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All of them.
When you're rich, you surely have achievements and you're going to be popular and famous wherever you go.
When you've got achievements, then that means that you're famous and you're likely to earn a lot because of it.
So, I agree to that person who's said that it's in the form of everything.

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Thank you for agreeing with me.

And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.

Yes like that. the definition of success will be different when viewed from different points of view. different points of view are born from the characteristics of a person and the background of each person is not the same. even a dream between one and the other will be different. like the wishes of someone from a lower middle class family and someone from an upper middle class family will obviously be different. so we can't equate everything. Success can be a simple thing or it can even be a complicated thing. depends on someone understanding it. although everything ends in the same thing, namely happiness and satisfaction. and sometimes it's hard for everyone to understand each other. like me who can't understand someone from among the antique collectors.

I'm with you on this one. How can you be happy from buying an antique chair, or a cup? And how about unopened bottle of poison, like this one?

And yet, it makes some people feeling over the moon when they get those things. It's the highest point of success to them.

But it's worth noting that without enough money they would not be able to afford such acquisitions.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 08, 2022, 12:54:42 AM

Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

A person's success can be seen from any side
like you said you measure success by satisfaction and happiness
but the level of satisfaction of people is different and as we know humans are never satisfied, always less and less always wanting more
so in my opinion success in the sense of my life is money where if we have money we can create our level of satisfaction and happiness,

In this case it is true but on the other hand the most important factor still refers to money because indeed when looking at a person's condition, the success factor is measured by money.
Let's take the example of some of today's billionaires like Elon Musk, Bill Gates and many others, they can be considered successful because they make a lot of money there, so regardless of their own satisfaction, money is still an important factor in measuring success.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 08, 2022, 12:54:42 AM

Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

A person's success can be seen from any side
like you said you measure success by satisfaction and happiness
but the level of satisfaction of people is different and as we know humans are never satisfied, always less and less always wanting more
so in my opinion success in the sense of my life is money where if we have money we can create our level of satisfaction and happiness,

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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 24, 2022, 04:29:39 AM

contentment and happiness, because no matter how many achievements, money, cars, and properties you have, without happiness and contentment, you can never satisfy yourself, you'll always be missing a piece.

Contentment leads to happiness yes but we can not tell our self how successful we are, it depends on the outsider to say. Although inside we can be fulfilled but success itself is not what we can say of ourselves but it is the public that will quantify our success based on different criteria and comparison with others, such criteria include your age, education, pair group, social glass, family history and inheritance because those also play some roles to how successful we can be.

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Success is a very very hard to explain, I mean it could vary depends each person. For me, success is something that I wanted that takes a lot of time for me to achieve. However, the very best success I could and anyone could have is contentment and happiness, because no matter how many achievements, money, cars, and properties you have, without happiness and contentment, you can never satisfy yourself, you'll always be missing a piece.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 23, 2022, 05:55:29 AM

Thank you for agreeing with me.

And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.

Yes like that. the definition of success will be different when viewed from different points of view. different points of view are born from the characteristics of a person and the background of each person is not the same. even a dream between one and the other will be different. like the wishes of someone from a lower middle class family and someone from an upper middle class family will obviously be different. so we can't equate everything. Success can be a simple thing or it can even be a complicated thing. depends on someone understanding it. although everything ends in the same thing, namely happiness and satisfaction. and sometimes it's hard for everyone to understand each other. like me who can't understand someone from among the antique collectors.

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With personal and professional growth, we understand that the environment around us begins to strengthen not because of the amount of money you have, but because of the quality of the people around you, even if our life goals are not achieved.

There are people who use the term success and money, but they don't know how much of it they want...and that's a big problem, many successful people don't know how much of the minimum expenses they need to live, they just know they want more.

A person who lives with the minimum knows exactly how much he needs to be happy, sometimes it is very little because his happiness is buying food, while for others happiness is a material object, but both are happy and consider that they are successful because they reach their goals. objectives, one of survival and the other of vanity.

