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March 25, 2023, 09:53:28 AM
#67
It will not be easy to make a living through gambling because many people have tried it but failed halfway.

If someone is a religious leader, he is not allowed to gamble because religion forbids someone from gambling. But when greed comes to that person, anything can happen, including the religious leader who changes his attitude by closing his ministry. And it depends on his confidence not to play gambling like other people.
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March 25, 2023, 05:10:32 AM
#66
The fact remains that every man needs money and craves for a better life, regardless of whether he is a servant of God or not.

When people talk about servant of God, it makes me feel as though we want them to be nonhuman, they're just like us.

Being a servant of God doesn't mean you it's forbidden to dream of a better life, they deserve all the good things we all strive to achieve.

This Pastor who left his ministry for such a big amount of money, may have a good reason for doing so, but let's not jump right to conclusions.

There are many other pastors like him that do evil things to make money, if all this man did was gamble I don't see anything wrong here, and if it's wrong may God forgive us all.
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March 25, 2023, 05:00:23 AM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet
From all indication that tells you that the so-called pastor didn't receive a divine call to establish his ministry or church for propagation of the gospel rather his ministry was opened to purposely for financial rewards, of course after hitting a jackpot of 100million shillings he closed down his church, in the first place a pastor shouldn't involve in gambling because he will often preach against that on the pulpit then why indulging in something that is a sin? of course the bible prophecy is coming to past as regards many fake pastors and prophets will mislead alot of people.
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March 25, 2023, 04:46:00 AM
#64
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
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From what I see, that Ugandan pastor, David Ochieng, wasn't much of a religious person. Since he has shut down his church right after winning a big amount of money, it is obvious that the church was a source of money for him, and nothing else.

Whether religious leaders should gamble or not, it depends on their religion. If they preach about gambling being a sin, then maybe they shouldn't. But that's in theory. In reality it is much more complicated than that.
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March 25, 2023, 04:33:25 AM
#63
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

Pastors who gamble are not men of God. A real man of God would never get close to gambling because gambling is a sin. Some religions see nothing wrong with gambling, but the majority of them do.

If he can also quit his ministry because he won a lot of money, it indicates that he started that ministry to earn some money, just like many pastors in churches today who are mostly fake, and the fastest way to earn money is through religion, deceiving people by using God's name and corrupting their minds.

Most pastors chant the name of God for their own selfish gain, brainwashing people into fearing God, and exchanging money and fortune for their own selfish gain.
For me, it's challenging to discern if a gambling pastor is truly a servant of God or not. We're all humans at the end of the day, with imperfections and enticements. Scripture doesn't expressly forbid gambling, but it cautions against the love of money, often at the heart of the gamble. Addiction to gambling is a genuine concern, causing financial disaster and graver consequences, leading many spiritual leaders to counsel against it.

Concerning pastors leaving their ministry after hitting it big, it boils down to personal conviction. Some might feel that a windfall clashes with their faith or could incite a conflict of interest. Others may persist in their ministry and give a slice of their winnings to philanthropic pursuits. Ultimately, the choice lies with the person.
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March 25, 2023, 04:31:36 AM
#62
Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

If this story you provide is true then I'm sorry to disappoint you that the pastor in question is not genuine.

I'm sure the reason he opened his own ministry in the first place is to make money through like from his members offering and also their tithes, not because of the messages that he can deliver to the people.
And right now in our society we have so many people like this disguising themselves as Many of God or pastor but in reality all they want is the goodies that comes with that title, and they have managed to put doubts in the mind of those that are believers of the religion.
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March 25, 2023, 04:20:28 AM
#61
Pastors should no longer think about worldly matters and focus on providing services to the people only. But if a priest gambles because he wants to earn a lot of money, it is a mistake because why should he gamble? Isn't that forbidden in religion? Maybe there needs to be a discussion between the priest and the people and the people involved in that place so they can find out why the priest is gambling.

But if someone wants to make a living from gambling, they need to think about it often because it is not easy or even impossible, especially if they don't have the skills and abilities to bet. Say they want to make a living from sports betting but can't analyze and find valid info. Can they win? Certainly not.
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March 25, 2023, 03:00:15 AM
#60
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

Pastors who gamble are not men of God. A real man of God would never get close to gambling because gambling is a sin. Some religions see nothing wrong with gambling, but the majority of them do.

If he can also quit his ministry because he won a lot of money, it indicates that he started that ministry to earn some money, just like many pastors in churches today who are mostly fake, and the fastest way to earn money is through religion, deceiving people by using God's name and corrupting their minds.

Most pastors chant the name of God for their own selfish gain, brainwashing people into fearing God, and exchanging money and fortune for their own selfish gain.
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March 25, 2023, 02:55:30 AM
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That is freedom because no one can judge what they are doing by playing gambling, but behind all that it is certainly unethical if the opening religion does it just for the sake of wanting to win bigger and of course, the statement of the sermon will be slightly contradictory while the opening religion others who are against gambling will be a little different and they are pressing in a more straight forward direction.

I also won't blame their approach, they still have the freedom to do so if we as a people follow them and think again in the context that was discussed.

We must realize that gambling cannot be avoided now that it has become a daily game in society.
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March 25, 2023, 01:19:15 AM
#58
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet
gambling for me is freedom for everyone who wants to do it and there are no restrictions on who can gamble there. there are so many religious leaders who gamble in different countries and it's not even surprising that people know about it.
religious leaders who gamble but when preaching say bad things about gambling, for me it is a natural thing when a leader tries to give good advice to his followers to avoid gambling, it is not hypocrisy but only leads to a better path even though the leader does bad stuff.

and you need to know that everyone is free to do whatever they want, even if it is gambling, regardless of whether he is a religious leader or just an ordinary citizen.
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March 25, 2023, 01:05:10 AM
#57
In Catholic, it is not considered sinful unless the indulgence can no longer be controlled. I learned a preach that says people should not be too attach  in earthly things and I believe that that involves gambling.

