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Actually it is a point to find out what forced child to commit such action. Reason is simple, to prevent such action to be repeated. Without talking and investigation the problem, nothing good will come out. There can be various reasons why the kid has stolen money to gamble. From being afraid to ask money directly, to having financial issues. What if the kid is weak, afraid to tell parents he was bullied at school and now he owes money bullies. So he decided to gamble to earn them fast, give money to bullies and later silently return stolen money. What if the situation is like that. Then the problem is not in gambling, but in bullies and the kid have mental issues. And instead of punishing him, he needs to be helped.

That is why I root for talking, discussing, explaining, instead of banning, forbidding, punishing when we talk about parenting and education.
I agree with your argument that if a child has reached the age of 18+ and he no longer asks his parents for money to gamble, but financially he must be free from dependence on all costs from his parents if he wants to gamble, at least he must have his own income so that free from things without restrictions from anyone.

We are discussing the case of a child who has reached the initial stage of gambling addiction, then parents must carry out an investigation that led to his introduction to gambling and parents must remind him not to carry out the same action, unless he is of adult age and has income from his job, if he are still under the age of 18+ so they are still under parental supervision in all their daily activities. So even though he has won millions of dollars in bets, he will spend more than that if his gambling actions are allowed and not stopped immediately.
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Let me imagine that I'm this child father. Being a man, it's going to be a bit harder to put myself in the role of the mother Wink
I'd be angry of course and I'd feel like trust is lost between us because I'd for sure give him the money if he wanted to gamble. I'd probably make him work for it, do some chores, and then I'd let him do whatever he wants with it, so that when he loses it he'll feel the loss of time and effort he put into getting it. That's how children learn - through experience.
What would in case he won? The same. I'd be angry he stole from me, try to teach him about trust and honesty. Then I'd tell him not to blow it on the things he doesn't need and see how he does.
That's the right approach and I would do the same if I were in the position of the mother. Even if he won millions of dollars in the process, stealing is still not a good thing to do. A child learns from his/her environment and maybe he was forced to do this because he saw someone do the same. I would not get mad about the amount because any amount is still stealing and this could be taken as he grows which is not a good thing either.
It's not about the money but what he did, he could have asked for money but chose not to do so. Also, he should be checked if he is a gambling addict because those who are addicted are the only ones who could do such a feat.
It will be a good learning point for the kid if he is disciplined, perhaps grounding him will be enough and see to it that he won't do anything funny inside the house like pursuing to still gamble using the internet.
Now if he won millions, I'd say he should take care of that money and not waste it to gambling more. Investing will be a better idea.
Sorry to say but I think you are wrong when you say or believe that only gambling addicts are prone to stealing money for gambling purposes, if you believe this, then it simply means you don't know for sure what pressure is, and what it can do or lead a person into.

Have you ever been in a situation where arsenal is to play against Manchester united, and you are very convinced that Arsenal will beat  Manchester united, and the odds on this match is very juicy too, immediately, this high desire to bet on that match grows in you, knowing fully well how much you could win, you desire to really bet on that match, but unfortunately, you don't have money, not a penny in your pocket, and at this point, the pressure in you is very high, I tell you that when a gambler arrives that such a stage, he or she have high chances of stealing, whether he or she is addicted to gambling or not, this is when we hear gamblers caught in the act of stealing say that, they had intentions of returning the money after they have won.

So, pressure does lead some gamblers into stealing, not just addiction to gambling or so to say.
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
First of all, stealing is stealing and there is no justification to what the boy did but in the case of assuming that he miraculously won millions of dollars, we all would agree that the mum would definitely be happy but the probability of the boy winning that money is small so stealing that money is definitely going to get him punished and that's my own opinion as I don't know what others will do.

