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Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 45. (Read 45532 times)

legendary
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wonder how people survived without vaccines in the past?

To be fair in an analysis of this issue (and many like it) it is important to mull over this question.

The answer is that a lot of times they didn't.  They died of lots of things.  I suspect that increasing human populations and urbanization which came with agriculture and such were a boon for certain pathogens.  As a first-worlder, I can say that all the way up to my great-grandfather's time 'the weak ones died' to quote him (in what I'm sure was a thick Scandinavian accent although I never knew the man.)

One must understand the mindset of the modern Eugenisist.  They tend to be wealthy and well educated people who are very aware of history.  They will argue that the modern world needs a balancing force to offset the 'negative' effects of technology.  They will feel that in using their wealth and power to provide this offset is a good thing and will be aware of their peers work on 'diet, injection, and injunction...' and many works of such a nature.

The above said, many of the eugenicists are not above making a dime off of their 'good deeds', so one would not be surprised to see a good deal of coordination between the 'philanthropists' and the corporatists (when there is a difference at all) and to see their policies and operations mesh quite nicely and result in a lucrative end goal.  That is, more money and more power for themselves.

A very common mis-understanding of modern day eugenics is that it is geared toward making human kind 'better'.  To Joe Sixpack 'better' means stronger, smarter, etc.  This is not what it means to the average 2017 Eugenicist.  It probably means exactly the opposite.  Stronger and smarter people are a threat.  Stunted and stupid people are not.  I'm not surprised in the least that 'the autism epidemic' continues to grow and somehow the 'research community' cannot seem to figure it out...but they know for sure that it has nothing to do with vaccination.

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wonder how people survived without vaccines in the past?
legendary
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Truth of the matter is that without vaccines there would be a lot more death.

When you have something that's killing thousands and thousands of people and a cure pops up, it is a blessing. You have to put yourself in the shoes of living such epidemics in the 1920s.

Mortality for most of the 'epidemic' diseases was usually in the {small_int}/10,000 range.  These diseases declined to much less than that with understandings about nutrition and sanitation long before vaccine regimes came into the mix.

Just looking at a few charts makes it clear that allopathic vaccination medical science re-wrote history to take credit for a trend that they had little or nothing to do with.  Don't be a chump.

Now we have a situation where instead of 1/100,000 dying and 1/10,000 being permanently injured from a natural pathogen, we've got more than 1/100 being permanently maimed and wards of the state for life with some autistic spectrum dis-order, auto-immune disease, etc, etc.  Of course if it happens to an upper or middle-class family who have ethics, they expend their resources trying to care for injured family member before the state takes over.  In the process, of course, the banksters and medical/industrial complex doctors end up with whatever property the family had.

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Truth of the matter is that without vaccines there would be a lot more death.

When you have something that's killing thousands and thousands of people and a cure pops up, it is a blessing. You have to put yourself in the shoes of living such epidemics in the 1920s.
legendary
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One of these days I'll donate much more than a DVD's worth to these guys and/or other decent people doing decent work for all of our sake, but in the mean time someone has put this work on youtube somewhat covertly it seems:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34LaBsp2Fs

In fact, I'll go ahead and do it now.  Especially if they accept Bitcoin.

Edit:  Just bought a 10-pack to distribute around, especially to my goyim friends.  They probably don't make a ton on bulk orders so I'll contribute directly to other similar efforts.

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lately, in my country is already applying a policy about should it do the vaccination. Because this time, the world has a lot of various kinds of viruses that harm.
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many states that requires its residents to vaccinate. Because the vaccine has been proven to fight an outbreak of the disease.
legendary
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BOMBSHELL: United Nations admits latest outbreak of polio in Syria was caused by polio vaccines





In war-torn Syria, there’s little doubt that the conflict has taken a toll on health. Now, the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) reports that their attempt at using vaccines to “protect” children against polio has backfire — infecting more children with the devastating disease rather than saving them.

Vaccines make children sick, you don’t say?

As World Health Organization representative Elizabeth Hoff reports,  “As of 18 August 2017, 33 children under the age of five have been paralyzed. The detection of the circulating vaccine derived polio virus type 2 (cVDPV2) cases demonstrates that disease surveillance systems are functional in Syria. Our priority now is to achieve the highest possible polio immunization coverage to stop the circulation of virus.”