Also, I don't think that people can make a living through gambling alone. It can be a past time or a leisure but to make a living through it, I think it would take more dedication and addiction. Some gets rich with gambling too but it's because they can afford.
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March 25, 2023, 12:54:17 AM
#56
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

Gambling is just that, anyone can gamble, now even if he is a pastor of a church if he even thinks about gambling it is his choice. In something like that, we can only see a lesson there.

And the lesson that I see is that the pastor seems to have made the holding of the church milky, and when he had the opportunity to have a lot of money, he was blinded by the money, he became greedy so even his responsibility in a religious group was he was able to surrender and abandon its members.
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March 24, 2023, 08:44:11 PM
#55
The right and wrong traditional dilemma. We don't even know how much the pastor gambled to win that amount. There are many ways now to make a $1 bet become a million. i.e. parlays and promotional events by gambling sites. Casinos do have slots that also have a jackpot feature. As long as a person didn't abuse the budget, I guess he is doing fine.
Now, if that money is neither yours nor a responsible way then it makes it look bad.
I don't commend this kind of acts by pastors or priests because they must be someone to look up to and to follow, but they are also humans who will have the desire to get out of their unsatisfactory lives so they try the easiest way available so I won't judge them either.
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March 24, 2023, 08:33:15 PM
#54
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

I'm not sure of your point, but tell me, do you know of a specific gambling strategy that guarantees something? Is there even one? I know that so many lives have changed because of gambling, 99% for the worse, 1% for the better.

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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

If I'm not mistaken, Christians don't treat gambling as a sin. I'm not sure, though, if there is a particular Christian sect that treats gambling otherwise. Muslims, however, consider gambling as haram. However, there are still casinos in some Muslim countries.
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March 24, 2023, 08:00:20 PM
#53
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

I never doubted that gambling could change someone's life, just as I don't doubt that playing the lottery can change someone's life.

What I doubt is that gambling or lottery can change anyone's life, I doubt that gambling can change many people's life, I doubt that gambling can change someone's life just because he wants it so much that.

There will always be a few people making a lot of money from gambling, while there will always be a lot of other people losing a lot of money from gambling.

In the middle of this, there are the people who are prudent, who play with caution in order to become one of the people who will one day win a lot of money, but without deluding themselves so much that they become one of those who will lose a lot of money. .

Which of these people would you rather be?
What would you rather believe?
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March 24, 2023, 06:46:20 PM
#52
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.
No one can ever manage their life well based on gambling. I have seen people who have tried to make a living out of gambling have had a very bad life. Maybe gambling will make you profit for some time but most of the time you will lose money. So this gambling game I never consider fit to lead life.
Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
In answer to your question I mean gambling is prohibited for every religion. All these issues are discussed especially from the religious office. If the religious leaders who scrutinize these matters the most are the ones who favor gambling, it is completely anti-religious. Because everyone respects and loves religious leaders. Whenever people love a religious leader, that religious leader should live the love of every people. So I think religious leaders should always keep themselves safe from gambling.
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March 24, 2023, 06:13:09 PM
#51
When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

Religion is a concept between the heart of people and the creator. The clergy can only give advice on using certain methods. That is, they explain and describe the rituals. However, a good guide should also be on the way, because we cannot rely on a directions given to us by someone who is not on the way. Besides, I don't think gambling can be a livelihood. And I think it wouldn't be right for those who trust a clergyman to gamble. Fortunately, I deleted all brokerage firms from my life a long time ago. I am comfortable with this.
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March 24, 2023, 06:12:59 PM
#50
You should read more carefully the news bro, it wasn't an extra mean to feed his family because he just closed his church after having made his big win of 100m NGN, Mate2237 has even opened a thread about that specific matter. In addition he won his bet thanks to a fixed game which I don't think is a moral thing approved by any church or religion. I don't know why they needed his money but I guess it was to bribe the players actually.
I can't find a news source like your statement, can you show the news source that you found because he deliberately closed the church after getting a gambling win and according to the news source from the article above that he also neglected the congregation who wanted to worship on Sunday, so his behavior did not reflect a leader religion and he did what he called strict prohibitions in religion.
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March 24, 2023, 06:08:54 PM
#49
Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet
Am a Muslim and I will be speaking for my religion alone, in my religion gambling is wrong, either you are a religion leader or not gambling is generally wrong, but to me honest with you, some religion leaders in my country do gamble because I know few of them that do gamble, actually you won't know they do gamble because they gamble only online, you will never see then visiting gambling house, some of them that knows that am a gambler do ask me for bet code, because they know I will never expose there secrets.
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March 24, 2023, 05:59:15 PM
#48
Deciding whether gambling is right or wrong for them is subjective. For non-believer to their religion will find this news as normal event because the Pastor is living on Uganda which we all know that is very hard to earn money but this is different if you are the one with same religion with them because Pastors are role model for holiness in their religion.

I will never blame the Pastor on doing gambling to earn more for his own future. Probably his earnings through his ministry is not sufficient for his daily needs especially if he has a family to feed.
You should read more carefully the news bro, it wasn't an extra mean to feed his family because he just closed his church after having made his big win of 100m NGN, Mate2237 has even opened a thread about that specific matter. In addition he won his bet thanks to a fixed game which I don't think is a moral thing approved by any church or religion. I don't know why they needed his money but I guess it was to bribe the players actually.
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