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I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.

Totally disagree that children follow their parents completely and that kid stole money because he saw some of his parents or relatives do that. There is no way any parent would show and do that in front of the kid. No matter how bad or irresponsible parent is, he will never teach kid anything bad or illegal. The kid can get familiar with stealing from everywhere. Even from cartoons for example. There it is shown that stealing isnt something bad, because main hero will always come and punish the theft.
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It's not stole about my son. I collect the money of gambling money by telling lie to my family members. They are don't know what is gambling how it's work. Maximum time they think that's a scam. The they will took my money and don't give any profit that's the reason i forcely tell lie for money.
You used another means to take money from your parent and family member and used the money for gambling this is not the same thing as stealing from them, they have different punishment one is asking from them which shows you have some level of respect for them the other is going to take it by force without them knowing which is the highest of it or, what if the money is not of your parent and the owner of the money they drastic action do you think that gambling winning can save you? This is why we just don’t have to encourage them steal treating them differently because they won the bet is same thing like encouraging them to do more.
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I don't think so unless his son confess that he won such kind of prize. I think win or lose that needs some parenting discipline for him to realize that it was wrong and doing it again may lead to some consequences. Giving them some punishment is enough for them to know what's wrong and right, that's the bittersweet of parenting.
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Let me imagine that I'm this child father. Being a man, it's going to be a bit harder to put myself in the role of the mother Wink
I'd be angry of course and I'd feel like trust is lost between us because I'd for sure give him the money if he wanted to gamble. I'd probably make him work for it, do some chores, and then I'd let him do whatever he wants with it, so that when he loses it he'll feel the loss of time and effort he put into getting it. That's how children learn - through experience.
What would in case he won? The same. I'd be angry he stole from me, try to teach him about trust and honesty. Then I'd tell him not to blow it on the things he doesn't need and see how he does.
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I have always been a great supporter of not using violence to solve any problem, even when the problem is serious, violence should not be used. That's why in the case of a relative of mine stealing money to gamble, I wouldn't punish him. but I would sit down and talk to him to understand what the reasons were that made him steal money to gamble. It is necessary to show that he is not alone, that his mistake has a fix, he just needs to show regret and commit to correcting his mistake. Children have no idea of the value of money. 15-year-old children don't know how difficult it is to get money and how difficult it is to pay all their bills, including how difficult it is to pay for the school they go to. 15-year-old children don't know that to stay in school, their parents buy uniforms, their parents pay for school registration, their parents buy books and folders and also pay monthly fees.

As 15-year-old children don't know much about anything, they think that taking the money and throwing it around isn't a big mistake, but it is necessary for parents to sit down with the children and talk a lot with the children, so that they put it into their hands. children's heads that they must always be honest, countries need to educate their children well to not steal and not lie. Parents often resort to violence to educate their children, but this only makes their children's bad behavior worse. In this case, in my opinion they should calmly draw the child's attention, give more space so that the child feels comfortable and safe to tell why he stole money to play, after that the parents should tell the child that the games are for people over 18 years of age and that he, being a minor, should not repeat that mistake again
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Why should you feel disappointed in your child, if this is you who failed to raise him? Feel disappointed in yourself. Because you have failed to make him understand that stealing is bad.
So if you tell your child that it’s bad to steal, does that mean they won’t steal? Even if you tell your child something's bad and they shouldn’t do it, don’t be surprised that they will go behind your back and end up doing things that you warned them not to do. If things like this happen, are you going to blame yourself for that? I'm sure most parents do tell their children that stealing is bad, but some children won’t just listen.

I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Will there always be a need to find someone to take the blame if someone important to you did a bad thing? Would you wish to see your child is stealing? For sure all of us won't like our child/children to do bad things but it won't also be valid to scold someone including ourselves, just for the sake of looking back with what happened. Focus more on the present and the future; let the child know what's wrong from what's right on the right way. Show him or make him realize things nicely. Give the idea of the consequences of our actions. If it is not in an instant then be patient 'til they learn from it. Allow them to make baby steps as long as they are moving forward with what should be done or be acted when faced with other people.

