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May 11, 2021, 04:17:57 AM
Every decision to play the slots is the responsibility of each person himself. Every time you play, at the same time you have to be ready to accept defeat or victory, there is nothing wrong with that. You just need to prepare well, whether you have a strategy to win or not.

The requirement for minimum age exists because so that people have some sense of maturity and understating about value of money and its consequences if they lose it all. So every one need to ensure that they only gamble what they have and how much they can lose if they end up losing it.  So onus lies on individuals in the end.
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May 11, 2021, 12:59:41 AM
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Yeah you're right. They promoting and to attract people they need to say all the good things of their business. Have you heard advertisement telling bad about their business? No. Advertisement is like applying for a job. You selling yourself, you tell everything good that makes you perfect fit for the role so you can get the position. That's the strategy and it for me it's not immoral. What ever the result of your gambling it's all your choice and decision nothing to do with the advertisement or people promote you.
That's what I am trying to say bro, no one is going to tell the truth if it doesn't benefit them the slightest and knows that telling it will be detrimental as to whether they are going to be attractive to clients or employers. I don't get how people aren't getting that this has been the thing in advertising ever since.
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May 11, 2021, 12:24:16 AM
This is just another form of promotion and as marketing strategy it has been already pointed out several time and some country/youtuber more impacted.
It's should be declared clearly that there is a "connection" or a "promo" between the two sides like any other advertisement on social network.

Most of users are very expert about casinos and are pretty aware about these fake wins/promo.
The real problem, could arise when promotion will involve a scam casino or any other shady gambling site.
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May 11, 2021, 12:18:14 AM
Every decision to play the slots is the responsibility of each person himself. Every time you play, at the same time you have to be ready to accept defeat or victory, there is nothing wrong with that. You just need to prepare well, whether you have a strategy to win or not.
Exactly, and if you don't know that advertising isn't an exaggerated or a scripted thing then you are probably a stupid person. I don't see how immoral it is to advertise with scripted events because that's the only way to make it attractive to potential clients, you won't go to a gambling site that advertises with people lossing in their platform no?
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May 10, 2021, 08:27:04 PM
Every decision to play the slots is the responsibility of each person himself. Every time you play, at the same time you have to be ready to accept defeat or victory, there is nothing wrong with that. You just need to prepare well, whether you have a strategy to win or not.
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May 10, 2021, 06:55:34 PM

Casino is a lucrative business and people just like money that could be earned instantly with just a click. Even without the streamer influencers casino will always attract players.  You can see the same names coming up over and over in "ALL BETS". But its all marketing still.

The one strategy that's very much disliked is the kid's logo or cute fluffy mascot which could attract kids to gambling.
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May 10, 2021, 06:45:22 PM
Not only critical thinking but also having that common sense you would need because there are things in life that we do encounter which are bit obvious.Even  without having sufficient experience or learning

but too wary on how things works or whats happening around you then most likely you would really be able to detect it out.Yeah, this can be considered to be a trick since this is a deceptive way of marketing

where those advertisers been using those sponsored money just to show off that they are really spending their own money from their pocket and making out huge bets as if theyre affected when they lost

but the truth is that they dont really just care at all and do only mind on the pay on where the company would be giving out later on.
Gambling attracts people who cannot keep their emotions in check, that is the main target audience for them. Which means when you do marketing like this, you are telling people who can see the reality "we are not interested in you if you can see the reality" and when people who have no idea how fake these streamer things are you tell them "oh wow he did that!! come on in maybe you can do it too!" and that is the type of people casinos want to attract. Why?

Because if you are a smarter person and know what you are doing, you will not end up losing too much money in a weird way, of course people can still lose money and that's fine, there are people who lose tens of millions of dollars, but the point here is that you may not end up losing too much to idiotic moves, if you make smart moves you could still lose tens of millions of dollars if you are a rich person.
You got the point!

Experienced ones would always have the edge when it comes to decision making and able to avoid possible unfortunate events since they are aware on whats happening in all sorts of things around.

