Topic: What do you think about this? - page 5. (Read 839 times)

People would definitely follow on whats up into their minds and would really be exchanging out for whatever they are currently dealing with even on what position they do have as long they would really be able to focus

out on something just like gambling since they do have the money on using on then for sure they would really be sticking with that and this is where these decisions do really make up.We dont have any choice because
this is where people do make out their decisions and its impossible that they wont really that aware on what they are doing. Just let them be on what are the things that they would gonna do.
They arent that small or children who arent on their minds on making non worth actions.Its impossible that they dont know on what are the things that could possibly happen.

Pastors should not and cannot gamble even if they want to because its the people's donation that sustains them and the congregation will not like it it will appear that they are the ones encouraging and sustaining his gambling activity,
He will either remain in the ministry or leave the ministry, the story you provided is very sad because he just manipulated and deceive his members into thinking that they have the right Pastor to follow.
Some religious leaders are good in hiding their real intention so check if your pastor is a wolf cloth in sheep's clothing.

We see professional gamblers doing well but if you ask me, I do not think that being a professional gambler or gambling being the main source of income is for everyone. There are just special people who can control their gambling habits and make money from it. I would not advice anyone to consider gambling as a main source of income, but I would not go against them if they wanted to try. Maybe they could make it, nobody knows.


Not all religious groups are for good anyway so I will not be surprised if we saw pastors gambling or doing illegal stuff and going against their own teachings.

Well, it depends on how you think about that, is it real? is it possible? are there really people who make living from gambling?

Not because those people who make a living from gambling, really say that thing,  doesn't mean they always win at their gambling activity. It's just that they were able to maintain those good and consistent winnings to support their living.

Up to you to believe or not as honestly, it doesn't even matter to know if that's true. We just focus and mind our own business.

Addiction is one thing, and going against your own religion seems to be more of addiction to me. Church leaders are a role model to their followers, and if they can’t live what they are preaching then its better for them to stop doing it and stop fooling people. Winning the lottery is a big thing and with that money you can use that to make your church bigger but that guy choses a different path and I hope his followers will not follow him anymore.

Yeah, the real answer will be are you willing to stop gambling? given these reasons are we going to continue to gamble or not. There is no religion on earth that allows drug dealing also people who took drugs needed to be jail and have some rehab. It is still based on your decision whether you should stop or you will follow yourself and prove to them you will not be addicted.

You cant really tell that everyone would be having that kind of same perspective and reaction whenever they do see a church leader whose really get involved into these kind of activities considering if he do preach out
literally contrary with this activity then it would really just be giving out that bad impression and criticism on what he had done.Of course for  those person or church leaders then they wont really be that dumb on not to mind on what are people would be thinking up in this regard.This is why they would really be deciding on quitting or flocking away just because they do already know on what most people would really be doing.
For me it isnt really that a major issue since it isnt something that connects with immoral things on where these leaders do usually get involved on.

Preacher are also human too, where greed and emotion are still there despite of their chosen field. Having your own church seems to become more of a business now where you collect money from your followers. Winning the jackpot can be a life changing, and you cannot blame him for closing his own church after winning the jackpot, I’m just wondering where he is now and what is his new business.

Yes, they don't affect you, me, but they do affect the immature minds of teenagers and people who tend to believe everything, especially people who hold public office, such as police officers, pastors, politicians, etc. The more such people mislead the population, the sillier the population will become, which is the road to bank slavery, poverty, and uneducation.

Not only that most pastors and preachers often use the bible verses in order to get donations from people.  They often preaches about giving and tithes so that they can easily collect funds to support their living.  I am not against such teachings if the religious leader is really sincere and he has really has the calling of God to be His messenger.  Unlike the guy who is stated in this thread.  That he create a religious group in order to support his living and is not actually has the calling.  This guy action is obviously a fraud.  I wonder if there is a law that can be use to sue this person and penalized him of his evil deeds.

It is a matter of your moral compass. I've seen a lot of religious folks engage in a lot of immoral activities and still attend church regularly. They preach about the teachings of God and does it so in a very condescending manner, as if they are not doing something wrong. Personally, I don't have any problems against these church leaders engaging in these kinds of activities. After all, they don't influence me in any way but those whom they stand up to are the ones that should really think about whether they'll still follow the church leader or not.

^ He is free whatever he wants but because of his position as a religious leader that is difficult to speak even for all religious leaders, it is not uncommon for some individuals who hold religious positions to gamble. They know at the very first place that gambling may conflict with the principles and beliefs that they preach to their congregations. Probably that is the reason the Pastor quit his position because it becomes a conflict with his current position and more worst when people know it.