Just a case study, imagine if the boy was not caught I believe he would have stolen another one again or if the money he stole he took from someone else other than his mum then the punishment will be more so there is no justification to the fact that he actually stole the money.
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Let me imagine that I'm this child father. Being a man, it's going to be a bit harder to put myself in the role of the mother Wink
I'd be angry of course and I'd feel like trust is lost between us because I'd for sure give him the money if he wanted to gamble. I'd probably make him work for it, do some chores, and then I'd let him do whatever he wants with it, so that when he loses it he'll feel the loss of time and effort he put into getting it. That's how children learn - through experience.
What would in case he won? The same. I'd be angry he stole from me, try to teach him about trust and honesty. Then I'd tell him not to blow it on the things he doesn't need and see how he does.
That's the right approach and I would do the same if I were in the position of the mother. Even if he won millions of dollars in the process, stealing is still not a good thing to do. A child learns from his/her environment and maybe he was forced to do this because he saw someone do the same. I would not get mad about the amount because any amount is still stealing and this could be taken as he grows which is not a good thing either.
It's not about the money but what he did, he could have asked for money but chose not to do so. Also, he should be checked if he is a gambling addict because those who are addicted are the only ones who could do such a feat.
It will be a good learning point for the kid if he is disciplined, perhaps grounding him will be enough and see to it that he won't do anything funny inside the house like pursuing to still gamble using the internet.
Now if he won millions, I'd say he should take care of that money and not waste it to gambling more. Investing will be a better idea.
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I don't think so unless his son confess that he won such kind of prize. I think win or lose that needs some parenting discipline for him to realize that it was wrong and doing it again may lead to some consequences. Giving them some punishment is enough for them to know what's wrong and right, that's the bittersweet of parenting.

If you have a good relationship and transparent communication with your child, This kind of stealing and lying can be avoided. Sometimes when children are curious about something, they tend to try it, they will find a way to know something, and because they are aware that it is bad to gamble especially at their age, they hide it from their parents. However, if the child grows up to be able to communicate with his parents and have a good relationship, then this can be avoided. The best thing to do if this happens to your children is to give them a proper discipline and put them in a good conversation.


Sometimes they became secretive its because they don't want us to know what they are currently dealing with that's why aside to have a good open relationship with them we also follow what they are doing outside our watch so that we can avoid those unwanted things and they will be guided on right path towards taking good decisions especially on their gambling activities. Stealing is one sign of addiction so if we can't stop them for doing this for sure there will be more worst thing to happen.

Proper discipline is really important also its really better if we are open for certain discussion especially on gambling so that they would realize and learn from us so that they would not think about doing such nasty things that will put them on more risky condition.
I've always valued honest communication. Instead of hiding their challenges, create a space where they may share.

Tracking their activities is risky. We wish to safeguard children, but at what cost to their trust and independence? Balance is essential. Encourage prudent gambling as enjoyment rather than a taboo? We can police their actions and help them make educated decisions this way.

Remember that experience can teach the best lessons. Our role? Provide advise and assistance along their trip. Isnt life about taking risks, learning from them? Gambling may be a learning curve if the enjoyment component is stressed and responsible limitations are imposed.
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I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.

Totally disagree that children follow their parents completely and that kid stole money because he saw some of his parents or relatives do that. There is no way any parent would show and do that in front of the kid. No matter how bad or irresponsible parent is, he will never teach kid anything bad or illegal. The kid can get familiar with stealing from everywhere. Even from cartoons for example. There it is shown that stealing isnt something bad, because main hero will always come and punish the theft.
Whatever the reason may be, if the kid steals money from their parents, it is the responsibility of parents to take ownership of their child's actions. This is the essence of parenting. However, if the child has already committed an action such as stealing, there is no point in trying to find out who or what influenced them. The only thing the parents can do is to have a conversation with their children and make them understand the gravity of their actions. It is important to teach them that stealing is wrong and that it can lead to serious consequences.

Actually it is a point to find out what forced child to commit such action. Reason is simple, to prevent such action to be repeated. Without talking and investigation the problem, nothing good will come out. There can be various reasons why the kid has stolen money to gamble. From being afraid to ask money directly, to having financial issues. What if the kid is weak, afraid to tell parents he was bullied at school and now he owes money bullies. So he decided to gamble to earn them fast, give money to bullies and later silently return stolen money. What if the situation is like that. Then the problem is not in gambling, but in bullies and the kid have mental issues. And instead of punishing him, he needs to be helped.

