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The real underlining factor here is usually based on which of the two gamblers is experiencing negative vibes from gambling such that lack of sleep kicks in, depression is knocking on the door , suicidal thoughts, deteriorating health, social life is affected to the point of barely having friends..I guess we all know that the losing gambler is in a bad spot here and a reason to show us who is better between the two!!

But then again, other people say never give up as you never know when luck turns in your favour...so one gambler might look the better of the two but tomorrow tables might turn.


I am more than sure that if someone who regularly wins one day "cheats" on himself and his luck leaves him, his experience and habit of playing will not let him sleep peacefully. Even if he regularly loses but remembers the experience of victories, he will turn into an addicted player faster than someone unlucky.
This is deep coming to think of it, but experienced gamblers don't chase their losses to avoid this kind of mental torture. And there is no point in living in the past when the future offers a clean sleeve to start on.
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The system is designed to always favour the facilitators therefore you have to stop gambling when you have somehow won them. Continuing to gamble is inviting failure to yourself as you can't beat the odds of the house winning. To not become an addict, we shouldn't wait until we have failed before we quit. Waiting is inviting pressure unto us as we'll want to win back our losses but everyone knows that's unlikely to happen. The difference between an addicted gambler that win and those that lose is their addiction is having a different impact on their lives even though they both are gambling addict. I'll prefer to be the gambler that is winning with my addiction than who's losing and still has addiction to battle.
It is not how often the gambling activity or how accurate the predictions made by the gambler will be the thought that the gambler is addicted or not. but rather control over finances and the ability to control themselves to be able to get out of the game.
luck can indeed come to anyone, even if you are a gambling addict. but what makes the difference is how to manage the victory that is already in their hands. addicts may withdraw some and then continue the game. but in the end, they will lose everything.
addiction has an impact that is more inclined to lose, not a win.
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Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.


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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.
This quote made me create this thread.
Let be realistic, as there no chance that someone will be winning everyday in his predictions not even with a 60% for that matter and there's no proven strategy to that fact. However, that it happens that someone gets lucky to be having a constant win on daily predictions I doubt it will be regarded as an addiction because from all discussions I have seen in the forum concerning gambling addiction it has always related to losing. And that begs the question, is gambling addiction only relative to perpetual gambling losses?
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It make sense if you know how to control yourself, as most of the time it's your own will that direct to lose your control and over exceed your finances, though gambling is surely deesign for the owner/facilatators to earn money, there are some experienced gamblers who quite good to earn decently, though there's no assurance that they will win always, but the chance is better as they know how to control and how to maximize their luck.

The system is designed to always favour the facilitators therefore you have to stop gambling when you have somehow won them. Continuing to gamble is inviting failure to yourself as you can't beat the odds of the house winning. To not become an addict, we shouldn't wait until we have failed before we quit. Waiting is inviting pressure unto us as we'll want to win back our losses but everyone knows that's unlikely to happen. The difference between an addicted gambler that win and those that lose is their addiction is having a different impact on their lives even though they both are gambling addict. I'll prefer to be the gambler that is winning with my addiction than who's losing and still has addiction to battle.
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Sadly, that is correct. If you are winning, you won't look desperate and wear homeless clothes which means you sure have found your career in gambling.

But if you are losing money, you are hungry and most probably because you still gamble even without money, you are desperate and likely end up homeless because you still wouldn't stop gambling despite the situation. I guess that's something the gambler needs to realize himself. Winning is good and losing is bad.

Intensively,the psychology behind that statement or emotion needs to be studied and researched on too.Life is quite unfair to the losers of gambling,this same fortunes also applies to other various aspects of one's Life.
 Winning and losing in gambling can occur consecutively,and it's also a matter of time,but the advantages outweighs the disadvantages.Everytime is not a good time to gamble,Ina's much as life is tough, everytime will be tough.Even if you gamble professionally,you can still fail/lose.

As a gambler,been addicted is a bad trait but engaging in various wins makes and guarantees you as a successful gambling expert😔
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Outside of gambling, the same thing happens. There are people who are lucky in business and they are called successful businessmen, but there are people who for some reason went bankrupt and they are called losers. In fact, at any moment everything can change.

