Silly question: If the DHS seized the mtgox account @ dwolla, then why wouldn't they seize coinbase or any other american exchange? The end goal for the DHS is the same, you can use coinbase to buy btc and gamble illegally so basically it's the same...
Are we going to see more court orders for other exchanges?
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 33349. (Read 26462922 times)
May 15, 2013, 02:15:37 AM
May 15, 2013, 02:12:26 AM
And waiting to buy some at $100ish, and to buy big time sub $100
If Bitcoin doesn't surprise everyone again...
May 15, 2013, 02:07:15 AM
How are you traders doing with this volatility?
I sold a few at 113 and could have bought in for 1.5 BTC profit, but barely missed it and only made .2 after panic buying before it got back to close to 113.
I sold a few at 113 and could have bought in for 1.5 BTC profit, but barely missed it and only made .2 after panic buying before it got back to close to 113.
Made a 4.7% profit
And waiting to buy some at $100ish, and to buy big time sub $100
The Dwolla situation could scare the ass off some overinvested folks with trembling hands, anyhow this can improve a lot or get really worse depending on the next DHS move/explanation.
And from a practical point of view, you just do not convert an unseizable currency to one that will be likely be frozen. I never used Dwolla, but if I did last thing I would want is to get rid of my BTC for good at this moment, I guess people is just speculating that price will drop on these news and they want to buy back cheaper.
May 15, 2013, 02:05:06 AM
My favorite sound
May 15, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
I'm really surprised this doesn't get mentioned more often, but, there are a lot of people out there now, wealthy people, early adopters and new players alike, that have vested interest and a genuine belief in this technology. The market is thin enough that these people can help ensure the price and volatility does not reach a level that could cause a level of panic which would create harm to its now escalating adoption.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
Agreed. They are a few years too late in any endeavor to seriously attack bitcoin and not come off as tyrannical. The average Joe doesn't know what kind of power the banking cartel/monopoly has, and they certainly don't want him to wake up. They will tread carefully.
On a happier note, I transferred funds to Gox via Dwolla this morning. Hours later I get the DHS email. Regardless, they funded my account for the full amount just a little while ago. I doubt they want to loose customers over this.
Agree... And the key part here is that Bitcoin is now even more clearly te best way to move money. By cracking down on fiat movements (Dwolla), they can only make Bitcoin's perceived value as a medium of transfer increase. If the aim is to attack Bitcoin, this will prove to be a massive own goal.
Meanwhile, Bitcoins are now cheap, it's Wednesday, and Europe, which doesn't use Dwolla, is just waking up. Great time to buy.
Who is enjoy this!!! Complete recovery on the way?
May 15, 2013, 02:02:14 AM
May 15, 2013, 01:55:31 AM
How are you traders doing with this volatility?
I sold a few at 113 and could have bought in for 1.5 BTC profit, but barely missed it and only made .2 after panic buying before it got back to close to 113.
I sold a few at 113 and could have bought in for 1.5 BTC profit, but barely missed it and only made .2 after panic buying before it got back to close to 113.
May 15, 2013, 01:33:11 AM
I'm really surprised this doesn't get mentioned more often, but, there are a lot of people out there now, wealthy people, early adopters and new players alike, that have vested interest and a genuine belief in this technology. The market is thin enough that these people can help ensure the price and volatility does not reach a level that could cause a level of panic which would create harm to its now escalating adoption.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
Agreed. They are a few years too late in any endeavor to seriously attack bitcoin and not come off as tyrannical. The average Joe doesn't know what kind of power the banking cartel/monopoly has, and they certainly don't want him to wake up. They will tread carefully.
On a happier note, I transferred funds to Gox via Dwolla this morning. Hours later I get the DHS email. Regardless, they funded my account for the full amount just a little while ago. I doubt they want to loose customers over this.
Agree... And the key part here is that Bitcoin is now even more clearly te best way to move money. By cracking down on fiat movements (Dwolla), they can only make Bitcoin's perceived value as a medium of transfer increase. If the aim is to attack Bitcoin, this will prove to be a massive own goal.
