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Topic: What's wrong with Vod, and Hhampuz - page 2. (Read 4587 times)

legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
May 14, 2019, 05:10:42 PM
Lots of excuses and brown nosing.
sucking OG's reproductive organs and licking OG's thingy behind


Now go and read my post again.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
May 14, 2019, 05:04:51 PM
Lots of excuses and brown nosing.

All of that is fine and good. Even if all of that is accepted, what exactly was Vod's intent in making the post? What purpose could that even conceivable serve other than to harass OGNasty and bring scrutiny on him without evidence, and further publicizing OG's personal information? How would posting this information serve the forum in any way? It wouldn't, this is just more of the same abusive behavior from one of the worst serial perpetrators on the forum.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
May 14, 2019, 04:51:32 PM
-snip-
To expand on your statement: I never even seen the thread when the DOXX was in there (I think) and I could find his full information with the use of 1 search engine and his username very quickly. The problem was severely exaggerated as this information is literally everywhere.

Regarding negative feedbacks, whoever didn't send -ve to Vod when he released dox, didn't send -ve when thread was edited, didn't send -ve when thread was thrashed and did tag Vod after someone "gave them green light" or someone told them to do it, they have no place in DT.
Idiot gator is all about virtue signalling, he has no integrity, no consistency nor (a capability for) rationality thus I agree with this. He's a relative newcommer in collector channels, and managed to get disliked by a lot of people very quickly due to his unstable behavior. The wind is constantly blowing, but you don't have to flow with it every time it changes direction.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
May 14, 2019, 04:44:48 PM
In my personal opinion, potentially losing the forum treasury holdings due to a momentary lapse of judgement by a single individual would be more significantly damaging to the forum, Bitcoin, our community [...]
May I step in for a second, lets not pick sides.


OGnasty announced on internet that he is forum treasurer, for example in this forum https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-ognasty-treasurer-at-bitcointalk-org-ask-me-anything-t2221.html and that information is verifiable HERE.

It was in 2015. but you will probably find newer posts where he is braging around with his finances, anyway, from thread where he announced that he holds money for bitcointalk he also brags about something else:

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For those who need information, all these "double meanings/talking in riddles/talking like politician/taking gifts and donations/barking around" means shit.

As outsider, I see two possibilities. In case this is OG's house in video he is the one who will potentially cause damage to himself, in case this isn't his house - he is the one who will potentially cause damage to some random person (I hope I said this correctly).

Vod doxed OG, that is a fact, but also OG doxxed himself.

OG lost his privacy the moment he published that video, and he published that video on forum, place where people are looking for information, scammers and criminals as well., place available to 6 billion people. This forum isn't isolated society.

Don't blame only one side.

Hypothetically speaking, if I was after anyone's funds I certainly wouldn't wait them to fight with someone and someone to release someone's dox. You will see that only in very bad movies. I see so many users smarter than me and with much much bigger technical knowledge, still, living in a fairy tail, blind to see, or just playing games like politicians.


Regarding negative feedbacks, whoever didn't send -ve to Vod when he released dox, didn't send -ve when thread was edited, didn't send -ve when thread was thrashed and did tag Vod after someone "gave them green light" or someone told them to do it, they have no place in DT.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
May 14, 2019, 04:15:01 PM
He is paying you for work on a regular basis.

How much do I pay him and how regularity do I pay him?

Are you and OG now harassing everyone who has supported my work?

copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
May 14, 2019, 03:45:21 PM
That is a ridiculous assertion and is based on the fact Vod is your employer.

Thanks for the clarification /sarcasm Smiley, however, my employer is who I work for practically every day of my life to feed my family and have a place to live, and that's not Vod. Your "facts" seem a bit flawed. What else is new??
He is paying you for work on a regular basis. The conflict exists regardless of if i am referring to your day job or a side gig that gives you extra pocket cash.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
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May 14, 2019, 03:38:08 PM
I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

Who’s gonna escrow?
I can Smiley
That's a lot of money when BTC will hit 1B :-P 🚀

Just saying this now.  I have given killyou72 no information privately regarding my taxes or any reviews/audits that may or may not have taken place previously.
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
May 14, 2019, 03:17:36 PM
That is a ridiculous assertion and is based on the fact Vod is your employer.

Thanks for the clarification /sarcasm Smiley, however, my employer is who I work for practically every day of my life to feed my family and have a place to live, and that's not Vod. Your "facts" seem a bit flawed. What else is new??

edit:
He is paying you for work on a regular basis. The conflict exists regardless of if i am referring to your day job or a side gig that gives you extra pocket cash.

