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But joking aside here, I think that a lot of things must have been going wrong beforehand. I think in a healthy relationship between father and son, it would be quite a rare occasion that a son steals money and then uses it to gamble. Wonder if it is about stealing money from a physical wallet or taking it from a credit card or otherwise, but in the end it doesn't matter.

I'd think that if father and son get along well, what would the issue be to ask the dad for some cash to have fun doing some gambling? It's not the best activity, but if there is trust between the two, I'd rather want my son to ask.
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If I where the woman, since the deed has already been done, and is obvious that the son have lost the bet, trying to get him refund the money will only lead to more crisis for both the boy and the entire family because he may be pressured to provide the money by all means and by that be forced into stealing from others to be able to pay back and in the process ended up in a bigger mess.
You are right, the OP said the boy lost the money to gambling, how will the boy be able to refund the money? The boy isn’t working yet, so if you can force the boy to refund the money, then he will definitely go outside and steal just to be able to refund the money, and if the boy get caught outside, it’s going to cause more problem, and it’s going to bring shame to the family. The best thing is just to warn the boy to stop gambling, tell him the necessary things which the boy is suppose to know about gambling, and tell him never to repeat what he just did. I think that’s the only thing the mother can do, she shouldn’t force the boy to refund the money.

I don't know what could have triggered the boy to act in that way, but most times, such behavior could be a reflection of something that could have generated from the parent, may be there have not been proper training for the boy and he may have been left to fend for himself all the while to have thought of gambling means he have been independent all the while.
Most of this bad characters are learn by children from school, and social media, since most of them have access to mobile phone, they can easily take their phone and gamble without even parents knowing about it. Some of them will even clear their browsing history, they won’t leave any traces that will make you even think they are gambling, you won’t blame parents always.
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Putting the blame on parents or kids doesnt help. Now, I hear you. Some kids today really need to work on their manners. I see you parents who work so hard to raise your kids right, and its not fair. But kids arent toys. Parents arent always able to keep their kids in line. Because thats how people work, some kids do go in the wrong direction.

Both parents and kids need to understand that loss in gambling can't be recovered no matter if both of them blame each other. Kids, especially those who are in their teenage do not care for their parents' money and they argue or misbehave if the parents ask them to keep refrain from gambling.

Parents have to bring home the food, so they cant keep a close eye on their kids all the time. Thats where we need a real plan. Values need to be taught so they stay with the child even when parents arent around. Also, remember that life is a risk. Kids need to learn how to take chances and think about the pros and cons. Not only should you follow the rules without question, but you should also use your best sense. That sometimes means making a smart move. Its that kind of smart risk-taking that we should teach.

It is the right that parents keep an eye on their children and if they find them involved in bad habits, they should be strict to them and force them to stop those things and one of the bad habits is gambling at under age. It will not only result in the loss of money for the parents but also affect the kid's studies.

If the son steals money for gambling, the parents should not be lenient with him and should give him a severe punishment, so he never thinks of stealing the money again. Ignoring such things will develop bad habits in children.
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But I myself would consider that what happens to child in the future depends on the parents, we cannot blame the parents but on the other hand, the responsibility of parents is to guide their children to the right path.

I would instead blame parents. Because it is their fault, that they raised that kid in a way, that he has used stealing to solve his money problem. Not ask money from parents, not tried to earn them or borrow. But to commit a crime. Of course the fault is not 100% lays in parents. People who surround him also play role. But a kid and what he does is 100% parents responsibility.

Even if there are a number of careless parents out there, the majority try to do a good job at it despite having to work or more jobs, so I will disagree as I have always thought that it is up to each person to decide and create the life they want for themselves, and this process begins when people are still kids, the kid had to decide whether to steal that money or not, and since most parents will teach their kids that stealing is wrong, then the responsibility of ignoring that advice falls completely on the kid, and they should be the ones to shoulder the consequences as well.