With the mentioned scenario, things were done already. Do your best to learn from it and acknowledge how good people would make you realize the things you know nothing about. Remember that it is child we would be dealing with in most instances. I, too, is guilty of such act before when I was still young and trying to let her buy the thing that I want. The fact that one is now aware of how it did. It won't be an instant counseling for our children and if you're authoritarian, do things with care still. No lesson is learned thru violence.
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I bet that she wouldn't be disappointed if his child ended up winning a lot lol, but in reality this is very unlikely to happen because almost all of the children who gamble end up losing. And that is why it is very important for parents to be able to tell their children that they should not gamble and stay away from it. Even though gambling is not a dangerous thing, if they play it is very likely that they will lose and it will cost their parents money, so it is better for them to avoid it and focus on their duties as children.
I agree with you hahaha. But if the mother is a very strict person, maybe she will still punish her child for stealing her money to gamble. And even though he wins, he still has to be held accountable for his actions in stealing his mother's money. This education is implemented by the mother so that her child does not steal money again, even from other people or his own family. The issue of winnings that his son got from gambling is another problem, and that matter will be discussed after his son has received his punishment. But who knows, maybe the child will just be disciplined by other family members for stealing. His mother felt disappointed because her son had stolen her money to gamble, and hopefully, her son would not repeat his actions.
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
I think it's an unreasonable question. And even if we think about the odds, then the probability of winning millions of dollars from the $15 you say? That's only 1:1000 or 10000 chances. I mean it's so unreasonable for that to happen. So it's natural for mothers to be angry and disappointed with their child's attitude. I don't know whether this is due to environmental influences or lack of parental supervision but I think in general the child has made a big mistake by gambling and taking his parents' money. At least I'm not saying he stole it.
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It's not gambling that will make me angry, it's how he steals from his family whether he will use it to gamble or for anything, you don't and you never steal from your family, it is dishonesty, cheating and a sign of bad character and it reflects on the whole family.
Well that's right, before going into gambling we can discuss from the other side first, as you discuss here that the child already has a bad personality and morals in him so that he can have the courage to steal money from one of his family members, and is this as a result of the wrong upbringing of parents? this can be used as an excuse but I can't be completely sure, because on the other hand I think that indeed the impact of gambling involvement can also make a person act out of control especially if he has entered the addiction phase in the sense that he is hopeful and cannot miss the slightest time not to gamble.

We can see that it is not uncommon for cases to occur that gamblers who are addicted to them are desperate to commit acts out of control such as robbery or other criminal acts and one of the causes is because gambling activities have affected their common sense. So the point is in this problem in my opinion there are two things that can be the reason why a child can be reckless like that.
I think you are saying that gambling only fuels his negative habits. I think that was true as I already hear a similar case and maybe I myself already experienced the same thing but on other activities only and not in gambling. And I'm not saying that I'm also like that kid who steals money. No, I wouldn't do that. When a child acts like this, it's not always the parent's fault, in a way that we saw them acts like that but some can be through genetics or it was inherited.

My response to the OP's question is; I think I will feel angry at first after I found it out, but eventually, I will realize that he is my child and he is too small to get punished. So I will forgive him and correct his way.
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Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.

Children learn from their parents but if they gets the company of bad friends then they also follow them because a company of a friend has great impact on person's behavior.
I also notice one thing that if those children are more likely to involved in bad activities for whom their parents have settled strong boundaries but those who are free to do everything will not do anything bad which their parents don't like.

I think that parents should allow their children for all activities but they should teach them about bad and good one so they will easily differentiate among them. Parents if always talk about money in fronts of their children then surely their children will also concentrate on getting money without thinking about the way through which they earn and for them stealing of money will be a normal part of their life.
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I bet that she wouldn't be disappointed if his child ended up winning a lot lol, but in reality this is very unlikely to happen because almost all of the children who gamble end up losing. And that is why it is very important for parents to be able to tell their children that they should not gamble and stay away from it. Even though gambling is not a dangerous thing, if they play it is very likely that they will lose and it will cost their parents money, so it is better for them to avoid it and focus on their duties as children.