It might not be precisely 100% because theres no such thing about knowing everything on this world but having experience and awareness on various industries or on how things works
or on how the scheme works would really be saving you out once you do encounter it.

Businesses would really be creating such methods or ways just for them to hook out players no matter what kind of way it is.It doesnt matter if it would be deceptive type or being honest
as long they can benefit out then that what matter most.
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May 10, 2021, 06:39:32 PM
I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.
I'm afraid that DYOR is the very thing that sometimes leads people to watch those streamers. Some people perceive these vids as reviews on certain casinos. I mean, this actually sounds insane, I thought everyone knew that they're getting paid for it, and the streamers are sometimes even open about such things. But, judging from the OP's post, apparently not  Cheesy
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May 10, 2021, 02:20:27 PM
The thing is some people are easy to accuse the site over what they experience (bad side) especially if it's an unknown site or it's know yet not to be trusted when they (these gamblers) themselves doesn't care to research a bit. I don't think I've seen a content in some video platforms about gamblers winning some huge stash just my themselves most of them are really that sponsored (I say most).

I am sticking on the trusted sites and even if they do that kind of advertising I wouldn't mind as long as they pay me if I won on my bets that's fine too.

In addition, a history of great victories will always exist. Whether in casinos or anything else. It is up to the person to realize that these events are exceptions and that because they happened to others, it does not mean that they happen again or that they happen to us.

This is the same as someone with a GPU undermining Bitcoin solo. How likely is it to win a reward? Virtually zero. But, even if it is 0.00000001%, it can happen. Despite that, it was an event that can never be repeated, and for that reason, it would not be very intelligent to go running and do the same with the right expectation that I would also achieve. You can try for the spirit of adventure, but you have to try to understand that the most certain thing is never to happen.
 
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May 10, 2021, 09:39:30 AM
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Some gamblers doesn't even make effort to look over the background of the gambling site they are planning to play at. A lot of those players were lately been scam. Regarding the specific topic, it's a form of advertising their site. One should know if the advertisement is exagerrated or not. As what OG said, as long as the games on their site are probably fair, and the site has no intention of being scam, everything is fine.
The thing is some people are easy to accuse the site over what they experience (bad side) especially if it's an unknown site or it's know yet not to be trusted when they (these gamblers) themselves doesn't care to research a bit. I don't think I've seen a content in some video platforms about gamblers winning some huge stash just my themselves most of them are really that sponsored (I say most).

I am sticking on the trusted sites and even if they do that kind of advertising I wouldn't mind as long as they pay me if I won on my bets that's fine too.
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May 10, 2021, 08:02:09 AM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.
Some gamblers doesn't even make effort to look over the background of the gambling site they are planning to play at. A lot of those players were lately been scam. Regarding the specific topic, it's a form of advertising their site. One should know if the advertisement is exagerrated or not. As what OG said, as long as the games on their site are probably fair, and the site has no intention of being scam, everything is fine.
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May 10, 2021, 07:04:36 AM
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It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.

Recently there was a case whereby a player was accusing a site I frequent on being a scam and rigged, despite them giving away tons of vouchers and having implemented provably fair.

It's just those special breed that think casinos are charities and all bets made must be won.
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May 10, 2021, 06:44:22 AM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.
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May 10, 2021, 06:16:51 AM
#95

When we get into gambling it is our responsibility to set our limits and have self control. In reality many gamblers fail in it. Every way of promotion will show only the product to be exciting and enjoyable. We the users need to analyse and understand the reality and make right decisions. With our experience we can create awareness which is the only good that a gambler can do based on his experience.

Online gambling is stiff competition and every one of them is vying to get a big slice of the pie, so expect a lot of fake promotions, fake stats, included on some gambling sites promotion, but not all of them there are gambling sites that thrive on transparency and honesty, your task as a player is to check if the gambling sites you are playing are honest and transparent with good reputation.
Part of playing in a gambling site is to have a feeling of security and comfort, knowing you are in good hands and if you win you're going to get your winning and if you break the rules they will tell you right away before playing.