That is why I root for talking, discussing, explaining, instead of banning, forbidding, punishing when we talk about parenting and education.
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I don't think so unless his son confess that he won such kind of prize. I think win or lose that needs some parenting discipline for him to realize that it was wrong and doing it again may lead to some consequences. Giving them some punishment is enough for them to know what's wrong and right, that's the bittersweet of parenting.

If you have a good relationship and transparent communication with your child, This kind of stealing and lying can be avoided. Sometimes when children are curious about something, they tend to try it, they will find a way to know something, and because they are aware that it is bad to gamble especially at their age, they hide it from their parents. However, if the child grows up to be able to communicate with his parents and have a good relationship, then this can be avoided. The best thing to do if this happens to your children is to give them a proper discipline and put them in a good conversation.


Sometimes they became secretive its because they don't want us to know what they are currently dealing with that's why aside to have a good open relationship with them we also follow what they are doing outside our watch so that we can avoid those unwanted things and they will be guided on right path towards taking good decisions especially on their gambling activities. Stealing is one sign of addiction so if we can't stop them for doing this for sure there will be more worst thing to happen.

Proper discipline is really important also its really better if we are open for certain discussion especially on gambling so that they would realize and learn from us so that they would not think about doing such nasty things that will put them on more risky condition.
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Partially agree with the first part of your comment, but completely agree with the last part of your comment.

Speaking on the first part of your comment, it is true that children learn from their parents, but understand that this is not completely the situation all the time, just as children learn from their parent, they also learn from people outside the home, like friends in school and in other places they often go to or visit, This is one of the reasons why we see some really good parents in the society, but their kids or children seems kind of wayward, this is part fault of the parents and part fault of the friends such kids are or were allowed to keep.

So, in the nutshell, as much as we parents be a good example to and for our children to emulate from, it doesnt and shouldnt end there, we have to constantly keep watch over them to know the type of people they are going out with, or the type of people coming around our children, for it is commonly said that bad company corrupt good manners, which means that, we can give our children the best of training, but if we allow them keep bad company, they will definitely end up deviating from the good manners and morals we the parents thought them.
Of course, the environment will also influence our children, but if we can raise them correctly and explain that family is above all, and trust is something that we need to value and cannot be violated, then I am sure that the child will understand the value of this, and not will be able to steal from the family budget.

Totally disagree that children follow their parents completely and that kid stole money because he saw some of his parents or relatives do that. There is no way any parent would show and do that in front of the kid. No matter how bad or irresponsible parent is, he will never teach kid anything bad or illegal. The kid can get familiar with stealing from everywhere. Even from cartoons for example. There it is shown that stealing isnt something bad, because main hero will always come and punish the theft.
It is clear that the parent will not show how to steal, or do it in front of him, but he can discuss it at home. In cartoons, the one who steals is a negative character, none of the children wants to be a bad character. Children will steal if you could not establish a proper relationship with them and they do not consider you their friend, of course, in addition to other factors that the child needs.
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I don't think so unless his son confess that he won such kind of prize. I think win or lose that needs some parenting discipline for him to realize that it was wrong and doing it again may lead to some consequences. Giving them some punishment is enough for them to know what's wrong and right, that's the bittersweet of parenting.
Well said, this very topic reminds me of a boy his father was late though, there was a day that his mom sent him for an errand,guess what happened?this boy went to the  nearest betting shop,and used the money to play virtual league.

He bet with the whole money given to him by his mother,this guy was left with just 150 naira the boy regretted of going to that bet shop in the first place,so he look at his hand he was just left with 150 then he decided to try once more.

As god may have it,he hit a jackpot of 2million though the last hope was lost already, but there is this  jackpot that falls on his ticket he never knew he won a jackpot of about 2m it was  a man that was sitting right beside him that told him he won a jackpot.

The boy was still tender to an extent that he can't be giving that huge amount of money to take home, so they ask him to locate them to his house so as to tell his mom about the wining, and when they get there and told his mom about it,she was super excited,did you know the statement she make?that her child has changed her life for good,so my question now is that had it been the boy spent the whole of the money in that bet shop what would have become of him?