Read more at https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-30-bombshell-united-nations-admits-latest-outbreak-of-polio-in-syria-was-caused-by-polio-vaccines.html.


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the vaccine is a way to make our body strong to fight a disease or virus. I believe with the presence of vaccination.
legendary
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Well, a home school kid is going to be less sicker if they don't interact on a daily basis with other kids.

That is actually a good point and one which should be accounted for in a non-biased study designed to get non-biased results.

I can say from personal experience that there are 'homeschooled' children who are not at all isolated from other kids.  Also that they are as vaccinated as much as any kid, and even given special fluoride supplements in order to 'keep up' with their peers who live in urban areas where big-brother knows best what it takes to make a more 'sustainable' population.  Sad but true.

All of these factors need to be taken into account in order to perform useful studies.  These are some of the reasons why studies are not trivial and are expensive.  I don't really see any indication that any group actually wants totally unbiased total health outcome studies, and certainly the likes of the CDC don't.  If there is hidden (or deleted) data and methodology, you can be sure that a study is bogus.

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Well, a home school kid is going to be less sicker if they don't interact on a daily basis with other kids.
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Sometimes the vaccinated person is the one weaker rather than those who are not..because those who are not vaccinated have more confidence in their health condition for as long as they're eating right and healthy good food ever since and have regular exercise and living a healthy lifestyle, their immune system is much stronger than those who depend on medicine in order to have healthy body.
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Vaccinated or unvaccinated? We have to analyse the situation first. Vaccination is done to prevent a virus to spread in the body of a person. But some vaccine may trigger some virus to spread that may cause a serious disease that may lead to death of the person.
So who is sicker now?
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I will have to analyse this study. There are already too many voices pointing on the fact that something is completely wrong in the Western vaccination policies...
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Each organism is unique and it is impossible for all to apply the same method of treatment. For some, there may not be anything wrong with the vaccine, and others may have a negative reaction.
legendary
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This is just the laws of nature at work. Good has equal out bad. So you destroy one problem and create another. But then again who really wants Polio

It's easy to get rid of any disease. The medical did it with polio back in the 1950s and early 1960s. When we all thought that it was the Salk and Sabin vaccines that did it, what it really was, was something way more effective. The Salk and Sabin vaccines were almost entirely useless.

So, how did big medicine cure polio back then? They rewrote the diagnosis parameters in the medical books. Suddenly polio was almost gone. But we had a medically hushed up spinal meningitis plague.

More than likely there is a simple chlorine dioxide protocol that would take care of both, polio and spinal meningitis. But no money for the medical that way.

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This is just the laws of nature at work. Good has equal out bad. So you destroy one problem and create another. But then again who really wants Polio
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The problem are not the vaccines itself. The problems are the preservatives they use to make them more durable (and more cheap).
Everything is toxic, our food, our water and our vaccines, thank to people who wants to earn more money.
legendary
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The answer is chlorine dioxide. Chlorine dioxide is a weak bleach that is use around the world for water purification. Even Dupont makes and sells it. But it is easy to make.

When a person drinks water with a few drops of chlorine dioxide in it, the chlorine dioxide carries oxygen to places in the person's body where the blood normally doesn't take it. The oxygen kills off all kinds of bacteria and viruses that other medicine misses, including cancer. It has been proven to kill malaria in one day. And once it has done its job, chlorine dioxide converts into water and simple table salt in the body.

Malaria defeated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jY2yab0uLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwZN1cPfX8

The medial knows about this, and yet they refuse to use and administer chlorine dioxide. In fact, they are attempting to cover it up:
http://mmswiki.is/index.php/Red_Cross
http://mmswiki.is/index.php/Red_Cross_Malaria_Cover-up_-_Media_Coverage
http://mmswiki.is/index.php/Red_Cross_Video_Transcript

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I don't know about all vaccines, but we are seeing lesser cases of polio and diphtheria after a decade the vaccine program was forced.
In Africa, there are numerous cases where the the so called vaccinated drugs prove to be very dangerous for the kids they are given to them, many children have ended up dying because they were given the vaccines which sometimes we're contaminated and fatal for anyone who takes them.
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