Well this can also be a possible thing haha, what you said is quite reasonable too and can be a possibility that if for example it turns out that the child manages to get a win then it seems that the parents will not be too angry or maybe they are even happy. But yes we have to go back to the real fact that in gambling it is not an easy thing to get a win because all this really depends on your luck, on the other hand I will not say that a child cannot win, everyone can win in gambling but not everyone is always lucky and this is the reason why there can be a loss at the end of the session and also the reason why winning is very difficult to get.

A child is curious as well as ambitious about whatever they find and this means that it is very possible for them to experience the adverse effects of gambling such as losing a lot of money because they cannot control and impose any limits on their gambling involvement and this is the reason why a child should not be involved in gambling because this can also affect their personality so that this can threaten their future. Honestly I can't say as you said that "gambling is not a dangerous activity" this is not true, because after all the risk in gambling is greater than the possibility of winning, and I will correct what you said that gambling will not be "too" dangerous if you can control everything properly.
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I bet that she wouldn't be disappointed if his child ended up winning a lot lol, but in reality this is very unlikely to happen because almost all of the children who gamble end up losing. And that is why it is very important for parents to be able to tell their children that they should not gamble and stay away from it. Even though gambling is not a dangerous thing, if they play it is very likely that they will lose and it will cost their parents money, so it is better for them to avoid it and focus on their duties as children.
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It doesn't matter if he wins (or not) but because it was stolen money, he should know the consequences he made. It should not be tolerated as it was already shown that something worse thing to happen if just ignore. As a parent, it was our role to guide our kids to the right direction, not by letting them do even though it was wrong. If does it to his father, he could also do it to other people, and for the sake of gambling, he should be stopped before anything else happens someday. A responsible parents couldn't let that thing happen.
Stealing is stealing no matter how big or small of the amount that we are talking on here on which it would really be just that normal as a parent then you would really be needing to apply some disciplinary action on which it is really just that normal as a parent to guide them into the most possible best way to become a good being on which you would really be needing them to teach some lesson if needed. There's no good on stealing and it would be just good that you do able to stop them while its still early or not too late rather than on making them to be able to mess up as an addicted gambler.
This is why it would really be that best that you should really know on how to handle up such situation on which it would really be that crucial as a parent on raising them well.
Having these kind of mistakes or activities is never been good, so its better to stop it while early.
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
First of all, I want to discuss that stealing money is not a commendable thing. So the child's behavior of stealing his mother money is clearly in the wrong context. Therefore, it is natural for a mother to be angry with her child, because his child has stolen the money she worked so hard to find. So in this context, in my opinion, the main trigger for mother to be angry is not necessarily because their children use the money to gamble. But angry because the child stole his money. So it's clear now, the main trigger for the mother's anger was because the money was stolen, right? Because if, for example, a child uses his mother's money for other things, I'm sure his mother will still be angry.
a child who is already good at making money transfers and creating gambling accounts is of course more than 17 years old and frankly there is no point in discussing whether stealing is wrong or right because he is old enough to know what is wrong or right, if I were there in your aunt's position, the only thing I would do as a mother would of course be to punish her very harshly and even confiscate her cell phone for a certain time limit, Nowadays, I think teenage children have been greatly influenced by the environment and promiscuity so they will not pay attention to what their parents say If we just give him advice, perhaps today we will look very rude in the eyes of the child, but the punishment we will give will certainly have a deterrent effect so that the child will not repeat the bad deed.
 I see many parents who pamper their children too much and often forgive bad deeds child, so that in the end the child seems to have become accustomed to doing bad things and it is very difficult to change when he grows up, believe me, the punishment we give today will be a valuable lesson for the child when he grows up.
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
First of all, I want to discuss that stealing money is not a commendable thing. So the child's behavior of stealing his mother money is clearly in the wrong context. Therefore, it is natural for a mother to be angry with her child, because his child has stolen the money she worked so hard to find. So in this context, in my opinion, the main trigger for mother to be angry is not necessarily because their children use the money to gamble. But angry because the child stole his money. So it's clear now, the main trigger for the mother's anger was because the money was stolen, right? Because if, for example, a child uses his mother's money for other things, I'm sure his mother will still be angry.

