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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

It will be disheartening for the whole family because we have a thief and a dishonest member in the family and I just felt that as a parent I'm a big failure that I raise a problem child to the family and in the future could be a potential problem to the society, because if he can do this to his family he can do this to other people and this will cause a bad reputation to the whole family.

Even if he won and the bets comes from stolen money I don't think I can take it, its not a guarantee that even if he won money he will change his way, stealing is bad and it will hurt the most if you're doing it with your family, if you steal to your family that means you don't respect your family and you have no moral.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

This issue shouldn't be taken lightly because it is an issue of stealing and if the behavior is not corrected, the boy will continue and even start stealing from the street to gamble. The boy is already addicted to gambling which is a very bad stage for every gambler. If possible, the boy should be punished and then restricted from gambling. If need be, he should be taken to a counselor to help him out with the addiction. So, his mom should be more concerned about helping the boy and not to castigate him.

Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind in this context?

Whether she will be mad or not depends solely on what she believes. Most people don't celebrate money won through gambling since they believe that gambling is evil. If the woman falls into this category, she will still frown at the act. However, no matter the ill feeling, an effort should be made to remedy the situation by giving the son an admonition that will help control the urge to gamble.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

She couldn't call everyone to fix the situation. The mum should advise the children properly without violence and use hard psychology techniques. In fact, her child is just child who doesn't know anything which one is right and bad. I'm really sure if his mother advised him correctly with affection, that child will realize how important that money is, and he would not steal again on his mum's account. We have to protect our children from something that is not good for them, limit them to playing games, and always check what he was playing. if there is a gambling game on his cellphone, we have to remove it immediately.

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Clearly, the mother was disappointed with her son's behavior, who immediately spent the money he had collected for so long and lost it in an instant just by playing gambling.

actually the mother besides being disappointed, she wants to give her son a valuable lesson on how hard it is to collect money like that, so that he is not careless again to lose it in a short time. and the mother wants to teach a lesson about responsibility. have dared to lose money, then the child must return it even if it is a long time.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

It is not everything that discipline solves in a child. Some African parents may go as far as spanking their children, but it does not solve the problem, and they do not know. These kind of children need serious mental rehabilitation from professionals who need to correct the problems mentally first.

Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Stealing is stealing and there is no justification for it, a good mother would be disheartened if the boy had won a multi million price because it is the same with if the boy suddenly came home one day with a bag full of money, and the money openly accepts the son with no questions.

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Who cares if the child lost the money? What is she looking for? The money or her son? Because from what I see, her son is going astray from probably bad company of friends. So before we start talking about the money and if he won, let’s talk about the bigger problem on how her son is already gambling. I don’t know how old he is, but from the way this sounds, it seems to be a young boy.

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Quote from: Yatsan on January 20, 2024, 06:26:45 PM

I would first determine why he came to a point that he needs to steal; is the drive too much already? When did he start to gamble and who influenced him? It will always be starting from the roots or causes of an existing problem.

I agree because we may be more open to outside influence, notably when it comes to gambling, when we are emotionally or psychologically weak. I believe that he may also feel under pressure from peers to conform and join in order to fit in or be accepted. For example, he may be influenced by friends or acquaintances who are regular gamblers and who would push someone to partake.

Naturally, people who experience social isolation or a lack of acceptance may be more vulnerable to social influence, particularly if they view gambling as a way to make friends or get acceptance in a certain social group.
If people believe that gambling provides a quick and simple answer to their issues, they are more likely to give it a try. On the other hand, it could be that he was only desperate for easy money.

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In such a situation, I'll have the realization that somewhere I've made a mistake, and the same is paying off. This means my parenting is not working in the right way, and I am looking for a solution to correct him. Probably I'll explain to him all the advantages and disadvantages one could experience from gambling. Further, it is his wish whether to gamble or not. Gambling is not wrong, but stealing is wrong, and you shouldn't do this. This is what I say to him, don't repeat it. Be good.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

A thief is a thief no matter what's the result of the gambling someone's made. Knowing that it is gambling, i could be very angry if i'm his father. If her son won that's great but he still need some disciplining for this doing. Remember he did it already just for gambling, it could be repeated again just like addiction strike if he wasn't scolded and educated this early for what he did is wrong — and stealing is always wrong no matter the amount is. Because time will come that it's not only $15 that he will steal it will be more than that if he wasn't get proper education.

