So it's almost a real-time war between big casino brands. Most are trying to capture that new gambler market, and try to be the one who will produce the most money for casinos. I'm not a big fan of fake youtube streamers and I don't follow them, but I'm guessing many new players do. In fact, I think a significant part of the interaction between newbies and casino games is via these youtube streamers. I feel this marketing strategy is making it's way into gaming promotions, and we will continue to see casino brands try to attract newbies in this way.
It is mostly the newbies in gambling that falls for the trap of listening to fake youtube influencers who are just after the money they will get in promoting gambling site, even with the game mindset. I think it is very important for newbies to look at what they want and where they can get good direction to what they want. 
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I agree, a lot of these so-called influencers do this kind of fake marketing and it should be punished by law, in my opinion. It would seem to me that these kind of people have learned a trick or two from the "day-trading" influencers who "teach" people how to do technical analysis and how to make daily profits by selling them a course they have to pay a fee for.
We really need laws so people won't do this crap.
I strongly believe that "day-trading" influencers has a very good relevance about these paid streamers on casino. The two are different matters. We really need laws so people won't do this crap.
I also initially know that these streamers are paid by the casino to advertise the casino (of course) however they do not force people to play, in the end it's ourselves to decide whether we play or not to play to that casino that is being advertised.
I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.
So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for. These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves. It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.
They are mostly the victims of this kind of advertisement.
the sole target of marketing, those kinds of people who are unaware of those stuff are the one that bring decent profits inside the house,
it's designed to bring people's interest hoping to do the same.
Without proper knowledge of what they are dealing with, they will lose money and continue repeating the same thing.
This is the time you would be telling things to people since you are aware and this is what we are saying now specially into those noobs.
Honestly, our own self will would be enough on minding us that there are things which isnt right or something deceptive.
I agree, a lot of these so-called influencers do this kind of fake marketing and it should be punished by law, in my opinion. It would seem to me that these kind of people have learned a trick or two from the "day-trading" influencers who "teach" people how to do technical analysis and how to make daily profits by selling them a course they have to pay a fee for.
We really need laws so people won't do this crap.
We really need laws so people won't do this crap.
So it's almost a real-time war between big casino brands. Most are trying to capture that new gambler market, and try to be the one who will produce the most money for casinos. I'm not a big fan of fake youtube streamers and I don't follow them, but I'm guessing many new players do. In fact, I think a significant part of the interaction between newbies and casino games is via these youtube streamers. I feel this marketing strategy is making it's way into gaming promotions, and we will continue to see casino brands try to attract newbies in this way.
Just because it has always happened doesn't mean that it needs to continue, nor does it mean that it is acceptable.
I just think that it is completely ridiculous that one is able to have the full faith and backing of the casino while acting like as if they are actually playing with their own money to give the appearance that making money is easy on a certain site.
The dramatic edits certainly don't help their cause either.
So it's almost a real-time war between big casino brands. Most are trying to capture that new gambler market, and try to be the one who will produce the most money for casinos. I'm not a big fan of fake youtube streamers and I don't follow them, but I'm guessing many new players do. In fact, I think a significant part of the interaction between newbies and casino games is via these youtube streamers. I feel this marketing strategy is making it's way into gaming promotions, and we will continue to see casino brands try to attract newbies in this way.
I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.
So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for. These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves. It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.
They are mostly the victims of this kind of advertisement.
the sole target of marketing, those kinds of people who are unaware of those stuff are the one that bring decent profits inside the house,
it's designed to bring people's interest hoping to do the same.
Without proper knowledge of what they are dealing with, they will lose money and continue repeating the same thing.
This is the time you would be telling things to people since you are aware and this is what we are saying now specially into those noobs.
Honestly, our own self will would be enough on minding us that there are things which isnt right or something deceptive.
After reading the entire discussion (which popped out of nowhere after a long time), I decided to join the discussion again. The problem precisely is about the structures or moral values which are permitted through blind greed.
''Squid games are not immoral if everything is fair inside the system.'' This is exactly what blind greedy capitalism wants to promote. The question is not about it is fair or not, It is about the morality of it and what kind of patterns of behavior it can give rise to?
Blaming an individual's due diligence is cover under which multi-million dollar unregulated, greed-oriented casinos can go off propagating such moral codes.
''Squid games are not immoral if everything is fair inside the system.'' This is exactly what blind greedy capitalism wants to promote. The question is not about it is fair or not, It is about the morality of it and what kind of patterns of behavior it can give rise to?
Blaming an individual's due diligence is cover under which multi-million dollar unregulated, greed-oriented casinos can go off propagating such moral codes.
I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.
So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for. These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves. It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.
They are mostly the victims of this kind of advertisement.
the sole target of marketing, those kinds of people who are unaware of those stuff are the one that bring decent profits inside the house,
it's designed to bring people's interest hoping to do the same.
Without proper knowledge of what they are dealing with, they will lose money and continue repeating the same thing.
Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.
I think that's cool, but for me it's non of the op business. Everyone chooses what they want and which direction they want to go in as much as no body force them. We all need to understand that the internet especially the social media is full of lies and untrue stories , so whosoever becomes brainwashed from what they see on the internet so there own problem. We need to be guided although and I'm not in any way supporting the act of fluencing people mindset I'm a dishonest manner. 