The gambling system is created in such a way that most gamblers lose and only a small part of gamblers win. Win on a regular basis only professionals who spend all their time in this area. For them gambling is a job like any other. Sometimes it is hard, sometimes unbearable, and sometimes bringing joy.
And don't forget for those who have their luck in gambling so that can help them winning instead the lose gamblers. Winning and losing in gambling is a matter of time but for the most, we can lose our money without we have a big chance to recover or winning back our money. That will be difficult but that will not stops those who already lost their money in gambling because they will still trying to recover their money even they know the risks that they will get. A gambler professionals will know how to treat gambling while the lost gamblers will not thinks too much about their losses so that can attract them to return to the casino and keep playing gambling.

They must know that gambling can give a joy when they win but also give a sadness when they win too much money. If they don't want to lose much money, they will only need to manage their money to playing gambling and always use limitation. If they lose many time but can prevent the big lose, maybe they will not be called as addicted to gambling but they give some time to playing gambling in their busy daily and enjoy their moment in gambling.

It make sense if you know how to control yourself, as most of the time it's your own will that direct to lose your control and over exceed your finances, though gambling is surely deesign for the owner/facilatators to earn money, there are some experienced gamblers who quite good to earn decently, though there's no assurance that they will win always, but the chance is better as they know how to control and how to maximize their luck.

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I am more than sure that if someone who regularly wins one day "cheats" on himself and his luck leaves him, his experience and habit of playing will not let him sleep peacefully. Even if he regularly loses but remembers the experience of victories, he will turn into an addicted player faster than someone unlucky. Gambling games can be cruel at times; they very quickly become attached to themselves, but it is difficult to get rid of them if you do not have a clear understanding that you cannot control luck.
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We are taught from childhood that you should always strive to win, but not taught to lose with dignity. I think there are flaws in that kind of education. It is quite possible that many gambling addicts can not accept their losses only because they have not learned to lose. They are afraid to stop and try to win back again and again and again, sinking further and further into problems. As I have said many times, losing in gambling is just as natural as winning, so you need to be more relaxed about losing. 
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There are only such gambling games as poker in which you can win on a regular basis if you become a professional. And if we will publicly conduct streams, then this will increase our expected income much more due to donations from subscribers and a possible working contract with a poker room. There are several such professionals who have been playing like this for several years and they are doing well, I would even say excellent. But at the same time, you need to understand that for every one such professional player there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of ordinary players who will lose over a long distance. I just wanted to mention that there are those who win on a regular basis, but it all starts with the ability to play and complete self-control, strict discipline, otherwise you will not achieve excellent results without this.
There are several stages in gambling. A gambler cannot start gambling today and become a professional in one week or two. The reason is that they have to go through several stages in gambling before they can become better or be professional in poker. There is the winning stage, the losing stage, the stage where they feel like quitting, the stage where they tend to do more research on the game they are playing and study it to get better and all of these stages combined make the gambler get more familiar with the game thus he would have so much experience that will help you become better gambling. Let us not forget also that after passing through this stage his emotions toward gambling will be stronger than how it was at the very beginning.

Outside of gambling, the same thing happens. There are people who are lucky in business and they are called successful businessmen, but there are people who for some reason went bankrupt and they are called losers. In fact, at any moment everything can change.

The gambling system is created in such a way that most gamblers lose and only a small part of gamblers win. Win on a regular basis only professionals who spend all their time in this area. For them gambling is a job like any other. Sometimes it is hard, sometimes unbearable, and sometimes bringing joy.
Such is life. But I have learned not to judge people because they keep failing after they have tried so much in life. The truth some persons see it as hard luck but sometimes you just have to keep trying and they will get it. I dont think any gambler would say they have not had any win since they started gambling. Of course they have won and what will make them think they cant win again. No one was born a winner and no one was born a a loser. We just have to put effort to become the winner.
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Outside of gambling, the same thing happens. There are people who are lucky in business and they are called successful businessmen, but there are people who for some reason went bankrupt and they are called losers. In fact, at any moment everything can change.

The gambling system is created in such a way that most gamblers lose and only a small part of gamblers win. Win on a regular basis only professionals who spend all their time in this area. For them gambling is a job like any other. Sometimes it is hard, sometimes unbearable, and sometimes bringing joy.
And don't forget for those who have their luck in gambling so that can help them winning instead the lose gamblers. Winning and losing in gambling is a matter of time but for the most, we can lose our money without we have a big chance to recover or winning back our money. That will be difficult but that will not stops those who already lost their money in gambling because they will still trying to recover their money even they know the risks that they will get. A gambler professionals will know how to treat gambling while the lost gamblers will not thinks too much about their losses so that can attract them to return to the casino and keep playing gambling.

