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July 06, 2016, 08:14:39 PM

I think it quite strange that cars, rockets, computers and thousands of other complex machines come from people making them. And these things wouldn't have been made if there wasn't the intelligence of people to make them.

Yet, people take instruction for everything they make, from the machinery in nature.

But some people can't seem to fathom that the far grater machinery of nature must have been made, as well.

How strange.


What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a car BADecker? What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a computer and a rocket? Please explain.



How far back do you want to go? Did people invent fire because they didn't have anything better to do that day? Or did they see lightning strike a tree and the wood burn afterward? Or was it a volcanic lava stream that started fires?

It takes fire to melt iron and glass. You need to look through a lot of history of where things came from, who invented them, and why, to get the answers to your questions. It was a long process to go from fire to computers and rockets, but it all comes from nature and natural operations of nature's machinery.

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Isn't human seeing a lighting striking a tree is by a pure chance? That doesn't meant for anything, they just walked by  and see strange event and tried to do it and that's how human invents fire.

I think you guys need to rephrase what you are trying to say. Man did not create fire just like man did not create mathematics. They were both discovered.
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July 06, 2016, 08:12:49 PM
Many atheists fear religion because they are not very intelligent.

Oh fer chrissakes dude!!
are you trying to compete with my buddy BADecker to be the most delusional poster in here?

Very funny considering their post was the definition of "not very intelligent"
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July 06, 2016, 08:05:16 PM
Many atheists fear religion because they are not very intelligent.

Oh fer chrissakes dude!!
are you trying to compete with my buddy BADecker to be the most delusional poster in here?
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July 05, 2016, 05:26:53 AM

I think it quite strange that cars, rockets, computers and thousands of other complex machines come from people making them. And these things wouldn't have been made if there wasn't the intelligence of people to make them.

Yet, people take instruction for everything they make, from the machinery in nature.

But some people can't seem to fathom that the far grater machinery of nature must have been made, as well.

How strange.


What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a car BADecker? What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a computer and a rocket? Please explain.



How far back do you want to go? Did people invent fire because they didn't have anything better to do that day? Or did they see lightning strike a tree and the wood burn afterward? Or was it a volcanic lava stream that started fires?

It takes fire to melt iron and glass. You need to look through a lot of history of where things came from, who invented them, and why, to get the answers to your questions. It was a long process to go from fire to computers and rockets, but it all comes from nature and natural operations of nature's machinery.

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Isn't human seeing a lighting striking a tree is by a pure chance? That doesn't meant for anything, they just walked by  and see strange event and tried to do it and that's how human invents fire.
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July 05, 2016, 01:24:29 AM

I think it quite strange that cars, rockets, computers and thousands of other complex machines come from people making them. And these things wouldn't have been made if there wasn't the intelligence of people to make them.

Yet, people take instruction for everything they make, from the machinery in nature.

But some people can't seem to fathom that the far grater machinery of nature must have been made, as well.

How strange.


What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a car BADecker? What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a computer and a rocket? Please explain.



How far back do you want to go? Did people invent fire because they didn't have anything better to do that day? Or did they see lightning strike a tree and the wood burn afterward? Or was it a volcanic lava stream that started fires?

It takes fire to melt iron and glass. You need to look through a lot of history of where things came from, who invented them, and why, to get the answers to your questions. It was a long process to go from fire to computers and rockets, but it all comes from nature and natural operations of nature's machinery.

Cool
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July 05, 2016, 01:04:10 AM

I think it quite strange that cars, rockets, computers and thousands of other complex machines come from people making them. And these things wouldn't have been made if there wasn't the intelligence of people to make them.

Yet, people take instruction for everything they make, from the machinery in nature.

But some people can't seem to fathom that the far grater machinery of nature must have been made, as well.

How strange.


What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a car BADecker? What machinery in nature instructed someone to build a computer and a rocket? Please explain.