It is interesting how anyone would react to this news depending on their political and religious beliefs.
Someone who does not believe in anything, would say this is good for the person and nothing wrong happened, while if we keep in mind the religious context, we can talk about temptations and failure to hold to his duties.

But, if you asked me, this story could have ended way worse if that religious leader became addicted to gambling/betting and spent the money of the church completely into those vices. At least, he decided to retire form his service and letting know his community he is not suitable for it, before something worse could happen. 

Well, personally, I just feel he was tempted, but unfortunately, he failed.
He said it that he was not called, but the greed of things of life pushed him to becoming a pastor, I feel that money was God's way of giving him an opportunity to become even stronger in the ministry and hold God even more tighter, but unfortunately, he left God completely to join the world..

One thing that is certain is that he eventually will keep gambling and betting, even more than before since he now has money, and the way the whole money will disappear will shock him, some people never learn, until they are forced to learn the hard way.

As I said in my previous post, that there will be lots of comments or responses from the community. I try to read from page one, until the next page. the answer is very varied. but in fact, gambling will never be separated from human life. from a business standpoint, it is very profitable, from a historical point of view, gambling has been discovered since ancient China.

Referring to the contents of the topic of this thread, whether gambling can be used as a job to make a living. the answer is, it depends. what kind of gambling does someone want to get into, what potential does someone have, insight, skill, knowledge, luck.  all of them become one unit that must be owned by someone who wants to work professionally in gambling. but the question is, are there people who have succeeded in making a living from gambling. the answer is unknown. if the OP wants to try it, go ahead and good luck.

So, let's discuss from the opening side of the religion that is the subject of our discussion. the answer is as I said before. that in fact, gambling at this time is not something that is taboo. even so, in some religious teachings gambling is something that is prohibited, maybe in some other beliefs, gambling is not prohibited but there are rules that explain it that a religious leader cannot do something that does not set a good example for his followers.

Apart from all that, the essence that I got from this thread is. that as a human being, whatever his profession, position, title, even if someone is a religious leader. will never be separated from everything that is fun, or you could say worldly pleasures. yes it makes no difference as we think, that gambling is a hobby.

In addition to the cases above, I have read several media reports that religious leaders are not always right and cannot be used as role models in life from the perspective of their behavior even though they convey God's verses to others, but their mistakes are in personal behavior to be biased and ignore religious prohibitions, Pastor's Case above can be a lesson for all of us that they are also ordinary humans who can change at any time, but unfortunately they have chosen the path of evil because of the influence of gambling addiction to earn money.

This is a sad incident, really, imagine a recognized leader of a religious group was tempted by money and left his members because he won a lot of money gambling. He also ruined his personality and reputation and shamed their God that they believed in.

       Although that's his freedom, but everything we do, whether it's good or bad, we'll pay for it in the last time when we stand before God, that's why the pastor who won the gamble didn't think about it because he was blinded and became wild with money.

People have different opinions on gambling, and when it comes to religious leaders, it can be a more sensitive topic. The pastor also has a different opinion (or his opinion changed after gambling and winning, who knows...) and when he won, he decided to no longer be a pastor and shut down his church. The pastor here made a personal choice, and it might not necessarily reflect the stance of his entire religious community. As for the ethical and moral implications of gambling, it can vary depending on one's beliefs and values. Some might think gambling is morally wrong, others might think that it is fine to gamble as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

this is a subject that can be interpreted in many ways, but in most cases people are right when they tell others to distance themselves from gambling, the reason is simple: few people make money from gambling, most people lose money, sell assets and are admitted to addiction rehabilitation clinics



This attitude of the pastor can be seen in two ways:

1 - maybe the pastor was only a pastor because he needed to earn money and now that he has money he no longer needs to be a pastor to live on donations from believers, I am not here criticizing religion, these are things that we all see every day, we all know that many pastors keep posting videos where they appear doing miracles, maybe the pastor now that he has money is feeling remorseful and decided to stop it

2 - maybe the pastor saw that there are many believers and that as he won money in gambling, then the believers can start copying him and they will lose money, so the pastor decided to close the church for the good of his believers


priests, pastors and all religious leaders are people, they have the right to do whatever they want with their private lives, as long as they don't induce believers to play too

Many people make their living through gambling and that doesn't guarantee that they have finds it a means for total survival on a living because gambling jobs varies from each other while some basically depends on the bet they stake in gambling for sustainance, as in his own case this may be his first of its kind to experience winning a huge amount but leaving the profession he has be doing is not right to be kindid.