Agree, since we are in a generation where most of the youth today are rude and have no manners, most of all kids  have no fear for those who are older than them especially their parents, I do not agree with the statement that the parents should blame, because there are parents who always give advice and teach good manners to their children but you will be surprised because the children themselves disobey all the instructions of the parents, they themselves do what will harm them and the children themselves are the ones who decide what they will do, take note that parents are not focused on their children 24/7 because others need to work so that they can raise their children properly, but there are some young people who no matter how good their parents are the opposite of children's behavior.
Putting the blame on parents or kids doesnt help. Now, I hear you. Some kids today really need to work on their manners. I see you parents who work so hard to raise your kids right, and its not fair. But kids arent toys. Parents arent always able to keep their kids in line. Because thats how people work, some kids do go in the wrong direction.

Parents have to bring home the food, so they cant keep a close eye on their kids all the time. Thats where we need a real plan. Values need to be taught so they stay with the child even when parents arent around. Also, remember that life is a risk. Kids need to learn how to take chances and think about the pros and cons. Not only should you follow the rules without question, but you should also use your best sense. That sometimes means making a smart move. Its that kind of smart risk-taking that we should teach.
Parenting is really that crucial i would say but its true that not all the blame should really be put into the parents or something that do talks about questioning on which we know that due to
hard work and would really be able to skip out those kind of responsibilities on which we are really that guilty with that but due on having those aims on giving them a good life in terms of
providing their needs then you cant really put up all the blame. It is really just that there are really those kids who are really that going into the wrong path and wont really be able to think
about the sacrifice of their parents and this is why they do really end up with these wrong doings. Although not all would really be that lost on such path on which
there are even kids who do able to handle and make out right decisions.
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But I myself would consider that what happens to child in the future depends on the parents, we cannot blame the parents but on the other hand, the responsibility of parents is to guide their children to the right path.

I would instead blame parents. Because it is their fault, that they raised that kid in a way, that he has used stealing to solve his money problem. Not ask money from parents, not tried to earn them or borrow. But to commit a crime. Of course the fault is not 100% lays in parents. People who surround him also play role. But a kid and what he does is 100% parents responsibility.

Even if there are a number of careless parents out there, the majority try to do a good job at it despite having to work or more jobs, so I will disagree as I have always thought that it is up to each person to decide and create the life they want for themselves, and this process begins when people are still kids, the kid had to decide whether to steal that money or not, and since most parents will teach their kids that stealing is wrong, then the responsibility of ignoring that advice falls completely on the kid, and they should be the ones to shoulder the consequences as well.

Agree, since we are in a generation where most of the youth today are rude and have no manners, most of all kids  have no fear for those who are older than them especially their parents, I do not agree with the statement that the parents should blame, because there are parents who always give advice and teach good manners to their children but you will be surprised because the children themselves disobey all the instructions of the parents, they themselves do what will harm them and the children themselves are the ones who decide what they will do, take note that parents are not focused on their children 24/7 because others need to work so that they can raise their children properly, but there are some young people who no matter how good their parents are the opposite of children's behavior.
Putting the blame on parents or kids doesnt help. Now, I hear you. Some kids today really need to work on their manners. I see you parents who work so hard to raise your kids right, and its not fair. But kids arent toys. Parents arent always able to keep their kids in line. Because thats how people work, some kids do go in the wrong direction.

Parents have to bring home the food, so they cant keep a close eye on their kids all the time. Thats where we need a real plan. Values need to be taught so they stay with the child even when parents arent around. Also, remember that life is a risk. Kids need to learn how to take chances and think about the pros and cons. Not only should you follow the rules without question, but you should also use your best sense. That sometimes means making a smart move. Its that kind of smart risk-taking that we should teach.
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My friends aunty called him on the call while we were conversing today, and  she was complaining about how her son has withdrawn #20,000 approximately $15 from her account through mobile transfer to play bet and he lost it all.
She complained bitterly and pitifully because she struggled to safe such amount of money.