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Stealing either way has to be paid for and reversed in its betrayal of trust. The proceeds being used to gamble doesn't negate anything even if it was a win. If its an adult really you should deal with the matter as if it was theft by anyone, reason being they will just repeat the theft if they dont pay for it. If its a child at the very least they should repay the value taken, a days work at least and if it was a harsh punishment a weeks work of various tasks that need doing. If you do any less with a child you are causing future problems because they will go on to steal from almost anyone else if they are prepared to steal from their own family, its a real danger they fall into a cycle of failure if left alone to learn stealing works out fine.

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I'd be mad for sure because stealing is already a bad thing and if it was used in gambling then that adds intensity to the thing he has done. But to properly address the issue on his end, I would first determine why he came to a point that he needs to steal; is the drive too much already? When did he start to gamble and who influenced him? It will always be starting from the roots or causes of an existing problem. Rather than scolding or hitting him physically, try to at least communicate especially if his age still doesn't give him the initiative to do so; do your responsibility as his parent and as an adult. If things won't be handled properly, then it has a tendency to get worse, perhaps stealing from other people.

Many of us would be guilty of getting some dimes from our parent's purse without their approval but on my end I used it before with candies and not in gambling activities, which I guess makes it different and makes it worse. Tendency of addiction is being observed in such cases that a child, at a young age, knows how to steal and has an intention to use it in gambling which is even illegal to many countries.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

I am going to be livid. Might even smack the shit out of him if that ever happens (if I were to even have a kid in the first place.)

The thing is that you as a parent should teach your kid how to be morally straight and what's right and wrong, the very fact that he's stealing from you is a stark sign that you're not raising your kid right cause how in the fuck is he able to steal from you or even have the balls to steal from his parents? And to even use the money for something as trivial as gambling, that's just insane dude. I say smack the shit out of the kid and make sure he realizes that what he did was wrong, it's one thing to steal, it's another to waste it on gambling. If you guys let him do this he's gonna grow up thinking he can manhandle you people and steal money for everything he thinks is cool. This time it's gambling, tomorrow it could be drugs. Make your choice. But personally, I wouldn't let something like that slide within my household especially if the kid's still living under my dime and roof.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

Talking from the view of a gambler ni will definitely understand that such money lost means it can't be recovered except they are going to recover it from another means it probably placing another bet but then that will be chasing losses which will lead to losing some more money to the casino.

I will actually be mad at him for taking funds that were not his to gamble which is more like borrowing to gamble of which I'm very much against but then I will not Force him to go get the money by any means I willet it go but with some resentments and make sure not to allow him get access to may account enough to be able to make such transactions at so much ease, but if he had won I will as well celebrate with him and still warn him of the dangers of doing such and ask him never to do such again as I will not tolerate it Incase of a nextime.

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The parent of such a child should know that they have failed in nurturing the child against such vices as gambling and stealing and the child should be punished or scolded properly to avoid a repeat of such.

If am the parent though, I would be embarrassed, I would find out why after listening to child speak and inorder not to let my mental state be perplexed, I would cease such gambling activities I partake in or refrain from gambling in their presence in total.

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Quote from: Westinhome on January 20, 2024, 05:33:55 PM

The son had loss the fifteen dollars is not the big money,but it many be considered as the fraud.Because he had try to play the game with the stolen money,if the son had won the million of dollars it may be the another story.Because he had given that 15$ and withdraw the money and start their own business.Finally he may satisfy his own needs and satisfy their parents wish at the earliest stage.The complain by the aunty because she loss the money totally and never inform anyone about this,the son should try to play the game with their own money.If she play with their own money,no one will complain about their parents.

