Topic: What do you think about this? (Read 842 times)

Gambling is never been bad and just like what been said that as long you dont make yourself get addicted to it then you should be fine but we know that engaging on it actively could really give out that kind of

habit which might mold on to be for you to be an addicted one, this is why we should really be careful and be wary with our actions whether we are slowly trying to be addicted or still in path just because you do

really like gambling that much as your past time.There's no way that we could be able to determine but only yourself on what you do view about your current gambling.
Decisions made outright are depending on someones ,if he do stop and quit up then its his choice basing up on the situation OP stated.

In my opinion gambling is only good as long as it is used only as a purpose of entertainment and safe as long as it does not become an addiction. So from this concept, gambling can never be the main way of living for people. However, I would never prefer that someone depend on gambling for their livelihood.And since gambling depends on luck, there is no need for hard work and without hard work people never see the face of success, and those who get it by luck do not take time to lose it.
I mainly do sports batting and it's just to feed my entertainment.  I don't want to describe it from a religious point of view because it is not viewed favorably by most religious people.

Yes and the pastor know this already, that is why he came up with his own ministry first. He get money there to be able to bet and he luckily win huge after many attempts. Gambling is a form of entertainment to cure away our stress but what if our problem is money? I don't think playing a gambling can solve it but it will only make our stress more intense.

Trading is better than in gambling in terms of earning a profit but I don't advice newbies to trade immediately. They must learn it first and then practice. They also need to find a reliable source of income because trading is a high risk activity close to gambling. It may or may not provide us a daily income that we need to live a normal life.

although I am not a member of a devout congregation, I really hate religious leaders who are hypocrites, they forbid their people not to gamble - whore - steal - commit fraud but behind the scenes, many of them still do that. religious leaders are the people most often inspired by the followers of that religion, if they do bad things then the mentality and morals of their followers will be damaged and they could turn into atheists.

First of, I know your first statement is opinionated, but it's just funny how you portrayed gambling as this "life-changer" it's a life-changer all right, for the worse that is.

As for your questions:
1. Do Church Leaders (priests, etc.) gamble?: I think so. But I couldn't confirm, there's a good amount of them that definitely succumb to these worldly pleasures either for the entertainment or the promise of greater money, if it's the latter then they're shit out of luck.
2.  Is it right for religious leaders to gamble?: I don't think so, especially if they took vow of abstinence and celibacies as part of their priesthood, but if they were gonna gamble anyway, the question of whether it is righteous to gamble or not is just going to fly over their heads.
3. What are the ethical and moral implications of gambling??: Not going to be the right person to ask about it, as some people have pointed out, since that just makes us judges of the people who're supposed to judge us which is a little weird and counterintuitive, in any case, I think they can absolve themselves of the "crimes" they committed, or if they couldn't worse that could happen to them is to have them stripped of their priesthood and the benefits that entails being a priest. As for the ethical implications of this, we all know well that gambling isn't something that came from a noble background, the very fact that we're discussing whether it's good or not to gamble sets that point in stone already. So you're basically just asking us questions you know the answers for already. But hey, I don't discriminate.

Each religion indeed has a different interpretation for every aspect of our lives, of which when it comes to Christianity and most especially the position of a "pastorship", those set of people are always given the most regard, and as such acts as a role model to a multitude of congregations.
So for me, I stand to say that if truly that Ugandan man was a real pastor truly called by God, winning such a huge sum of money was an avenue for him to expand his ministry to most nooks and crannies of his city. But since he was a fake man of God that's why when money got involved, he unveiled his true colour by shutting down his ministry.

Note: The power of gambling

In life we all have choices regardless of your culture or religion. I dont see gambling as a sin. It only becomes a sin when you don't gamble responsibly.
Yes, religious leaders gamble most often. Gambling does not stop them from preaching the gospel. Some gamble secretly while some gamble openly.

I dont think is a good idea for religious leaders to gamble because it does not show a good example to the young once.

It is immoral for religious leaders to gamble as it show bad examples to the followers.

In today's world, many people are stressed every day, but that doesn't mean it's the norm. I don't know if this is true or not, but I have heard that in the United States a huge number of people use antidepressants and other drugs that allow them to live without stress. But I don't think gambling can relieve stress.

But indeed on the other hand we also cannot completely blame the religious leaders here, because of course these are only a small part of them and can be said to be individuals who smear but religion is not wrong about that.
This was his will and he has now quit his religion so it is between him and his god. We also cannot fully judge because we are also not saints, although it is very regrettable that something like this happens.

Gambling will not give you money immediately and but definitely.My Suggestion is don’t see the gambling as life source,instead you can do the gambling to get away from your stress.So you can away from stress from the gambling by playing liked game for certain period of time.Instead you can use the trading and special on day trading.Most of the day traders do the trading with little amount as profit.They continue the process till the desired profit reaches for the week.

Gambling was the more fun based game because of usually using the real money.The excitement based on the real money will not be satisfied by anything in the world.This is the main reason of people involved in the cock betting on the road site.Even you can get the excitement in the trading as compared to the gambling.Gambling excitement is far better then the excitement we get from the trading profit of crypto currency.