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July 04, 2016, 04:40:31 PM
Many atheists fear religion because they are not very intelligent.

All God pushers are afraid of the truth, they cannot think for themselves, they have been indoctrinated, hypnotized, these are same people that watch soap operas, and think its real life, they also believe everything they read in the newspapers, they even quote Wiki, the biggest piece of crap in the entire world, well it comes a close second to all religious books.

I am free from all that.

Are you saying pro-wrastlin' is fake?

Kill the heretic!

Ha ha, when I was a kid I thought yes, but grown in brain power now, fake as

 

And that is all it takes, a working brain.
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July 04, 2016, 04:11:30 PM
Many atheists fear religion because they are not very intelligent.

All God pushers are afraid of the truth, they cannot think for themselves, they have been indoctrinated, hypnotized, these are same people that watch soap operas, and think its real life, they also believe everything they read in the newspapers, they even quote Wiki, the biggest piece of crap in the entire world, well it comes a close second to all religious books.

I am free from all that.

Are you saying pro-wrastlin' is fake?

Kill the heretic!
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Soon, I have to go away.
July 04, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
Many atheists fear religion because they are not very intelligent.

All God pushers are afraid of the truth, they cannot think for themselves, they have been indoctrinated, hypnotized, these are same people that watch soap operas, and think its real life, they also believe everything they read in the newspapers, they even quote Wiki, the biggest piece of crap in the entire world, well it comes a close second to all religious books.

I am free from all that.
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July 04, 2016, 01:33:37 PM
Many atheists fear religion because they are not very intelligent.

And some atheists say the opposite, and then your offended. Judgmental thoughts are so common everywhere.

Ones (non) beliefs doesn't automatically exclude intelligence.
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July 04, 2016, 01:31:06 PM
Many atheists fear religion because they are not very intelligent.
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July 04, 2016, 01:28:01 PM
I'm a atheist, but i don't hate religion.

Anyone is free to believe what they want. Who am i to say otherwise?

As long as there can be mutual respect, i lived with a muslim for 9 years and we didn't broke up because of my lack of belief or for her belief in the islam.
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July 04, 2016, 09:41:26 AM
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.



I think we actually dont hate it ( maybe some of us ) but we just can't resist that someone is believing in something that isnt scientifically proved.
Personally i think its pretty funny that people really believe there is something in the HEAVEN and the god MADE world lol
do what u want anyway

I think it quite strange that cars, rockets, computers and thousands of other complex machines come from people making them. And these things wouldn't have been made if there wasn't the intelligence of people to make them.

Yet, people take instruction for everything they make, from the machinery in nature.

But some people can't seem to fathom that the far grater machinery of nature must have been made, as well.

How strange.

Cool
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July 04, 2016, 09:08:38 AM
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.



I think we actually dont hate it ( maybe some of us ) but we just can't resist that someone is believing in something that isnt scientifically proved.
Personally i think its pretty funny that people really believe there is something in the HEAVEN and the god MADE world lol
do what u want anyway
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July 04, 2016, 08:11:32 AM
So what do you believe in?

When are YOU going to share your divine enlightenment with us? @BADecker?

Your politics are right on, (or I would have ignored you a long time ago, just based on this thread, LOL.)

Many have asked & you never reply.
Badecker only wants to reply on those arguments that he can answer. I saw other people debunking his bullish arguments and he don't want to answer it because he know in himself that he can't have any reason for that.

BADecker doesn't recognize any arguments as such, and, therefore, never replies to any of them.

BADecker might make mistakes now and again, but in general, people only debunk their own non-arguments when they try to debunk BADecker's non-arguments. Why is this? Because they don't have enough knowledge or understanding or vision.

