Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant.
Everyone who left Vod appropriate red-trust were removed from DT as a result. I'm sure that's not a problem, right?
Topic: What's wrong with Vod, and Hhampuz - page 5. (Read 4587 times)
Everyone who left Vod appropriate red-trust were removed from DT as a result. I'm sure that's not a problem, right?
Well it looks like some ongoing fight against each other for some of Dt members which only do damage to the community here at least the ones who are being nominated here are good ones in my point of view, both OgNasty, Vod and Hhampuz as far as I see are good contributors to the forum. By fighting against each other attention is removed from catching scammers.
I think you are projecting just a tad there Heinrich. I hardly ever drink, and if I do I am not home posting. None of my posts here in this thread are edited.
You know you went to far and this is just a really pathetic attempt to divert attention from your own dangerous behavior which is antithetical to the entire reason for this community's existence.
You know you went to far and this is just a really pathetic attempt to divert attention from your own dangerous behavior which is antithetical to the entire reason for this community's existence.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51009261
It looks like you did edit the mostly drunk stuff though....
Drunk/High whatever. Head didn't hurt the next morn? lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIbFtZMVwxk
How To Argue (But Not Fight) With A Narcissist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqV_QIvDeqA
The Simplest Way To Spot Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Completely on topic.
How To Argue (But Not Fight) With A Narcissist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqV_QIvDeqA
The Simplest Way To Spot Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Completely on topic.
Theymos, I hope you realize you are opening yourself personally as well as the forum up to huge legal liability by not taking any action regarding this. If something were to happen to OGNasty, him or his family would have a very solid case, especially since Vod has exhibited this behavior multiple times in the past. Legally speaking you would have no excuses.
No more HEIL Theymos? You get drunk, post bullshit, then delete it, multiple times I have seen. How is your head now?
I have the courage to publicly stand behind my words - you don't.
I agree with some things you say. If you could control your jealousy, we could talk about it.
I think you are projecting just a tad there Heinrich. I hardly ever drink, and if I do I am not home posting. None of my posts here in this thread are edited.
You know you went to far and this is just a really pathetic attempt to divert attention from your own dangerous behavior which is antithetical to the entire reason for this community's existence.
I have the courage to publicly stand behind my words - you don't.
Really? From my perspective it looks like you’re deleting your social media and trying to hide. Nothing remotely courageous about your behavior. I’ve even seen your behavior described by. LC as being a bitch, which I feel is far more accurate.
Please send your legal contact info to [email protected]
I have the courage to publicly stand behind my words - you don't.
Really? From my perspective it looks like you’re deleting your social media and trying to hide. Nothing remotely courageous about your behavior. I’ve even seen your behavior described by LC as being a bitch, which I feel is far more accurate.
Theymos, I hope you realize you are opening yourself personally as well as the forum up to huge legal liability by not taking any action regarding this. If something were to happen to OGNasty, him or his family would have a very solid case, especially since Vod has exhibited this behavior multiple times in the past. Legally speaking you would have no excuses.
No more HEIL Theymos? You get drunk, post bullshit, then delete it, multiple times I have seen. How is your head now?
I have the courage to publicly stand behind my words - you don't.
I agree with some things you say. If you could control your jealousy, we could talk about it.
Ironic, how I behest others to disengage. Last one, since this is something new.
Big mouth, large oral orifice
You must be a scared human througing always so foul-mouthed words arround.Could be also the result of being mentally defeated
Big mouth hiding ?Do you have no balls as you always claim?
What a fucking nonsense you claim.
he gave horseshit which could be used for a clear identification by law.
I hope you will take it like a men and stop bitching arround once you see the results of my actions.
We destroy accounts in the name of prevention because all users on bitcointalk are little monkies acting like a 4 year old.Only TMAN Lauda and Suchmoon will be able to protect these little no brain monkeys /irony
i don't wanna hear bitching about me when suchmoon is going to be hold responsible and that i didn't gave her a fair chance and warning to remove that abuse.
Big mouth, large oral orifice
~snip
are you able to pinpoint the exact moment in your life that turned you into such a prized cunt? Really? do you think you are helping in anyway shape or form here?
You must be a scared human througing always so foul-mouthed words arround.Could be also the result of being mentally defeated
~snip
are you able to pinpoint the exact moment in your life that turned you into such a prized cunt? Really? do you think you are helping in anyway shape or form here?
Theymos, I hope you realize you are opening yourself personally as well as the forum up to huge legal liability by not taking any action regarding this. If something were to happen to OGNasty, him or his family would have a very solid case, especially since Vod has exhibited this behavior multiple times in the past. Legally speaking you would have no excuses.
How?
Theymos saw the post and then magically the Dox were removed - pretty sure he cleared his liability there buddy.
How? It's pubilcy known that OG holds 500 btc and OG himself has posted his address on the internet.
Nobody shows up to bill gates house to rob him. What about the fact that banks probably have a lot of money in them I don't see people running and jumping to rob them.
How can theymos be held liable for information posted on a semi public forum? That is like saying Christopher Poole is responsiblily for everything posted on 4chan pre 2015
I am just going to answer this pretending you have enough understanding of the law to comprehend it, though I have my doubts.