As long as I surround myself with people who love me and appreciate me for who I am, it may be cliche but that is my greatest success.

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I think there's no such thing as success. When we look at what we believe are successful people, we just see their outer appearance and when they are in the lime light of the world, but in their inner lives, they often are sad, depressed. I don't think one can ever achieve "success", success is when we won the race and took birth, after that success is just surviving everyday against the universe that loves entropy, chaos and disorder so much.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 23, 2022, 05:55:29 AM

Thank you for agreeing with me.

And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.

Money defines my success - it is true that money gives us power, without money - I am very upset.
When my bank account drops - my blood pressure also drops and when I get money - I feel happy and comfortable

Their are many things that can be described to be success. If we should be honest to ourselves 90% of persons on earth will consider money and wealth to be the kind of success they want first. We all have different occupations we depend on for survival and if it is not giving us the amount of money we wish, we won't be happy and it can make one to feel as a failure. Having money is the first success in life, because that is what everyone of are striving for in our everyday life. Let's be sincere one of the things that gives man joy so much in life is when their is money to solve problems and to help friends and family.

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~ Take Bill Gates for example.
Bill Gates defines success as Happiness. he does not measure success based on the money he has earned. Instead, he measures every achievement by his own happiness. isn't that simple? yeah it's simple. because a successful life is happy. that is when we can feel happy even though it's in ordinary moments and in ordinary conditions.

Well, if you have 110 billion USD and you are the fifth-richest person in the world, you can probably say(and think) that money is not what you need, you need happiness.

But for us, regular folks, it's mostly money what we need to be happy. I'm not saying all rich people are happy. Far from it. But if you have no money, it's hard to feel happy, especially when you have kids that want to eat. You can shoot some heroin into your veins, or drink alcohol with your friends, losers like yourself, and feel happy, but I don't think you can be called successful in that case.

I agree with this. I forgot that the definition of success will be different when viewed from a different perspective. you are right, rich people maybe they don't think about money. because they already have a lot of money so they don't worry about lack of money. I forgot about that. that the standard of living also plays a role in this.

Thank you for agreeing with me.

And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 08, 2022, 12:54:42 AM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

People have different definitions of success. If they think that's about money and fame, then so be it. We don't have to argue about that and make it a big deal.

We don't know the difficulties they faced in their life, the challenges they face, and the worst thing they have experienced.

If after overcoming those and they are able to earn big money and fame and they called it a success, that's their achievement and just respect their views.

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Quote from: MidNite36 on September 21, 2022, 12:12:37 PM

Money doesn't defines my own success, being able to accomplish my goals is what I called a success, I can have all money earned through inheritance and decide to never pursue any dream, that's a whacked life, your life will get boring so quickly, everyone has their own meaning of being successful this is mine.

When you do already have the money then it would be considered as success since you could buy everything that you do want but its true that there are some
things which we do really want to achieve in life like reaching a particular fame and popularity or something that you do need to achieve which does simply means that
there are things which we cant really that able to determine on what a person does have in mind.So it does vary when it comes into this situation but
in overall money would be the primary target on this one.

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Money doesn't defines my own success, being able to accomplish my goals is what I called a success, I can have all money earned through inheritance and decide to never pursue any dream, that's a whacked life, your life will get boring so quickly, everyone has their own meaning of being successful this is mine.

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From the topic of the OP I took only two things out of the three things he mentioned. I took only money and fame because money and fame are the achievement of a person therefore, there is no need to add achievement in the list again. Achievement covers everything other things.

I believe MONEY define one's success. OP please can you tell me the world poorest person? No. But you can tell me the world richest person so money define a success of a man. Do you or have you heard famous person that is very poor? No. All famous people have money. Money determine the other achievement of man.

And also there is different between a rich man and a wealthy man. See the difference. A rich man has money but he or she still work to maintain the money he or she spends daily. She or he cannot stay at home to spend the money because the money they have in their possession will be exhausted so they have to work to maintain their rich. While a wealthy man stays at home and spend his or MONEY without going to work. He would not go to work for weeks or months yet there still money for him to spend but a rich man can not.