I think the essence of the OP's explanation in the main thread is not about the high number of wins, but there are 2 things that worry the mother, namely that her son has stolen and the stolen money is for gambling, so her son has done 2 things at once and if he is under 18 years old then gambling activities must be stopped and he must be immediately trained not to make the same mistakes in the future.

I don't want to discuss the amount of winnings from gambling, but the bad behavior of theft for gambling must be addressed immediately because if he steals other people's money he will have to deal with the police, so parents must play an active role in monitoring their children's activities so they don't make the same mistake.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

In this our dying economy our children or child go steal my money secretly to gamble at first who gave him or her the permission to go have access to my money s/he has to face the penalty for touching my money at first and again the mother being the woman is too careless to have revealed his app pin to his son to have stole her money to gamble. After which if he wins i will ceased all money from my son because he made such money without my consent of asking me money to, you know there are ways to take money from parents maybe they can say they wanna settle some things on their own it could be something not that serious and when they have such money they can have some part to place bet than indirectly having access to my mobile banking app to drain my account to gamble this shows a great problem is to befall that family in time to come because whenever the parents weren't able to have control over their children then it turns to addictions and or, possibly going out there to borrow money to gamble just to satisfy his gambling desires whenever the urges comes.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

The fact that he took the money without asking her shows he doesnt respect her or care about her trust. It is also pretty messed up that he used the money to gamble instead of something smarter.

I bet she wouldnt be as disheartened if he had won the bet. That wouldve been a nice surprise, but it wouldnt change the fact that he stole from her and gambled away her money. She would still feel betrayed and let down even if he got lucky.

If it was me, I would be so pissed and I would want to punish my kid so they knew they screwed up bad. I would also be stressed about what could happen because of how they acted, like getting into debt or becoming a gambling addict. Thats scary stuff.

But also, kids gotta be raised right from when they little. Not saying you gotta be super strict or anything. But you gotta be there for them and help them grow up smart and kind and all that good stuff. Make sure they dont go running around doing nonsense and do that and they will probably turn out decent in the end.

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Quote from: Zoomic on January 20, 2024, 04:55:18 PM

Which parent wouldn't be mad at their child for stealing? No matter the reason for stealing or the what the money stolen is used for, it doesn't in any way make it right. Any parent who celebrates his/her child for making money through questionble means should be questioned because such act will only be ruining the child the more. When a child begins to steal from his parents, it is a wake up call for the parent to act fast before the habit becomes part of them.

A gambler who steals to gamble is irresponsible and their is no guarantee that he will make good use of his gambling win if he eventually wins. Stealing, taking loans and selling off properties to gamble is an act of irresponsibility and should be highly discouraged. Once a person starts cultivating these harmful gambling habits, it might become difficult for them to be responsible even if they win.

this shows the upbringing he had and his morals. though we can't judge him totally because that's what gambling can do to some people especially if they have strong desire to play their games and they need to resort things like the OP's situation just to get a hold of money to supply their games.
the parent should think now about this alarming situation of their child, because if they will not do anything about it, this can easily escalate to more trouble in the future.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

The son had loss the fifteen dollars is not the big money,but it many be considered as the fraud.Because he had try to play the game with the stolen money,if the son had won the million of dollars it may be the another story.Because he had given that 15$ and withdraw the money and start their own business.Finally he may satisfy his own needs and satisfy their parents wish at the earliest stage.The complain by the aunty because she loss the money totally and never inform anyone about this,the son should try to play the game with their own money.If she play with their own money,no one will complain about their parents.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 20, 2024, 02:55:19 PM

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

the issue isn't about what he used the money for but more of the fact that he took the money without the guidance permission and that should be discouraged in it entirety.

The reason why some youth still continue committing ill act in the society is because when they do so, no one and brings in money to the home, no one cautions them because they've brought money home.

Gambling is meant to be basically for fun and a bit of partial source of income and so it's best you gamble with your money and not with that of another person you are not aware of his plan for his money.

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