Topic: What are the differences between this 2 gamblers? - page 3. (Read 983 times)

Yes, although I would say that having a 90% winning accuracy is something that is possible for the luckiest person in the world, but in the end everything will be according to what you said that there will always be a day where everything will not end according to expectations.
It is very unlikely for a gambler to be able to win continuously without losing at all because after all there is no element of consistency in the results at the end of the game, if that were true then of course it would mean that gambling could be said to be a risk-free activity, but the fact is that no matter what and until whenever gambling will always be a risky activity because the risk will always be part of the game.

Gambling is a business for casinos that aims to benefit them as a whole and in the long term, meaning that if you are nothing more than an ordinary gambler like most gamblers then 90% accuracy with a long-term winning streak without losing at all is unreasonable.

Basically, winning and losing has nothing to do with addiction, a person can be addicted to gambling even if they are winning all the time, and they can also be addicted if they are constantly losing, but what matters is that when you are losing and still aren't able to stop, you are too deep into it because you can clearly see that you are not benefitting from it but you still keep going.

On the other hand, when you are winning, there is basically nothing wrong, you are not losing anything, you are not in stress or worried or have any mixed emotions, so you can continue without any problems.

This is why, I would say one shouldn't be called addicted to gambling only when they are losing, but when they are losing and still gambling, their addiction is more visible than someone who is winning and gambling more.

Some of us have seen gambling base on different approach, we may not get up to our expectations if we are not on a right page with the way gambling is to everyone, gambling is all about having fun, if what we have in mind towards gambling is to make money or win continuously, then we may not achieve the best and others may see us as addicted gambling than we are not in it entirely, i think having mentality in gambling is what differentiate the kinds of gamblers we have

First, 90% winning rate is really that something too good to be true but we cant be sure if there are people who do have such stats or simply we do make ourselves that delusional but since we are assuming that it does exist then lets put up it into the talks. You cant really be able to say that these people are really that not addicted towards gambling, on which it just turns out that they are winning and this is why it would really be covering up with those kind of assumptions that someone isnt really that addicted but rather they do really know on what they are doing but in overall it all matters about self control and discipline, because on the moment that you do find yourself having no control specially into your fund then this is where shit things do happen.

Making up some comparison wouldnt really be that something that will be precise. We can be able to pinpoint addicted gamblers behavior but on the other side of things there are still
those people who are included but not really that much obvious because they do really know on how to handle themselves on such scenario.

You can call a gambler who is always winning an addict, but you're never going to find one outside of skilled games like poker. Casinos are in business to make money and they make money by emptying the wallets of all people who go on their websites. They do it consistently on things like slot games because they tell you up front that you are guaranteed to lose on average 2% or more each time you start a new spin. There is no way to defeat the simple mathematical logic that goes into these games and the random number generators might throw you little prizes occasionally, hell you might get a large payoff, but that is because they know you are likely to pour it all back into them.

This is true, there is no gambler that will win every day because therd always bad/hard days in everything one is doing, not to talk about gamble that is a 50/50 thing. However, those that win 90% might be good on predictions but it's won't last long because with time things will change in the casino. Every company has the rights to update their casinos, mostly when they noticed that gamblers are winning with one particular option, they change it so it will be a little bit hard for the gambler to win.

Yeah definitely not normal to get that kind of batting average here in the real world! Maybe in a movie like back to the future where the dude got the sports betting book for every game in the last 100 years lol

I would like to clarify right away about a person who plays gambling and whose winning percentage is 90% or so. I don't know such people, this does not mean that there are none, but I have not met such people. In fact, there was a similar topic on this site. I think that both the person who loses and the person who wins are addicted. It's just that when a person earns money, it automatically makes people treat his activities more positively. But as soon as he starts losing, then it will be clear that he is addicted to gambling too.

It's a great question honestly.  People generally associate addiction with negative issues that come along with it.  Now if you are winning all the time there still could carry negative effects like loss of time with your family because of your 24/7 gambling.  It's not only financial issues but social ones as well.  I'd say anyone that does something 24/7 is addicted and it's not good.  Life needs balance to be able to have a completely enjoyable life.  Don't let's the wins overcome the unseen downside to constant gambling.

90% means perfect win but I'm sure the OP explained this as an example of an expert gambler winning 90% even though it's unnatural.
So I think back now then it's the everyday players who win because the losers are looked at negatively, once you win you will get positive marks in your circles for winning.

A gambler who usually wins and is basically in profit wouldn't need to make reckless bets or bet with amounts that he can't afford to lose, that doesn't make any sense. If I'm making sports bets, and I'm winning most of my bets, I wouldn't need to stake everything that I have won so far because I'm not at a loss that I try to recover my losses, I should be happy with what I have won so far without having to become reckless with my bets all of a sudden.

A gambling addict would usually be a person who doesn't win a lot, and they always try to recover their losses in that process, when they don't get success, they become addicted because they can't stop betting when they are at a loss, it goes against the egos of human beings.