Meanwhile, Bitcoins are now cheap, it's Wednesday, and Europe, which doesn't use Dwolla, is just waking up. Great time to buy.
May 15, 2013, 01:17:28 AM
I'm really surprised this doesn't get mentioned more often, but, there are a lot of people out there now, wealthy people, early adopters and new players alike, that have vested interest and a genuine belief in this technology. The market is thin enough that these people can help ensure the price and volatility does not reach a level that could cause a level of panic which would create harm to its now escalating adoption.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
Agreed. They are a few years too late in any endeavor to seriously attack bitcoin and not come off as tyrannical. The average Joe doesn't know what kind of power the banking cartel/monopoly has, and they certainly don't want him to wake up. They will tread carefully.
On a happier note, I transferred funds to Gox via Dwolla this morning. Hours later I get the DHS email. Regardless, they funded my account for the full amount just a little while ago. I doubt they want to lose customers over this.
May 15, 2013, 01:10:51 AM
I'm really surprised this doesn't get mentioned more often, but, there are a lot of people out there now, wealthy people, early adopters and new players alike, that have vested interest and a genuine belief in this technology. The market is thin enough that these people can help ensure the price and volatility does not reach a level that could cause a level of panic which would create harm to its now escalating adoption.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
The U.S. government is attacking this thing with flailing arms, and while it can scratch and do some superficial damage, the mark will be missed. This time, it really is up to the people.
May 15, 2013, 01:01:47 AM
May 15, 2013, 01:01:37 AM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (...) LL
Either it's a bug, or someone broke the protocol again.
Either it's a bug, or someone broke the protocol again.
May 15, 2013, 12:57:56 AM
May 15, 2013, 12:55:24 AM
Maybe is just a continuation of the limitations in United States against online gambling
Thanks telemaco, and this article is a good find.
Thanks.
If is something related to gambling and the feds continue their war against online gambling the bad news might not be so severe in the way that it might not be worldwide (they have limited gambling related sites from usa but not from the rest of the world), so the damage to bitcoin might not be "global" with warrant requests all over the world like they requested from New Zealand to fight against K. Dotcom. Also fighting against gambling might not have the same popular backing as calling a war against bitcoin in order to fight terrorism, child abuse or some other things.
May 15, 2013, 12:48:01 AM
It looks like it broke out, the EMA on Clark's graph has crossed.
May 15, 2013, 12:44:38 AM
Is anyone using bitcoinwisdom.com ? I just stumbled upon it via reddit and I'm shocked I never knew about it. It's like clarkmoody...but with better graphs and a harder to read order book... at least to my eyes.
It's almost as good, but I prefer clarkmoody's graph, even if it's sometimes buggy. But I like that this graph is steeper looking.
I like to be able to configure the EMAs. couldn't on clarkmoody
May 15, 2013, 12:38:23 AM
Maybe is just a continuation of the limitations in United States against online gambling
Thanks telemaco, and this article is a good find.
May 15, 2013, 12:36:50 AM
Is anyone using bitcoinwisdom.com ? I just stumbled upon it via reddit and I'm shocked I never knew about it. It's like clarkmoody...but with better graphs and a harder to read order book... at least to my eyes.
It's almost as good, but I prefer clarkmoody's graph, even if it's sometimes buggy. But I like that this graph is steeper looking. Then again, the other chart is steep enough. Both have very few indicators. Too bad there's not a chart with pivot/fibo.
May 15, 2013, 12:34:31 AM
$100 has held firm this time... We're seeing higher lows at each successive dump.
May 15, 2013, 12:34:00 AM
Is anyone using bitcoinwisdom.com ? I just stumbled upon it via reddit and I'm shocked I never knew about it. It's like clarkmoody...but with better graphs and a harder to read order book... at least to my eyes.
Wow thanks for sharing it. Very good graphs indeed!
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