вaкцины, пpoникaя нaпpямyю в кpoвь, мoгyт вызвaть нapyшeния иммyнитeтa, и cooтвeтcтвeннo pocт paкoвыx клeтoк. Чтoбы быть здopoвым, нyжнo пoвышaть иммyнитeт, питaтьcя пищeй, бoгaтoй витaминaми. Heпpивитыe дeти peдкo бoлeют, пoтoмy чтo иx иммyнитeт paбoтaeт пpaвильнo. Eдинcтвeннaя пpививкa, кoтopaя cпacaeт жизнь, и кoтopyю нyжнo дeлaть oбязaтeльнo, этo пpививкa пpoтив виpyca бeшeнcтвa. Ho oнa являeтcя нe пpoфилaктичecкoй, a лeчeбнoй, и дeлaeтcя пo фaктy yкyca бeшeнным живoтным.

I think this study is very welcomed. It is a good one. I prefer this kind of studies/research to the ones about trivial opinions or fashion. Vaccines play an important role in our society. For sure, we have saved many lives thanks to vaccines. Nevertheless, we should not take this for granted. We should not abuse. We always tend to abuse. The same thing happens with the use of antibiotics. When we use them to much, well they become useless. Vaccines have the same problems. We use them too much, they stop helping and become dangerous. I am advocating for a better use of vaccines and traditional medicine.

I have no problem with you choosing to get any vaccines you want.  If it works for you, what's the problem?  It's sad if you treat your kid like a wheel-of-fortune game just to be part of a big-brother loving crowd, but at the end of the day that's your choice and none of my business.

I've studied the science and I know all of the 500 million scare tactics are utter horse-shit propaganda, but I know that not everyone has the aptitude to do the same.  Even fewer will as vaccine 'uptake' rates continue to climb.

A slightly more tangible problem in my eyes is that as a taxpayer and someone who live in a society, it's going to be hugely problematic for me when half the kids are on meds and 1 out of three are non-functional.  I can mitigate the problem by getting the hell out of the U.S. before its engineered collapse though.

At the end of the day, from an 'illuminated' frame of reference, if the masses are stupified zombies I can take advantage of them just the same as the vaccine pushers like Bill Gates.  But I don't want to do this and hope that I never will.  I'd rather just have a good life and have everyone else exposed to the same opportunities I have had...even if they were not born into elite wealth.

Why the federal government broke vaccine law for 30 years







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choosing for a lesser evil, side effect of vaccination over having another epidemic case of smallpox which the total kill 500 million. we know is the better answer if the benefit gained more than the side effect then it is worth it.

BOOM

https://www.livescience.com/57488-vaccine-safety-numbers.html

https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/safety/index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaccines-are-they-safe-to-give-children-dangers-advice-facts-mmr-autism-donald-trump-anti-vaxxers-a7719491.html

Slate, Salon, Huffpost all child killers and liars about vaccines… massive, coordinated cover-up exposed







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I agree with you; you are your own idol by being so adamant about stuff you have no knowledge of.

As I have said before, the things of the Bible and the nation of Ancient Israel, as can be researched scientifically, show that these things of God are miraculous.

For example. If there were no printing press, there would still be thousands of hand-copied copies of the Bible. But there would be no Darwin writings. But if there were any Darwin writings, there might be one copy of each... the one that Darwin wrote.

In addition, while there are many copies of many books, there are so many copies of the Bible distributed worldwide, that it is mind-boggling. So, the Bible is miraculous, the power of God expressed by these things in ways that even you understand.

Happens frequently in the medical field when doctors know that a patient is going to die, and suddenly the patient recovers for no reason at all, and the doctors are astonished. Regarding what they know, a miracle.

As I have said before, Science doesn't have any more than guesswork regarding where the universe came from and how it came into being. They have observed all kinds of phenomenon that they don't know the whys and the wherefores of, and certainly can't duplicate. Science may suggest that such phenomenon is potentially based on some scientifically determinable knowledge, but they don't know this for a fact, or what that determinable knowledge might be. So, it is miraculous to them.

Miracles all over the place. If they weren't miracles, science would at least be able to understand, and be able to duplicate. Like, duplicate the whole universe in the lab. No can do. Not even a clue as to how to begin. The universe is one of the largest of miracles around.

And if you say that big bang is the answer, note that BB theory doesn't have any more than a shell of how things came into being. It doesn't describe the details of more than 99% of things that exist in enough detail to say that BB even has a hint as to how those things came into being within BB. And nobody really knows that the little that BB describes was really the way it happened.

The universe is a miracle. Another miraculous thing is the fact that you don't understand that the universe is a miracle. Miracles all over the place.

Or a blue eyed chipmunk with wings, you never know, LOL

In any case, no matter what kind of research is being conducted at the moment, the necessary technologies already exist. The only obstacle to their conduct is our reluctance to recognize the likelihood that vaccines are not just a "magic medicine" for the production of specific antibodies. These are complex biological agents, the effect of which on the human body is practically not investigated and needs urgent study.

The irony of saying science has proved something to be a miracle is amazing. So you admit we don't know how the universe was created, that includes god. And how did science prove that the bible is miraculous exactly, I want to know about it.