I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.
So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for. These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves. It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.
I also think that age in this case is the most important. After all, someone who has no experience and will see how "easy" it is to win money, the first thing they do is just register and deposit, and then of course a loss.
I think that this type of advertising should only be shown to registered users and within the allowed age.
I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.
So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for. These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves. It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.
It's really pointless watching any streamer that is playing any unskilled games like these. It's one thing watching absolute geniuses playing poker or chess, it's another thing altogether watching someone repeatedly click the same button in order for some sparkly graphics. It's possibly the laziest form of "gaming" in existence and you're definitely right that in most cases all of these streamers will be playing an unfairly rigged version of the game, or simply using money credited to their account so they don't actually lose any money. When it involves making (or as is mostly the case, losing) money then you need to be as skeptical as possible that someone will try to take advantage of you and use all sorts of advertising trickery.
Which is why we should really make use of our common sense whenever we do see these kind of streamers which i dont really see or find interesting on this part.
Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.
I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
Lol, you mean gambling with Russian roulette?
I'm not in favor of it but if people are going to do that then they'll put all their life's earnings on the table when on 1v1 with another, the winner gets to live and take the money of the other.
In any case, it's immoral and should be prohibited.
Russian roulette is a rather extreme example. In any case, I also think it should be prohibited. .. Of course I know you write about fake streams.
I am surprised that the websites allow this type of practice. Nevertheless, in my opinion it should simply be prohibited by law and everything will be clear.
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.
It's really pointless watching any streamer that is playing any unskilled games like these. It's one thing watching absolute geniuses playing poker or chess, it's another thing altogether watching someone repeatedly click the same button in order for some sparkly graphics. It's possibly the laziest form of "gaming" in existence and you're definitely right that in most cases all of these streamers will be playing an unfairly rigged version of the game, or simply using money credited to their account so they don't actually lose any money. When it involves making (or as is mostly the case, losing) money then you need to be as skeptical as possible that someone will try to take advantage of you and use all sorts of advertising trickery.
Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.
I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
Lol, you mean gambling with Russian roulette?
I'm not in favor of it but if people are going to do that then they'll put all their life's earnings on the table when on 1v1 with another, the winner gets to live and take the money of the other.
In any case, it's immoral and should be prohibited.
well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.
What you say makes a lot of sense and the same could be said about streamers from gambling industry. Gamblers who make a living from this activity don't need to share their life following the vlog methodology with the public. Actually, people who earn and deal with big money need to be careful and discreet all the time for their own safety and for the success of their businesses. As the saying goes: the secret is the key to the business.There is no problem with content creators trying to make some money through views or partneships with casinos, but it should be a must to let it very clear to the audience, so everyone knows what is going on and what are the real intentions of the respective video in exhibition. When nobody feels like being lured or tricked, the marketing campaign works much more efficiently on long run.
which its sensible for them to have on this method.
It isnt just that ethical if they would really be making those decieving kind of advertisement because they would know that it will really backfire on them.
As for advertisers or influencers had made out their own personal choice on altering something then thats a personal problem of course.
I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.
well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.
What you say makes a lot of sense and the same could be said about streamers from gambling industry. Gamblers who make a living from this activity don't need to share their life following the vlog methodology with the public. Actually, people who earn and deal with big money need to be careful and discreet all the time for their own safety and for the success of their businesses. As the saying goes: the secret is the key to the business.There is no problem with content creators trying to make some money through views or partneships with casinos, but it should be a must to let it very clear to the audience, so everyone knows what is going on and what are the real intentions of the respective video in exhibition. When nobody feels like being lured or tricked, the marketing campaign works much more efficiently on long run.
which its sensible for them to have on this method.
It isnt just that ethical if they would really be making those decieving kind of advertisement because they would know that it will really backfire on them.
As for advertisers or influencers had made out their own personal choice on altering something then thats a personal problem of course.
well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.
What you say makes a lot of sense and the same could be said about streamers from gambling industry. Gamblers who make a living from this activity don't need to share their life following the vlog methodology with the public. Actually, people who earn and deal with big money need to be careful and discreet all the time for their own safety and for the success of their businesses. As the saying goes: the secret is the key to the business.There is no problem with content creators trying to make some money through views or partneships with casinos, but it should be a must to let it very clear to the audience, so everyone knows what is going on and what are the real intentions of the respective video in exhibition. When nobody feels like being lured or tricked, the marketing campaign works much more efficiently on long run.
well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.
Many years ago I also tried to make money on Forex, but even then trading with the help of bots developed so much that it was almost impossible. But of course there were always such "teachers" who taught how to place bets correctly. They introduced themselves as specialists from serious brokerage firms. And pretty quickly I realized that they were just making money by retelling some of the rules and basics of trading. And that's all.
They themselves never play forex because they know they will lose. But their ad is also very similar to the one the OP wrote. And I think that this method of advertising is of course immoral, but everyone has long been accustomed to it and is condescending. The one who is smarter, of course, does not take seriously the happy faces who won the "artists", but probably there are also such naive people who take it for the truth. And advertising acts on them.
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