Now, the mum is calling on everyone she could to intervene, discipline the child and force him to provide the money in any means he can without the concern of how he could refund the money.

Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?
even professional gamblers will not want to let their children who are still at school go gambling with the money they give them, children's lives must be directed upwards especially with the current conditions, just imagine if we let our children gamble then they will be reluctant to go to school and in the end we ourselves suffer big losses because we spend a lot of money to send them to school, usually parents will hit their children to discipline them and that is something that parents must do, for the sake of their children's future.
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But I myself would consider that what happens to child in the future depends on the parents, we cannot blame the parents but on the other hand, the responsibility of parents is to guide their children to the right path.

I would instead blame parents. Because it is their fault, that they raised that kid in a way, that he has used stealing to solve his money problem. Not ask money from parents, not tried to earn them or borrow. But to commit a crime. Of course the fault is not 100% lays in parents. People who surround him also play role. But a kid and what he does is 100% parents responsibility.

Even if there are a number of careless parents out there, the majority try to do a good job at it despite having to work or more jobs, so I will disagree as I have always thought that it is up to each person to decide and create the life they want for themselves, and this process begins when people are still kids, the kid had to decide whether to steal that money or not, and since most parents will teach their kids that stealing is wrong, then the responsibility of ignoring that advice falls completely on the kid, and they should be the ones to shoulder the consequences as well.

Agree, since we are in a generation where most of the youth today are rude and have no manners, most of all kids  have no fear for those who are older than them especially their parents, I do not agree with the statement that the parents should blame, because there are parents who always give advice and teach good manners to their children but you will be surprised because the children themselves disobey all the instructions of the parents, they themselves do what will harm them and the children themselves are the ones who decide what they will do, take note that parents are not focused on their children 24/7 because others need to work so that they can raise their children properly, but there are some young people who no matter how good their parents are the opposite of children's behavior.
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But I myself would consider that what happens to child in the future depends on the parents, we cannot blame the parents but on the other hand, the responsibility of parents is to guide their children to the right path.

I would instead blame parents. Because it is their fault, that they raised that kid in a way, that he has used stealing to solve his money problem. Not ask money from parents, not tried to earn them or borrow. But to commit a crime. Of course the fault is not 100% lays in parents. People who surround him also play role. But a kid and what he does is 100% parents responsibility.
Even if there are a number of careless parents out there, the majority try to do a good job at it despite having to work one or more jobs, so I will disagree as I have always thought that it is up to each person to decide and create the life they want for themselves, and this process begins when people are still kids, the kid had to decide whether to steal that money or not, and since most parents will teach their kids that stealing is wrong, then the responsibility of ignoring that advice falls completely on the kid, and they should be the ones to shoulder the consequences as well.
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But I myself would consider that what happens to child in the future depends on the parents, we cannot blame the parents but on the other hand, the responsibility of parents is to guide their children to the right path.

I would instead blame parents. Because it is their fault, that they raised that kid in a way, that he has used stealing to solve his money problem. Not ask money from parents, not tried to earn them or borrow. But to commit a crime. Of course the fault is not 100% lays in parents. People who surround him also play role. But a kid and what he does is 100% parents responsibility.
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But I myself would consider that what happens to child in the future depends on the parents, we cannot blame the parents but on the other hand, the responsibility of parents is to guide their children to the right path.
Yes, because the role of parents is very important for the growth of children and their future, teaching them not to do bad things even though our children learn from us because they often see us gambling, it is necessary to guide them, tell them that gambling is not a serious game or It is said to be a place to earn money so they never try gambling out there, usually children often do things we don't want outside the home, that's why we need provisions to make them aware so they can be good children.

