Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 42. (Read 45532 times)

This is fairly meaningless statement of nonsense.

More interestingly, there are some different common technologies.  Off the top of my head:

 1) busted up fragments with target surface protein structures.

 2) a weakened strain of the target organism

 3) a totally different organism genetically modified to contain target surface proteins.

This is critical because #1 doesn't work for shit without 'adjuvants'.  This is often aluminum, but other things have been used.  The purpose of an adjuvant is to irritate the immune system generally and try to get it to produce more antibodies than it would normally.  The trouble is that the immune system will be 'turbo-charged' against whatever it happens to be doing.  If it is in the process of cleaning up misbehaving aspects of one's own body (which is one of it's functions) then it can result in a long term autoimmunity problem.  At least that is my theory.

live-virus technologies basically create a fairly normal general infection of something fairly benign, but in the process of fighting it off the immune system develops antibodies against the target.  Or at least the surface proteins of the target.

When I got my cat vaccinated I specified 'non-adjuvated' vaccines.  These were more expensive and I choose a veterinarian specifically because she was the one in my area who carried them.  Interestingly, vets seem to be more out-in-front on vaccination issues than do human doctors, but even here it is rare to find a 'professional' who shows any real understanding of the science immunology and potential problems with vaccinating.

We have passive vaccination and active vaccination. Passive immunization comes as a result of the immune system developing antibodies during an infection and active vaccination is the use of weakened or live organism to stimute the body to produce antibodies against that particular organism or disease.

It looks to me as though what is going on is that we have certain plans and operations undertaken by a central planning group (often what I call 'corp/gov' in our time) and as a tool to limit dissent, opposition to their plan, or exposure of their operations is labeled 'conspiracy theory.'

Most normal people are wired in such a way that they are most comfortable following some specific entity.  Governments tend to put a lot of effort into trying to engineer themselves being that entity which is why it is common in political systems to outlaw some or all religions.

Normal people have a need to prove themselves reliable servants to their leader.  This is a self preservation mechanism and correlates with individual advancement.  For those who favor the central government as their leader, showing deference to officially proclaimed 'conspiracy theories' labels does this.

Religious people occasionally (but not 'usually') place their god at the top of pyramid.  The fear of the 'conspiracy theorist' label is thus diminished in their mind.  Often they replace it with the concept of 'heresy'...which is equally annoying to heathens like myself.

The whole 'flat earth' thing is a good example of a psychological operation described by Cass Sunstein who constructed a play-book for central authorities to deal with 'conspiracy theories', or ones which complicate government operations.  The strategies included fostering of cognitive dissonance among problematic groups.  Basically the idea is to make the 'alternative information' landscape so complex that most people will throw up their hands and just go with the so-called blue pill, and those who keep trying will have a much more difficult task.

For a person like me, the 'flat earth' psy-op is a godsend.  It immediately exposes someone who is either an inserted shill or a drooling idiot.  For the purposes of discriminating information sources it doesn't really matter which one he/she is, but it can be entertaining to try to identify.

Also, most operatives will start out by trying to embed in a (psychological) community.  In this phase they will produce good information which is not terribly damaging to their sponsors because it was already basically known.  Depending on how tightly coupled the shill is, new information will be tuned to serve the agenda of their sponsors.  It can be genuinely valuable to identify a shill and who they are working for, then in a postmortem phase re-evaluate their output over time.

Here's a pretty good presentation on 'conspiracy theories':  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MgwKTdOqPs

It's funny that people (badecker) who believe in 1 crazy shit (god) also usually believe in other crazy shit. Notbatman believes the earth is flat but that's not his only conspiracy theory, he also believes that giants lived here and other crazy shit.

The pharma cartel very often over-prices their drugs and vaccines, and as a result of this the governments in the third world nations are forced to purchase cheap quality drugs which are available at low prices. But even these low-quality medicines have saved the lives of millions of people.

What a ridiculous statement!  The immune system IS the 'defense mechanism' and one has it for life.

Ironically, and not surprisingly, abuse of the immune system by tweaking it with vaccines seems to screw it up for some people.  _Then_ one has 'no defense mechanism', or at least not a well working one.  As the studies show, heavily vaccinated people suffer from a variety of auto-immunity problems and other maladies at a far greater rate than vaccinated or modestly vaccinated people.

