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legendary
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December 09, 2021, 10:11:52 AM
well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.

by that I mean the following:

people shouldn't be following in the footsteps of these streamers guys, people need to study their own strategies and bankroll management. It is illusory to think that someone would take a lot of money and be betting, betting, betting and then winning a lot of money to the point of making profits and then continuing with the same process being that person is a streamers, if he is a streamers he makes streamers to win money, he knows how hard it is to have money, he wouldn't make dangerous bets and people should think about that instead of copying streamers
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December 09, 2021, 09:48:50 AM
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I have seen many cases where the bets are very large and not all the time they win, many high rollers lose too, that It is normal, it is in the statistics, this is not technical, it is luck at 1000%, this is the great thing about gambling.
Gambling is unexpected luck that come from nowhere, you are right because no insurance or statistics that discuss and speak that when you bet in a larger form the case and opportunity of you winning is there.
legendary
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December 09, 2021, 08:34:02 AM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


If you see that they can lose 80-90% of their bankroll, which is thousands of dollars, you should stop and think what bankroll can you afford. So, it can be concluded that in case your bankroll can be only hundreds of dollars, you can easily lose all of it. I personally think that it's not an "immoral marketing strategy", rather it's our wrong conclusions from what we see is what makes us victims.
legendary
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December 09, 2021, 05:22:31 AM
What's the OP is babbling about? Haven't you heard of anything called promotion or advertisement? That's not an immoral marketing it was designed to attract players but it doesn't mean that it's impossible that it will happen. Anyway most of the gambling sites casino bets can be verified and you shouldn't worry about, I'm not sure why you are frustrated about this probably you just lose a lot of money after watching a gambling stream and tried to win too like what you have watched.
legendary
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December 08, 2021, 07:51:54 PM
The problem is many people out there still want that too good to be true can come to them but in their hearts, they really know that things were not there.
That streamer is smart to influence their audience and know how to convince them to follow what they say in their video so that makes us think twice, especially if we know that what they say is not always right.
It is difficult to stop them because if we report one of them, the other will come up with different material but have the same point.
If that audience can become wiser about what they watch and not just be attracted because of that video, they will not get the worst thing.
You have said something very true and that many people do not see it or perhaps do not want to see it, and that is that the good thing is not much, that applies to everything, in fact some of that applies to what is currently happening to the NFT games, and particularly with regard to streamers everything works if they are paid well, they are able to sell smoke, however there are some who take the trouble to investigate what the project is about in order to promote it and accept the money.
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December 03, 2021, 02:03:10 AM

The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


I don't trust these streamers, when promoting casinos or projects related to the investment they are good at making hype and deceiving their viewers from the reality of betting, newbies or new to gambling should take it from honest players that talk straight about the condition and reality of the gambling world because veteran players understand the risk and mentality of new players, they've been to that situation before and they don't want new players to suffer the pain of losing and don not want to have a fake expectations.

I guess, everyone knows already the job of these streamers, to attract more players on the site they are being paid to advertised. So if you know they are being paid, why should you believe what they are endorsing? Fake winnings and all. No one is obliging you to play on their site, they are only banking for gullible users who will be deceived by their misleading fake winnings. So in the end, it is up to the user if he will be attracted by seemingly too-good-to-be-true winnings.

The end point here always matter on what people preferred on why they play on gambling sites since if they are there since they are been hype for  the winnings shown by those streamers then for sure they cannot get a good scenario while playing on the hype site they are on. But if they seek for fun and just there for just interaction only then provably they will not get hurt for situation on it. To good to be true profit show is not true so people should always think about that.
The problem is many people out there still want that too good to be true can come to them but in their hearts, they really know that things were not there.
That streamer is smart to influence their audience and know how to convince them to follow what they say in their video so that makes us think twice, especially if we know that what they say is not always right.
It is difficult to stop them because if we report one of them, the other will come up with different material but have the same point.
If that audience can become wiser about what they watch and not just be attracted because of that video, they will not get the worst thing.
legendary
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December 03, 2021, 12:08:30 AM
When you think about it, gambling itself isn't the most moral around so luring people like that ~while it is indeed dishonest~ is not the most harmful thing in the world. This is like having a cafe with customers made of cardboard. As long as the people you lured in don't understand the difference, you are all good. If they realize that you tricked them though, they will probably won't visit your store again. In this situation you got 2 choices:

1- Stop cheating
2- Use better cheats
sr. member
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December 02, 2021, 11:37:33 PM
Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.

