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legendary
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May 09, 2021, 01:51:46 PM
#88
In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.

How can it be wrong? If you say so, means that all advertisements that you see every single day on TV, Internet, Newspapers are all wrong?
Come on man, it is all about business. Any business needs advertising and these streamers are part of the business.
It will be wrong if those streamers forces you to gamble, if they gives you guarantee of win although I doubt if it is wrong thing to do since even if there is a streamer give you guarantee of win and you are being fooled of it then it is your own fault.
I do not mean to defend any sites or any streamers who do it, but it is what it is.
We as customers are the one who responsible for ourselves.
legendary
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May 09, 2021, 01:32:04 PM
#87
In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.
jr. member
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May 09, 2021, 01:12:02 PM
#86
Each gambling sites has their own strategy no matter how bad or good it is as long as they attract more players. Fake advertisements are everywhere because honestly, they wouldn't create ads that will discourage their players. Lots of streamers are also taking advantage of this opportunity and what we just need to do is just to be skeptical and be wise in choosing a good site and game.
I cannot agree with you more. In gambling, even businesses in every industry, tend to dramatize their content whether true or not just to attract people. It may be immoral to perspective of some but that is just how things worked and still are working. On the other hand, there are those people who share their reviews and expose such. 
sr. member
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May 09, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
#85
Each gambling sites has their own strategy no matter how bad or good it is as long as they attract more players. Fake advertisements are everywhere because honestly, they wouldn't create ads that will discourage their players. Lots of streamers are also taking advantage of this opportunity and what we just need to do is just to be skeptical and be wise in choosing a good site and game.
It is a much much better if gambling sites will just be honest and transparent on what they are promoting in the public. Honesty is the thing that can make loyal users that will trust the service. On the other hand, lies will just be seen sooner pr later, expect having distrust and small community to the site if that happened.
Personally I like those sites that are running contests.
full member
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May 09, 2021, 10:40:29 AM
#84
Each gambling sites has their own strategy no matter how bad or good it is as long as they attract more players. Fake advertisements are everywhere because honestly, they wouldn't create ads that will discourage their players. Lots of streamers are also taking advantage of this opportunity and what we just need to do is just to be skeptical and be wise in choosing a good site and game.
full member
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May 09, 2021, 04:00:14 AM
#83
Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)

I agree, when it comes to playing it's up to us where, when, and how much are we going to spend or wager, I don't see how these high rollers perform all I care is how I will play and how much I am going to wage, I already know that there is a lot of fakes advertising but I choose to ignore as long as I only play money I can afford to lose.
sr. member
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May 09, 2021, 01:37:19 AM
#82
turn around you , check all the sites that operates online and you will find that more than half of them are having this kind of strategy in their own ways , they might not looks like immoral but if you dig deeper then you'll find their Immorality .

This is common now mate , just be careful in your playing and in your choosing of site, if you are not comfortable then move on to other site, easy as that.
hero member
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May 08, 2021, 08:35:42 AM
#81
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


Education is the only thing that can stop people falling for these tricks, unfortunately the best education you will receive is sometimes losing money and using the pain of that experience to avoiding repeating the same mistake. It is sad that these "influencers" are able to get away with it and some countries have cracked down on this form of deceitful marketing, however it can be very hard to prove what is really taking place unless. These sort of tricks take place all throughout life, which is why you have to learn critical thinking skills and look at every angle like you did. Understanding that these gambling operations are a business that makes money from losing players is what you always need to consider when placing a bet. Some games like poker or live blackjack can possibly be gamed in favor of an intelligent player, but slots are literally random number generators with flashy graphics designed to move your money to the casino's pocket.
Not only critical thinking but also having that common sense you would need because there are things in life that we do encounter which are bit obvious.Even  without having sufficient experience or learning

but too wary on how things works or whats happening around you then most likely you would really be able to detect it out.Yeah, this can be considered to be a trick since this is a deceptive way of marketing

where those advertisers been using those sponsored money just to show off that they are really spending their own money from their pocket and making out huge bets as if theyre affected when they lost

but the truth is that they dont really just care at all and do only mind on the pay on where the company would be giving out later on.
legendary
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May 08, 2021, 02:28:07 AM
#80
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