Anybody who wants to get divine enlightenment need only to:
1. Learn to read well if he doesn't know how;
2. Get a copy of the Bible in his native language, and, if he is entirely unfamiliar with Bible teaching, get a small Bible explanation booklet to get the basic idea of what the Bible is about;
3. Get a basic understanding of what the Bible is about;
4. Read the whole Bible over and over again, at least an hour each day, reading the Old Testament once for every 4 New Testament readings;
5. After reading the Bible thoroughly at least several times, the reader can get Bible tapes or CDs and listen rather than read.
6. Never stop.

The reason this works is that the Bible is God's word. And all knowledge and understanding is in God. Reading/listening to His Word imparts His knowledge and understanding to the reader/listener. God's Spirit is in His word, the Bible. God's Spirit actively imparts much understanding, Spirit to spirit.

What is important to remember is that there is so extremely much knowledge and understanding in the universe alone, that it will take an extremely long time to understand it all. So, it is advisable to fill on the Word as explained above for several years before responding in forums like this one.

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July 04, 2016, 03:05:14 AM
So what do you believe in?

When are YOU going to share your divine enlightenment with us? @BADecker?

Your politics are right on, (or I would have ignored you a long time ago, just based on this thread, LOL.)

Many have asked & you never reply.
Badecker only wants to reply on those arguments that he can answer. I saw other people debunking his bullish arguments and he don't want to answer it because he know in himself that he can't have any reason for that.
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It's personal
July 04, 2016, 02:43:18 AM

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?

— Nietzsche, The Gay Science, Section 125, tr. Walter Kaufmann


First, it's important to avoid the not-so-uncommon misinterpretation that Nietzsche is saying God once was but no longer is: Nietzsche is definitely not saying that something happened to God as an entity (according to Nietzsche, God never existed), but rather that we have done something to God as an idea. Specifically, we have abandoned the idea of God, hence "killed" him, much as we would say "you are dead to me" to someone we no longer care the slightest about - though again, Nietzsche doesn't think God was ever real as an entity.

To Nietzsche, this is an inevitable step in the timeline of civilization. He claims that we both created God and are bound to destroy him, and furthermore that this latter event is on the horizon.

Thanks for your good explanation of the meaning of the Nietzsche quote sorryforthat.

Ideas are incredibly powerful, much much more than most people realize I think. Everything you can lay your eyes on (except natural earth itself) started with an idea that became an action and turned into whatever it is today, that is to say all man-made things, which is basically nearly everything you would see in any city, town or village - in other words everywhere humans live. It's all ideas that became manifest in objects.

So the manifest 'object' if you will, of the idea of God's death, according to Nietzsche, are the church steeples - those are the gravestones of where God-idea is buried [this is as far as I know also a Nietzsche quote ie. "God is dead and the church steeples are the gravestones of where he lies buried" I'm not sure of the precise quote though]. If you look at how church buildings go empty (no attendance) then you'd realize Nietzsche's ideas are becoming reality - the next step in the timeline as you pointed out.

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July 04, 2016, 02:33:36 AM


That goes to show you how ignorant evolution believers are. They can't fill in the holes, so they use their imagination. And they intentionally forget to look at the probability math that shows that evolution is impossible - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mathematical-impossibility-of-evolution-1454732 - and all other kinds of things as well.

Evolution. Fun religion. Neat sci-fi story.

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It is funny that religious people don't want to believe that we have similarities with ape and they don't want it. But if their priest says that humans are made out of a sand, they don't go against it. Lol
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July 03, 2016, 07:31:31 PM
So what do you believe in?

When are YOU going to share your divine enlightenment with us? @BADecker?

Your politics are right on, (or I would have ignored you a long time ago, just based on this thread, LOL.)

Many have asked & you never reply.
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July 03, 2016, 04:26:10 PM


That goes to show you how ignorant evolution believers are. They can't fill in the holes, so they use their imagination. And they intentionally forget to look at the probability math that shows that evolution is impossible - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mathematical-impossibility-of-evolution-1454732 - and all other kinds of things as well.

Evolution. Fun religion. Neat sci-fi story.

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