Lol this is gambling industry and everything that will favor a site and they may implement even if this is  a luring with immoral strategy.

You should know that because there are tons of gambling site here that has the same doing.

I am not in favor of what is going on but let us accept the fact that this is a gambling area in which bad action is more than a good one.

if we don't wanna deal with it then best to deny playing .

and besides they are not forcing everyone to bet on the specific sites so still it is your prerogative where and when to bet.
legendary
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December 02, 2021, 06:13:58 PM

The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


I don't trust these streamers, when promoting casinos or projects related to the investment they are good at making hype and deceiving their viewers from the reality of betting, newbies or new to gambling should take it from honest players that talk straight about the condition and reality of the gambling world because veteran players understand the risk and mentality of new players, they've been to that situation before and they don't want new players to suffer the pain of losing and don not want to have a fake expectations.

I guess, everyone knows already the job of these streamers, to attract more players on the site they are being paid to advertised. So if you know they are being paid, why should you believe what they are endorsing? Fake winnings and all. No one is obliging you to play on their site, they are only banking for gullible users who will be deceived by their misleading fake winnings. So in the end, it is up to the user if he will be attracted by seemingly too-good-to-be-true winnings.

The end point here always matter on what people preferred on why they play on gambling sites since if they are there since they are been hype for  the winnings shown by those streamers then for sure they cannot get a good scenario while playing on the hype site they are on. But if they seek for fun and just there for just interaction only then provably they will not get hurt for situation on it. To good to be true profit show is not true so people should always think about that.
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December 02, 2021, 06:07:41 PM

The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


I don't trust these streamers, when promoting casinos or projects related to the investment they are good at making hype and deceiving their viewers from the reality of betting, newbies or new to gambling should take it from honest players that talk straight about the condition and reality of the gambling world because veteran players understand the risk and mentality of new players, they've been to that situation before and they don't want new players to suffer the pain of losing and don not want to have a fake expectations.

I guess, everyone knows already the job of these streamers, to attract more players on the site they are being paid to advertised. So if you know they are being paid, why should you believe what they are endorsing? Fake winnings and all. No one is obliging you to play on their site, they are only banking for gullible users who will be deceived by their misleading fake winnings. So in the end, it is up to the user if he will be attracted by seemingly too-good-to-be-true winnings.
legendary
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December 02, 2021, 05:03:25 PM
Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.


Now there is a situation where fake people are becoming more and more prevalent, as a result of which people are believing in fake things and joining various fake companies. There are a lot of companies that spend a lot of money on marketing but do not pay any attention to improving their services, which is risky for the common people.
In order to earn money, people promote companies that can be dangerous for others and they can lose their money there.
They wouldnt care if it means on earning money, they wouldnt really mind off if they would be putting other people in trouble of losing money or in addiction as long they do make out money or salary for said promotion or advertising then that what matter most to them.

Agree on that part on where fake people becoming more prevalent and this is why as a newbie or zero knowledge on something kind of person
then its not really bad to make use of your common sense and made out some little bit research.
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December 02, 2021, 05:02:29 PM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Casino streamers should be treated with caution anyway. Because as you say, it's ADVERTISING THE CASINO!
And advertising is essential for such a company.
However, everyone should be aware that advertising should not always be taken 100% seriously.

Personally, I don't watch casino streams, if only because there's too much screaming going on. And that's without exception in every stream, regardless of the streamer.

