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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.

This quote made me create this thread.

This is really a nice topic because the argument about gambling addiction is one sided. I have never seen a post associating gambling addiction to winning, it is always when there are losses of high magnitude that we remember there is something called gambling addiction. But it has not even occur to me that we can call someone that is winning a gambling addict, instead it may be right to see the person as wise and a good investor. I tend to agree with this though because if there is no progress in gambling, it is expected that the gambling control his gambling to avoid much damages.

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But if you are an experienced gambler, you should know that it is never possible that a gambler can continue gambling for 24 hours and be able to win all his predictions.

Also, even if an expert gambler is winning all the time, he or she cannot stand to gamble for 24 hours and neglect every other important thing that they need to do. When you are winning, you are an expert, but experts in gambling also experience losses; experts don't chase losses; experts know when to stop; and experts don't sell their house to gamblers. Experts still have some rules that they work with and only gamble when the score is favorable to them, but the addicted gambler can experience many losses while chasing losses. The addicted gambler can miss out on other important activities because of the distraction from gambling.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.

This quote made me create this thread.

When someone is constantly engaging in gambling whether he's always in profit or loss, that is classified as an addiction, let's face facts some people are very lucky in life, but luck luck doesn't shine on anyone everyday, you can be making progress for a while but with time you'll start losing everything.. Making too much profit can make you an addict and losing can also make you addicted, so both cases are not mutually exclusive but every gambler must have a sense of moderation

Yes, this means that addiction is not measured by the results but by the actions and behavior of the gambler, it doesn't matter whether you always win or whether you always lose, the point is that when you gamble excessively in the sense that you can't spend even a moment without being involved in gambling then it is clear that in call it an addiction.

Luck does exist and everyone has luck in their life, but I think we all know that luck is something that happens by chance, meaning there is no element of consistency to always be lucky all the time, meaning luck does exist but consistency is another thing, or This means that luck is something that is temporary as you believe and that is true, meaning that I don't believe that there is an ordinary gambler who always wins every day in the long term, that is doubtful.

So in my opinion the point is that when you gamble every day it means you are addicted, because there is excessive interest so you do it often regardless of the results.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.

This quote made me create this thread.

Same addiction only applies on these two people, but I think the other one is more intelligent compared from the one who always made losing streaks. Though that person who won many times because of his certainties in predicting goods bets, it doesn't give him the excuses of not being addicted. Once the habit became gradual and excessive addiction really took place.

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It might be the same answer given in the other thread related to this thread. I don't know if people know how gambling addiction starts in gambler's life. It starts whether you are winning or losing. Winning every day can't stop you from being and addicted. Addiction comes from the mind and not the winning. Winning can make a gambler to be more addictive to gambling because as that time you don't want to go home with empty pocket so you will be continue gambling to fill your pocket.

Once one can control his mind then whether he wins or lose he can't be addicted. Be a responsible gambler know when to gamble and when to quit in the day. And it is not possible for gambler to win everyday. He must lose one day.

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Quote from: summonerrk on July 24, 2024, 09:21:54 AM

The concept of a successful gambler has already become very blurred. It’s just that now is a time when we see a lot of gambling influencers, and no one knows how much they earn. These guys set themselves the task of attracting as many people as possible into gambling on their streams, while these gamblers and influencers most likely plan to live on advertising money. And not at all for winnings from gambling.
And this is nonsense, because it is easier to call such people showmen rather than gamblers.

Maybe that concept is blurred but the gambling addiction can happens to all gamblers, no matter if they are an experienced gamblers or novice gamblers. Gambling addiction can comes easily for all gamblers especially when they don't have a good control while they playing gambling and not reminds that they can becomes addicted to gambling. That's why they must not playing gambling excessively because that can makes them getting addicted to gambling and use all of their money without any left.

The influencer is only attract attention from many people to follow them to playing gambling. If people getting attract to gambling, that will not influencer wrong because that will people's decision to playing gambling. If those people can't control themselves in gambling, they will becomes addicted to gambling and that is not a mistakes from influencer or other people who brought them into gambling because that will be responsibility to each people.

Right.
In general, the topic of independence in gambling is very relevant. If someone does not know how to control themselves, then they are doomed in gambling. How many stories have we heard about betting when one friend was jealous of another friend’s winnings, and because of this he began to play and play. Moreover, if he had knowledge in sports, he thought that this is how he would apply it. And that was a mistake.
We must don’t envy others, we can’t think that we smarter than everyone else, we can’t succumb to advertising provocations. This is exactly what casino promoters are waiting for, because they know our psychology very well.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

the only difference between them is the first gambler is winning and the other gambler is losing. both of them may or may not have a gambling addiction, the frequency of how much you gamble isn't the only basis to tell someone is addicted or not. anyway, the reason why people view the gambler who constantly win as an expert and the who constantly losing as addicted gambler is probably because of lack of education on the subject.

let me ask you same question, someone who is a frequent gamble and when it gamblers at least ten (10) times weekly and it loses at least six (6) and win win four (4) out of ten, will you describe the person as addicted gambler, I think that question op asked is reasonable enough, because we alway see someone who addicted or frequent gambler as addicted gambler and we see the person as someone who doesn't think properly, but I don't know for you but people whom I have seen discussing gambling always make such utterance, do think is good to say someone who gamble that much and win most of what it gambles is addicted gambler

Could you be more preise with the analogy, is it placing ten stakes or haing 10 different gambling sessions for just a week. Also how long are you intending for each gambling session to last?. I think this explanation would help me formulate a proper response to this question with statistics.

