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Quote from: Chato1977 on May 07, 2021, 06:26:56 AM

Quote from: thsceptic on March 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Loser , Gamblers are not fool , they knew what they are playing for and besides why sounds like very troubled ? have you lose too much because of your own foolishness falling from those traps?

Seems that he started his gambling journey just after watching those streamers and perhaps he thinks that he can get the same result with the streamers.
Advertising is everywhere in this world, we as consumers needs to be smart before deciding to choose any products.
We choose the products should not because of the advertisements but it should because we need it or we like the product.
That's how marketing or advertising works, showing a good thing of the product.
In case of gambling, 99% casinos will show big wins of their players for the marketing purpose.
It does not make senses if casinos show big loses of their players for the advertisement as it may make potential players worry/afraid to play.

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Quote from: thsceptic on March 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Loser , Gamblers are not fool , they knew what they are playing for and besides why sounds like very troubled ? have you lose too much because of your own foolishness falling from those traps?

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Quote from: dunfida on May 06, 2021, 05:59:02 PM

Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.

That’s their job so be it, casinos are just doing their strategy to market their product and no one forcing us to wager on that site, that’s still our choice to make. This is not immoral as long as its legal, and if you feel its not necessary to do so, then avoid that specific gambling site or casinos, we all have different belief.

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Quote from: just_Alice on May 06, 2021, 06:53:05 PM

IMO most of the streamers can't be trusted, especially the ones like you describe here, with big wins. But you can't blame them for doing it, they're getting paid for it and it's a standard advertising case, you are promised a lot in the ad - you receive barely any of that in real life. People ought to know that and use their own brains not to fall for it.

We don't blame the toothpaste companies to make people's smiles in the ads so white and shiny, while in real life it's nothing like that, right? It's just business, everyone does that. The only one to blame here is the person, that falls for the trap, not the one that sets it.

You would really be the one to blame if you do let yourself fall into these kind of advertisement and make yourself believe that you could also win big time just like on what those advertisers been doing.

Its not immoral though because they are just doing their job even if its a kind of deceptive but its up to you if you believe on and since we do have our own will then its just too obvious that theyre betting

habit is something that you can see very commonly.Betting just like theres no tomorrow since they do know that its not their money to lose.

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IMO most of the streamers can't be trusted, especially the ones like you describe here, with big wins. But you can't blame them for doing it, they're getting paid for it and it's a standard advertising case, you are promised a lot in the ad - you receive barely any of that in real life. People ought to know that and use their own brains not to fall for it.

We don't blame the toothpaste companies to make people's smiles in the ads so white and shiny, while in real life it's nothing like that, right? It's just business, everyone does that. The only one to blame here is the person, that falls for the trap, not the one that sets it.

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There are thousands of ways they do to get victims trapped in their gambling, big bonus offers, top up bigger yield balances, the bottom line: if we understand it all more avoid and do in a gambling site that has a good and fair reputation.

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Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.

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Quote from: adzino on May 06, 2021, 05:28:39 PM

Are you talking about those streamers that stream their gambling session? All of them are paid by the casinos. The money they receive for playing goes back into the casino. As far as I know, the streamers aren't allowed to withdraw anything. Hence, they don't care at all if they win or lose.

Yes that was OP is referring to. That kind of advertisement is already usual to see so OP just have to be used on it.

OP doesn't like the way because it's like a scam although it's still up to the viewers if they will gamble on the promoted site. We can see that kind of advertisement not just in the gambling but for other services, products and even games as well.

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Quote from: thsceptic on March 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Get used to it because this is part of marketing stuff and there's no way you can stop this kind of marketing way because streamers or influencers would most likely accept these kind of offers
knowing that they can generate income or money with just simply trying to fake out those wins and if you are a viewer who does know on how these scheme works then better shut up
and skip out and try to find another one. Why would be watching these streams if you do know that those funds are obviously sponsored?

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Are you talking about those streamers that stream their gambling session? All of them are paid by the casinos. The money they receive for playing goes back into the casino. As far as I know, the streamers aren't allowed to withdraw anything. Hence, they don't care at all if they win or lose. For them it's nothing. So they make crazy bets without even thinking twice since they aren't risking anything. All they have to do is play and when they win, scream so they can attract/tempt people who are watching to gamble. A very perfect marketing strategy where only fools would think this all are real!

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Quote from: Kittygalore on April 06, 2021, 06:06:13 AM

The people promoting the casinos online are not responsible for your decision that you are going to gamble on that site and lose your money, of course they are going to lie on their advertisement, they have to look good when a lot of people are going to see them, always remember that first impression lasts.