Education is the only thing that can stop people falling for these tricks, unfortunately the best education you will receive is sometimes losing money and using the pain of that experience to avoiding repeating the same mistake. It is sad that these "influencers" are able to get away with it and some countries have cracked down on this form of deceitful marketing, however it can be very hard to prove what is really taking place unless. These sort of tricks take place all throughout life, which is why you have to learn critical thinking skills and look at every angle like you did. Understanding that these gambling operations are a business that makes money from losing players is what you always need to consider when placing a bet. Some games like poker or live blackjack can possibly be gamed in favor of an intelligent player, but slots are literally random number generators with flashy graphics designed to move your money to the casino's pocket.
sr. member
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May 08, 2021, 01:52:20 AM
#79
We all are in this crypto world where most of the corporate players (be it crypto casino, exchange, or ICO) are out of any govt regulation.
this is the reality of having in this community and we must understand that being here is already a risk so best to be knowledgeable .
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Even online gambling.
No consumer protection law protects you, what you spend is at your own risk.
and this is why I mostly laugh in thread like this , making stuffs as if they are already a victim but the truth is they seems like having a inside motive.
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What I want to say is if we get lured into large bet gambling by watching those streamers content, and if you lost your big money as a result, who is to be blamed? Crypto gambling by default is legally grey area as everyone knows, and we should protect ourselves from its own risk..
exactly , this is our own risk and our own stupidity , because gambling is already a grey area and everything that comes inside must surely grey.
newbie
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May 08, 2021, 12:40:27 AM
#78
I absolutely hate this tactic but here is the issue. You have YouTuber's who are "undesirable" to Google AdSense  advertisers for one reason or another. Usually these YouTube Channels that are targeted by the Casinos are the ones that already don't give a shit. Most of the ones your see these casino ads on are de-monetized by there home platform of YouTube for making content that's not advertiser friendly. Some of these channels will have millions of followers but the content they make isn't family friendly so instead of making tens to hundreds of thousands from YouTube they get paid just "hundreds of dollars". The work-around is merchandise (shirts/collectibles/etc) or taking ad placements from undesirable companies.

These YouTuber's need to monetize somehow and who is there to fill that role? When I say undesirable advertisers I'm talking about casinos, cigarettes, booze, and penis pills/sex toys lol.

The big YouTuber that comes to mind is Stevewilldoit. YouTube has De-monetized the shit out of that kid so he has to take on cringe-worthy impromptu on-screen "betting style ads" from casino advertisers. If your a young de-monetized YouTuber then RooBet Casino will be there to fill your monetization needs. They seem to be the worst offender in this space. They target young, moderately sized, mostly de-monetized YouTubers. On someone like Stevewilldoit you'll see both stealth placement ads (were they appear in his video without name dropping kinda like drinking a can of coke on a sitcom but playing roobet on a youtube video) OR direct placement ad where he will straight up say "brought to you by Roobet".

To be fair they have to advertise somewhere but I I'm like most of you. I cringe when I see predatory ad tactics like these. It's one thing to advertise your  brand but to have streamers that young people look up too appearing to win insane amounts of money by recommending dangerous "foolproof" betting strategies like doubling down till you win, etc. Whats worse is some of them "pseudo-advertise" their lack of KYC rules to attact players from the USA and underage kids.

So who is to blame here? The de-monetized Youtuber's hosting risky channels or the online casinos w/ cringeworthy ads  & laughable KYC enforcement... You be the judge of that.

legendary
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May 07, 2021, 02:32:45 PM
#77
Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.
That’s their job so be it, casinos are just doing their strategy to market their product and no one forcing us to wager on that site, that’s still our choice to make. This is not immoral as long as its legal, and if you feel its not necessary to do so, then avoid that specific gambling site or casinos, we all have different belief.

Among the marketing strategies, the ones they are saying are not aggressive at all, I have seen many marketing publications that buy traffic, that move masses by promising rewards and do not fully comply with them, I think that at the moment they promise they must fulfill there for me if There is immorality or lack of professional ethics, there are many sites that take advantage of the need of others to fulfill the objective, the biggest scenarios for traffic are still Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Facebook and forums doing shilling, the rewards they offer are sometimes very small but if many publications are made it becomes profitable, which turns people into slaves, that if it seems like a marketing that is something immoral.
Whenever what form or method it is then its up to personal views and impression if that kind of way is immoral or not because we do have different approach when it comes to certain things
but actually you do have some point when it comes to that. When it comes to aggressiveness then this one is just really been part but in terms of marketing as a whole
then there are lots of various ways.
legendary
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May 07, 2021, 02:26:00 PM
#76
Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.
That’s their job so be it, casinos are just doing their strategy to market their product and no one forcing us to wager on that site, that’s still our choice to make. This is not immoral as long as its legal, and if you feel its not necessary to do so, then avoid that specific gambling site or casinos, we all have different belief.