 
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May 09, 2021, 06:37:46 PM
#94
I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
When we get into gambling it is our responsibility to set our limits and have self control. In reality many gamblers fail in it. Every way of promotion will show only the product to be exciting and enjoyable. We the users need to analyse and understand the reality and make right decisions. With our experience we can create awareness which is the only good that a gambler can do based on his experience.
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May 09, 2021, 05:13:05 PM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
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May 09, 2021, 04:54:00 PM
#92
In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.

How can it be wrong? If you say so, means that all advertisements that you see every single day on TV, Internet, Newspapers are all wrong?
Come on man, it is all about business. Any business needs advertising and these streamers are part of the business.
It will be wrong if those streamers forces you to gamble, if they gives you guarantee of win although I doubt if it is wrong thing to do since even if there is a streamer give you guarantee of win and you are being fooled of it then it is your own fault.
I do not mean to defend any sites or any streamers who do it, but it is what it is.
We as customers are the one who responsible for ourselves.
I agree. In every business its a must to execute an effective marketing strategy to attract people to use their product or in gambling to play on their sites. Im not against in this kind of strategy because it will depend on ourselves if we're going to bite their offer or believe on what we see. If the streamer lose or hit a jackpot (regardless if its real or he is paid to do so) dont expect the same destiny to happen to you.

Gambling itself is not a guaranteed money making platform or an answered prayer to become rich. Thats why only gamble the money you dont really need, because there's no assurance of good outcome if you gamble your money.
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May 09, 2021, 04:43:40 PM
#91
In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.
Those streamers have a huge viewers and that can be a good market strategy for every gambling site because it is being views by many, this may look immoral or what, but yes its legal and there’s nothing wrong about it. You can simply just watch the other live games if you think those streamers are just playing around without using his own money, beside they are not forcing us to watch and play, this is just their way to market that game and it looks effective that’s why they continue.
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May 09, 2021, 04:33:18 PM
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Not only critical thinking but also having that common sense you would need because there are things in life that we do encounter which are bit obvious.Even  without having sufficient experience or learning

but too wary on how things works or whats happening around you then most likely you would really be able to detect it out.Yeah, this can be considered to be a trick since this is a deceptive way of marketing

where those advertisers been using those sponsored money just to show off that they are really spending their own money from their pocket and making out huge bets as if theyre affected when they lost

but the truth is that they dont really just care at all and do only mind on the pay on where the company would be giving out later on.
Gambling attracts people who cannot keep their emotions in check, that is the main target audience for them. Which means when you do marketing like this, you are telling people who can see the reality "we are not interested in you if you can see the reality" and when people who have no idea how fake these streamer things are you tell them "oh wow he did that!! come on in maybe you can do it too!" and that is the type of people casinos want to attract. Why?

Because if you are a smarter person and know what you are doing, you will not end up losing too much money in a weird way, of course people can still lose money and that's fine, there are people who lose tens of millions of dollars, but the point here is that you may not end up losing too much to idiotic moves, if you make smart moves you could still lose tens of millions of dollars if you are a rich person.
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May 09, 2021, 01:58:22 PM
#89
In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.

How can it be wrong? If you say so, means that all advertisements that you see every single day on TV, Internet, Newspapers are all wrong?
Come on man, it is all about business. Any business needs advertising and these streamers are part of the business.
It will be wrong if those streamers forces you to gamble, if they gives you guarantee of win although I doubt if it is wrong thing to do since even if there is a streamer give you guarantee of win and you are being fooled of it then it is your own fault.
I do not mean to defend any sites or any streamers who do it, but it is what it is.
We as customers are the one who responsible for ourselves.
What you say is right, I've said about the streamers initiating common man to gamble through the fake bets. As you said everything is business, and we the customers need to take care of ourselves. However if a real streamer is wagering and following him if someone gets into gambling the newcomer will have known about true reality of gambling. That is why I mentioned usage of fake streamers as wrong way of promotion.
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