Well I guess the mom would have skin him alive,reason is because that was the only Money left with her,so as a responsible child you don't have to do such, probably if your mom trusted you with her whole heart,and you did something like this I guess is enough reason for her to lose the trust she build in you either.

As a responsible child is going  to be very thoughtful of you,if you ask your mom to give you money for staken  power,rather than using the money without her consent.
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I don't think so unless his son confess that he won such kind of prize. I think win or lose that needs some parenting discipline for him to realize that it was wrong and doing it again may lead to some consequences. Giving them some punishment is enough for them to know what's wrong and right, that's the bittersweet of parenting.

If you have a good relationship and transparent communication with your child, This kind of stealing and lying can be avoided. Sometimes when children are curious about something, they tend to try it, they will find a way to know something, and because they are aware that it is bad to gamble especially at their age, they hide it from their parents. However, if the child grows up to be able to communicate with his parents and have a good relationship, then this can be avoided. The best thing to do if this happens to your children is to give them a proper discipline and put them in a good conversation.
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What would in case he won? The same. I'd be angry he stole from me, try to teach him about trust and honesty. Then I'd tell him not to blow it on the things he doesn't need and see how he does.
Even if he had won the game it doesn't still change anything about how the money was gotten. If he had won the game and his parent took it for granted just because he won gambling who knows what he will do the next time to raise money to play gambling.  The next time he can decide to sell the family house to play gambling and this time it can turn up to be lose. I think the act of him stealing money to play gambling should not be condole because people do terrible things to play gambling, it is better to raise money from his own means to play gambling than to collect money that doesn't belongs to him, this can also put the owner of the money in a terrible state.

I condemn is act whether is he had won or not because even if he won he is still going to repeat stealing money that doesn't belongs to him which is wrong. Let's take a look at the first action which is stealing, it is wrong no matter how much he won from playing gambling to take the hard earned money of someone to play gambling.
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In my personal opinion no one will in a good state on mind if he see his son stole money for playing gamble. So the same thing will be also happen in my case if my son did that. But here I think what should be done is to understand the boy well without getting excited that gambling should be done after a certain age, moreover, gambling should always be done within one's own means, if addicted to it, life will end.
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As parents then we do have the full rights on what we should gonna do with our children on which of course it would really be needing up that disciplinary action on which it would really be just that
normal that we would really be needing to let them know that the thing that they've done is something wrong and not something ethical on which on the time that stealing is already that happening
because of gambling then you should really be trying out to explain to them about gambling addiction on which its never been good and never been that a nice thing to deal off with.
This is why parenting would really be always challenging because we cant really be able to monitor most of the time on which there are really things which we might be able to miss out.
If ever things do happen then you would really be that responsible on making it straight.
As a parent, it's not necessary to monitor everything your child does. Allowing children to explore and learn from their experiences is vital to their growth. Our responsibility as parents is to guide them toward the right path, and if they make mistakes, we take responsibility while teaching them the difference between right and wrong.
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Using money that is not ours is considered the worst attitude. In a state like that where our kid uses our money secretly for the sake of gambling, is the scenario if the kid won instead of big money a proper argument? If that's the case then we should just tolerate everything since after all, there's a chance of winning big even. Sounds stupid right?

Regardless of the reason, stealing is stealing. The kid in that story highly needs proper and serious guidance.
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As parents then we do have the full rights on what we should gonna do with our children on which of course it would really be needing up that disciplinary action on which it would really be just that
normal that we would really be needing to let them know that the thing that they've done is something wrong and not something ethical on which on the time that stealing is already that happening
because of gambling then you should really be trying out to explain to them about gambling addiction on which its never been good and never been that a nice thing to deal off with.
This is why parenting would really be always challenging because we cant really be able to monitor most of the time on which there are really things which we might be able to miss out.
If ever things do happen then you would really be that responsible on making it straight.
I noticed that one of the really effective ways is to show the sad experience of those who played and lost a lot. Show that these people are unhappy, they feel bad, they would like to go back to the moment before they started playing. Show this to children, but you need to do it carefully so as not to injure the child. I think this will be beneficial in the future, probably if in adolescence he wants to try, maybe he will remember those pictures and the sad experience that could be. Although there will be that small part of teenagers who, on the contrary, will want to try it on themselves, if they were honest. These are the ones who can steal money from their parents in the future. In general, there is no obvious solution to the problem, we can only reduce its likelihood in various ways.
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Even though his son won money from gambling, if I were his parent I would not pay attention to the winnings, I would still discipline my child, if we don't discipline him he will be even further away from acting out.
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I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.

