Topic: What do you think about this? - page 7. (Read 839 times)

We usually hear good stories about gambling that gambling and betting is changing people's fortune, while actually, it is not. Most of the gamblers are losing their money in gambling. Yes, there are few who are lucky to make fortune out of it and the media is projecting them.
People get inspired by such stories and they ask a question like if they can leave the hard jobs and if gambling can fulfill their day to day expenses.



Well, i would say that everyone gambles including religious persons and scholars. Also, why do we point only to these religious people when the religion is applied on every person including you and me  

Gambling can ruin a person's reputation especially if he is a religious teacher or leader because we all know that gambling is against religious belief and teachings. I agree that religious leaders should stand as role models so their followers and congregation will follow in their footsteps. That pastor has been selfish but maybe he has different plan for his own life but he has done his exit irresponsibly. In the first place, he should not accepted the responsibility of being a pastor if it is against his will.

In my opinion, the issue of gambling and religion is a complex one that requires a nuanced approach. While some religious teachings condemn gambling, others may view it as a personal choice that is not necessarily sinful. As for religious leaders, I believe that they are just like any other human beings and may also engage in gambling activities. They are not saints.

and to add, if these leaders will play publicly. their reputation for sure will go down hard. gambling is good if you know how to handle yourself. but if not, this can devastate your life, even lose your loved ones in the process.
also, on the note about religious leaders who are into gambling. they are deem to be the role models, for sure, you will question your faith if you are seeing your pastor or priest betting publicly. but more then likely, there are a lot of these leaders who are discreetly into gambling activities.

Our definition whether if gambling is good or bad usually depends on how we deal with its risk. Not everyone could be lucky in gambling so we can't say that it's good for everyone. Gambling was originally made to entertain people so we can't say that it's bad. We could either fail or succeed in gambling depending on our luck and fate.
Anyone could gamble regardless of their beliefs or religious sector. There are lots of religious leaders that gamble and it will only ruin their image if they will play abusively without control.

I also often hear about this question. There are still doubts and ignorance about gambling. And when someone asks a question like that, basically he also doesn't have strong and good management in gambling activities. So this will actually have a bad impact. especially of course those who ask questions like this just want to focus and know about how much they can get from gambling, but they forget one thing that is very crucial, namely loss probabilities. We already understand very well how dangerous gambling is, in fact many people have lost big because of gambling, because they don't understand how to play and manage money and risks. So this makes gambling addiction which is very bad for his life and finances.

I want to make a long story short based on what you are asking.It is simple,out of 100.000 million people that I am taking an example as gamblers the people who manage to hit a life changing win are very few like 5.000 or less in that 100.000 million and that in percentage my friend is very little.The people who made such life changing winnings have a ton of luck by their side and 0 skill as big wins no matter how skillful you are in sport bet rarely I have seen someone with his skill to win a ticket with 100.000 or more as an odd,while in slot machines if the game decides to favor you then the life changing event is inevitable,you only have to be bold enough to play with a reasonably high bet otherwise it is not a life changing event.

I think that all people gamble,religious and non religious as this is deep in our roots and nature,we want to become rich quick and this why very few make it in claiming and achieving a life changing bet.

I also agree with you and I also don't really engage in conversations that argue about the possibility of people loving a nice and decent lives through gambling because I've heard and seen people who live very comfortably off gambling which is a prove that gambling isn't really bad after all.
To me gamble isn't bad and as a Christian, I haven't read or heard of any place in the bible where is was or it's a sin to gamble and I don't think there is any law that restrains clergymen from gambling provided they do so responsibly.
I read the news and I couldn't stop laughing at the point when the pastor had to close down his church and it just made me remember a saying that if you want to see the truth character of a man, give him money and power

I created a new thread on this before coming across this thread here, though mine is with a different context and discussion...

From what I know and have read in the bible, it is actually a sin for religious leaders to gamble, but some of them still do it anyway, I've come across several pastors who are into sports betting, its a shameful thing but it is what the world have turned into, and for this Ugandan pastor, i would say that what he did was the extreme, or height of it all, my pity is with the members that must have served and respected him for several years as a man of genuine man of God, but all the same, it is all for our learning.

There are some religious leaders that gambles, even implement it to their community in disguise of fund colletion.


It is the right of a religious leader to gamble especially if gambling is legal in their country.  But it is morally wrong if the religious leader is telling their followers that gambling is bad and should be avoided.



In Christian faith, many believe that gambling puts a person in distance from God.  Since it was stated by the founder of the faith Jesus that no one can serve two master at the same time, many followers concluded that when a person is gambling he choses money over God(which I think is moot).  And another thing is on 1 Timothy 6:9-10

So basically in a Christain's belief, engaging in gambling activities is immoral but I wonder how they come up with such idea when during their fund raising and celebration, they often sell tickets for raffle or lottery. 