A child's character will be formed when parents play a role in their growth, so it's not strange if children are naughty, usually because their parents are busy taking care of their work and making money, so they forget to allocate their time to their children, which ultimately makes their children lack the love and attention they need, that's why It's important as parents to guide and direct their path in a better direction to be a good person for themselves and others, at least avoid gambling which might make them do things they don't want, don't steal other people's money just because they want to gamble. In fact, it will land him in prison and in trouble with the law.  Wink
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Question: would she be so disheartened and mad as this if the son had won the bet on a multi million price?
Dear fellows, let's assume you are the mom, what would be your state of mind on this context?

The risks of gambling are very dangerous that’s why, I empathize with this difficult situation the mother and her son are facing. It feels bad just to hear about someone losing money, what if when it is taken without permission from a close and loved one who worked hard to make it.
About the mother's reaction i find it normla for her to feel deeply upset and disappointed, regardless of whether her son had won or lost while gambling. The loss of trust and the breaking of boundaries are a serious issue that should be fixed and discussed well between a mother and her son.

If I was in the mom’s position, I would be focused on teaching and studying well the underlying problem of unauthorized gambling and the breaking of trust it represents. even with winning a big sum of money from that bet wouldn't change the fact that the behavior was irresponsible and disrespectful to me. It's important to approach the situation with understanding and seeking to educate her son about the consequences of his actions and helping him learning a lesson from this experience. Beside that it’s important to always be behind that son and monitoring him well.
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Without a doubt parents still hold some influence, but this influence can get eroded really quickly with social media, friends, teachers and other adults that take care of the child, so parents no longer hold the same authority they had on the past, so even if they make the best effort possible to get their kids on the right path, it is now very easy for kids to ignore that advice and go astray, and as such I really think we cannot blame the parents when that happens.
Actually parents so not ha e the whole balme to take whenever things happen because in todays society we have got a whole lot that really influences the children and some of these things are actually out of the control of the parents but in cases like this the parental discipline instilled in the child much longer before then usually helps such children a long way to keeping them away from indulging in such, although they would want to explore but that which has been instilled in them long ago will definitely be a reason to causes them some restrain even if it's not complete restrain.

Friends and social media has got an influence on children such that sometime we may not be able to really get control of and at that point I think it's the society that has got a role to play because by extension of every parent instill good discipline in their various children, when they come together they wouldn't have the wrong habits to influence others with.
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And this is where parenting would really be that needed on which this is something that you would really be needing off because once you dont do your responsibility as a parent
then you would really be needing to monitor on what your children dealing with and with todays technology then it would really be that too easy to make those kind of access into those sites
on which it would really be something that could lead into those potential risks on learning up things like gambling. If you are a parent whose really not that minding about those stuffs then you are really just that basically putting up your children into those potential involvement on which later on you would be able to hear out that theyve done something shit just because
you've forgotten your responsibility as a parent.

As parents of course we have responsibilities for our own children, such as educating them in the right way. with the right education and direction, of course parents want success or other good things to happen to their children, not by stealing money from their own parents or other people because it is impossible for parents to teach things like that, unless they are a family of thieves. but I think families like that only exist in movies and can't possibly exist in real life. because it is clear that such actions will only be detrimental.

I agree with you, with current technological developments it has made many things easier, but we also have to supervise our children who still need supervision even though they are smart in operating today's technology. It seems impossible if parents don't care about their children, of course parents must do the best for their children, including by educating them and supervising them well, because the act of stealing money, even if it is done to their own parents, is an incorrect act.
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Without a doubt parents still hold some influence, but this influence can get eroded really quickly with social media, friends, teachers and other adults that take care of the child, so parents no longer hold the same authority they had on the past, so even if they make the best effort possible to get their kids on the right path, it is now very easy for kids to ignore that advice and go astray, and as such I really think we cannot blame the parents when that happens.
It's different these days.

With the influence of social media, kids today are tougher than before. Tough in a sense that they can attain not to listen to their parents because they think that they can do better while they're young.