And whoever gets triggered by something like that obviously has a problem with gambling, I think...
legendary
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December 02, 2021, 04:50:30 PM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


While there should be no doubt that many streamers out there are fake and given casino account balances that have not been paid for at all. It's worth a reminder that lots of (at least the ones not provably fair, usually fiat currency) of casinos will rig the games depending on the historical user deposits and remaining funds. These casinos want to keep players engrossed as long as possible, they want players to chase the few large wins while ignoring the many small losses. Just like real world casinos which are psychologically geared towards creating habits and confusing gamblers, these online sites can be even more devious when it comes to squeezing money out of players and will run all sorts of algorithms to maximize the amount you spend with them.
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December 02, 2021, 02:34:32 PM
Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.


Now there is a situation where fake people are becoming more and more prevalent, as a result of which people are believing in fake things and joining various fake companies. There are a lot of companies that spend a lot of money on marketing but do not pay any attention to improving their services, which is risky for the common people.
In order to earn money, people promote companies that can be dangerous for others and they can lose their money there.
sr. member
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December 02, 2021, 02:27:30 PM
Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.

You shouldnt bumped an old thread yet this is against on forum rules on which means you should avoid it up on the future to avoid some possible problems to be faced on.

On topic reply on where these strategies are really common.Sounds non ethical right? Doesnt really matter much because they dont really care at all.

As long they could make out some money or income which they wont believe into those sayings or criticisms or comments externally.
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December 02, 2021, 02:13:45 PM
Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.
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May 25, 2021, 01:07:57 AM
Well, I think the best reaction for this is to raise awareness to the people and the viewers that these players are somehow being sponsored by the gambling platforms to perform such things and to promote the platform.
They are not just players but they are influencers and AFAIK, they're telling that they've been sponsored unless they are really dishonest and don't disclose that they're misleading their viewers.
The algorithm is still the same though, I think we should focus on what we are doing and our gambling strategies and don’t mind them. That is the least we can do about it. As long as they don’t hurt us and force us to place bets then I think that’s good for me.
I agree, just ignore it if you don't like it and inform the community that they're based of what you're noticing if you want to voice out.
we are all in gambling for sole purpose . and that is MONEY.. Only hypocrite will say that they are only playing to make fun because the truth is the winning is what target means.
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May 22, 2021, 06:07:35 PM
Well, I think the best reaction for this is to raise awareness to the people and the viewers that these players are somehow being sponsored by the gambling platforms to perform such things and to promote the platform.
They are not just players but they are influencers and AFAIK, they're telling that they've been sponsored unless they are really dishonest and don't disclose that they're misleading their viewers.
The algorithm is still the same though, I think we should focus on what we are doing and our gambling strategies and don’t mind them. That is the least we can do about it. As long as they don’t hurt us and force us to place bets then I think that’s good for me.
I agree, just ignore it if you don't like it and inform the community that they're based of what you're noticing if you want to voice out.
hero member
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May 22, 2021, 05:30:32 PM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


It's good that you posted it here to raise awareness among new gamblers. The truth is that internet is full of fraudsters and scammers trying to gain benefit out of others.
We shouldn't believe everything that we see on the internet. To be honest we can't really do anything about those people but raise general awareness about them on various social platforms and forums.
Its not actually a fraud since they arent really forcing anyone to play on a certain site but somewhat these kind of behavior is really on the deceptive side which lots would really be having the impression that this thing is immoral since this is really misleading or making out those false hope specially to newbies that winning big is possible into this site but if we do really think off that those money being spent or use is being sponsored by the house unless if the influencer would announce that it isnt his money being spent but its unlikely to happen from time to time and rather those influencers would just simply play as if those money are their own.
So its up to someones awareness and a bit of common sense if they would able to find it out even if you are a noob, you can still sense it up.
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May 22, 2021, 11:23:04 AM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


It's good that you posted it here to raise awareness among new gamblers. The truth is that internet is full of fraudsters and scammers trying to gain benefit out of others.
We shouldn't believe everything that we see on the internet. To be honest we can't really do anything about those people but raise general awareness about them on various social platforms and forums.
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