They must know that gambling can give a joy when they win but also give a sadness when they win too much money. If they don't want to lose much money, they will only need to manage their money to playing gambling and always use limitation. If they lose many time but can prevent the big lose, maybe they will not be called as addicted to gambling but they give some time to playing gambling in their busy daily and enjoy their moment in gambling.
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One cannot get too excited and also one cannot be too upset about the outcome of any gambling game. As a gambler gambled, the outcome came in his favour, and because the outcome came in his favour, he was motivated to gamble and continued to gamble more, but the outcome might not be in his favour. On the other hand, if a gambler loses and gets overexcited after gambling with win or lose, and recovers the amount of money he has lost in a quick time, if he bets or gambles with all his money, he still loses his entire money. There will be a possibility of going. Every gambler must first be responsible and stay within certain limits. A gambler cannot make random decisions by being over-emotional in happiness or at a loss.
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Do not let yourself to be deceived, no one can win that often, those that claim they do are either ignorant about how those casinos games work or they are scammers themselves trying to get people to give them money.

And it is easy to verify this is the case since the only thing you need is a little bit of knowledge about the odds behind the game of your preference and a spreadsheet software to simulate those results, and I can assure you that as long as the sample size is high enough, such a high win percentage will never happen.

Is there any gambler that still believes winning consistently is possible in gambling? I think only newbie gamblers will be the one to believe such fallacies. Although, some people play once in a blue moon and luckily win whenever they decide to play but that doesn't make them a serial winner because they are not regular gambler. If it is possible to win every bet, they'll probably not be interested in people's money before sharing their games with them. They normally use gullible gamblers to cash out to recover their own loses and predict games with double chances. If you are familiar with gambling, you'll definitely not pay anyone for games even if they claim to have been winning consistently because it's not possible.
There are only such gambling games as poker in which you can win on a regular basis if you become a professional. And if we will publicly conduct streams, then this will increase our expected income much more due to donations from subscribers and a possible working contract with a poker room. There are several such professionals who have been playing like this for several years and they are doing well, I would even say excellent. But at the same time, you need to understand that for every one such professional player there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of ordinary players who will lose over a long distance. I just wanted to mention that there are those who win on a regular basis, but it all starts with the ability to play and complete self-control, strict discipline, otherwise you will not achieve excellent results without this.
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Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.


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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.
This quote made me create this thread.


Addiction is not about winning or gambling 24x7.  Addiction is incapableness to quit gambling at the right moment, the latter may be relevant to any circumstances - winning, losing, end of bankroll,  health reasons, you name it. Even those who can be considered as the experts in the field my belong to the class of addicted persons. Thus, in this respect,  there is no difference between the two in your example. Both may be either addicted or not.
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Do not let yourself to be deceived, no one can win that often, those that claim they do are either ignorant about how those casinos games work or they are scammers themselves trying to get people to give them money.

And it is easy to verify this is the case since the only thing you need is a little bit of knowledge about the odds behind the game of your preference and a spreadsheet software to simulate those results, and I can assure you that as long as the sample size is high enough, such a high win percentage will never happen.

Is there any gambler that still believes winning consistently is possible in gambling? I think only newbie gamblers will be the one to believe such fallacies. Although, some people play once in a blue moon and luckily win whenever they decide to play but that doesn't make them a serial winner because they are not regular gambler. If it is possible to win every bet, they'll probably not be interested in people's money before sharing their games with them. They normally use gullible gamblers to cash out to recover their own loses and predict games with double chances. If you are familiar with gambling, you'll definitely not pay anyone for games even if they claim to have been winning consistently because it's not possible.
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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.
This quote made me create this thread.

For me seeing the both of them from a very far point of view I think there are no much difference between the both of them and this is because they are both addicted to gambling whereas the other one tend to win when he gambles but the other Doesn't except when lucks finds him one-day.