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I think if I were to rate success personally, I'd say I define success by what I've achieved. People get to relate with you in the things you've been able to achieve and that's what makes you valued.
Take a situation of an innovator for instance, let's say Thomas Edison, the creator of the light bulb, even in his absence, his innovation is still used. That's success, some other person may be rich and famous

Like one of the posters correctly stated, success is actually defined by what one desires at the moment. Also, since there's no age limit to stop being successful, people push further to gather more.

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Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on September 19, 2022, 11:48:52 AM

Success for me is not just about money and fame, it's more about personal achievements and relationships. success in keeping the household in harmony, success in making employees feel at home, success in educating children, and many more are forms of success for me. as you mentioned that many rich people have broken families or the person is corrupt, that is a form of failure in my opinion.

it is true, the definition of success will be different for each individual. because everyone has a different point of view about the true meaning of success. but sometimes the definition of success has the same characteristics for everyone, namely when someone achieves the goals that have been dreamed of and can live comfortably and happily. and success can be a simple thing. as long as we can be grateful for what we have.

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on September 14, 2022, 07:29:15 PM

~ Take Bill Gates for example.
Bill Gates defines success as Happiness. he does not measure success based on the money he has earned. Instead, he measures every achievement by his own happiness. isn't that simple? yeah it's simple. because a successful life is happy. that is when we can feel happy even though it's in ordinary moments and in ordinary conditions.

Well, if you have 110 billion USD and you are the fifth-richest person in the world, you can probably say(and think) that money is not what you need, you need happiness.

But for us, regular folks, it's mostly money what we need to be happy. I'm not saying all rich people are happy. Far from it. But if you have no money, it's hard to feel happy, especially when you have kids that want to eat. You can shoot some heroin into your veins, or drink alcohol with your friends, losers like yourself, and feel happy, but I don't think you can be called successful in that case.

I agree with this. I forgot that the definition of success will be different when viewed from a different perspective. you are right, rich people maybe they don't think about money. because they already have a lot of money so they don't worry about lack of money. I forgot about that. that the standard of living also plays a role in this.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on September 19, 2022, 11:12:57 PM

How many people on this earth then that number is the definition of success. Success is very broad to be interpreted and each interpretation is different from one another.
It's not how rich or how famous a person is, but in my opinion when the soul's needs are met, that's where success lies. Money is only a medium of exchange that can bring success and can also bring failure and even destruction for someone.

Everyone does have a definition of success and sometimes success is identified with how rich you are or about money,
things like that for me are misguided because as you say that success is very broad which is not all about money,
We certainly need to cultivate this mindset

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on September 14, 2022, 07:29:15 PM

~ Take Bill Gates for example.
Bill Gates defines success as Happiness. he does not measure success based on the money he has earned. Instead, he measures every achievement by his own happiness. isn't that simple? yeah it's simple. because a successful life is happy. that is when we can feel happy even though it's in ordinary moments and in ordinary conditions.

Well, if you have 110 billion USD and you are the fifth-richest person in the world, you can probably say(and think) that money is not what you need, you need happiness.

But for us, regular folks, it's mostly money what we need to be happy. I'm not saying all rich people are happy. Far from it. But if you have no money, it's hard to feel happy, especially when you have kids that want to eat. You can shoot some heroin into your veins, or drink alcohol with your friends, losers like yourself, and feel happy, but I don't think you can be called successful in that case.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 08, 2022, 12:54:42 AM

Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone.

Yes, they are different, but the goals and paths are different. Life is about choices. With each decision, you build your path and define what kind of person you want to be. If you choose money, you will be rich. But sometimes being rich also means that life is no longer a challenge for you. You will have all the time in the world to do anything you can imagine. However, I believe that achievement hints at something much different than simple money or fame. that's my view

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