There are protections for commons, but as soon as you curate information, in the case by creating the precedent DOXing is not allowed, you inherently automatically create liability by picking and choosing who is allowed to continue to do so again in the future. You are either a commons or a publisher, and in this circumstance Theymos is firmly occupying the role of the publisher by enforcing the regulations on doxing on some but not all people. As a publisher he is liable for information he chooses to publish. This chain of logic is self evident. If doxing is not allowed, and this instance is excused, he is complicit in publishing the information in violation with the published and accepted terms of service of this forum (regardless of there not technically being one you click agree to or not).
Theymos, I hope you realize you are opening yourself personally as well as the forum up to huge legal liability by not taking any action regarding this. If something were to happen to OGNasty, him or his family would have a very solid case, especially since Vod has exhibited this behavior multiple times in the past. Legally speaking you would have no excuses.
How?
Theymos saw the post and then magically the Dox were removed - pretty sure he cleared his liability there buddy.
How? It's pubilcy known that OG holds 500 btc and OG himself has posted his address on the internet.
Nobody shows up to bill gates house to rob him. What about the fact that banks probably have a lot of money in them I don't see people running and jumping to rob them.
How can theymos be held liable for information posted on a semi public forum? That is like saying Christopher Poole is responsiblily for everything posted on 4chan pre 2015
Theymos, I hope you realize you are opening yourself personally as well as the forum up to huge legal liability by not taking any action regarding this. If something were to happen to OGNasty, him or his family would have a very solid case, especially since Vod has exhibited this behavior multiple times in the past. Legally speaking you would have no excuses.
How?
Theymos saw the post and then magically the Dox were removed - pretty sure he cleared his liability there buddy.
As I explained this is not the first time he has done stuff like this. By excusing this behavior and giving him a continuing platform to continue to engage in this behavior he is setting a clear precedent of complicity with this behavior. If this was the first time it could be excused with a claim of ignorance, but now he no longer has any plausible deniability and if something does happen Theymos and the forum could be held civilly liable for failing to prevent this behavior on his platform when he knew very clearly this was occurring and allowed it to continue regardless of deletions.
Theymos, I hope you realize you are opening yourself personally as well as the forum up to huge legal liability by not taking any action regarding this. If something were to happen to OGNasty, him or his family would have a very solid case, especially since Vod has exhibited this behavior multiple times in the past. Legally speaking you would have no excuses.
How?
Theymos saw the post and then magically the Dox were removed - pretty sure he cleared his liability there buddy.
Theymos, I hope you realize you are opening yourself personally as well as the forum up to huge legal liability by not taking any action regarding this. If something were to happen to OGNasty, him or his family would have a very solid case, especially since Vod has exhibited this behavior multiple times in the past. Legally speaking you would have no excuses.
Hhampuz : Super helpful and to trust member.
Vod : Don't know Vod as many as you, but see a lot of him, have had a few PM's and seem to be a very, extreem careful member for this forum and a member I would trust for a deal any day, as I know ifI would have a problem or something and PM him, he will help where he can!
IMO two members how more members should act or be like.
Now close the thread? -------------------------->@forum and @Theymos, review my Msource application please thx, a fair chance is all i'm asking
Vod : Don't know Vod as many as you, but see a lot of him, have had a few PM's and seem to be a very, extreem careful member for this forum and a member I would trust for a deal any day, as I know ifI would have a problem or something and PM him, he will help where he can!
IMO two members how more members should act or be like.
Now close the thread? -------------------------->@forum and @Theymos, review my Msource application please thx, a fair chance is all i'm asking
Lock it or don't - depending if you want to read more insults or not.
OG still has his "Vod is a liar" thread, and he'll keep it going, so have another thread like this with no purpose is up to you.
I'm too busy to reply often for the next few days...
OG still has his "Vod is a liar" thread, and he'll keep it going, so have another thread like this with no purpose is up to you.
I'm too busy to reply often for the next few days...
Why is this in Meta and why do you feel the need to stir this drama further? PM teeGUMES if you're curious.
Now, the question is clearer. If I did not start the topic, we would have not seen the following post of theymos, that help us have better overview on admin's stance on Trust system, roles of DT members, and the way Trust / feedbacks works. It's only better for the forum, I believe. At the start, I believe that something inappropriately used with such feedbacks, that's all.I was disgusted by the reckless and vicious doxing in this case, where:
- The evidence was very thin.
- Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
- The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.
It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.
For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.
- The evidence was very thin.
- Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
- The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.
It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.
For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.
What do you think if I lock the topic? (Personally, I believe it is time to lock it). I will listen to your opinion till the end of today, and might lock the topic tomorrow, even next hours if most of you support to lock it.
Don't know but whistle blower losing the DT status cannot be stated as a desired outcome.
But better to lock it because user can sort out their differences in PM and after Theymos reply we do not need to brainstorm more.
Why is this in Meta and why do you feel the need to stir this drama further? PM teeGUMES if you're curious.
Now, the question is clearer. If I did not start the topic, we would have not seen the following post of theymos, that help us have better overview on admin's stance on Trust system, roles of DT members, and the way Trust / feedbacks works. It's only better for the forum, I believe. At the start, I believe that something inappropriately used with such feedbacks, that's all.I was disgusted by the reckless and vicious doxing in this case, where:
- The evidence was very thin.
- Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
- The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.
It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.
For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.
- The evidence was very thin.
- Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
- The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.
It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.
Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.
For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.
What do you think if I lock the topic? (Personally, I believe it is time to lock it). I will listen to your opinion till the end of today, and might lock the topic tomorrow, even next hours if most of you support to lock it.
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