So, in general, a gambler who loses more tends to become addicted and someone who is profitable will have a lower chance of becoming addicted to gambling.

It won't only make sense if they will still continue even knowing the risk that are involved with it but if they don't know it, then I won't say that it doesn't make any sense. We don't know maybe this was only their first time and they can still realize the good from the bad later on.

There are times that we have an urge and we can end up playing the game but this doesn't mean that we will now gamble non-stop which leads for us to get doomed later on, however, like they say; it's always better to be safe than sorry. I wouldn't be confident because gambling is a highly addictive activity. I get screwed with this already a lot of times and I'm still battling this urge of mine.

If your take to addiction is based on the winning rate of a gambler, I think you aren’t making much sense from the world. Let’s not forget, you don’t get addicted in only gambling, there are a wide range of applications for the word.

One can be addicted to drinking,
You can also be addicted to drugs.
That’s just to mention a few.

Addiction generally takes about having an uncontrollable desire to gamble at every given opportunity and at any cost. Winning rate doesn’t come into play here, it largely describes the habit but, if someone has a high winning rate, good for the person but, it doesn’t make the individual any less an addict should they gamble in uncontrollably.

Presumably the player with a vast win record is highly selective in their gambling.  The losing addict bets on anything with seemingly no method or restraint which leads to pointless losses.   

If you bet and are wrong, you must adjust course or repeat the mistake presumably is the overall judgement.  Of course most bets and outcomes are quite random so its a highly judgemental not too helpful idea but Im pretty sure there is a quality difference between the winner and the loser.   

I don't think there is, or I mean there will never be an ordinary gambler who has a 90% winning percentage in gambling, it's impossible, there is no special connection or relationship between ordinary gamblers and casinos.
Even though they are one of the luckiest people in the world but if the context of the conversation is gambling then I think it still doesn't make sense.
Casinos create games to benefit themselves because gambling is a business for them where it is clear that the purpose of the business is to get the maximum profit possible, meaning that when the number of gamblers who lose increases then their profits will also be greater. And also added again there is no element of consistency related to the results in gambling, or I mean maybe now you win but it won't last long because defeat will always come and become part of the game, meaning I really don't believe if there is an ordinary gambler who has a 90% winning accuracy rate and always wins all the time.

Well that's a very interesting question, but I don't think we could say that a winning bettor is not addict just because he's always winning or at least because he wins enough times to stay in profit. We should first wonder, what will happen to this guy if for some reasons he can't bet anymore. If he's able to still continue his life without troubles, we eventually could say he wasn't actually addicted. But it's hard to say before it really happens. In addition, someone can win plenty of bets, and one day encountering a very bad losing streak, or betting a very risky amount he can't afford to lose and losing it all despite that.

I mean I think this is just a pipe dream personally, who do you know that wins 90% of the time with gambling? This is not realistic, unless they are the luckiest person in the world they wouldn’t even come close to 90% maybe like 75% if even that

Gambling addicts We call people who gamble, sell houses and get into debt because of regular gambling but we don't call people who don't get into debt from regular gambling and earn money from regular gambling gambling addicts. Here, as a gambling addict, if I say in general, two people are gambling addicts. Because a person who sets aside a certain amount of income for gambling and gambles only for entertainment, that person cannot be called a gambling addict because he gambles only for entertainment. Now if a person who is taking part in gambling for entertainment wants to stop gambling then he can stop gambling whenever he wants but a person who is constantly gambling and making money or losing a lot of money by gambling constantly cannot stop gambling. Because he is addicted to gambling. So OP I would say that the person you mention here is a gambling addict because he has developed a good addiction to gambling by participating in regular gambling games.

By the way, i would not classify the gambling addict on the basis of the result of gambling. An addicted gambler who gambles a lot using a lot of portfolio may be lucky and winning but he cannot win forever. There will be a time when he will lose his bets and since he over-exposes his capital he will soon find himself in a big loss and there is nothing to be proud of if anyone is having a patch where he is winning some consecutive bets. Also skill does not play any part in it and hence it is not right to say that someone is an experts in predictions. No one is expert as no can know the outcome of all the matches.

Gambling addictions features more than just losing, because someone can be winning his games and still be an addicts, when you talk about gambling addictions you are looking at a disorder regardless of which direction the outcome of the games are going, so if someone gambling uncontrollably even though he wins all the time which is not possible as far as gambling is concerned you can't win all the time, infact you can't win even 50% of your games talk more of winning 90% of their games as you mentioned, is not possible let alone winning all the games,let no one deceive and if any gambler's tells you that he wins all his games it means he is speaking out of addictions control since that is not possible and is either the ops is not monitoring his gambling activities very well and under overdose of addictions to the point that he can't recall his loses any more which is a worst stage of the addictions.
Gambling shouldn't be looked at as a means to win win win, of lose l, lose lose, but gambling is for fun and once you are over doing it, you are no longer having the fun but being controlled by greeds and on the persistent base you become a core addicts so regardless of what the name given to it, addictions is addictions and we should try as all means to stop it when it get us hucked believing that we are winning.