Totally disagree that children follow their parents completely and that kid stole money because he saw some of his parents or relatives do that. There is no way any parent would show and do that in front of the kid. No matter how bad or irresponsible parent is, he will never teach kid anything bad or illegal. The kid can get familiar with stealing from everywhere. Even from cartoons for example. There it is shown that stealing isnt something bad, because main hero will always come and punish the theft.
Whatever the reason may be, if the kid steals money from their parents, it is the responsibility of parents to take ownership of their child's actions. This is the essence of parenting. However, if the child has already committed an action such as stealing, there is no point in trying to find out who or what influenced them. The only thing the parents can do is to have a conversation with their children and make them understand the gravity of their actions. It is important to teach them that stealing is wrong and that it can lead to serious consequences.
As parents then we do have the full rights on what we should gonna do with our children on which of course it would really be needing up that disciplinary action on which it would really be just that
normal that we would really be needing to let them know that the thing that they've done is something wrong and not something ethical on which on the time that stealing is already that happening
because of gambling then you should really be trying out to explain to them about gambling addiction on which its never been good and never been that a nice thing to deal off with.
This is why parenting would really be always challenging because we cant really be able to monitor most of the time on which there are really things which we might be able to miss out.
If ever things do happen then you would really be that responsible on making it straight.
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Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

How can the people discipline the child after she has failed to do that when he was growing up. Does she think that to discipline a child is a day job, and moreover, it is her duty to discipline her child and also ask him why he did such thing. There is nothing the people that she is calling can do about it, because the casino or booker is with the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
If he had won the bet, it is also wrong to steal from your parent, and also involve in gambling when you don't have a means of income, because the boy will end up stealing all the time to gamble.

I will be disappointed at home and keep every means of him access to money out of his reach. I will advise him to stop stealing and gambling as both vices are destructive.
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I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.

Totally disagree that children follow their parents completely and that kid stole money because he saw some of his parents or relatives do that. There is no way any parent would show and do that in front of the kid. No matter how bad or irresponsible parent is, he will never teach kid anything bad or illegal. The kid can get familiar with stealing from everywhere. Even from cartoons for example. There it is shown that stealing isnt something bad, because main hero will always come and punish the theft.

It's clear, no matter how bad or bad parents are, they still always want the best for their children. Maybe we often hear parents say "you have to be successful and be better than your father or mother." All parents want for a child to be able to make his parents proud in any way and maybe one of them is in the world of education where usually the achievements obtained by a child are usually always a source of pride for the parents and it is clear that it makes no sense at all if parents want or even  teach for a child to be involved in activities that are not recommended, whether it is  gambling or other criminal acts such as stealing, because in terms of consequences, I think it is clear that this can be detrimental and make the family's reputation bad in the eyes of other people.

In my opinion, the bad behavior that a child commits is none other than because they are influenced by the wrong environmental factors which ultimately make a child's behavior change for the worse to the point of daring to steal money from their family and this is why it is always important to pay full attention from parents so that they A child does not have wrong social interactions that cause changes in character and behavior.
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I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.

Totally disagree that children follow their parents completely and that kid stole money because he saw some of his parents or relatives do that. There is no way any parent would show and do that in front of the kid. No matter how bad or irresponsible parent is, he will never teach kid anything bad or illegal. The kid can get familiar with stealing from everywhere. Even from cartoons for example. There it is shown that stealing isnt something bad, because main hero will always come and punish the theft.
Whatever the reason may be, if the kid steals money from their parents, it is the responsibility of parents to take ownership of their child's actions. This is the essence of parenting. However, if the child has already committed an action such as stealing, there is no point in trying to find out who or what influenced them. The only thing the parents can do is to have a conversation with their children and make them understand the gravity of their actions. It is important to teach them that stealing is wrong and that it can lead to serious consequences.
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