It also varies on how their parents have introduced them in the real world because if they're focused on their children and always give them the reminder, as they grow older, they'll remember that such stealing to gamble is a big thing and mistake that they should have never done.
It is interesting to see how things have changed, not long ago when parents were too busy to attend to their kids, they used the TV and even video games as a nanny for their kids, however even if this decreased their influence, if the kid had any question they still used their parents as a reference, but social media is different in the sense that it can interact with the kid, so the kid is now very heavy influenced by it and many parents do not realize this is the case until their kids begin to behave on an erratic fashion.
And this is where parenting would really be that needed on which this is something that you would really be needing off because once you dont do your responsibility as a parent
then you would really be needing to monitor on what your children dealing with and with todays technology then it would really be that too easy to make those kind of access into those sites
on which it would really be something that could lead into those potential risks on learning up things like gambling. If you are a parent whose really not that minding about those stuffs then you are really just that basically putting up your children into those potential involvement on which later on you would be able to hear out that theyve done something shit just because
you've forgotten your responsibility as a parent.
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If I where the woman, since the deed has already been done, and is obvious that the son have lost the bet, trying to get him refund the money will only lead to more crisis for both the boy and the entire family because he may be pressured to provide the money by all means and by that be forced into stealing from others to be able to pay back and in the process ended up in a bigger mess.

So the best thing for the woman is to look for another way to prunise the boy aside making him to pay back by all means, and also again  the son should be stripped off of all allowances until the mum have recovered 100% before anything.

I don't know what could have triggered the boy to act in that way, but most times, such behavior could be a reflection of something that could have generated from the parent, may be there have not been proper training for the boy and he may have been left to fend for himself all the while to have thought of gambling means he have been independent all the while.
Some of the bad vices that children engages in is caused by bad parenting. Bad parenting have made so many children to do things they weren't supposed to do if they were carefully raised. As a parent, before you punish a child for stealing money to gamble or strip him off his allowances, you must ask yourself if you're doing what's expected of you as his parent to protect the child from getting exposed to gambling at a very young age. Gambling is rated 18 because of the fact that it's very addictive and should be only played by adults who are mentally strong enough to make financial decisions for themselves and not for kids and that's why whenever a kid engages in gambling, he's very likely to be addicted to it which will lead to doing anything tp satisfy his addiction including stealing.
If my child happens to engage in gambling and steals my money to fund his gambling activities, I'll first check if I have been doing what's required of me as his father to protect him from gambling and if after doing that and confirms that I truly did what's expected of me as his father, I can then take actions by punishing the child so he doesn't engage in gambling again.
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If I where the woman, since the deed has already been done, and is obvious that the son have lost the bet, trying to get him refund the money will only lead to more crisis for both the boy and the entire family because he may be pressured to provide the money by all means and by that be forced into stealing from others to be able to pay back and in the process ended up in a bigger mess.

So the best thing for the woman is to look for another way to prunise the boy aside making him to pay back by all means, and also again  the son should be stripped off of all allowances until the mum have recovered 100% before anything.

I don't know what could have triggered the boy to act in that way, but most times, such behavior could be a reflection of something that could have generated from the parent, may be there have not been proper training for the boy and he may have been left to fend for himself all the while to have thought of gambling means he have been independent all the while.
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Without a doubt parents still hold some influence, but this influence can get eroded really quickly with social media, friends, teachers and other adults that take care of the child, so parents no longer hold the same authority they had on the past, so even if they make the best effort possible to get their kids on the right path, it is now very easy for kids to ignore that advice and go astray, and as such I really think we cannot blame the parents when that happens.
It's different these days.

With the influence of social media, kids today are tougher than before. Tough in a sense that they can attain not to listen to their parents because they think that they can do better while they're young.

It also varies on how their parents have introduced them in the real world because if they're focused on their children and always give them the reminder, as they grow older, they'll remember that such stealing to gamble is a big thing and mistake that they should have never done.
It is interesting to see how things have changed, not long ago when parents were too busy to attend to their kids, they used the TV and even video games as a nanny for their kids, however even if this decreased their influence, if the kid had any question they still used their parents as a reference, but social media is different in the sense that it can interact with the kid, so the kid is now very heavy influenced by it and many parents do not realize this is the case until their kids begin to behave on an erratic fashion.
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It's different these days.