The issue is that religion is not decisive or absolute for those who practice it or claim to be followers of any religion. The commandments in any religion are there, they are a guide to follow, but...! well says a saying; "we see faces but not hearts".

That is to say, individuals fail and being a pastor does not give them immunity to commit "sins", he would say that if he were to bet that someone is a good pastor, the probability for this to happen would be 50%.

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^{This is a "strange" topic for gambling, I think it's a discussion from another board.}

The religious leader was brave enough to reveal the reason why he closed his ministry because it meant he was not ashamed of what he was doing, even though it is not a rule, but almost all of us know that in many religions gambling is always identified with something bad and forbidden, so when a religious leader does it, it is certain he was going to do it in secret because he didn't want to damage his reputation as a religious leader, but the priest gave his reasons openly.
A religious leader should not do gambling because maybe his time will run out for this activity and if he doesn't control himself he will get stuck in addiction and endanger his ministry so that his congregation will be shaken by the fact that their religious leader is not a good example to emulate, but did this story really happen? I mean if it is true maybe the congregation can investigate whether the religious leader used personal money or ministry money, which could be categorized as misappropriation because I'm doubted that this was the first time he gambled and immediately produced a big win

If he was an ordinary man, he could live the life he wants after the winning, I totally agree with this. But he was a pastor. He was living from other people's money before he won, probably telling them that gambling is a sin and other hypocritical stuff. I think what he should have done was giving away all the money to his parishioners, and only then leaving, if he wanted to leave the church. Since he just left, it makes him someone who walked away without paying his creditors, in my eyes.

There are numerous religions, each with its own set of characteristics. The same is true of their attitude toward gambling. The decision of the pastor to close his own religious ministry may not be the career he wants to pursue if money is not a concern. After winning a handful of cash, the pastor can now live the life he wants. My personal opinion is that gambling within certain limits is not unethical or immoral. If this is not the case, then I find individuals that smoke cigarettes in crowded public areas to be more immoral and unethical because they are disseminating the harmful smoke.

What are the correlation between being a clergy and a gambler, they are two different things, possibly he has been gambling with the church money over time unknowingly to members, being a clergy, you must not be seen gambling even though you were once a gambler, once you have accepted this call of faith to be a clergy them the conditions attached is to stay away from some common lifestyle and you will get restricted to them, part of which is gambling, just as you can't see a king in the casino house gambling so it is except of them being a clergy.

Asking a question like  ' Do religious leaders gamble?' will want to make us stand as judge and could lead to quick condemnation of another sake of the level of spiritual preference the have. In my own opinion religion and way of life has two opposite route. People could be religions and still stick to their passion. The idea is to be disciplined in whatever we do be it a religious leader or a religious follower. A religious person irrespective of status can go about their gambling activities provided they can be disciplined.

I believe why most religious group preach against gambling is because the fear it could become addictive and cause a problem to their doctrine, teachings and what the uphold at the same time integrity of the gambler. Some do it out of ignorance maybe because it is a norm for other religion to kick against it so some other random religion might want to join suit. For me passion shouldn't interfere with religion has long as  it can be managed and controlled.

Yes, what @Joddy.Drummer said is the impact of what religious leaders did by playing gambling, and I agree with that, the stigma that circulates is negative thinking towards religious leaders, because basically religious leaders are average people who are wise and can solving problems peacefully and guiding people to the right path, I personally have never heard until today that religious leaders justify gambling. Apart from that he is also a human being, religious leaders should have more understanding about behavior and actions.

Sorry, maybe I feel quite disappointed because maybe I have faith in what religious leaders teach and I always follow what they do in social and business according to what they prohibit and allow, I am very disappointed about this.

Even though in Islam, gambling is prohibited, when there is a word for this prohibition, everyone should be able to understand. But we are only humans who cannot escape any temptation, including the temptation to play gambling. And once we can feel the fun of gambling, we will do it repeatedly even if we have to lose, and that's okay too. And indeed, gambling has succeeded in getting many people to share in the fun so that whatever their status in society, they can forget about it because there is a goal to get a lot of money from gambling.

No priests or church administrators have the sole motive of obtaining donations for gambling or even enriching themselves.
So far I have never seen a pastor or church administrator who has more wealth and as long as you know they have income that is given by their followers to be able to fulfill their lives.
Initially the priest must have had noble goals and wanted to serve as a priest or religious leader, but because of the opportunity to be able to get rich, he forgot about his noble goals and promises as a priest, so he dared to make bets just to get rich.
No one can stand still when faced with the opportunity to become rich.
There are many examples of people out there who are blinded by money and this is human nature.

The problem is that when something like this is exposed to the outside world, not all but it is clear that the person concerned will be tarnished because it will be considered as damaging the image of a saint.
Even though I don't really deserve to say that, there will be a different stigma when someone who has a high position in religion does something like this and an ordinary person does it.
Ordinary people who do this seem understandable, but when religious leaders do the same thing, it will clearly be different in interpretation, even though they are also ordinary people who have passions and emotions.