And regarding your core question, I don't think the mother would be too angry if her child managed to win the gambling. The mother may only slightly reprimand her child for his wrong actions (stealing). Then most likely the mother will be very happy, because after all the mother will definitely get a share of the profits from her child's gambling results. But from the story you share, we can all learn a lesson. That when gambling we definitely have to use money that is truly ours and that money is cold money. So that when the worst possibility befalls (loss), we will not be too dizzy or depressed. Because the money used for gambling is our own money and also cold money.
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It doesn't matter if he wins (or not) but because it was stolen money, he should know the consequences he made. It should not be tolerated as it was already shown that something worse thing to happen if just ignore. As a parent, it was our role to guide our kids to the right direction, not by letting them do even though it was wrong. If does it to his father, he could also do it to other people, and for the sake of gambling, he should be stopped before anything else happens someday. A responsible parents couldn't let that thing happen.
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

You also know that she will not lose her cool if her son wins the bet; you understand the spirit of money. She will even pray for her son as soon as she finds out he has won, but let's be honest: it is not a good idea for a young child without a job to learn how to gamble; gambling is for people with money who want to have fun and win games; it is not meant for those without it. The incident I witnessed involved a 27-year-old man stealing 500,000 naira from his mother to gamble with. He lost, so he decided to poison himself to kill himself because his mother had warned him not to do so. Fortunately, the man's mother was there to give him an injection just in time, but I wonder if the man knew what he was doing.
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Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.
This means that children are dependent on their parent's upbringing. They follow what their parents do and think it is permissible so they will try to follow it. Maybe they don't see their parents stealing, but they see adults around them stealing, and they follow suit without thinking about it, or they hear stories from their friends that they stole their parents' money, so they want to try it too. This often happens to children because of their interactions with their friends, and each child is educated differently by their parents, so they will also behave differently. But if the parents' teaching is clear and the children can understand it well, they will not want to steal money from anyone and will ask for the money carefully.
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I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.
Partially agree with the first part of your comment, but completely agree with the last part of your comment.

Speaking on the first part of your comment, it is true that children learn from their parents, but understand that this is not completely the situation all the time, just as children learn from their parent, they also learn from people outside the home, like friends in school and in other places they often go to or visit, This is one of the reasons why we see some really good parents in the society, but their kids or children seems kind of wayward, this is part fault of the parents and part fault of the friends such kids are or were allowed to keep.

So, in the nutshell, as much as we parents be a good example to and for our children to emulate from, it doesnt and shouldnt end there, we have to constantly keep watch over them to know the type of people they are going out with, or the type of people coming around our children, for it is commonly said that bad company corrupt good manners, which means that, we can give our children the best of training, but if we allow them keep bad company, they will definitely end up deviating from the good manners and morals we the parents thought them.
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I find that guys post funny. He has failed in teaching a kid, and the kid is to blame. I am sure that kid got punished, but parents should be punished to. If my kid steals, I am going to blame myself only. Because I havent taught him well that this is bad. If the kid wont listen and steal, after being taught that this is bad - that is also my fault. Because I am not authority for him. That is why he wiped his feet over what I was teaching him. Of course parents should not be tyrants with over control. There should be limits. But in exchange there must be respect.
Children first of all follow their parents, if it is acceptable for them to steal, then they saw it from their parents, or perhaps heard about it from their parents. In any case, this is the result of raising children, if you need to hide money in your family from those closest to you, and be afraid that someone might steal the money, then something is wrong, and it’s definitely not the children’s fault.
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