With the influence of social media, kids today are tougher than before. Tough in a sense that they can attain not to listen to their parents because they think that they can do better while they're young.

It also varies on how their parents have introduced them in the real world because if they're focused on their children and always give them the reminder, as they grow older, they'll remember that such stealing to gamble is a big thing and mistake that they should have never done.
We're different and engaged in activities with different mindset. I'm never looking down on hitting the next goal in my view of the world. My son stealing my money to gamble? Why would he because as a parent, one of the primary responsibilities is to ensure you're taking your children's needs as priorities to meet up for. Social media is there and the kids that quickly have access to phones will definitely make moves to grab the opportunities they feels is right and will do everything to sort themselves out. The real world comes to the young ones who entirely embrace them without second thoughts.

Yes... indeed, as long as they are not mature enough, they cannot differentiate between what is good and what is right, and are not able to make decisions wisely. then these things are still completely part of our responsibility. Therefore, as parents, we must always ensure that our child's growth and development goes well.

And it cannot be denied that the influence of social media on children's lives and development is extraordinary. and quite a few of them even spend their time just playing on social media. However, because we are too busy with endless work, sometimes we often neglect them, let alone providing family education to them, it seems like we rarely do just paying attention and giving love to them. Where we go to work while they are still asleep and come home from work after they are fast asleep. and when a child has lost the attention and love of his parents, it is quite possible that later the child will look for escape to get his pleasure, including by playing gambling. And we will only regret it when it is too late, after something bad happens to them.
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Parents still have a great deal of influence in the life of a growing child. But parents today are beginning to share the responsibility of bringing up their child with lots of other people. For some, I would think babysitters wields a great amount of influence in the life of a child than the parents themselves who spend little to no time with their children.
Despite having access to smartphones and all of that, parents still have a great deal of influence. It’s left for them to use it properly in bringing up the child right. In this case, the parents have a share of the fault in the stealing habits cultivated by the child in order to gamble.
Without a doubt parents still hold some influence, but this influence can get eroded really quickly with social media, friends, teachers and other adults that take care of the child, so parents no longer hold the same authority they had on the past, so even if they make the best effort possible to get their kids on the right path, it is now very easy for kids to ignore that advice and go astray, and as such I really think we cannot blame the parents when that happens.
No, even though child has fairly close environment with other people around him, parents can still have control over child growth and development and also their future.
This depends on how parents carry out their obligations in acting as guides and also ensuring the survival of their children in the future, if they as parents don't care too much then the external environment becomes the most dominant influence.
Even though the influence of the external environment has a big influence, if at home the parents are able to play their role well then all the influences that come from the external environment will be able to be suppressed or controlled.
Just look at the many children who have succeeded in having good growth and development with parents who always provide direction and education regarding various attitudes that should be avoided.

But I myself would consider that what happens to child in the future depends on the parents, we cannot blame the parents but on the other hand, the responsibility of parents is to guide their children to the right path.
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It's different these days.

With the influence of social media, kids today are tougher than before. Tough in a sense that they can attain not to listen to their parents because they think that they can do better while they're young.

It also varies on how their parents have introduced them in the real world because if they're focused on their children and always give them the reminder, as they grow older, they'll remember that such stealing to gamble is a big thing and mistake that they should have never done.
We're different and engaged in activities with different mindset. I'm never looking down on hitting the next goal in my view of the world. My son stealing my money to gamble? Why would he because as a parent, one of the primary responsibilities is to ensure you're taking your children's needs as priorities to meet up for. Social media is there and the kids that quickly have access to phones will definitely make moves to grab the opportunities they feels is right and will do everything to sort themselves out. The real world comes to the young ones who entirely embrace them without second thoughts.
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