Among the marketing strategies, the ones they are saying are not aggressive at all, I have seen many marketing publications that buy traffic, that move masses by promising rewards and do not fully comply with them, I think that at the moment they promise they must fulfill there for me if There is immorality or lack of professional ethics, there are many sites that take advantage of the need of others to fulfill the objective, the biggest scenarios for traffic are still Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Facebook and forums doing shilling, the rewards they offer are sometimes very small but if many publications are made it becomes profitable, which turns people into slaves, that if it seems like a marketing that is something immoral.
legendary
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May 07, 2021, 12:52:21 PM
#75
Every business tries to lure customer with some fakeness otherwise you would not be attracted towards it.Casinos are taking bets and exchanges are faking trade volumes to make their reputation and customer base strong in the market.This is becoming thier promotional strategy to make profits out of your loss.Casinos not only fake bete but pay streamers to promote their casino which place huge bets on their platform and win high multiplier and the audience also get trapped in the same.This argument have been discussed earlier also but nothing major impact was made.So it is all on you if you are interested to play and wager on any slot game then go for it and with your luck, experience, strategies you can definitely win small or huge even if they are faking it you always stand a chance.It is not that they are spending money just to fool you but they want you to play which could be an opportunity for you to win even if you loose it can be recovered with one single high multiplier if you are lucky.So try to see positive as well as negative impact of everything.
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May 07, 2021, 12:28:19 PM
#74
I didn't know that there is something like that happening in gambling(I mean streaming gambling).
We don't really know if it is scripted or what but they are also playing just like us and it is a gamble or game of chance so they might just hit it at some point.
Just remember that even if they could win huge profit in gambling not everyone could do it,
Just because it seems easy when they do it doesn't mean that it is really easy to do.
They are streamer they have experience and skills I mean some of them not those who just shows boobs or sexy image to attract viewers.
legendary
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May 07, 2021, 12:17:57 PM
#73
We have to keep in mind, that is called to this type of game "gambling" and not "lucky game".
When you enter this type of game, you have to keep in mind that you are going to lose, and occasionally you can win. No, the other way around.

Now, there are many ways to try to withdraw some money in these types of games. And that involves marketing strategies, but aggressive, to trick more players into getting into this type of game.

 
legendary
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May 07, 2021, 11:00:41 AM
#72
Well, even we are regulars, we still get the "poison" when someone share big wins. This is a common strategy that makes us unable to stop playing completely.
Replace the "streamers" with "friends" and you will achieve the same result  Grin
Ohh shiiit man, I hope that doesn't refer to me Cheesy
I also get a ton of screenshots from "friends". Just wanted to say "Your Game isn't my Game", get your own passion :v

IMO the immoral marketing strategy of gambling is not promising big wins, but promising profits, ROI, etc., with the purpose of get rich quick or a job (source of income).
I never even bothered about the streamers (even watched their live streaming)
sr. member
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May 07, 2021, 10:44:03 AM
#71
You have to learn the tricks to win big in gambling digital marketing can be an interesting profession for those who are studying business education business administration if the marketing strategy in gambling does not work properly. Anyone can turn the wheel of their destiny if they want to can be financially self sufficient you can acquire skills and experience in education by joining an international organization one can engage oneself in freelancing or freelance profession. A combination of marketing strategies and strategies that bring an individual or business's online advertising to the top of google.
copper member
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May 07, 2021, 09:04:14 AM
#70
Seems that he started his gambling journey just after watching those streamers and perhaps he thinks that he can get the same result with the streamers.
Well, even we are regulars, we still get the "poison" when someone share big wins. This is a common strategy that makes us unable to stop playing completely.
Replace the "streamers" with "friends" and you will achieve the same result  Grin

IMO the immoral marketing strategy of gambling is not promising big wins, but promising profits, ROI, etc., with the purpose of get rich quick or a job (source of income).
newbie
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May 07, 2021, 08:20:29 AM
#69
We all are in this crypto world where most of the corporate players (be it crypto casino, exchange, or ICO) are out of any govt regulation.
Even online gambling.
No consumer protection law protects you, what you spend is at your own risk.

What I want to say is if we get lured into large bet gambling by watching those streamers content, and if you lost your big money as a result, who is to be blamed? Crypto gambling by default is legally grey area as everyone knows, and we should protect ourselves from its own risk..
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