It depends on the religion in question, while there are quite a few that forbid gambling there are others that are more open about it and just criticize those which cannot control themselves, however even if this pastor was doing something that supposedly was forbidden, it is not rare to find many hypocrites that preach one thing and then they do another, so do not worry too much about it as there will always be people like that which are not real believers.

Well,of course they can play gambling.Just imagine how many people around the world do it but they just don't advertise it and it doesn't get into the press.Of course,they should set an example for believers and not succumb to temptation but unfortunately there are also negative cases that the public learns about from a news source.

I have read up somewhere or someone do make out some clarification that the amount is just too small or a thousand dollars only and not involving millions which does mean that it isnt really that something big

for him to quit up and close their church.Well, its his decision to make and its true that if he wasnt been able to hit up some wins then for sure he would continue on preaching out those fake God words.

You cant really be able to tell on whats deep inside and intents of a certain person until he do make out some actions which neither we couldnt really either believe
that they have done it.

First of all, I'm not sure this story is true. even if so, as a religious leader actions like this cannot be justified. Talking about gambling, in fact gambling can be played by anyone, regardless of position, title, or profession. everyone can enjoy it, playing only for fun, relaxing himself with the game he likes.

Referring to this post, there will be various responses or comments from us and the community. the response will vary greatly. depending on one's viewpoint. because if we talk from the point of view of belief, things like this one hobby are part that is not allowed, we can refer to attitudes and morals. however, in the modern era like today. Gambling is not something that is taboo like in the past, even gambling is now a fun part of entertainment in the motripolitan era. therefore, gambling in many countries has been legalized. However, the negative impact inherent in the eyes of the wider community does not just disappear.

Well, as ordinary people, these religious leaders still like worldly things. To be honest, we can't really blame him, because he really understands what he's doing himself. it's just that, we can't demand much from what he does and his profession. it indicates, that humans are very easily tempted by things that are the pleasures of the world. well, because the religious leader has closed his ministry. it is better, because what he does is contrary to what he understands and teaches.

I have not seen any religion that outrightly bans or condemn football and as a matter of ethics, there have been football tournament arranged in the religious house and this is no exceotion to any religion, as a matter of fact some religious leader discussed football and if their bet on them I don't know how the member or the public will judge such case.

This isn't surprising at all because pastors are more loose when it comes to rules imposed by the Church. They don't practice celibacy, often divorce their wives, have illegitimate children and so on.
The fact that he gambled and decided to live a different life only shows that being a priest wasn't the way of life he always wanted, but instead it was the easy way for him. He wanted respect so he became a religious leader, but now he can buy respect. He doesn't need to be humble. I'm not religious myself so for me it's easy to understand that many people who hide behind religion are in fact shallow.  

Answering the question you asked is clearly not going to be easy, no, I mean there are still many religious leaders who still adhere to what they say and what they do. And when a religious leader does something contrary to what he says, we can't punish them all for doing the same thing right?
When it comes from religious beliefs, it comes back to them personally, I personally cannot judge them, because that is the relationship between their beliefs and themselves. But if I see it in plain view, that shouldn't have happened, because taking action contrary to what he said is something that is not good, especially if he is a religious leader.

I don't mind if a religious leader gamble or not, what I am more critical is the questions

Is it right to create a church to feed your family? 

Is it right to fool people for religious donations to meet your families need?

Is it right to make fake prophesies just to make the religious follower believe that the person is a true messenger of God?

That is way worst than asking people whether gambling is ethical for a religious leader or not.  After all the person involved is a fake.

Previously there was a thread that had the topic of being able to make a living from gambling.
But it's okay if you don't know it yet and want to see lots of answers to that question.
It is difficult for someone to make a living from gambling because by gambling someone also has the opportunity to lose and even lose some money so the chance to make a living from gambling is only 30% and the remaining 70% is the chance for the gambler to lose most of his money.
All religions clearly prohibit gambling and all religious leaders will order all adherents of that religion to stay away from gambling.
About a priest who won a gambling like an impossible story but no one knows the certainty of the story and indeed someone can violate what has become forbidden if they are faced with a large amount of money.

But if he didn't win I think he wouldn't actually quit and would still continue to preach the word and gamble in hiding. He lives a double life. Now that he is a millionaire, he wants to give up the other lives he lived.

I couldn't really tell whether what he is doing is ethical or not. Believe it or not, he acts accordingly in order to live in a way he knows. Working as a pastor I guess is much better than being part of a looting gang. If he didn't work as a pastor, he might not win millions as well.