Yeah you're right. They promoting and to attract people they need to say all the good things of their business. Have you heard advertisement telling bad about their business? No. Advertisement is like applying for a job. You selling yourself, you tell everything good that makes you perfect fit for the role so you can get the position. That's the strategy and it for me it's not immoral. What ever the result of your gambling it's all your choice and decision nothing to do with the advertisement or people promote you.

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Quote from: Poker Player on April 06, 2021, 01:08:52 AM

The problem with this is if they are playing being paid by the casino under the table, as is being discussed. The sequence of plays described by the OP may be due to pure variance, but if it happens a lot it makes one suspicious. It should be investigated.

But it happens in almost all areas. Those who review the iPhone, a new game or anything else, if they are known, someone is funding them to do that job.

For example, I remember that a few years ago there was a controversy with Apple, for paying people to go to the queues when the new iPhones come out.

Is it a questionable marketing strategy? It might be. But it has been used unfortunately for many years. Sometimes these cases are known, but most are unknown.

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The people promoting the casinos online are not responsible for your decision that you are going to gamble on that site and lose your money, of course they are going to lie on their advertisement, they have to look good when a lot of people are going to see them, always remember that first impression lasts.

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Quote from: thsceptic on March 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

How can you call a marketing strategy an Immoral when they are just letting you watch for free and it is your prerogative to believe or not.

Since you have already has this Idea then you are safe from their strategy , and you can say whatever you want as long as you are no foul in words that you delivering for reading.

Remember that Those gambling site don't Force you to gamble so it is your stupidity if you fall into their traps.

We must be aware of our decision and action and losing is our mistake and not theirs.

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Quote from: Poker Player on April 06, 2021, 01:08:52 AM

The problem with this is if they are playing being paid by the casino under the table, as is being discussed. The sequence of plays described by the OP may be due to pure variance, but if it happens a lot it makes one suspicious. It should be investigated.

Investigated? I agree if the casino in question has a multitude of negative complaints against it, but I disagree if the casino is a legitimately popular site and has a positive reputation overall.

These marketing strategies are pretty common these days and are utilised to promote many FIAT and crypto sites successfully. You and op are overly sceptical in this case in my opinion.

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Quote from: thsceptic on March 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM

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^ What is wrong with the marketing strategy?
Please don’t take it offensively but marketing materials are made or created to get the emotions of the target market. On that one, it pertains to people who actually did the same or already experienced the same thing when they were gambling. And that is actually one of their best experience and the emotion is somehow high and great to them. Nevertheless, it was made to make them remember their experiences of winning from placing bets so they will be attracted to get in. Simple as that.

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give him a little time he will realize it. we have all seen it, their names keep coming up in the list of high rollers. i didn't even realize they are influencers/streamers until someone posted their youtube video. but hey they prefer that kind of marketing. a company would rather hire someone who personally has tried playing on them than someone who has not. if you are not convinced by these streamers then don't play to whichever he promoted. its still up to you.

We really have a choice to believe or not besides, this is just a marketing strategy and the casinos is not forcing us to play. Newbies have to realize that every casinos have their own marketing strategy, so its up to you if you’re going to play because of those high rollers marketing strategy, or you just want to play to have fun and you didn’t care with those marketing strategy at all. Here in forum there’s a lot of marketing strategy, like giving you the some extra reward if you place on too which very few are joining, so this is a sign that not all are biting those marketing strategy.

its the same with us who wears signature. i do bet on stake.com particularly on MMA and boxing. i followed these sports a lot though i'm not an expert to speculate who will win on every match. i can guarantee that i have at least more than 60% winning rate. in the UFC prediction thread, users speculate who will win on matches, its up to you to believe them sometimes i follow tokeweed's bet too. he didn't force me but i can see his bet makes sense. if the streamer influencer speculates as well, there is no forcing you to do the same but his marketing still matters for the casino.

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The problem with this is if they are playing being paid by the casino under the table, as is being discussed. The sequence of plays described by the OP may be due to pure variance, but if it happens a lot it makes one suspicious. It should be investigated.

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Quote from: thsceptic on March 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars.

i saw a video in a gambling group that looks like that except about the pajama part but i havent thought that he was related to the casino but maybe he was just sharing his experience . maybe thats how you trigger a big win ? you need to feed the site first and then the win will come out later on .

Quote from: thsceptic on March 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM

Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

if your an advertiser you need to act well so that you can attract costumers but putting a disclaimer that all are seen is just an advert is always appreciated .

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Quote from: mindrust on March 30, 2021, 01:32:52 PM

Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)

The reason that OP might've cared is because OP is easily influenced by people on the Internet or that OP got betrayed by his/her favorite entertainer or content creator. This goes to show that we have to take everything that we see on the Internet with a grain of salt. I agree with @mindrust about the people that are falling for this scam deserving to lost.

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