I know some persons think when your winning you ain't addicted clearly not correct because in cause of winning you keep playing cause you don't want to lose for whatsoever reason and your chances of lucks are higher so there's certainly nothing like being an expert gambler, so what if eventually one-day you had to lose a game what will be said of him instead..
So if your winning  basically gambling on daily basis and losing as well doing Same thing your definitely an addicted gambler.
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Outside of gambling, the same thing happens. There are people who are lucky in business and they are called successful businessmen, but there are people who for some reason went bankrupt and they are called losers. In fact, at any moment everything can change.

The gambling system is created in such a way that most gamblers lose and only a small part of gamblers win. Win on a regular basis only professionals who spend all their time in this area. For them gambling is a job like any other. Sometimes it is hard, sometimes unbearable, and sometimes bringing joy.
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Do not let yourself to be deceived, no one can win that often, those that claim they do are either ignorant about how those casinos games work or they are scammers themselves trying to get people to give them money.
Anyone call themselves an expert in gambling is a scammer. They should never be trusted, just like you should never trust someone selling fake cures aka charlatans. A little amount of good reading into the gambling mechanics and how the casino industry works, any gambler will realize their mistakes.

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And it is easy to verify this is the case since the only thing you need is a little bit of knowledge about the odds behind the game of your preference and a spreadsheet software to simulate those results, and I can assure you that as long as the sample size is high enough, such a high win percentage will never happen.
If tried it could verify and solve a lot of myths that people regularly have about casinos. Most people are not willing to accept the reality because magical thinking is common and the easier to understand solution.

Casinos too, are wise enough to promote the players wins but not the losses.
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Some of us have seen gambling base on different approach, we may not get up to our expectations if we are not on a right page with the way gambling is to everyone, gambling is all about having fun, if what we have in mind towards gambling is to make money or win continuously, then we may not achieve the best and others may see us as addicted gambling than we are not in it entirely, i think having mentality in gambling is what differentiate the kinds of gamblers we have
That's true. My approach is there's a possibility that one gambler could see another gambler, winner or loser, as just a normal thing. I mean, we should understand each other since we have been through different ups and downs. This is why I don't condemn those who share their stories about losing because I also have been in that same position and I can tell how stressful it is that you want to somehow release it by sharing their story.

But how about those who are non-gamblers? Most of them will judge a gambler especially the loser because they don't understand it and they have no experience with it. I think we as gamblers should accept that reality because that's how the world works. The same with other addictive substances, smoke, and alcohol. They are easily criticized because of their bad habit especially if they are crossing the line and taking it to another level which is addiction.
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Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

By the way, i would not classify the gambling addict on the basis of the result of gambling. An addicted gambler who gambles a lot using a lot of portfolio may be lucky and winning but he cannot win forever. There will be a time when he will lose his bets and since he over-exposes his capital he will soon find himself in a big loss and there is nothing to be proud of if anyone is having a patch where he is winning some consecutive bets. Also skill does not play any part in it and hence it is not right to say that someone is an experts in predictions. No one is expert as no can know the outcome of all the matches.
This is true, there is no gambler that will win every day because therd always bad/hard days in everything one is doing, not to talk about gamble that is a 50/50 thing. However, those that win 90% might be good on predictions but it's won't last long because with time things will change in the casino. Every company has the rights to update their casinos, mostly when they noticed that gamblers are winning with one particular option, they change it so it will be a little bit hard for the gambler to win.
Do not let yourself to be deceived, no one can win that often, those that claim they do are either ignorant about how those casinos games work or they are scammers themselves trying to get people to give them money.

And it is easy to verify this is the case since the only thing you need is a little bit of knowledge about the odds behind the game of your preference and a spreadsheet software to simulate those results, and I can assure you that as long as the sample size is high enough, such a high win percentage will never happen.
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Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

What causes addiction is misplaced of priorities with gamblers.

We are not being addicted in gambling because of winning or not, we all know that in gambling, we most likely tend to lose than winning, moreover not all gamblers were gambling for making money, but some will be gambling and they you will obviously see that some certain things were not right about the same gambler and when you look more closer into the reason behind that, all you could figure out is gambling addiction being the major cause.

I would love to agree with you on this one but I'm of the opinion that winning or losing can be a factor that can trigger gambling addiction
In the aspect of winning most people allow greed to take over them entirely and this can make a person gamble constantly, losing can also cause an addiction with gambling especially when you start chasing your losses, there must be something that would capture your mind, it's impossible to just get addicted without a cause , all you have to do is identify what the cause of your addiction is before it turns into a serious problem
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