Vaccination is a way of building your immune system against any disease that the body may encounter in life later on. The unvaccinated has no defflence mechanism against anything and is easily attacked by diseases.

you know i've heard that all these vaccines are null shit. they were mady for recent death of us. think of owrs old old old old old ancetors. did you know that their period of time living and being healthier was much longer than today. they didnt use any vaccines but still they had beautiful orginzed defence against the deseases and i dont speak abouty their % usage of their brain, г probably heard that today people use 1-3 % of our brains. the geniuses use 3-5 %. some say less some say lit more, but everyone agree that we use a piece of nothing. so? ancetors weren't using it, why we should. you may say today we live in bad conditions, food is unhealthy, the water and the air are contaminated, thats we we should been vaccinated. then ask yourself do you believe that healthy evrironment is around you ? if yes? then why do you think vaccines are needed. if no, then ask yourself why the area i live in is so bad, is because of our government ? then if they ruin your life there, why they won't do it with vaccines. i would say many times i dont need a vaccine. if it is interesting for you, then search for needed information and you'll find the truth)))

I am positive about vaccination and I think this is the most correct decision to rid yourself of the risk of swelling. But in my country the government buys very poor quality vaccines and there are very many cases when a child enters the hospital at the risk of death. I made a vaccine for all my children, but I bought it for a very large amount of money and did not prick free vaccines with.

However, if the medical had spent even only 10% of the funds on Biophages that they do on medicine, this and many of the other problems would have been overcome long ago. In addition, people would be healed from many of the diseases that plague mankind.

More than likely, using biophages would help us find methods to live longer, way faster than any of the other anti-aging processes in the works right now,

Most of the vaccinations nowadays are not against terrible diseases, just ordinary ones. Of course, the vaccines against terrible diseases have a different risk/reward balance compared to those agains ordinary diseases.

'say' = 'parrot'.  See the 'are we brainwashed?' thread.

1/3 of American kids are on meds of some sort now.  And fully vaccinated are about 95% I believe.  Something weird is going on but somehow the CDC just cannot seem to figure it out.  Perhaps they are not trying real hard since they are looking forward to the revolving door right into the pharma industry when they get done with their 'public service.'

Thank God I was born in the late 60's when we had a few common sense vaccines and that was it.  Pretty healthy dose of mercury in my day, but we got like 7 total.  Not the 50+ that they shoot kids up with these days.  Back in my day it was a no-no for pregnant women to take so much as an aspirin.  Now they implore women to get as many flu shots as they can (which are one of the few which still contain a healthy dose of mercury.

Scarlett Fever is a bacteriaphage which attacks streptococci bacteria (strep throat.)  Unfortunately it produces a toxic byproduct which causes Scarlett fever.  So, bacteriaphage viruses are not necessarily the be-all end-all solution to all of our woes.  Ecology is marvelously complex and almost completely ignored by the medical and scientific community when it comes to understanding man's interaction with our environment.  Everything is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine all the time.  That's where the money is...and perhaps other useful opportunities for population management as well.

Scarlett fever is one of the many many ailments which disappeared on it's own in first-world countries with adequate sanitation and food.  For that reason it is pretty much memory-holed.  It's an embarrassment to the vaxer contingent and their brainless followers.

So-called 'anti-vaxers' have been screaming from the roof-tops about doing rigorous and open access 'total health outcome' studies between the vaxed and non-vaxed.  For some reason governments steadfastly refuse.  The less well funded studies undertaken by the (probably somewhat biased) skeptics of over-vaccination seem to indicate that the unvaccinated are far less affected by a whole range of 'modern' problems facing people today.  Problems which just happen to be highly lucrative for the medical and pharmaceutical industry.

This thread starts out by outlining one of these studies.

If a full actuarial was done I'll bet that the vaxers will owe the non-vaxers a ton of money for the harm and costs that over-vaccination have caused to society and for making insurance nearly affordable in the U.S..  At least responsible and well educated parents can keep their kids from suffering the health effects of over-vaccination by telling the medical system to shove it, but it takes a strong person to do this, and it's much more practical for the high income folks to do.

The poor and uneducated tend to be the ones who flock to the doctor's office to get their kids shot up with everything that Big Brother demands.  Anti-vaxers tend to be from the more affluent and well educated social classes.

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It seems to me that those who refuse vaccination should pay special insurance. If they get sick themselves or infect someone else. I don't understand why they should endanger the lives of me and my children?

I would add a few more to that list. Especially the following ones:

Anthrax
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Measles
Mumps

On top of these, vaccines against diseases such as Cholera, Typhoid Fever, Yellow Fever and Japanese Encephalitis are very important in regions where the risk from these diseases is high.

I think there are vaccines that are really needed. Vaccines are made to counter diseases and not to make it worst. I won't recommend avoiding vaccines just because you read an article that it can make someone sick. Always follow the doctors advise. We don't live in the stone age era anymore. Just be glad that they discovered vaccines to save millions of lives.

BTW, tere are vaccines that can prevent diseases. Please see below.
Polio.
Hepatitis B.
Pneumococcal Disease.
Diphtheria (the 'D' in DTaP vaccine)
Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b)
Tetanus (the 'T' in DTaP vaccine; also known as Lockjaw)
Pertussis (the 'P' in DTaP vaccine, also known as Whooping Cough)

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All Doctors Need to Support All Vaccines

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