A person who wins most of his gambling sessions but gamble frequently is an addicted gambler since he spends more than enough time gambling. There ought to always be a balance in our activvities so that we don't over do it and create future problems from our present overindulgence. He is winning today right?, would he win forever?

Have you thought about what would happen if this same person starts experiencing losses?, do you think by any miracle he would be able to restrain himself easily from experiencing terrible losses since it is a default action for him to gamble frequently developed from the time he was securing hefty wins?

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7)

What sure is the gambler will die ASAP because they didn't eat, didn't drink, didn't pee, didn't shit etc because they gamble 24/7 and everyday.

Quote from: Republikcoin.com on July 25, 2024, 03:17:02 AM

I have never even found someone who is truly an expert at gambling except someone who is lucky in gambling so I started to conclude that when it comes to gambling you can only rely on 80% luck and the rest is knowing how to play and knowing how to place money and how to It's interesting when you win. But in cases like this of course there will always be quite different assessments from each person because if there is someone who is truly an expert at gambling, of course he will always win more.

It's really hard to find such guy since they always to hide from the crowd, the casinos ban or limit them, that's why you never found them. What we're seeing is self pro claimed professional gambler who're losing, but they want to build their branding to gain followers and selling their shitty course/secret.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on July 25, 2024, 03:17:02 AM

I have never even found someone who is truly an expert at gambling except someone who is lucky in gambling so I started to conclude that when it comes to gambling you can only rely on 80% luck and the rest is knowing how to play and knowing how to place money and how to It's interesting when you win. But in cases like this of course there will always be quite different assessments from each person because if there is someone who is truly an expert at gambling, of course he will always win more.

I've seen many of them that are full-time and half experts I'd say. I'll classify them as that because they've been gambling all of their lives and that's a real-life they are having as an actual gambler.

I guess we've got classifications of who can we call gambling experts and not. And the sense of winning gives us the idea that they're good and could be an expert upon looking at their outcomes.

But at the end of it, they all vary and one can say they're an expert but it might have been just their lucky day.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 24, 2024, 06:43:06 PM

If you look at the definition of gambling addict, it doesn't correspond to whether the gambler is in winning or losing streak. It is more of emotional aspect of the person. Is he losing control of himself or preoccupied with things he couldn't contain himself when in front of his games? What is the tolerance level of this person? Is he satisfied with himself just to play one hour or could go for longer hours? How about his bets? Is he continuously betting and further increase his bets?

if you read my whole post and not just the very first sentence you'll see that this is basically what I am saying, the frequency of a gambler winning, losing or the frequency of how often they gamble isn't the only basis for telling whether someone is addicted or not.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on July 25, 2024, 01:58:33 AM

Do we really have to believe that there is expert gambler? or everyone of us are relying in 50% luck and 50% skills ?

that would be what i do believe in my years of gambling .

I have never even found someone who is truly an expert at gambling except someone who is lucky in gambling so I started to conclude that when it comes to gambling you can only rely on 80% luck and the rest is knowing how to play and knowing how to place money and how to It's interesting when you win. But in cases like this of course there will always be quite different assessments from each person because if there is someone who is truly an expert at gambling, of course he will always win more.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.

This quote made me create this thread.

Do we really have to believe that there is expert gambler? or everyone of us are relying in 50% luck and 50% skills ?

that would be what i do believe in my years of gambling .

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.

This quote made me create this thread.

When someone is constantly engaging in gambling whether he's always in profit or loss, that is classified as an addiction, let's face facts some people are very lucky in life, but luck luck doesn't shine on anyone everyday, you can be making progress for a while but with time you'll start losing everything.. Making too much profit can make you an addict and losing can also make you addicted, so both cases are not mutually exclusive but every gambler must have a sense of moderation

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

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If a gambler is always winning we won't say that the gambler is addicted to gamble but we will say that the gambler is an expert in predicting games.
However this days we do not call those that are winning addicted gamblers but we call those that are losing addicted gamblers.

This quote made me create this thread.

Without a doubt the results a person can get determine what other people think about them, so I do not find this surprising or odd, if a gambler can use their knowledge to beat the casinos, then even if this took them forever, we will think of them as successful.

However if the results they got were negative, there is little doubt we will think about them as having a problem and being in dire need of an intervention so they can stop that behavior at once.