Paying me for work on a regular basis Huh   I'm not sure where the hell you would ever get this idea but I assume it's coming from the same source that told you Lauda has a pill addicition?  
legendary
Activity: 2464
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May 14, 2019, 03:07:28 PM
I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

Who’s gonna escrow?
I can Smiley
That's a lot of money when BTC will hit 1B :-P 🚀
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
May 14, 2019, 02:53:18 PM
I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

Who’s gonna escrow?
I can Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do
May 14, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that

Who’s gonna escrow?
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2510
Spear the bees
May 14, 2019, 02:51:39 PM
I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund
Open a lightning channel Tongue
hero member
Activity: 2254
Merit: 960
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May 14, 2019, 02:50:59 PM
I will bet 1 person here 0.000001 btc that if OG gets audited he will get a refund

To say that og doesn't pay his taxes is a joke. Isn't his wife/girlfriend an accountant or a lawyer or something like that
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
May 14, 2019, 02:48:22 PM
So that there is no possible way for my feedback to be misconstrued; I have removed the 500 BTC risked. I can tell that it will create a divide, and distract from the actual issue meant to be tackled. Somehow, I doubt that is going to change anything.

Since you have now endangered Vod due to the people who are going to hunt him down thinking he was a scammer who took or was trying to take 500BTC, should I be leaving you feedback now?  Roll Eyes

That is a ridiculous assertion and is based on the fact Vod is your employer.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1475
May 14, 2019, 02:44:45 PM
But... I removed the DOX....    Roll Eyes
And that's why I think you don't deserve the negative trust either. But retaliation shouldn't be the only reason why you leave that trust.

Too late I think.
I'm more concerned about non-deserved negative trust. The whole discussion has been absurd for a long time but I just ignore it.

In my personal opinion, potentially losing the forum treasury holdings due to a momentary lapse of judgement by a single individual would be more significantly damaging to the forum, Bitcoin, our community than any scam I have seen take place around here. I am all for forgiveness, and I most likely will remove my tag at a later date
That's not what negative trust means. It doesn't mean "a momentary lapse of judgement by this user could have significantly damaged the forum". It means "this user is very untrustworthy. He has scammed and/or I think he will scam as soon as he gets a chance.".
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
May 14, 2019, 02:40:46 PM
So that there is no possible way for my feedback to be misconstrued; I have removed the 500 BTC risked. I can tell that it will create a divide, and distract from the actual issue meant to be tackled. Somehow, I doubt that is going to change anything.

Since you have now endangered Vod due to the people who are going to hunt him down thinking he was a scammer who took or was trying to take 500BTC, should I be leaving you feedback now?  Roll Eyes


Makes sense.   I deleted the dox, but he left feedback anyway.  

I made a mistake, but Bill outright lied.  

Based on OG's feedback, it is appropriate to leave negative trust for someone who endangered a life, no matter mistake or lie.
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
May 14, 2019, 02:39:23 PM
So that there is no possible way for my feedback to be misconstrued; I have removed the 500 BTC risked. I can tell that it will create a divide, and distract from the actual issue meant to be tackled. Somehow, I doubt that is going to change anything.

Since you have now endangered Vod due to the people who are going to hunt him down thinking he was a scammer who took or was trying to take 500BTC, should I be leaving you feedback now?  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
May 14, 2019, 02:32:37 PM
In my personal opinion, potentially losing the forum treasury holdings due to a momentary lapse of judgement by a single individual would be more significantly damaging to the forum, Bitcoin, our community than any scam I have seen take place around here. I am all for forgiveness, and I most likely will remove my tag at a later date, but for now this needs to have consequences within the trust-system; if I am going to walk away from this situation with negative trust, that should say something.

But... I removed the DOX....    Roll Eyes

Which has saved you from having the same trust-rating as Quickseller, self-preservation isn't noble.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
May 14, 2019, 02:31:12 PM
I have removed the 500 BTC risked

This clearly means the negative left to bill gator is no longer deserved (if it ever was).


But... I removed the DOX....    Roll Eyes

Again this is absurdly getting out of control.

Too late I think.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1475
May 14, 2019, 02:25:16 PM
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant.
Everyone who left Vod appropriate red-trust were removed from DT as a result.  I'm sure that's not a problem, right?  

Here you "forgot" to include the rest of the quote that completes the idea:
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.



I have removed the 500 BTC risked

This clearly means the negative left to bill gator is no longer deserved (if it ever was).



Again this is absurdly getting out of control. Would you all learn how to use the trust system and leave negative trust only if you think the user has scammed or will steal as soon as they get a chance?
Leave negative trust only if you think this label is deserved:



This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.

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