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Quote from: summonerrk on July 24, 2024, 09:21:54 AM

The concept of a successful gambler has already become very blurred. It’s just that now is a time when we see a lot of gambling influencers, and no one knows how much they earn. These guys set themselves the task of attracting as many people as possible into gambling on their streams, while these gamblers and influencers most likely plan to live on advertising money. And not at all for winnings from gambling.
And this is nonsense, because it is easier to call such people showmen rather than gamblers.

Maybe that concept is blurred but the gambling addiction can happens to all gamblers, no matter if they are an experienced gamblers or novice gamblers. Gambling addiction can comes easily for all gamblers especially when they don't have a good control while they playing gambling and not reminds that they can becomes addicted to gambling. That's why they must not playing gambling excessively because that can makes them getting addicted to gambling and use all of their money without any left.

The influencer is only attract attention from many people to follow them to playing gambling. If people getting attract to gambling, that will not influencer wrong because that will people's decision to playing gambling. If those people can't control themselves in gambling, they will becomes addicted to gambling and that is not a mistakes from influencer or other people who brought them into gambling because that will be responsibility to each people.

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This is just people’s opinion, and it varies from person to person. I have seen many people calling both types of people as addicts, as they risk the money in order to make money. Moreover, I have also seen people calling these professional gamblers; they do so because they continuously win the game and bet again with the profits they have earned from the previous bets. If you are not forcing anyone for money or not lending money and just using your own money and profits to gamble, then society doesn’t look on you in a disgusting manner. For them, you are just an expert gambler with lots of strategies and tactics.

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although I doubt that there will be bigger wins even if he is an expert, I think it is the same as addiction, because if he can get more wins it allows him to continue gambling and makes his adrenaline peak which can make it difficult to get out of it. Apart from that, winning or losing can of course be addictive, the same as other games, maybe when you win you will be addicted and when you lose you will become curious and that can happen to everyone.

by gambling every day and getting bigger profits than losses does not guarantee that he is a healthy gambler, because I think if he gambles every day it already indicates that he is an addict. because someone who is addicted tends to not be able to get through his daily life by gambling, so there is a feeling of wanting to gamble and it cannot be suppressed so he gambles every day without missing a single day. That's my own view, I don't know anyone else's. because of course everyone's views are different, but in my opinion, gambling every day is a sign that he is addicted, even though the profits are greater than the losses.

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Quote from: acroman08 on July 24, 2024, 03:41:12 PM

the only difference between them is the first gambler is winning and the other gambler is losing. both of them may or may not have a gambling addiction, the frequency of how much you gamble isn't the only basis to tell someone is addicted or not. anyway, the reason why people view the gambler who constantly win as an expert and the who constantly losing as addicted gambler is probably because of lack of education on the subject.

If you look at the definition of gambling addict, it doesn't correspond to whether the gambler is in winning or losing streak. It is more of emotional aspect of the person. Is he losing control of himself or preoccupied with things he couldn't contain himself when in front of his games? What is the tolerance level of this person? Is he satisfied with himself just to play one hour or could go for longer hours? How about his bets? Is he continuously betting and further increase his bets?

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Quote from: acroman08 on July 24, 2024, 03:41:12 PM

Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

the only difference between them is the first gambler is winning and the other gambler is losing. both of them may or may not have a gambling addiction, the frequency of how much you gamble isn't the only basis to tell someone is addicted or not. anyway, the reason why people view the gambler who constantly win as an expert and the who constantly losing as addicted gambler is probably because of lack of education on the subject.

let me ask you same question, someone who is a frequent gamble and when it gamblers at least ten (10) times weekly and it loses at least six (6) and win win four (4) out of ten, will you describe the person as addicted gambler, I think that question op asked is reasonable enough, because we alway see someone who addicted or frequent gambler as addicted gambler and we see the person as someone who doesn't think properly, but I don't know for you but people whom I have seen discussing gambling always make such utterance, do think is good to say someone who gamble that much and win most of what it gambles is addicted gambler

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 23, 2024, 03:34:49 PM

Hello gambler.
Am just wondering if one is gambling everyday (24/7) and he's winning in all his predictions (let's say 90% of his games are won) we do not call the person an addicted gambler, but we only say that he's an expert gambler. But if a gambler is not winning and he's gambling everyday we do call the person an addicted gambler.

I will still call an expert gambler who records over 90% win an addicted gambler if he shows signs of irresponsibility in gambling. Irresponsibility in gambling does not only mean or apply to a gambler who loses, it also applies to the gambler who wins on regular basis.
If anyone is selective or reluctant in tagging any gambler an addicted gambler because of their win rate or success in gambling that person is just being biased.

You are correct mate. An addicted gambler is not only the one who looses in gambling but an addicted gambler can also win gambling good number of times. Someone who is addicted is one who can stay without gambling. Addicted gambling will still want to play to recover lose in gambling after losing so many times, addicted gambler will want to continue gambling after winning a jack pot. Addicted gambler would want to do anything to get money just to play gambling at all time, I think this is just the way to know someone who is addicted to gambling. Their is nothing like expert in gambling because the game is unpredicted, mot people who claim to be expert of gambling are addicted because they can't control the way at which they gamble.

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